GNU bug report logs - #72528
29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private ispell

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Reported by: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 16:49:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Found in version 29.2

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private ispell 
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 18:47:55 +0200
Hi

I have used ispell+flyspell for many years, and have also added words
not found in the ispell dictoionaries to my private lists, for example

.ispell_castellano

contains words like

acreditación

saved in UTF8.
That was never a problem.

now it is:

Steps to reprocuce the problem (provided you have a private wordlist in
UTF8)

1. emacs -Q
2. load the file containing
(setq  ispell-program-name "ispell")
(autoload 'flyspell-mode "flyspell" "On-the-fly spelling checking" t)
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell)
  
(setq flyspell-issue-message-flag nil)
  
(add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell)

  (defun turn-on-flyspell ()
    "Turn on FlySpell minor mode."
    (flyspell-mode t))
  
open a file:

%%  -*-coding: utf-8;ispell-local-dictionary: "castellano8";-*-

nacion

mark the region containing the word nacion, run ispell-region

the following error appears
Starting new Ispell process ispell with castellano8 dictionary...done
ispell-init-process: @(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 2023
Word 'zoonóticas' contains illegal characters

Word 'Zacarías' contains illegal characters

Word 'Vázquez' contains illegal characters


any idea what is the reason for this (new) behavior? Shall I save the
list in latin-1? (I did and the message disappears, but I am still
puzzled)

regards

Uwe Brauer 




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bug#72528; Package emacs. (Thu, 08 Aug 2024 18:35:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2;
 ispell considers that entries in the private ispell
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 21:31:07 +0300
> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 18:47:55 +0200
> From:  Uwe Brauer via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have used ispell+flyspell for many years, and have also added words
> not found in the ispell dictoionaries to my private lists, for example
> 
> .ispell_castellano
> 
> contains words like
> 
> acreditación
> 
> saved in UTF8.
> That was never a problem.
> 
> now it is:
> 
> Steps to reprocuce the problem (provided you have a private wordlist in
> UTF8)
> 
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. load the file containing
> (setq  ispell-program-name "ispell")
> (autoload 'flyspell-mode "flyspell" "On-the-fly spelling checking" t)
> (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell)
>   
> (setq flyspell-issue-message-flag nil)
>   
> (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell)
> 
>   (defun turn-on-flyspell ()
>     "Turn on FlySpell minor mode."
>     (flyspell-mode t))
>   
> open a file:
> 
> %%  -*-coding: utf-8;ispell-local-dictionary: "castellano8";-*-
> 
> nacion
> 
> mark the region containing the word nacion, run ispell-region
> 
> the following error appears
> Starting new Ispell process ispell with castellano8 dictionary...done
> ispell-init-process: @(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 2023
> Word 'zoonóticas' contains illegal characters
> 
> Word 'Zacarías' contains illegal characters
> 
> Word 'Vázquez' contains illegal characters
> 
> 
> any idea what is the reason for this (new) behavior? Shall I save the
> list in latin-1? (I did and the message disappears, but I am still
> puzzled)

If it's really Ispell that you are using (not Aspell or Hunspell that
pretend to be Ispell), then you cannot use UTF-8, because Ispell
doesn't support it.  You must use 8-bit encoding such as Latin-1.




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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private
 ispell
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 21:47:26 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

> If it's really Ispell that you are using (not Aspell or Hunspell that
> pretend to be Ispell), then you cannot use UTF-8, because Ispell
> doesn't support it.  You must use 8-bit encoding such as Latin-1.

Ok I used (setq  ispell-program-name "ispell")

I tried now tried out aspell but then I receive 
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
  signal(error ("Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading."))
  error("%s" "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
  ispell-init-process()
  ispell-buffer-local-words()
  ispell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
  flyspell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
  flyspell-word()
  flyspell-post-command-hook()

Hm I think I stick with latin-1.

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I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.
I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. 
I support the EU and NATO membership of Ukraine. 

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private
 ispell
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:23:49 +0300
tags 72528 notabug
close 72528
thanks

> From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
> Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 21:47:26 +0200
> 
> > If it's really Ispell that you are using (not Aspell or Hunspell that
> > pretend to be Ispell), then you cannot use UTF-8, because Ispell
> > doesn't support it.  You must use 8-bit encoding such as Latin-1.
> 
> Ok I used (setq  ispell-program-name "ispell")
> 
> I tried now tried out aspell but then I receive 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
>   signal(error ("Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading."))
>   error("%s" "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
>   ispell-init-process()
>   ispell-buffer-local-words()
>   ispell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
>   flyspell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
>   flyspell-word()
>   flyspell-post-command-hook()

You need to make sure the dictionaries you want to use are installed.
In this case, you seem to lack the dictionary for German.

> Hm I think I stick with latin-1.

As you wish.

Anyway, there's no bug here, so I'm closing this.




Added tag(s) notabug. Request was from Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 05:27:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> Request was from Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 09 Aug 2024 05:27:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #21 received at 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private
 ispell
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:56:25 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

>> If it's really Ispell that you are using (not Aspell or Hunspell that
>> pretend to be Ispell), then you cannot use UTF-8, because Ispell
>> doesn't support it.  You must use 8-bit encoding such as Latin-1.

> Ok I used (setq  ispell-program-name "ispell")

> I tried now tried out aspell but then I receive 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
>   signal(error ("Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading."))
>   error("%s" "Error: The file \"/usr/lib/aspell/deutsch\" can not be opened for reading.")
>   ispell-init-process()
>   ispell-buffer-local-words()
>   ispell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
>   flyspell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
>   flyspell-word()
>   flyspell-post-command-hook()

> Hm I think I stick with latin-1.
Another problem, now changed to latin-1 I receive an error using latin-1



Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error #("@(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 20..." 0 52 (charset iso-8859-1) 53 98 (charset iso-8859-1) 100 144 (charset iso-8859-1) 146 190 (charset iso-8859-1) 192 238 (charset iso-8859-1) 240 284 (charset iso-8859-1) 286 329 (charset iso-8859-1) 331 376 (charset iso-8859-1) 378 422 (charset iso-8859-1) 424 468 (charset iso-8859-1) 470 516 (charset iso-8859-1) 518 562 (charset iso-8859-1) 564 607 (charset iso-8859-1)))
  signal(error (#("@(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 20..." 0 52 (charset iso-8859-1) 53 98 (charset iso-8859-1) 100 144 (charset iso-8859-1) 146 190 (charset iso-8859-1) 192 238 (charset iso-8859-1) 240 284 (charset iso-8859-1) 286 329 (charset iso-8859-1) 331 376 (charset iso-8859-1) 378 422 (charset iso-8859-1) 424 468 (charset iso-8859-1) 470 516 (charset iso-8859-1) 518 562 (charset iso-8859-1) 564 607 (charset iso-8859-1))))
  error("%s" #("@(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 20..." 0 52 (charset iso-8859-1) 53 98 (charset iso-8859-1) 100 144 (charset iso-8859-1) 146 190 (charset iso-8859-1) 192 238 (charset iso-8859-1) 240 284 (charset iso-8859-1) 286 329 (charset iso-8859-1) 331 376 (charset iso-8859-1) 378 422 (charset iso-8859-1) 424 468 (charset iso-8859-1) 470 516 (charset iso-8859-1) 518 562 (charset iso-8859-1) 564 607 (charset iso-8859-1)))
  ispell-init-process()
  ispell-buffer-local-words()
  ispell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
  flyspell-accept-buffer-local-defs()
  flyspell-word()
  flyspell-post-command-hook()
  run-hooks(post-command-hook)


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I strongly condemn Hamas heinous despicable pogroms/atrocities on Israel
I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.
I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. 
I support the EU and NATO membership of Ukraine. 

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Message #24 received at 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private
 ispell
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 13:29:18 +0300
> From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:56:25 +0200
> 
> Another problem, now changed to latin-1 I receive an error using latin-1
> 
> 
> 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error #("@(#) International Ispell Version 3.4.06 30 Oct 20..." 0 52 (charset iso-8859-1) 53 98 (charset iso-8859-1) 100 144 (charset iso-8859-1) 146 190 (charset iso-8859-1) 192 238 (charset iso-8859-1) 240 284 (charset iso-8859-1) 286 329 (charset iso-8859-1) 331 376 (charset iso-8859-1) 378 422 (charset iso-8859-1) 424 468 (charset iso-8859-1) 470 516 (charset iso-8859-1) 518 562 (charset iso-8859-1) 564 607 (charset iso-8859-1)))

Please start from "emacs -Q".  If you get this error in that case as
well, post a complete recipe.  If "emacs -Q" works, look into your
customizations for the culprit.




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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 72528-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#72528: 29.2; ispell considers that entries in the private
 ispell
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 15:14:23 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 72528 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:56:25 +0200
>> 

> Please start from "emacs -Q".  If you get this error in that case as
> well, post a complete recipe.  If "emacs -Q" works, look into your
> customizations for the culprit.

It is my setting sorry, cannot reproduce it with emacs -Q.



-- 
I strongly condemn Hamas heinous despicable pogroms/atrocities on Israel
I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.
I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. 
I support the EU and NATO membership of Ukraine. 

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