GNU bug report logs - #732
w3m shows different results than Firefox browser

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>

Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:55:04 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Sven Joachim <svenjoac <at> gmx.de>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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To: Sven Joachim <svenjoac <at> gmx.de>
Subject: bug#732: marked as done (w3m shows different results than Firefox
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From: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:44:42 -0700
This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be  
reproduced 100%.

Summary:
The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems  
to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string.

To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% 
20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22

standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html

Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has  
cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on  
cookies)

but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that  
quoted this phrase.

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GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)  
of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp

The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp
Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11
configured using `configure  '--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/ 
Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=/ 
Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=-Os -arch  
i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI - 
DUSE_MAC_TSM''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Emacs-Lisp

Minor modes in effect:
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  desktop-save-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  recentf-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  abbrev-mode: t




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From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac <at> gmx.de>
To: xah lee <xah <at> xahlee.org>
Cc: 732-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:51:30 +0200
On 2008-08-16 22:44 +0200, xah lee wrote:

> This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced
> 100%.
>
> Summary:
> The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems
> to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string.
>
> To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at%
> 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22
>
> standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article:
> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html
>
> Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies
> turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on  cookies)
>
> but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted
> this phrase.

This is PEBKAC, just remove the %22 quotation marks.  With them, the
above URL shows only one result in any browser I've tried, including
Firefox and Konqueror; without them, w3m and other browsers show many
results.

Fortunately, Google does not seem to discriminate "non-standard"
browsers yet.

Sven


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