From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 21 00:50:59 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2010 04:50:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8n7C-0001vP-9f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:50:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8n79-0001vK-W2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:50:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8nAh-0000Qq-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:54:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:55290) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8nAh-0000Ky-1U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:54:35 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60088 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8myU-0006pf-7V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:41:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8myQ-0006zs-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:41:57 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcagg.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.66]:36860 helo=homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8myQ-0006zg-EF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:41:54 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EE134806A; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:41:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=EX1FRANZd/U49xlMl3pbJKTq8Dxu3yFTUO0D9O3oQKu35J40n SoqVQc0PDwvCgNV89S+h3AE387k2hIs+QGBrm++hMCziSftbbyNoiAO7sqMf3v1V iJMoAp0vCA/b0QgnwMQsQfKsaiDZrMP1ITsngYDzw6eLrF+wYDjuU8RIDg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=X51zosFUeSvVbfbCk2OjdEqEJLI=; b=jLv+zExaznBSj TZ0oqHHJVgh9vKWQHcor8lcP4sulZVZyTwq8LQpVPGS+upbV9qqWsGfw1Vnylx2/ Rix8InRnxrZWQ7BD6jMSnbTyQSdFCVmOyiJ14OB+P9gbS+/K6B5rXwaZQhhnGqSB dWY1pvCJT/VZpXtVjQLWvlnEuEnI7I= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-2-75.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.2.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF714348062; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: bugs@gnus.org Subject: Re: Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? vs control chars. References: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:41:49 +0800 Message-ID: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> jidanni@jidanni.org writes: >> "Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? (y or n) y" will still pass >> control characters. Yes they are ASCII, but who usually wants to pass them? LMI> grep -nH -e "Convert non-ASCII" *.el LMI> Grep finished with no matches found at Tue Oct 19 18:45:12 24.0.50/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el.gz:345: (y-or-n-p "Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? ")) ;; Check the buffer contents and reject non-English letters. ;; FIXME message-mode probably does this anyway. (goto-char (point-min)) (skip-chars-forward "\0-\177") (unless (eobp) (if (or report-emacs-bug-no-confirmation (y-or-n-p "Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? ")) (while (progn (skip-chars-forward "\0-\177") (not (eobp))) (let ((ch (following-char))) (delete-char 1) (insert (format "=%02x" ch)))))) Anyway, the typical scenario is the user is asked to submit a backtrace, and of course backtraces are full of nasty (useful, even?) binary mess characters, which triggers multiple question upon trying to send, some from the above, some from message.el. Anyway, looks like time to fix the FIXME above. 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In-reply-to: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:14:21 +0200 Message-id: References: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEXi4uH08+zFw73e3d/9 /fz49/ceFw2bnJhlYVvW1tfMzM3////+//7o5+Xb297u7upb57v3AAACKklEQVQ4jZWTMYgTQRSG RwThWMJhcVisQRiL41aR4DaKEjjIVVNoMFvIEO1iuEqCMLmAhXqYtbJTYjCF2GRtbu92UHkr21gI G+EsBHW9Ko1yIh5y1Rbnm2zUXMxdzM/C8uab9968N2+I0+ir9b0n0+yaKEIcVLuBX6PVSoBpnhHX EdSFqIlq5RQuZrtmV+3PGgo8ceijOYMmkbI9D/PrHQSVikAtVVCiYtBZdPliL6pQ5Zpt12vX7Cr+ RFWgw4PSYoa0qbNkUKNNawaltN2eMzPmaXGckG6GJEqtpzYGRGAPTQBysMB6oAgXdBnBO7haCLg8 DGfZp29oEzgG87qMYQvy3I2lBVMKxP6/oUJ4zSZLvsH64CNc0YKm/xh+6mtaMA2UX4yD5n4ee+aw wuECE+DZ8TzHc29Dnrlcznh2pOwExP0CA11aCfgMxN9huyL5ZFxyP93b8VKAox250V99fhNzUH45 CpqrZRDPDi1jgVNwKX5xG0ESc9WG2c0Py9jCDvjw5t5gjjAMO79P0PkLOrBbBPKwwKW+IlieSe4V sI6HJz2O4AcUY1dbqYdp/jZytxU44Z7/E8pN9VvmU54+un936ZDUg3GeIigNqVwq3S3dR2CP0q1R OcZfLc6q5L4FFpPMy0EBcrxX4EEoRoHmTcMOX4uD97AORR5s/uckDs6LuqjRHm5ZUzn8A5DmryJ3 SzVVd88BkbUoj2331FwFTBZgBiy0J3kG48AvvAfGRqBvEAgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Various's _Auteur Labels Factory Records 1987_: "Fadela - N'Sel Fik" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org, bugs@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: bugs@gnus.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > (if (or report-emacs-bug-no-confirmation > (y-or-n-p "Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? ")) [...] > Anyway, the typical scenario is the user is asked to submit a backtrace, > and of course backtraces are full of nasty (useful, even?) binary mess > characters, which triggers multiple question upon trying to send, some > from the above, some from message.el. Yeah, that seems really suboptimal, but I'm not sure what the fix should be. Converting everything to hex seems rather odd, since that would make l=E1tin and unicode characters also be hexified, which is weird. I think the right fix is to remove this question altogether from emacsbug.el, and inhibit the "remove non-printable characters" query from message.el. Any objections? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 21 13:52:32 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2010 17:52:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zJY-0001PF-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:52:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zJW-0001P9-V4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:52:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zND-0002IJ-9X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:56:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:41160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zNC-0002Hc-8J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:56:19 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54661 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8zN9-0000fi-4K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:56:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zN3-0002FT-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:56:13 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:48514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zN2-0002F7-Su; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:56:09 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LAN00G00J42OV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:56:01 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.29.140]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LAN00G7PJ599I30@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:55:59 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:56:05 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? vs control chars. In-reply-to: To: bugs@gnus.org Message-id: <83tykf8m6i.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org, bugs@gnus.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:14:21 +0200 > Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org, bugs@gnus.org, > =09emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > Yeah, that seems really suboptimal, but I'm not sure what the fix s= hould > be. Converting everything to hex seems rather odd, since that woul= d > make l=E1tin and unicode characters also be hexified, which is weir= d. I think the right fix for control characters below 32 is to convert them to the ^X ASCII representation. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 21 14:38:42 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2010 18:38:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P902E-0001lm-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:38:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P902C-0001ld-8n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:38:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P905u-0005ZY-Qc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:54625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P905u-0005ZS-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:30 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50244 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P905t-0007Sh-1B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P905r-0005ZB-Mi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:28 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:38593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P905n-0005Xy-C4; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:23 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o9LIgIQ5004040; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:18 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E55B1B45E5; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? vs control chars. Message-ID: References: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tykf8m6i.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:42:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83tykf8m6i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:56:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3655=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, rfrancoise@debian.org, bugs@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) > I think the right fix for control characters below 32 is to convert > them to the ^X ASCII representation. I'm not sure I'd agree enough to make it a promptless default. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 21 15:02:58 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2010 19:02:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P90Pi-0001wf-Fr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:02:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P90Pg-0001wZ-UQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:02:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P90TK-0002mk-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:06:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:56531) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P90TK-0002mf-JI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:06:42 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36728 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P90T7-0000h6-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:06:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P90IB-0008K8-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:55:15 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P90IB-0008JW-Ht for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:55:11 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P90I7-0004lK-Dv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:55:07 +0200 Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:55:07 +0200 Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:55:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? vs control chars. Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:52:02 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <87fww040oi.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tykf8m6i.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUwJxvDyr10Wz6EgF4X Eg5VQi1ciiUhAAACWUlEQVQ4jU2TsZbjIAxFNQ70S9j0tjB9gHVPQXpGtv7/V1bCzmQ4OQlwee/J wgHnS8aIvLtnKLe7T3denAxwLpcxXLilbN3irfPOeQGy6X1JZXmKyn37SQUXGHApc/Lf6f71Bi55 AckX56L78o8PEM+kKpks2T+XD0jil3Ti9ucDxvoCqeAJ/sLD/gIuu72MyR/bb+5j5VIO49c9vuvX UNxP4PnK8LeaPlb3UiidVs4I8BfwpWyXkwDdSGevkjTuPC89Mq8f4EtcTqDrXyCXbcmo/U3SGwE+ DVAKCnBn5707JplqQdBaBbu7kjmIwh9WahHFQ8AYlZtlzvmow9Q9gbYNGiifSo4M4p0xlFlAAcPW HmI5fJkiYd4AgGsjno5miXuvrQ/cgXpvDSwYzeC51oIdoB+i6M1YsAo602aT5MgmtLq2ZkEUkgFT saUbMOYAPubWu1qBGFK2IRop8QBaaVoNSZDdONKTCY1KRAFwGJJSbOw2FKl2hn02EDau8bmb8fwW MVKfOkZRSEDndrbmRTjTbNfYVVH2LYd+KqwotC/cL0BwgRgpiB8z0IxTxNBHyAtxZkQlQPFtVeUT cbVB/kjDKuwxvq9lx6MOABBmzQVplF6XNKTuGRmMHpU7YDoB4vraMUp/QZstQ1LVSsENR3/f+28w Ty8ptitApFHhABwnPSsK5LF9gS6gxwEoRjUKqNdQ2eLtX0ZNEZ1KsgJZ2XJbUd+gAc4MktdKYu1B UZbjEXSCI5LlsjppnT/lxihvBEggH6/R3RPQpdn0Wwoa4Hx20kSOrDl65D+BqL+ncR+OdQAAAABJ RU5ErkJggg== Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Fairport Convention's _Unhalfbricking_: "Cajun Woman" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XYEIovZgQXkmRSfKTVIBzHiwFPU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Stefan Monnier writes: >> I think the right fix for control characters below 32 is to convert >> them to the ^X ASCII representation. > > I'm not sure I'd agree enough to make it a promptless default. I think it might make sense for the bug reports, but I think that (in general) there's no point in doing any conversion of anything. I mean, the mail will be encoded with a proper transfer encoding when sending, won't it? Unless one of the sending methods used by emacsbugs doesn't encode anything. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 06 14:36:50 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2011 19:36:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmAPi-0004he-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:36:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmAPg-0004hR-GB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:36:49 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmAY1-0004LF-Ga for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:45:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:45:25 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 7256 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) merge 7925 7256 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 07 10:35:10 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2011 15:35:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmT7N-0007Q7-PL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:35:09 -0500 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmT7L-0007Ps-NV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:35:08 -0500 Received: from furball (dhcp128036014010.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p17FhkqW013780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:43:46 -0500 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E44F1609AC; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:05:35 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 7925 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:05:35 -0500 Message-ID: <87wrld6w5c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) close 7925 thanks From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:11:13 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 09 12:22:07 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2011 16:22:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R23qB-0002VZ-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:22:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R23q8-0002VN-Ab; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:22:05 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R23mA-0000dl-Pt; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:17:58 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Leo Subject: Re: bug#9465: 23.3.50; Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? References: X-Spook: Delta Force LABLINK ANC NATO 9/11 lock picking lynch LLNL X-Ran: EEE}=wF^3R=K)d;L]qU},xX]ew3!`hc\&C@M:{|]ify8KX6Pcu7OiC&KVkx-&TyWxbq`]D X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:17:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:25:43 +0800") Message-ID: <11aaadr8p5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 9465@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) unarchive 7925 forcemerge 7925 9465 stop Leo wrote: > In report-emacs-bug-hook, there is this 'converting non-ASCII to > hexadecimal' message. Not in the trunk there isn't. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:11:13 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator