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Equality Predicates (GNU Emacs Lisp Re= ference Manual)

In the descriptive text of function "equal&= quot;:

"The equal function recursively compares the contents of= objects if they are integers, strings, markers, vectors, bool-vectors, byt= e-code function objects, char-tables, records, or font objects."
Shouldn't "integers" here be "conses" or "li= sts"?
--0000000000002113200620e12021-- From unknown Sun Aug 17 02:01:35 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=BA=BB=E6=9E=9D=E5=BF=A0?= Subject: bug#72888: closed (Re: bug#72888: Confusing descriptive text) Message-ID: References: <86le0ee0o9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 72888 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 72888@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:01:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1725015662-3378-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1725015662-3378-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #72888: Confusing descriptive text which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 72888@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 72888: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D72888 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1725015662-3378-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 72888-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2024 11:00:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52571 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sjzMy-0000ri-EK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:00:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sjzMv-0000rS-7y for 72888-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:00:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sjzLv-0004j1-3c; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:59:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=1fB4QjAzTNHux82Tn/EoG+nrH7QSSB7Lu72PwgD03dc=; b=YrAuEgELWz9UasXQhL2x 6SBu39M0xGBGR6M8FuQGD38dkQVR2rI/Th7C39/xc4m1LbnXZRvL9xscPpJ0+fKuJfX3Ckh5fhtnP kVKUU4xPkc0YCJP4jGsqd6+T8QgSBNF0w3GBHfCvdBsJajh5Ui1CHYhNuU5riCxn43bOuLlX1xxDz Pawqn8+6Egwyx8eJnV4nUDI9WYLDcv+GmrqfJ3Ki7rnlaeXigvD89kFzOGZwCFQwr3vGGTpZXgmo5 Jl+HCCoCCj9s86LoaNhwyQO9ViItrEGOai6BAHZhhVxFi8ZXf3GzxhggfRK9Di9OHdKOVdMUMpI7G 118io9uls5DJKQ==; Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:59:34 +0300 Message-Id: <86le0ee0o9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?6bq75p6d5b+g?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?6bq75p6d5b+g?= on Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:58:47 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#72888: Confusing descriptive text References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72888-done Cc: 72888-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: 麻枝忠 > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:58:47 +0800 > > Equality Predicates (GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual) > > In the descriptive text of function "equal": > > "The equal function recursively compares the contents of objects if they are integers, strings, markers, vectors, > bool-vectors, byte-code function objects, char-tables, records, or font objects." > > Shouldn't "integers" here be "conses" or "lists"? No (an integer could be a fixnum or a bignum), but lists and conses should be in that list. I've now added that on the emacs-30 release branch, and I'm therefore closing this bug. 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Shouldn't "integers" here be "conses" or "lists"? --0000000000002113200620e12021 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Equality Predicates (GNU Emacs Lisp Re= ference Manual)

In the descriptive text of function "equal&= quot;:

"The equal function recursively compares the contents of= objects if they are integers, strings, markers, vectors, bool-vectors, byt= e-code function objects, char-tables, records, or font objects."
Shouldn't "integers" here be "conses" or "li= sts"?
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It can be made even more = accurate: neither integers nor strings or bool-vectors are actually = compared recursively in a useful sense so we shouldn't claim that they = are, and nowadays both byte-compiled and interpreted closures are = compiled but we should note the usual intensionality problems when = comparing functions. Here is a proposed amendment. --Apple-Mail=_7073919B-0293-4894-9FBA-588D5CBDFBFC Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=equal-doc.diff Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="equal-doc.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit diff --git a/doc/lispref/objects.texi b/doc/lispref/objects.texi index 399a1d169c2..58577ed06c4 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/objects.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/objects.texi @@ -2414,9 +2414,9 @@ Equality Predicates @end example The @code{equal} function recursively compares the contents of objects -if they are integers, strings, markers, lists, cons cells, vectors, -bool-vectors, byte-code function objects, char-tables, records, or font -objects. +if they are lists, cons cells, vectors, records, markers, char-tables, +font objects, or function objects (closures)@footnote{However, equality +of distinct function objects cannot be guaranteed in general.). Comparison of strings is case-sensitive, but does not take account of text properties---it compares only the characters in the strings. --Apple-Mail=_7073919B-0293-4894-9FBA-588D5CBDFBFC-- From unknown Sun Aug 17 02:01:35 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#72888: Confusing descriptive text Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 13:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72888 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Cc: 72888@debbugs.gnu.org, maedaqu@gmail.com Received: via spool by 72888-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72888.172510931725114 (code B ref 72888); Sat, 31 Aug 2024 13:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 72888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2024 13:01:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1skNjo-0006X0-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 09:01:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1skNjm-0006Wk-Uo for 72888@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 09:01:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skNge-0001Id-93; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:58:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=422o1XjXzGzD6CytVkrTUzlzs/umZqS8wB1h7NTeYOc=; b=KrAwTJCNrTjIZdEOrInW Bntq/UM3lvAp8tKAKVjy7wa2tnsKrnoLNr6BEseCdgqwQytbqteYul1j8c3rGGjU4eptqYfbURlAw xN2mef52dQdeB7v5NFXAP2BgPQDcF4SrQan1p26/TonplxH/Ioydajp63snkkrWFfutOwPLPutBg0 XwkCEdW4qVRyHkuCyimlPVMeg+kuQtcX8Xgw/yOA2O+lcRlALCpCITe6V8zRKrfOYr6MI9YLK63ll 4p+t8L5tiO3z0GtdcT/DgH6exvUNQQrUKJFwQWWclkLFFMbaPO/YC33hSYO4LwYWjZk2Sqxw7WUIi wtf5I5BVpDj9Yw==; Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:58:32 +0300 Message-Id: <86ed64c0hz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <32535B11-34CF-4159-B791-5B5AD63CDA89@gmail.com> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:37:26 +0200) References: <32535B11-34CF-4159-B791-5B5AD63CDA89@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:37:26 +0200 > Cc: 麻枝忠 , > 72888@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thank you for making this text better. It can be made even more accurate: neither integers nor strings or bool-vectors are actually compared recursively in a useful sense so we shouldn't claim that they are, and nowadays both byte-compiled and interpreted closures are compiled but we should note the usual intensionality problems when comparing functions. > > Here is a proposed amendment. Doesn't that lose useful information? It only tells what is compared recursively, but doesn't tell about comparing strings or integers or bool-vectors by themselves, which is IMO important. 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[188.150.191.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-53540841c5bsm966741e87.229.2024.08.31.07.37.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 31 Aug 2024 07:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <86ed64c0hz.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:37:56 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5EEA70A7-D55B-4D87-86E1-B9C45EE994C9@gmail.com> References: <32535B11-34CF-4159-B791-5B5AD63CDA89@gmail.com> <86ed64c0hz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 31 aug. 2024 kl. 14.58 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > Doesn't that lose useful information? It only tells what is compared > recursively, but doesn't tell about comparing strings or integers or > bool-vectors by themselves, which is IMO important. That's a fair point. What about something like: The @code{equal} function compares numbers, strings and bool-vectors by value. Lists, cons cells, vectors, records, markers, char-tables, font objects, and function objects (closures)@footnote{However, equality of distinct function objects cannot be guaranteed in general.} are compared recursively by using @code{equal} on their constituent parts. From unknown Sun Aug 17 02:01:35 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#72888: Confusing descriptive text Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72888 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Cc: 72888@debbugs.gnu.org, maedaqu@gmail.com Received: via spool by 72888-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72888.172512052315116 (code B ref 72888); Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 72888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2024 16:08:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1skQeY-0003vk-OB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:08:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1skQeW-0003vR-Ce for 72888@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:08:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skQdU-0002jo-JD; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:07:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=4/BemrdXHqKugRQtF+O+b+sgVmOwNWJLs6zrB79DMA4=; b=PA7NsTsx8P9GoxJJAfya JkJblrCnD7mSn9ynqTTh5GvgLyzV71BZDEY30bdKwNBtIQwqsDo5JWzrRNX9IsDRKZu7Th1q55lN4 VYJLd9l2mmJgashbaF1bvyx8P3xICsumSRnqe68cKlUOGKf4ThC7LUv0JEGl06mjH9/fU1ffmRUW2 6GH1/QBtg+xxgXMmwYJfdARvGcCkAmbHlQokhLofaZzo7XIUc+HU5NHjsZaI7pPJsQB4HuikLGuFg Ib14NqeWvIrBbGfXllaoQh3M1YXjk5nMY2JB9XfPCfzw3uGcePXXrKPXMrVq7/zRfVbMeklrenZPZ dbHj4Ko8JMRuhg==; Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 19:07:34 +0300 Message-Id: <86a5gsbrqx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <5EEA70A7-D55B-4D87-86E1-B9C45EE994C9@gmail.com> (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= on Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:37:56 +0200) References: <32535B11-34CF-4159-B791-5B5AD63CDA89@gmail.com> <86ed64c0hz.fsf@gnu.org> <5EEA70A7-D55B-4D87-86E1-B9C45EE994C9@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Mattias Engdegård > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:37:56 +0200 > Cc: maedaqu@gmail.com, > 72888@debbugs.gnu.org > > 31 aug. 2024 kl. 14.58 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > > > Doesn't that lose useful information? It only tells what is compared > > recursively, but doesn't tell about comparing strings or integers or > > bool-vectors by themselves, which is IMO important. > > That's a fair point. What about something like: > > The @code{equal} function compares numbers, strings and bool-vectors by > value. Lists, cons cells, vectors, records, markers, char-tables, > font objects, and function objects (closures)@footnote{However, equality > of distinct function objects cannot be guaranteed in general.} are > compared recursively by using @code{equal} on their constituent parts. SGTM, thanks. 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[188.150.191.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-2f61517191asm11044111fa.88.2024.08.31.09.47.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 31 Aug 2024 09:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <86a5gsbrqx.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:47:27 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <32535B11-34CF-4159-B791-5B5AD63CDA89@gmail.com> <86ed64c0hz.fsf@gnu.org> <5EEA70A7-D55B-4D87-86E1-B9C45EE994C9@gmail.com> <86a5gsbrqx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 31 aug. 2024 kl. 18.07 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > SGTM, thanks. Thank you, push with minor tweak to emacs-30.