From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 11 22:37:46 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2024 02:37:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sdKwM-0008QS-Ge for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:37:46 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sdKwJ-0008QF-Tc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:37:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sdKth-00018Y-0K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:35:01 -0400 Received: from mta-snd-e06.auone-net.jp ([111.86.247.6]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sdKta-00014L-9G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:35:00 -0400 Received: from kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp by mta-snd-e06.auone-net.jp with ESMTP id <20240812023445125.YJCO.9150.kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp@mta-snd-e06.auone-net.jp>; Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:34:45 +0900 From: Kazuhiro Ito Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900 Message-ID: To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event X-Hashcash: 1:20:240811:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::lCWy6ztgEP15xUOn:1psF User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-cygwin) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=d1.dion.ne.jp; s=default-1; t=1723430085; bh=HZKU5DCBKnJogzCUfBKH3+DwuzklW/mcG0Y/jycxjkA=; h=From:Date:To:Subject; b=Xq3da4/DA4r/GTdHkZYrT1d0dqlFWkJOEthFKIIgSi9c1F/C/dtKoBo/JtU8c0T2ZgtdaowF QvvDwFWv07lYnG4iIamfuOkPPAFJKir21b9MIbe1zcvqZTKQb6/UpXI8pdrjU1qyE9mrHskJ2I DSalEx831es4gpGPXbcHNBnIkEP4v8YAtx4BtlSFTbv+E8LHY69cu5FLVYOfh2VAc6gEIEcVXt tCtBWznxBW8rqbvs566S7Gq9BM8veHHGCmxppauWKhtXoIESbvrrdWC73/wYK/s1vp62csPPPP wHLAh5iXVrZq559Q7I4bSu3DlXe2Mg+Q/13QaUwjTsFHZBcw== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=111.86.247.6; envelope-from=kzhr@d1.dion.ne.jp; helo=mta-snd-e06.auone-net.jp X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's default is ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . Is this inconsistency intended? -- Kazuhiro Ito From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 03:48:18 2024 Received: (at 72585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2024 07:48:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seVDW-0004Yv-GZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 03:48:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seVDT-0004Ye-NK for 72585@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 03:48:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1seVCm-0006fN-2w; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 03:47:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AAgS3fOk6s/i/3DB6A1ZzvhWs85vPMj0yS+E265UkVA=; b=gGWLvmg8ciUL BvOXXd50/otlxR1TP8ax9eo/AkQQ/whE9YwYVsCylw2ubTHeelqWPSgZDroMRxCGhqD3Uu+Y/UAke 0jQkCMLd7DI2oE5kAIwI1SQlczTK8XqYcu+4lDiOEv1L8nmIVZKgAmIjwK+7vBlDBW0Sr34bxxJn9 9rPzuKBNI7EYgct24Ohbxx6k0nn7C+Cdw/C/mDpBvtiXdhvIx6hSuPhlTSyO2x1mBoSxJUVitEvB3 DjgC4QdbH+VuZm2QSqaV4r4sOvQPIaS4ZeHlEqlf4YuWkiAFjLth17Rm0pX/XVlhhwgR8GQ8L8dip cV367nW/ag86IBUC+24kZQ==; Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 10:47:25 +0300 Message-Id: <86sev66xde.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Kazuhiro Ito , Po Lu , Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Kazuhiro Ito on Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585 Cc: 72585@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Kazuhiro Ito > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900 > > > mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are > `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's > default is > ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . > > Is this inconsistency intended? Adding Stefan and Po Lu. Any comments? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 07:22:52 2024 Received: (at 72585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2024 11:22:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seYZA-0001z7-3u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:22:52 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:8137) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seYZ7-0001yu-9O for 72585@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:22:50 -0400 Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 39CD9801C2; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:22:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1723720920; bh=AYfttTjA9NrX7dzIL+EF3cZU8lJ+ILJKXzv1FVGK3UM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=kQ1NrEuS4RoZ/ZayEy4qXfcDh7McfeqjgxgOPP3OYAV5ApN3hvayZQPOh1mjO0wby Pv8vE1TJiqMAIju5UZ6yfyEmAQYqLHxR3LpniA1vVC+rXoXvBoLdvFlv/LWEnlxSjK SH9tPLp0pkXWpF9ETm9ubmmygA/vm3q1o9BNfl3a34AsUBZYxYIt/G6wf+j0RDUTGh FWU7HcCk75Ajcgt9+3lnzNB2gUlPaw3RQclCyqFrZu84gr2TJnrTnp+UMeLKMwkHy5 +pTDzgu9UcJn93XfNMVbslW8SMSJEkMlaZR5AD2JL40gVN8rNBTUz+vx7mywX09+73 sd+7Lo7osNjlg== Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8ADC680244; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.9.87]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FD7B12066A; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:22:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Kazuhiro Ito Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event In-Reply-To: (Kazuhiro Ito's message of "Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900") Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:21:58 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.017 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585 Cc: 72585@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are > `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's > default is > ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . > > Is this inconsistency intended? Not sure what is the inconsistency you see here. If you mean the up/down switch, then it's "documented" in the docstring of `mouse-wheel-down-event`: Event used for scrolling down, beside =E2=80=98wheel-up=E2=80=99, if an= y. - Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 07:50:23 2024 Received: (at 72585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2024 11:50:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seYzm-0002eC-MY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:50:23 -0400 Received: from mta-snd-e05.auone-net.jp ([111.86.247.5]:52224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1seYzg-0002dx-J4 for 72585@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:50:21 -0400 Received: from kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp by mta-snd-e05.auone-net.jp with ESMTP id <20240815114937317.JSIT.26618.kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp@mta-snd-e05.auone-net.jp>; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 20:49:37 +0900 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 20:49:35 +0900 Message-ID: <857cci57lc.wl--xmue@d1.dion.ne.jp> From: Kazuhiro Ito To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=d1.dion.ne.jp; s=default-1; t=1723722577; bh=IhYplHi/OQC834KOQ7HdGk6dMzh/CMoFVJ6MiJnFTng=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=nJVUTdm0NHY66zhsD6tYEiUNz8KVve21EFwUcBbIZYsPw4APPbQjeI/z9+BlwQbOPQFL8V1o gDXNDyo5rKyPiw0srObhMdXbSU+gflTuODk86lnZ5VtlN0+dhVfP8wR05EAb2/8Agks9LO1wh0 RCmB6PzW5fyPH8R+Xrypp9DSlp7DDM99xEslMsOM0EEy+94AvAQeDchPz3f0tBRVEhjqqfHZ9d WX1HJfREtxeUzqI036MnVwamiqjRQcBno+uWWoaTRLGiYrXwL9Mtqn64ZxI5OWrF92JjhC8Q6a BLbFgpRdezV+b9f8S9Vp28miNoeoCqtJCGEwlynJ81mN+GSw== X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585 Cc: 72585@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are > > `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's > > default is > > ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . > > > > Is this inconsistency intended? > > Not sure what is the inconsistency you see here. Ah, sorry, I misread related documents. I don't have an environments on which emacs receives mouse-4/5 events for mouse wheel, so I couldn't confirm actual behavior. Because Mouse Input node on emacs.info say as below, > When you click the left mouse button, Emacs receives a mouse-1 > event. To see what command is bound to that event, you can type C-h > c and then press the left mouse button. Similarly, the middle mouse > button is mouse-2 and the right mouse button is mouse-3. If you have > a mouse with a wheel, the wheel events are commonly bound to either > wheel-down or wheel-up, or mouse-4 and mouse-5, but that depends on > the operating system configuration. > > In general, legacy X systems and terminals (see Using a Mouse in > Text Terminals) will report mouse-4 and mouse-5, while all other > systems will report wheel-down and wheel-up. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 929605478fc8ba0d0f5ddabafbee9ffa; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:58:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event In-Reply-To: <86sev66xde.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 15 Aug 2024 10:47:25 +0300") References: <86sev66xde.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 19:58:49 +0800 Message-ID: <877ccikneu.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22544 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 572 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585 Cc: 72585@debbugs.gnu.org, Kazuhiro Ito , Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Kazuhiro Ito >> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900 >> >> >> mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are >> `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's >> default is >> ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . >> >> Is this inconsistency intended? > > Adding Stefan and Po Lu. Any comments? It's intended, as by a series of historical accidents Emacs has a `wheel-down event that is used for scrolling down and vice versa. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 73e5fae83cda9483d9383f439fb2d115; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 23:56:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event In-Reply-To: <877ccikneu.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 15 Aug 2024 19:58:49 +0800") References: <86sev66xde.fsf@gnu.org> <877ccikneu.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 07:56:21 +0800 Message-ID: <8734n5l4re.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22544 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 689 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585 Cc: 72585@debbugs.gnu.org, Kazuhiro Ito , Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Kazuhiro Ito >>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:22:54 +0900 >>> >>> >>> mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are >>> `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's >>> default is >>> ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . >>> >>> Is this inconsistency intended? >> >> Adding Stefan and Po Lu. Any comments? > > It's intended, as by a series of historical accidents Emacs has a > `wheel-down event that is used for scrolling down and vice versa. A `wheel-up' event that is used for scrolling down. Sorry! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 16 09:35:59 2024 Received: (at 72585-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2024 13:35:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sex7W-0003VX-Rc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:35:59 -0400 Received: from mta-snd-e04.auone-net.jp ([111.86.247.4]:47712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sex7S-0003VI-Br for 72585-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:35:57 -0400 Received: from kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp by mta-snd-e04.auone-net.jp with ESMTP id <20240816133513764.KXPE.130002.kzhr.d1.dion.ne.jp@mta-snd-e04.auone-net.jp>; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 22:35:13 +0900 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 22:35:11 +0900 Message-ID: <85v8001tgw.wl--xmue@d1.dion.ne.jp> From: Kazuhiro Ito To: Po Lu , Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#72585: 31.0.50; inconsistency between mouse-wheel-buttons and mouse-wheel-[down/up]-event In-Reply-To: <8734n5l4re.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <86sev66xde.fsf@gnu.org> <877ccikneu.fsf@yahoo.com> <8734n5l4re.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=d1.dion.ne.jp; s=default-1; t=1723815313; bh=jPZQcE/XNcsBuNq7WNaIlrnRSH+DwA7sUL4tbKcJrmQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=VrqTul1+brN3kBq4Bc0G2AXgmEpRObkcbpbR5MLEC4ZAHQkOthd3h3pea/ROxEvTnYW9QtyG bl5K0fgZdM1KjGk6bq2RGlLmb+KyAO0Oy2L9BaiZc360IuSVDybQyGaLC3irrg76Pf/1+d1v+k GCCSQ0hpNMpi/DQE8jexg60SaVk7r+FptvQtMvf7sWj5EIcOT/gBfU1J8ztceNnc7urH2YmUl+ 4fq0Rxb7BMMXzYXlCwqD4gNcdWELVOHh0Ez/4KGArniORg0lwoebnjorPva6wsEY+vBWG6wmdo vmyZZE8o1zOr9I6H4TMqrY6v33NwutI+OtKu1PcWpTpIKVHg== X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72585-done Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 72585-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > >>> mouse-wheel-down-event and mouse-wheel-up-event default value are > >>> `mouse-4` and `mouse-5`, respectively. But mouse-wheel-buttons's > >>> default is > >>> ((4 . wheel-up) (5 . wheel-down) (6 . wheel-left) (7 . wheel-right)) . > >>> > >>> Is this inconsistency intended? > >> > >> Adding Stefan and Po Lu. Any comments? > > > > It's intended, as by a series of historical accidents Emacs has a > > `wheel-down event that is used for scrolling down and vice versa. > > A `wheel-up' event that is used for scrolling down. Sorry! Stefan and Po Lu, thank you for your answers and sorry for my misreading. It is not a bug, so I'm closing the issue. -- Kazuhiro Ito From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:11:55 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 11:24:13 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator