From unknown Fri Jun 20 05:33:31 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#73265 <73265@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#73265 <73265@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Spelling of macOS Reply-To: bug#73265 <73265@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:33:31 +0000 retitle 73265 Spelling of macOS reassign 73265 emacs submitter 73265 Xavier Noria severity 73265 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 03:18:05 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2024 07:18:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48220 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spjWH-0000Je-6D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:18:05 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60094) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spjQs-0008Qc-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:12:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spjQg-0005CY-8R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:12:18 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spjQe-0002wD-Pp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:12:18 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e1d2cf4cbf1so3498645276.1 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 00:12:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hashref.com; s=google; t=1726384335; x=1726989135; darn=gnu.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sVhqPG243oes0iRGufA4v3rEQ5qzsr1rmvzS3QsIJAc=; b=jVe05fPkiCr1luXDl87y9fbbVMaCT+qGgFjoydYfB3YqYgyiOryG/69JXd4jB0Rwz1 hLea7MgeoeexhLe5j4T5SNrzOnZWLeZa1H8cs1u6gIB47bKQxtixu8JQCG31X/ME9XGK AlqpTR8b3EhLVxfGcNUnPlXa+0WfTxOWJ+55I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726384335; x=1726989135; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sVhqPG243oes0iRGufA4v3rEQ5qzsr1rmvzS3QsIJAc=; b=Q/5Bjj/dmIMcYW2OCmi7DHHq3KZy+P/dFAEzCNX5tf9IaAOifG3pk5easoVOdvi7ax 7CdiOay5lYNu5aJ2RF/Dsz9POSogDFlrowLhIVrmFf96fJMVw7L14RsEEiINRD5+0Rt4 c3frH0hsox/6U+NnrRLHW77NcT8sLp+xuJ3Fy46ikoUF4zgzCNd9aO8HEjpSTrpCicWM RKOqpHtCkoK89ra4M61xfsLaFvvF9qeA/fWViLXU82/Xq9K9j9ngUzRkRZloRU5FDjxO Hkm56sl194TXNdFHLnG08fQd3yIvT/vIYcnUp9FfMkFLjBSix8JFsvGXp6d2qj2vS1c6 7kmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyztMV/FNOtDd7+Brm1CAoNxz3Xl6bM+10maahZrIb+moOIjMEK 2MMxHQQuG/Tk+g5N9DiHgBfAAvNywMb8Jl0pLlVpRgRfSdDjW4nH8Vx18Kj9DGu0fGbbKJnXwcH OD5sb9oLb+3RyXdPhj1K8rrZatatjSovbDGIYjHqIaq0Jieuk1sCfGA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE+aMsNowaqIW4fwmb5TIlomuQCFNl6/fFBd58FjA3LE9D7jg3udZrVpCF5sUOsyLVbinA+6XxoxYTROuFe1vQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:2c88:b0:6db:db7b:891c with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6dbdb7b8f51mr35853407b3.14.1726384334929; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 00:12:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Xavier Noria Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 09:11:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Spelling of macOS To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000007a97e0622232d24" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35; envelope-from=fxn@hashref.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb35.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:18:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --00000000000007a97e0622232d24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi! I noticed that https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html has several occurrences of "MacOS". If you look at Apple's official docs, you'll see the "m" is consistently lowercase. Just feedback on that. Best! Xavier --00000000000007a97e0622232d24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

I noticed that


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<= div>If you look at Apple's official docs, you'll see the "m&qu= ot; is consistently lowercase.

Just feedback= on that. Best!

Xavier

--00000000000007a97e0622232d24-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 03:55:42 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2024 07:55:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spk6g-0002SG-DS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:55:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spk6e-0002Rv-33 for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:55:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spk6M-0006yr-FL; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 03:55:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=m34DdaiW0dcHLbdTQ7eJ9AwziyomLgz0fwZ6FE4T7eQ=; b=XwPe0OKR1noV vUA/wkdkKGyhnrGfMCuvtQvS7etF1viut/3EmVwUlcF+mMgxN7g1Idc038v8An0Ll5agFAqIkI+kH y4VRSOiBV5OhDmDJf+WviQMybxXGRtKuRp2Vzn6GibGCSjToXn/Kr6X/eC6Ej2MdEzASAZInsg4u1 6iAVBExW/pwlIphRixdeCpayw3djYfVtKk0CXXjm1KHJdp2368t0PqJ6DDsu6+3LdyZEunGLTMMNp oHKgKoRM3Lt/f8LsU3WHym0br/74KzvVQe0F+fhDPcxZxnldgA/XGlezLMnrZinNykgTu8+j6BvK+ DqdQ6/1l8SlGHVkDIJsHuQ==; Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:55:10 +0300 Message-Id: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xavier Noria In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 09:11:39 +0200 > From: Xavier Noria via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > I noticed that > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html > > has several occurrences of "MacOS". > > If you look at Apple's official docs, you'll see the "m" is consistently lowercase. Thanks. We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spin, so I'm not sure we should fix these. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 04:44:19 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2024 08:44:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spkrj-00056O-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 04:44:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spkrg-000569-PZ for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 04:44:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spkrP-0002rk-Cb; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 04:43:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=f2X9YTDdsdCtXTqkOxaZw8y/0FwOtDGMzZF0oKQQGrM=; b=ESga6/ND2Gou6zP/8QKL OGm/pJ2+0M7J9a5LSXqPpI0V/TVSdb5Vc1gpryO0Hlesq1y6IGMn23xKzt5K49OTrSx1EGXGdw2bX Vli8MqkYP5aX5bZ2IKATNEmgg2EbWaibhDU0KXIAAi5/OOWPbadl2HjLZtSjAFDTe2+zu22QttTlM NfhJE4tUghIC3u3xkHnhyaERq+AEiu0X4ILlw4sNHN6wgYKZuW0+0xRGS1i8A+4+8R4oFDopvtWQe VQ4mY35+5ZJ/TNUhjvpFJXSHSwua95nTbJpadi69qrF+kHsCOLqeKlsaXQJ27+eKu4TN6y8N8YUtd qtAlAJOpeeKBtQ==; Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 11:43:56 +0300 Message-Id: <867cbde27n.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xavier Noria In-Reply-To: (message from Xavier Noria on Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:04:06 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xavier Noria > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:04:06 +0200 > Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 9:55 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Thanks. We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spin, so > I'm not sure we should fix these. > > It's not so much about marketing, it is about correctness. > > GNU is GNU, and macOS is macOS. There is no operating system called "MacOS". If we decide to call it MacOS, we will call it MacOS. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 05:03:09 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2024 09:03:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spl9x-0006GC-0C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:03:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spl9u-0006Fa-A9 for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:03:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spl9c-0005yA-6F; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:02:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=bwU5UerWHf0QpP9UFkNYeZMdksb7dbIdpkljDTi8WSE=; b=ep58Gtls//gS08pdGeV9 3/TUsMDUYH5NDG4qmnTdDYeR1ue31rq+8L0cy3U+C4Vl0F8sDx38rFW0zELZwXXiJZYkDZYhJ9FFi R/Ri747+g2GTyK++yOqDcrHXYoubdx5ALCKSeZnIbmhnbmoghoeD3NiwuacFhcX3KGpN+FhzOfcXi Gq3d+OlGJnrHTdQOyb2KsHo4/dfVYwQiQw9axgkZ9gk5WtTlIpgpjsY5PZYfr06mQd2sFPPTaUCxI lhaDpEAy5AlxxpPMYTR56rz+QtbGu2Q5wCmpyirphLy/oO+uePf8XdjoJx3jbugQ3KppJUBqEVpWW EiDy5dyA7s7sjQ==; Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:02:45 +0300 Message-Id: <865xqxe1ca.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xavier Noria In-Reply-To: (message from Xavier Noria on Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:49:06 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> <867cbde27n.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xavier Noria > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:49:06 +0200 > Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 10:44 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > If we decide to call it MacOS, we will call it MacOS. > > That is ironic coming from a place that has historically demanded Linux to be called the way you want. > > Your call, anyway, I have no personal interest in this, just wanted to help :). Thank you. I will see what we should do with those places. 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We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spin, so > I'm not sure we should fix these. > It's not so much about marketing, it is about correctness. GNU is GNU, and macOS is macOS. There is no operating system called "MacOS"= . --0000000000009b06b5062223e8b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 9:55=E2=80=AFAM E= li Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote= :

Thanks.=C2=A0 We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spi= n, so
I'm not sure we should fix these.

I= t's not so much about marketing, it is about correctness.
GNU is GNU, and macOS is macOS. There is no operating system ca= lled "MacOS".
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 10:44=E2=80=AFAM = Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gn= u.org> wrote:

If we decide to call it MacOS, we will call it MacOS.
=
That is ironic coming from a place that has historically dem= anded Linux to be called the way you want.

Your ca= ll, anyway, I have no personal interest in this, just wanted to help :).
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 13:50 Stefan Kangas wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Thanks. We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spin, so > > I'm not sure we should fix these. > > We already spell it macOS in our tree, so we might as well do it on the > website too, to avoid confusion. Marketing spin or not, I think this > spelling is harmless, FWIW. > > commit dc152c54f4e44f5f2040883b03f71ff6aa66c893 > Author: Paul Eggert > Date: Sun Nov 6 00:33:43 2016 -0700 > > Modernize usage of 'macOS' in doc and comments > > Apple changed the spelling of its operating system again, to "macOS", > effective with macOS 10.12 Sierra (2016-09-20). Change Emacs > documentation and comments to match this. Stick with older OS > spellings ("OS X", "Mac OS X") when talking about older releases where > the older names are more correct. > --00000000000060a5ee0622273ca9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fixed!=C2=A0

On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 13:50 Stefan Kangas <= ;stefankangas@gmail.com> wrote:
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Thanks.=C2=A0 We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketin= g spin, so
> I'm not sure we should fix these.

We already spell it macOS in our tree, so we might as well do it on the
website too, to avoid confusion.=C2=A0 Marketing spin or not, I think this<= br> spelling is harmless, FWIW.

commit dc152c54f4e44f5f2040883b03f71ff6aa66c893
Author: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sun Nov 6 00:33:43 2016 -0700

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Modernize usage of 'macOS' in doc and comments

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apple changed the spelling of its operating system again, to = "macOS",
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 effective with macOS 10.12 Sierra (2016-09-20).=C2=A0 Change = Emacs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 documentation and comments to match this.=C2=A0 Stick with ol= der OS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 spellings ("OS X", "Mac OS X") when talki= ng about older releases where
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the older names are more correct.
--00000000000060a5ee0622273ca9-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 13:36:08 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2024 17:36:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sptAO-0001rf-1t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:36:08 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com ([209.85.219.176]:59571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1spo1w-0008Uh-Ju for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 08:07:05 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e1d0e74f484so2967286276.2 for <73265@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hashref.com; s=google; t=1726401947; x=1727006747; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=O9nzbsD6J7qs0L9hKAOdW6KPxviZIeBwhj+ItO9IU5A=; b=aJjIRGu3EJDAPj6WB2qaylLm1OFDypeQYJTO0aFt+oC9TCs7SjkV37FX/aQIQgYGve wFY1QzvBAMXKOn2ApBv+1YltP3pMBiajLP2nKD1WZ9xyyda7YBae46DxlYs4DMJZkHzx UuPv1KIwbT/KAslc4Popcp+/oVWQ4+iX6/FtY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726401947; x=1727006747; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=O9nzbsD6J7qs0L9hKAOdW6KPxviZIeBwhj+ItO9IU5A=; b=AsUwwCnsM4JNE/6+QGBt7qpqVMnQSxIV1dfo45Bq1VYx9TFazQB2CJ2F8Hh17Y8dFx LEComvJnhvmcUq0/bgtY8imSnCeQIbYeKLjG0xBJWwOrzCTDtEFgsGS1o5STfixSY0o3 Ak2qHLIleWW1Y7+g/Jtjg6kHxYQcYUNsvnsjQ3tIyC9y3tboDHAZnlwfm0GvH9Z9a3we oDjDvmmE0NzhqNmGY2VSGPoLYzW30pnFBbCXWD54fdwf9b4vfDVi4y2E8aA77rACWLgO 6/TJ4zTE6PT2JvbgbJfbAv3lGJ9IC355BwJRM1CszYaMcff9aaeaUdMseUgAj/fqUWsf 2MWQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXdfNhQN/UIex19swLy4Xy5pl887Het9aLt/4TbBsr5ojF/A0EVaOWopceFRXVAX8mKIBhoDQ==@debbugs.gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwXwTnEEtxaEf37TeJZRxXVrt+NvrKcGxmTgnj6yK6YjdT+kE7U vHmBfYfLeTHjnMC70fYEMheFv5RMO0Epyw3lFEvVPjzCuZXD9H6RJcjLmAvWZObTOoT72341Guw sOPeiwebO2Q2DyTX172xe0YCcGEPFbs2qrsw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHyev+YZTo5GOzmWU4yXTfBUPO4dxPF3LAY0MZbho1qckSFtHxE+ptBe3keqtqqeEq6loEGu/wVxm5ThRxo1w0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:3703:b0:6dd:b7e0:65b2 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6ddb7e067f7mr25921147b3.24.1726401947270; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:05:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Xavier Noria Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 14:05:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS To: Stefan Kangas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cea0190622274646" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:36:05 -0400 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000cea0190622274646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Please, disregard my previous email, I misinterpreted the commit reference as a patch for this one. On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 14:02 Xavier Noria wrote: > Fixed! > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 13:50 Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Thanks. We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketing spin, so >> > I'm not sure we should fix these. >> >> We already spell it macOS in our tree, so we might as well do it on the >> website too, to avoid confusion. Marketing spin or not, I think this >> spelling is harmless, FWIW. >> >> commit dc152c54f4e44f5f2040883b03f71ff6aa66c893 >> Author: Paul Eggert >> Date: Sun Nov 6 00:33:43 2016 -0700 >> >> Modernize usage of 'macOS' in doc and comments >> >> Apple changed the spelling of its operating system again, to "macOS", >> effective with macOS 10.12 Sierra (2016-09-20). Change Emacs >> documentation and comments to match this. Stick with older OS >> spellings ("OS X", "Mac OS X") when talking about older releases where >> the older names are more correct. >> > --000000000000cea0190622274646 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please, disregard my previous email, I misinterpreted the= commit reference as a patch for this one.

On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 14:02 Xavie= r Noria <fxn@hashref.com> wrot= e:
Fixed!=C2=A0
On= Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 13:50 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gma= il.com> wrote:
Eli Zaretskii= <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Thanks.=C2=A0 We don't necessarily follow the Apple's marketin= g spin, so
> I'm not sure we should fix these.

We already spell it macOS in our tree, so we might as well do it on the
website too, to avoid confusion.=C2=A0 Marketing spin or not, I think this<= br> spelling is harmless, FWIW.

commit dc152c54f4e44f5f2040883b03f71ff6aa66c893
Author: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sun Nov 6 00:33:43 2016 -0700

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Modernize usage of 'macOS' in doc and comments

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apple changed the spelling of its operating system again, to = "macOS",
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 effective with macOS 10.12 Sierra (2016-09-20).=C2=A0 Change = Emacs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 documentation and comments to match this.=C2=A0 Stick with ol= der OS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 spellings ("OS X", "Mac OS X") when talki= ng about older releases where
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the older names are more correct.
--000000000000cea0190622274646-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 17 23:53:44 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2024 03:53:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqllA-0004ki-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:53:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55316) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqll7-0004kH-RW for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:53:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqlkm-000430-SL; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:53:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=oL92JDfpVTDkpsLTrXEJ4P5WC94tj7rrbicb8xG7z8w=; b=LFQOsHAzd389 4hcuGfRfedmI5sADRhBqcmrIn5s8QZvqZAHYsdtPBqC6PdabD2yqUE/5rAKti+LCKcIE6SCGVYDlZ SzsZDeh+6d9DyS8u6Loaa4+H1w7+LiQbqjvkz9EhjFKQvuyWEf5BPmmu/ueWf3tIf9wrU1MZVHUkG a/8uMzlNT9ba1qlXiPu3qgdEQiH6wpPMdRAtLFdm8+HXKKNJcWliFpi6r+rCd4WdHuIp64x2k8k7y UCsp4U3Fro9nAZNDJCriK+OzyAjQfY26nPItsIK9BDViAj01pXmvgnz1tt6+e23jtVaSMLiKSjSZg KnpRn0ClwTClwM4O6OVXxw==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqlkm-00066n-1N; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:53:20 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Xavier Noria In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:53:20 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] We should write it "MacOS", following the normal convention of proper names in written English, because we have no reason to depart from it. On general principles, in the absence of any reason why we would want to depart from them, it is good to follow such conventions. The only proposed reason to write "macOS" is that Apple asks for it. Since Apple is an enemy of the GNU GPL, and an enemy of computer users' freedom generally, a request from Apple is for us no reason at all. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 18 03:02:42 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2024 07:02:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56921 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqoi1-0007pq-E1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:02:42 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com ([209.85.219.170]:54463) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqm2l-0006EC-2p for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:11:55 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e026a2238d8so4689077276.0 for <73265@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 21:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hashref.com; s=google; t=1726632634; x=1727237434; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=otcrRfl6aaOGg7AzuaOGjYSsbKrA7VvnbT/VWTUXd2A=; b=Zkf2y0dTTm6eqgvS+wD6B92kS/Ev5PRcIun/FowLgJR8+RLE9FVwBG40CIJ6MhZ/4x F9xz5LUASyoDQIXg6B+/BhPAw2M1uQ/d82Wj3/KiaR85FBHd46qgUNA0Zv1kd+9IvVmU wB0splZhqM3OQRbdvSkt4qpL5lnhtbkeJirMs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726632634; x=1727237434; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=otcrRfl6aaOGg7AzuaOGjYSsbKrA7VvnbT/VWTUXd2A=; b=nMFYJ+fpdwSFtFQSJ6jpLDXsxVz3JmOxStA5ZepTatKArpegaltT1IdBHDkdgQLih2 nPH5L4MHcIw3rnnIR2UDzcEVhFlvJOD5goZkABrgEnn/wGGJ2FQ1znUOPg+a+fPA03IY dbzKTZ6K9owy4ETCJkmS7pnBlP2DE97YxR4MmcEaJj4SBHER2DOLKE0VHwji7xMUGR10 mDx5fHKu1BetR8UlXJyWTufXQyKEl+sBf/Kn5PD3d4wna4o9HNS5QU/ux6aQgwCPolGn pbk9sz4zE3ls24x0PaQcml8ThmBcP3fMpGikdql2qLMGCGjehfj6Uc5uwswl9bWZaO1F sA+A== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVgYtDnnupuBRI08aeIzYoNBHoP98zcolBgPAVSqaHSQzKh604CRgYvQjkxR63Th85RfMsLpw==@debbugs.gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwQLr1HNJRvJTkCaeh6cJKLgMW1QeARCafLJGbPj/JOej6eHsxv Ds4NXsh0uyCgV1EFHJGWcs0Mri4IgPhtfX2sjq5zsLGj/YjaXOqkpmsdLENFVxyyvlJjrnFeMeX 9FObp9rxkyQ+djqYYLwm5FIKU/skMZn1nrq0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGGDVKrQzkEIMId3lWwytYXaM9E0nNgGA4lB7YxF7A3ai2qSq7anUzsCXAtfdvtywc1/dTMtS9mmKv2iYxmLUY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1147:b0:e1d:895d:fb8e with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e1db00e498dmr15533605276.40.1726632633844; Tue, 17 Sep 2024 21:10:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Xavier Noria Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 06:09:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cc61bd06225cfce6" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:02:38 -0400 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000cc61bd06225cfce6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 5:53=E2=80=AFAM Richard Stallman wrot= e: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We should write it "MacOS", following the normal convention of proper > names in written English, because we have no reason to depart from it. > On general principles, in the absence of any reason why we would want > to depart from them, it is good to follow such conventions. > > The only proposed reason to write "macOS" is that Apple asks for it. > Since Apple is an enemy of the GNU GPL, and an enemy of computer > users' freedom generally, a request from Apple is for us no reason at > all. No. "macOS" should be written "macOS" because that is the name of the operating system. There are no further considerations to this. As you know, brand names are not English words and do not abide by their rules. "eBay" is "eBay" and "BMW" is "BMW". It's OK. I was only trying to help, assuming you'd like to know. Once you are aware of this, it is your call. We can close this issue folks. --000000000000cc61bd06225cfce6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 5:53=E2=80=AFAM R= ichard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrot= e:

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents read= ing my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
We should write it "MacOS", following the normal convention of pr= oper
names in written English, because we have no reason to depart from it.
On general principles, in the absence of any reason why we would want
to depart from them, it is good to follow such conventions.

The only proposed reason to write "macOS" is that Apple asks for = it.
Since Apple is an enemy of the GNU GPL, and an enemy of computer
users' freedom generally, a request from Apple is for us no reason at all.

No.

"mac= OS" should be written "macOS" because that is the name of th= e operating system. There are no further considerations to this.
=
As you know, brand names are not English words and do not ab= ide by their rules. "eBay" is "eBay" and "BMW"= ; is "BMW".

It's OK. I was only tryi= ng to help, assuming you'd like to know. Once you are aware of this, it= is your call.

We can close this issue folks.
--000000000000cc61bd06225cfce6-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 18 19:12:28 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2024 23:12:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59377 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sr3qW-0002hh-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 19:12:28 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f44.google.com ([209.85.208.44]:61656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sr3qU-0002hR-H6 for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 19:12:27 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5c24c92f699so180423a12.2 for <73265@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1726701064; x=1727305864; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XBccGsMvjkkNhepwLoZQgNQw4DZBHOGSyZT7M37zb74=; b=Rcn9um6DltIALLzi9stBkIe34y9yQXUUd62Kv1glRGpxVQCzlnJNp3tmaOHMsSzKft 9i/hQcdtS3xZGwckqZKiozGxQsU2cyrBCqA3HTDiw4VqeazyytgnB4hJ/fRfIf+xKcXn +eubw+HwuTVJBPateBvhlUiXjfPTy0yJdiTBkA8QfSAQ1sMrkr2Fe1/L6SS/hII42fjk XLbu/dul5U1wcjEkiaHK5RmyfRwL7c7LXQRWymbG/uBU6O7XQYgBEslyOf5UUzYci7j/ ycgcoS4wIMyrfafcUZsDEr0tcbDibOX2QXVMbzcQIeiqXeAWGeOUhyDUP20q/9panXgG +dxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726701064; x=1727305864; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XBccGsMvjkkNhepwLoZQgNQw4DZBHOGSyZT7M37zb74=; b=Iq+iweVNv3VtnsKORMlINXl3KWiVnTCrhLyqLYpiQGcdGN81Wb3xWD1OW19i5c2Gyt pPyWundmlmUJHy8+1obyE4LqEuWvE1mAmqWRv+PJWEkA7r7S7uU9RG013TbYAwRmPf9e oi/6UhrnrvU86gmN3SPPSfWCjJhe+dMGuN7QCjAhAcTuoLneIzydr+xYPViNALjdAQ1I 09Wi0rInTrtsZZ/Nr/DII8X9ATlUDBoxyC3H1+1UEO640mbbpuEGZyQk7RkGbpLz6SSV 5MgXsgMeQbDbldANhV7sG+hn2nfdPHWez4Fdg7anpZuO9KV0N1KMxK6hQEJ9OIcyHjaS xDmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwKTEgcTyhYI2E3LbqS1EUNvmGO3MxngveedPNY28OSgaJSioOg zJqKX2wMcaoKoyvmY5DFk99LdjNB68pZTEUCbWwidCC2oeY/HeF4X78IGh2Jw4feFpzLFa40qJm aGr4YWWr52pBFICFK5LBIXzxv6Zg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGuxBwwPZp26hYKq1CP5bd73ja5rUc2J8HttnTEm5f3RG5I6LuTZ03FkrXZeWCG0AfPTluoeVFycEQ4h7clgRk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:3590:b0:5c4:2b0f:fef7 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5c42b1001eemr14637482a12.4.1726701063728; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:11:02 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:11:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS To: rms@gnu.org, Xavier Noria Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman writes: > The only proposed reason to write "macOS" is that Apple asks for it. The main reason is actually because the old way of writing it is "Mac OS" (1984-2000) or "Mac OS X"/"OS X" (2000-2016) and writing it like that suggests that we only support those older versions. It opens the door to an easily avoided confusion. We also have no real reason not to use the official spelling; it's completely harmless. I don't intend to man the barricades, but I do think that we should just use the official spelling and be done with this. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 20 00:58:45 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2024 04:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srVjB-0007eT-GT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:58:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40292) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srVj8-0007eB-Ie for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:58:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srVgd-0002B6-H1; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:56:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=CX/+dPy6wGue8xtxLzyO8NfpgK3Bpv7sSGG8kG0WtoA=; b=EBnAY6PdkNLv SKxiV/blwxa9qtsoain1uvwbTV3faNT5kYrCjS3G097lCRsZkEw1h1ExGxkoFYbdm7BaQmzMq4kDI KcXRzDPb2jfBN3hP5aNk8FTJ6aYeq37c0zGGJr5RPIV3sy5XJ/a3ZulucKM0fkRvNWuXEpwSx0x92 CbpEuffTzFLY6VkTC/AoR0khdg9tHvD+uUwNLGTDDZl0EWvOAEJuEloqdnilydgrXO/pvdbwUsK79 g6da/ZruTQJQt4i6T/4YT3w65H2uC5SXrTPsrpqqPqNXXc4jhc7BpmTpiMqZalMLJKy07HpudiRKW SEt5toahk60HyWVUnCohgw==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srVgc-0006yZ-I6; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:56:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:11:02 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:56:06 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, fxn@hashref.com, eliz@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The main reason is actually because the old way of writing it is > "Mac OS" (1984-2000) or "Mac OS X"/"OS X" (2000-2016) I write it MacOS, which is different from all the ways Apple reportedly wries it. It follows normal practice -- where Apple apparently never did. That seems ideal. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 21 06:16:51 2024 Received: (at 73265-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2024 10:16:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srxAY-0005Oa-SB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:16:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srxAW-0005OL-DO for 73265-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:16:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srxA6-0003qJ-Oh; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:16:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=kHF9N7mBOT4NpK3fJHYOVBus1UbYIQ5ov0aHr6OJiIg=; b=fR5jKLIHPXAz1ChrBe7d 4A+Umy2NWOOfEQoGZb+PFlbEroqdSDyiV3q4nRJBxecCX4dPoJgX8DqeYSitAmetlfWvt+rtzggvr KrR9W6PUVr037rrQwhJ1uSyyfIXq9GkE33tB0HxTKDMj8YKhscIUmuTmTyKNmxTm94eHbpivuLUcV HsFfsf7rYxxOttAzSfZP8ISGufVbSMq45Rjd44lI8BOTThc5j4YV0INkUTDu5KEfYJYwdQgtdPD/1 MF1GTvmXz5MG4v6VxlCEN6oclrSw437PT9WnJ2pCOmqSmU0/rr5MpgmhfGW4vqn1edzK79tGKRtts n5Yx5gwHisYQgw==; Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:16:19 +0300 Message-Id: <868qvl48i4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: fxn@hashref.com In-Reply-To: <865xqxe1ca.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:02:45 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> <867cbde27n.fsf@gnu.org> <865xqxe1ca.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265-done Cc: 73265-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:02:45 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: Xavier Noria > > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 10:49:06 +0200 > > Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 10:44 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > If we decide to call it MacOS, we will call it MacOS. > > > > That is ironic coming from a place that has historically demanded Linux to be called the way you want. > > > > Your call, anyway, I have no personal interest in this, just wanted to help :). > > Thank you. I will see what we should do with those places. I fixed that. 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I believe the download icon in emacs.html needs also a fix. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 21 09:28:37 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2024 13:28:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ss0A9-0007fh-Ck for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:28:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ss0A6-0007fN-IO for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:28:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ss09g-0007JJ-91; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:28:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=36iOPSWPhrYF1MEsghxrq9qhQGjBeq2QBaMxpbvnobc=; b=HQTstqQ9S6IK TX32XjVIm8uCVzOY0SzF+jLlzo8ZplnBhJq6QQD07npmCR6I+38IUDH3gk262gOU38wzhpGvC//HP Z6oMmQTaca8OCFv0G85v+76rO+ZE1lVNqw+EQAgfkZcHYDB+n+OhEe65I+mu6EyYgBlmZVJ1IXQ0C 9YD2FH1bmp2yBYJm9BuXaMI6GK+lnGFbPN3ZT7lyeyId2qLF953QNNltcALPxvc7ZwB5ZYGRtYrMF ff+B/Yk7TApnDWegL1MBMxMnIxAGYibjTXiZ0YqB3DZYJFHC2bQFaxVxLK8Wl6PPtso3uJubK5GNX 8Y9jtKwwJar6F3B6TmDUVA==; Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:28:03 +0300 Message-Id: <86v7yp2l24.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <871q1ddu8n.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:14:16 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> <867cbde27n.fsf@gnu.org> <865xqxe1ca.fsf@gnu.org> <868qvl48i4.fsf@gnu.org> <871q1ddu8n.fsf@gmx.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, fxn@hashref.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, fxn@hashref.com > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:14:16 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Hi Eli, > > > I fixed that. > > I believe the download icon in emacs.html needs also a fix. Someone else will have to take care of that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 21 09:53:41 2024 Received: (at 73265) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2024 13:53:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ss0YO-0000Ye-W7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:53:41 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:45609) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ss0YN-0000YR-Au for 73265@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:53:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1726926787; x=1727531587; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=8fPEM/D4+xHDiy4K/5mqBLF8lcPaqVdx5z6iMnC3Jwk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=LZqNgEDLfEn2iKM4x6hri0Ub2KogqOPLm4obzDoRSzt2snaxryNtDyYJwMxlj7am S/RHwIFWnZQV5kaQV/iCF3Hk0qepyanq+TwOseB/pP6MzPjiQ2rl5TmePcsM5rkgX 3niJ9w4EHwZFb234grIj7bH8kpijbBfGuzFrIcH5mvSV22x2SXiCssSNdKd4jzEMm XOM6kBr+FHLMR1Md+hNGR1BohJlH4GZyU5V79syDrEl7jnckrsbxDoo+lZvzKRFxp 71IgA3sYZxIYB27y86MB7aF/XPFk5V19OFmAh4VPoE1/UAd7Xhn6bh07ZOICZ1G1h Xajxm/6X3OreiQa6tA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MDhlV-1shrPQ1nQV-007Rxl; Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:53:07 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#73265: Spelling of macOS In-Reply-To: <86v7yp2l24.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Sep 2024 16:28:03 +0300") References: <86cyl5e4gx.fsf@gnu.org> <867cbde27n.fsf@gnu.org> <865xqxe1ca.fsf@gnu.org> <868qvl48i4.fsf@gnu.org> <871q1ddu8n.fsf@gmx.de> <86v7yp2l24.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:53:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87wmj5cdvm.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kQwXJnqwMXSNduCka2/riEVXWHf+fbjYAKPRL7wJsmNJTTqIUiZ PHqcJqVb2uHZmFpEX1wHugdsNbyrVFLL0zHOmJVSEw32Y9rKwI949TAhQQY33W6TGUNAGnK F6K95v40oGhHc3wNL6nwyML5dMK7ZlWFTZv5cG92DrEZ3D+pt219x2VkPJk7RYcrWZKt6gb aAsq/ULFkkOu9q5NIrC8g== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:1KNbgLYXQpQ=;qCPsyw5YTwvOWyNTHrWikyq6RwM dgPBCMLcr3rJmQSsD0K19V4Iahh37DCp1D6J+hk7a+amMSwE6qKZUUsS5+gWpaqCtrrGhqdqV JA7RPCl5d+crgd5+x/K3U3tPkuiZNaUDXJPyGc8JiANwGRZS3tY518vVoDoiMtNM41fwNw6Za QgH3nlAtdlkpv+4gmaGephU0x4a2fHzBNoOGvwVGoHXyICn3TAkbdaSSfjepRJKBcLBZ2pUE2 XoqoGDz/PDYQTCfsTr1MR3PqD6PhWtVWOs64ZhweHNC1pOv7TI/gvOh0YV4bXS9umlcPVptwx n/T8lbpOFfrH0ZM27Zul+VzRj+o8I+mAe3J6PcdoG+v3fK+OE1u5ew5bO5F32TXq/Lc9Jo2et 75waNOiLNs5GN5/qc+sFj5K4+QZUo1CKtb9dgj3LGBi1BMvJA2man9Q660u4sRX8IeB7ejfts CLt+eiR4/vvAEFCVLezOdV3QVEHAq7ASaHCK4hUimEuACO3DOl0en5zJTXabS8QrtExbdHxOw EQ3u+4+Q12HrtpQhJ3kNQGp/y24XoxF6VGFBXjXI7sO88ExZBtlpkaPAt47SC8Yc0psIMuA9R F6xX+pxowRKsrSY/nuaifI2hMUHHOuVuKCqO075abta9Z4ZkALozkwcU/8+C1C6nZWTd9HQgC Jwnc2hLRLOuDbXIR6eYzVQCeOKjEhJoEIuwvsA/1/4apKUvakLhsuzzmWNqSUuNuZzlKIsbSk fbSDztIQQMvOZf+Q2yVy3Eug3yeHVgfjzSfbTBVjVnX54ls8yx6nq//tO+SA4uZj6S8xaF2Hd ainJyxzRWiaPoUHEzu1LjOLQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73265 Cc: 73265@debbugs.gnu.org, fxn@hashref.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I believe the download icon in emacs.html needs also a fix. > > Someone else will have to take care of that. I did. Fortunately, it wasn't an icon but a text block, easy to edit. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Jun 20 05:33:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:24:12 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator