From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 16 08:41:17 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2024 12:41:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51261 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqB2b-0005We-91 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:41:17 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqB2Y-0005WV-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:41:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqB2J-00082P-50 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:40:59 -0400 Received: from layka.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqB1z-0002ve-FK for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:40:56 -0400 Received: from mail01.disroot.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F247223CC8 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:40:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from layka.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id XVEOSACdds07 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:40:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1726490423; bh=JzpNvZBcr6r9+y8fwFSSXKwv88PaiNMfjn71gy9N0iQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=bXwNAQ9xN6U1c0M4h2dhk2dxwlBYF0eQ6phQdnJ818+YW45yvYfW0gEMgGbgkwPxz cWrrkVj6k1AR+qm8shLCuZef9Obce+0z5TioSAghuKPx7iixQWCeplDLnw0/nc9TQk +4W8zA98TjOZaWfmTj15WCL5fvQMgIZwUqk1c/j86NcgZXLB15KBExNOztZGbOjrIs pc1niUnNmF5Y9BHOfg77SCbvvPIh5r7m9HykAJQq5z7G+yLSy/JOoBTxVsHCTR+u+j ARuXJ6Y/lgSY5QTj83agBODpSOQrB8gcr4Qrr1KTbBkr0GetXQ3yNhK6CKXLnSBIYq 7OJk44PyNwZCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:40:23 +0200 From: lgcoelho@disroot.org To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: "guix shell -- anything" does not look for manifests Message-ID: <86b8b6bd0f2a04c6febb78b5c91f7676@disroot.org> X-Sender: lgcoelho@disroot.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_4d2d99b8ca3671f55a785f845fa24282" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=lgcoelho@disroot.org; helo=layka.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --=_4d2d99b8ca3671f55a785f845fa24282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello, Currently, if you have an authorized manifest available and want to run some command (for example htop) provided by the manifest, you need to --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix shell $ htop --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- as supplying a command for guix shell makes it to not look for manifests, and instead simply create a empty environment. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix shell -- htop guix shell: warning: no packages specified; creating an empty environment guix shell: error: htop: command not found --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Which doesn't seems a desirable behavior to me. Could we fix it? Thanks in advance, Luis --=_4d2d99b8ca3671f55a785f845fa24282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 
Hello,

Currently, if you have an authorized manifest available and want to r=
un some command (for example htop) provided by the manifest, you need to

--8<---=
------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

$ guix shell
$ htop

--8<---------------cut here---------=
------end--------------->8---
as supplying a command for guix shell=
 makes it to not look for manifests, and instead simply create a empty envi=
ronment.



--8<---=
------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

$ guix shell -- htop
guix shell: warning: no packages specified;=
 creating an empty environment
guix shell: error: htop: command not fo=
und



--8<---=
------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Wh=
ich doesn't seems a desirable behavior to me. Could we fix it?


Thanks in =
advance,
Luis



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Hi,

lgcoelho@disroot.org skribis:

> Currently, if you have an authorized manifest available and want to run=20
> some command (for example htop) provided by the manifest, you need to
>
>
> $ guix shell
> $ htop
>
> as supplying a command for guix shell makes it to not look for=20
> manifests, and instead simply create a empty environment.
>
>
> $ guix shell -- htop
> guix shell: warning: no packages specified; creating an empty=20
> environment
> guix shell: error: htop: command not found
>
> Which doesn't seems a desirable behavior to me. Could we fix it?

This is the documented behavior: =E2=80=98manifest.scm=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=
=98guix.scm=E2=80=99 are read
only for interactive use, meaning without =E2=80=98--=E2=80=99:

  https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-shell.html

The rationale for it is that non-interactive uses of =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=
=80=99 would
always be self-contained.

This was arguably a very conservative choice but I=E2=80=99m not sure we can
change it at this stage.  Thoughts?

Ludo=E2=80=99.