From unknown Fri Sep 05 16:58:32 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser Reply-To: xah lee , 732@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: xah lee Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:55:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 732 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12189195133624 (code B ref -1); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:55:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, GOOGLESEARCH,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Aug 2008 20:45:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7GKj8sI003339 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:45:10 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSe4-0006Oz-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSdy-0006On-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60743 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSdy-0006Ok-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:53603) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KUSdw-0000TU-UG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-6-185-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.185.159]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KUSdk0r8C-0003QO; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:44:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: xah lee Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:44:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189xSnaWwKxOkwUjeWqHb2GP4AtLLoiLIA5/FV X3pEikN+BCtgf0JQK28NQzo/KVtshCKyVVvnEpzvRZCF0HKkCf 85yisZa7GnA6QDTQ8E3eg== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be =20 reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems =20= to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at%=20 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has =20 cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on =20 cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that =20 quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) =20 of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/Applications/Emacs.app/=20 Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=3D/=20 Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=3D-Os -arch =20 i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI -=20= DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t =E2=98=84 From unknown Fri Sep 05 16:58:32 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: xah lee Subject: bug#732 closed by Sven Joachim (Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) Message-ID: References: <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 732 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 732@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1218960003-19615-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1218960003-19615-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser It has been closed by Sven Joachim . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Sven Joachim by replying to this email. --=20 732: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D732 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1218960003-19615-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From svenjoac@gmx.de Sun Aug 17 00:51:43 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GOOGLESEARCH, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 732-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Aug 2008 07:51:43 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m7H7pdEx017856 for <732-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:51:40 -0700 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2008 07:51:33 -0000 Received: from p5486461C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO debian) [84.134.70.28] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 09:51:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+iddx06OmigQRV8TV8LSFsIxR6MkFc7PLIFk+2Ee mPYJn5YkjphobT From: Sven Joachim To: xah lee Cc: 732-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:51:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: (xah lee's message of "Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:44:42 -0700") Message-ID: <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53 On 2008-08-16 22:44 +0200, xah lee wrote: > This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced > 100%. > > Summary: > The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems > to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. > > To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html > > Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies > turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) > > but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted > this phrase. This is PEBKAC, just remove the %22 quotation marks. With them, the above URL shows only one result in any browser I've tried, including Firefox and Konqueror; without them, w3m and other browsers show many results. Fortunately, Google does not seem to discriminate "non-standard" browsers yet. Sven ------------=_1218960003-19615-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From xah@xahlee.org Sat Aug 16 13:45:13 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, GOOGLESEARCH,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Aug 2008 20:45:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7GKj8sI003339 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:45:10 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSe4-0006Oz-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSdy-0006On-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60743 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUSdy-0006Ok-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:53603) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KUSdw-0000TU-UG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-6-185-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.185.159]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KUSdk0r8C-0003QO; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:44:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: xah lee Subject: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:44:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189xSnaWwKxOkwUjeWqHb2GP4AtLLoiLIA5/FV X3pEikN+BCtgf0JQK28NQzo/KVtshCKyVVvnEpzvRZCF0HKkCf 85yisZa7GnA6QDTQ8E3eg== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be =20 reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems =20= to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at%=20 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has =20 cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on =20 cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that =20 quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) =20 of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/Applications/Emacs.app/=20 Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=3D/=20 Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=3D-Os -arch =20 i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI -=20= DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t =E2=98=84 ------------=_1218960003-19615-1-- From unknown Fri Sep 05 16:58:32 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#732: closed by Sven Joachim (Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) Reply-To: xah lee , 732@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: xah lee Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 732 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 732-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B732.121900458827737 (code B ref 732); Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:30:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, GOOGLESEARCH,HAS_BUG_NUMBER,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 732) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Aug 2008 20:23:08 +0000 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7HKN31r027731 for <732@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:23:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-6-185-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.185.159]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KUomD2FNk-0003qm; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:23:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <23189E2A-1345-4592-AEF6-F9DAA3A53DBE@xahlee.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: xah lee Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:22:46 -0700 To: 732@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+UkFbqWBe1KlKSYK/hRiRGaPmfg9ZYsNzNl/z aCmPGUfiU6YcmNzs3j2y0mV33x9JIdqCIP5WZxAs4N/moSF02n V7/e8ax8gtidzY5O8BjYQ== Thanks. for what's worth, here's what i've found: In OSX 10.4.11, in Safari, Opera, Firefox (all latest public =20 version), when this line is pasted into the url field: http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at%=20 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 they all return mulitple results with the following line on top: =C2=ABInformation No results found for "The computer wizards at = Industrial =20 Light and Magic help alchemize". Results for The computer wizards at Industrial Light and Magic help =20 alchemize (without quotes):=C2=BB in w3m and icab, they give just 1 result using the exact phrase as it =20= should. So, perhaps some how when google search automatically switch to a non-=20= exact-phrase search when the exact-phrase search got only one result? =20= But this couldn't be because FF and Opera in linux apparantly return =20 just 1 result from exact phrase search too. prob nothing to do with emacs then... but a browser/web oddity... Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 On Aug 17, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Emacs bug Tracking System wrote: This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser It has been closed by Sven Joachim . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Sven Joachim =20 by replying to this email. --=20 732: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D732 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems From: Sven Joachim Date: August 17, 2008 12:51:30 AM PDT To: xah lee Cc: 732-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser On 2008-08-16 22:44 +0200, xah lee wrote: > This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced > 100%. > > Summary: > The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems > to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. > > To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag =20 > article: > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html > > Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies > turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) > > but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted > this phrase. This is PEBKAC, just remove the %22 quotation marks. With them, the above URL shows only one result in any browser I've tried, including Firefox and Konqueror; without them, w3m and other browsers show many results. Fortunately, Google does not seem to discriminate "non-standard" browsers yet. Sven From: xah lee Date: August 16, 2008 1:44:42 PM PDT To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be =20 reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems =20= to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=3D%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at%=20 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has =20 cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on =20 cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that =20 quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) =20 of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/Applications/Emacs.app/=20 Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=3D/=20 Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=3D-Os -arch =20 i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI -=20= DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t =E2=98=84 =E2=98=84 From unknown Fri Sep 05 16:58:32 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#732: closed by Sven Joachim (Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) Reply-To: Sven Joachim , 732@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Sven Joachim Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:25:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 732 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 732-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B732.121900774512498 (code B ref 732); Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:25:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GOOGLESEARCH, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 732) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Aug 2008 21:15:45 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m7HLFeoc012491 for <732@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:15:41 -0700 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2008 21:15:34 -0000 Received: from p5486501D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO debian) [84.134.80.29] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 17 Aug 2008 23:15:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+4J+kWzSG4j77hrTgB7dK7RMU2/FDSThBJdyiuvE 36vwoh3IGjqRnL From: Sven Joachim To: xah lee Cc: 732@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:15:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: (xah lee's message of "Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:22:46 -0700") Message-ID: <87bpzr8hsb.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.58 On 2008-08-17 22:22 +0200, xah lee wrote: > for what's worth, here's what i've found: > > In OSX 10.4.11, in Safari, Opera, Firefox (all latest public version), > when this line is pasted into the url field: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > they all return mulitple results with the following line on top: > > «Information No results found for "The computer wizards at Industrial > Light and Magic help alchemize". > > Results for The computer wizards at Industrial Light and Magic help > alchemize (without quotes):» > > in w3m and icab, they give just 1 result using the exact phrase as it > should. This might be dependent on your language settings. When I set English as preferred language for Google results in Firefox, I get different results than with the default German. Go figure... > So, perhaps some how when google search automatically switch to a non- > exact-phrase search when the exact-phrase search got only one result? No, only when there are _zero_ results. > prob nothing to do with emacs then... but a browser/web oddity... Exactly. Cheers, Sven