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Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a --- doc/guix.texi | 16 +++++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index 41814042f5..abd7e2f279 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -860,8 +860,22 @@ Setting Up the Daemon @section Setting Up the Daemon @cindex daemon +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running +to use Guix has already been set up and you can run @command{guix} +commands in your terminal program. For plain usage, feel free to skip +this section. You should continue with the following section, +@ref{Application Setup}. + +However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots +(@pxref{Chrooting into an existing system}) or WSL (manual start-up is +not needed, though, for WSL images created with Guix, @pxref{System +Images, @code{wsl2-image-type}}). If you want to know more or +optimize your system, this section is worth reading. + Operations such as building a package or running the garbage collector -are all performed by a specialized process, the @dfn{build daemon}, on +are all performed by a specialized process, the build daemon, on behalf of clients. Only the daemon may access the store and its associated database. Thus, any operation that manipulates the store goes through the daemon. 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Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a --- Changes since v1: * better commit message * give command to test daemon * shortened WSL doc/guix.texi | 21 ++++++++++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index b7eb8fd346..201573b5b1 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -860,8 +860,27 @@ Setting Up the Daemon @section Setting Up the Daemon @cindex daemon +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running +to use Guix has already been set up and you can run @command{guix} +commands in your terminal program, @pxref{Getting Started}: + +@example +guix build hello +@end example + +If this works, feel free to skip this section. You should continue +with the following section, @ref{Application Setup}. + +However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots +(@pxref{Chrooting into an existing system}) or WSL (not needed for WSL +images created with Guix, @pxref{System Images, +@code{wsl2-image-type}}). If you want to know more or optimize your +system, this section is worth reading. + Operations such as building a package or running the garbage collector -are all performed by a specialized process, the @dfn{build daemon}, on +are all performed by a specialized process, the build daemon, on behalf of clients. Only the daemon may access the store and its associated database. Thus, any operation that manipulates the store goes through the daemon. 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Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a --- Changes since v2: * reword: If this works -> If this runs through without error doc/guix.texi | 22 +++++++++++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index b7eb8fd346..71c9c5c7ff 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -860,8 +860,28 @@ Setting Up the Daemon @section Setting Up the Daemon @cindex daemon +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running +to use Guix has already been set up and you can run @command{guix} +commands in your terminal program, @pxref{Getting Started}: + +@example +guix build hello +@end example + +If this runs through without error, feel free to skip this section. +You should continue with the following section, @ref{Application +Setup}. + +However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots +(@pxref{Chrooting into an existing system}) or WSL (not needed for WSL +images created with Guix, @pxref{System Images, +@code{wsl2-image-type}}). If you want to know more or optimize your +system, this section is worth reading. + Operations such as building a package or running the garbage collector -are all performed by a specialized process, the @dfn{build daemon}, on +are all performed by a specialized process, the build daemon, on behalf of clients. Only the daemon may access the store and its associated database. Thus, any operation that manipulates the store goes through the daemon. 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To: 72439@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000032386f061f287dee" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000032386f061f287dee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, I'd not use "some of us have reason to", maybe something like: "if you want to" -- Vincent Legoll --00000000000032386f061f287dee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--00000000000032386f061f287dee-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 08 07:22:49 2024 Received: (at 72439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2024 11:22:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35725 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sc1EH-0007rv-6P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2024 07:22:49 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.162]:45751) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sc1EF-0007rm-K0 for 72439@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2024 07:22:48 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wfl4q1CrPz3v9W; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:22:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1723116139; bh=B9ro1kAB842c5de05JufSJPNFtqLUTaxAPzqPV/JQ1c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=R1hxtBtEa0lKkOrT2vDEeXMVoWmJQS4Kuh9uO7D+wwMuzcnxTLA4NkGS6Ckcx2Li/ x/phy7t/aMBCaQyFkcr9BqFIcLIR3wX2TyWyZduvNvrYvL8nDXIvK8rmBA4qkSPz2S cEPYy3IZ0k+WnXhr7+gpWVEUX7fNYcyTZLnOcGHRAy4ZQzGi2l+ZhC9JrFAv2/Ngka Ll1o0RzFd2UmntCY5H0kMk7sNUdw1WrVvQ0ydm1X+QnO19j0yNaf3KN4SYaPf2o8XS ZN9Vgb4nvz/oH+m6UkTSiZ3wDQJZjmUI7MKsTBKCinYlwG8KwScRPwq0p5/z9j4f/h vrbImuKF1Bv8Q== Received: from policy01-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wfl4q0Tjdz3v7L; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:22:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy01-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy01-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wfl4p4hzSz8scN; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:22:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianhp (ipb2186896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.24.104.150]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32C8A83DCC; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:22:13 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Vincent Legoll Subject: Re: [bug#72439] [PATCH] doc: Setting Up the Daemon: Add paragraphs whom this section is for. In-Reply-To: (Vincent Legoll's message of "Thu, 8 Aug 2024 09:16:49 +0000") References: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 13:22:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87frrfgsyj.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 32C8A83DCC X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: 0/UUignV2zm0nm7o8Q+N3zqAdqaL25NBd6lKvkYSX3Ib9k0bQ8NpdFav X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439 Cc: 72439@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Thank you for your feedback. Vincent Legoll writes: > Hello, > > I'd not use "some of us have reason to", maybe something like: "if you wa= nt to" Yes, =E2=80=9Csome of us have reason to=E2=80=9D was unclear. =E2=80=9Cif you want to=E2=80=9D also says that it is optional. What I wanted to make clear, though, is that there is a benefit to reading the section. Maybe: diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index 71c9c5c7ff..d3e615e02c 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -872,7 +872,8 @@ Setting Up the Daemon You should continue with the following section, @ref{Application Setup}. =20 -However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, +However, if it applies to you, now would be a good time to +replace outdated daemon versions, tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots (@pxref{Chrooting into an existing system}) or WSL (not needed for WSL Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 09 05:12:48 2024 Received: (at 72439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2024 09:12:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37664 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1scLfz-0000zd-QA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2024 05:12:48 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.61.103]:51573) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1scLfx-0000zU-NZ for 72439@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2024 05:12:46 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WgJ8J5qBcz8412 for <72439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Aug 2024 11:12:16 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1723194736; bh=aLAB7L2YhDbdOo4ZtTlThC77X+gsS4n2p5aNqYzkkac=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Ie/9yzBl1ouunRhzD2aXki1w2dTBjAiws42Zszk/FUy3fA9zAnCcOXDJOl1+ZtuOz lkoVH2Y3YUvBBSIvZeD0TkoXxfAdy8oHSR9rzomS+8HpXF7aY3+KxFRCTh2JnaDQ/Z H3RmVyWyn/eeguGqJKm7uANJdlJjCGWguIjvA2CA+6Gj1QvOSTBD0TtBjRaVMjsNsr +p00LTJx24FNEqZTszGduFh+engLdidLKD1t9Zrl6OIU5m23uoVdOv2nIh7R4XaQw0 iBCejNVbamT+A6vjJSHNKYwLv9M1RUrE0WcPfbt0vS9XXveexXU+p/4UX34sbuwot9 I47rnulPJfWKQ== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WgJ8J5QvNz82G6 for <72439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Aug 2024 11:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WgJ8J3w6Gz8sZV for <72439@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Aug 2024 11:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianhp.fritz.box (ipb2186896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.24.104.150]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95F39840D4; Fri, 9 Aug 2024 11:12:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Florian Pelz To: 72439@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: [PATCH v4] doc: Setting Up the Daemon: Give guidance to whom this section is useful. Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 11:09:13 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.45.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Debbugs-Cc: Florian Pelz , Vincent Legoll , pelzflorian , Ludovic Courtès , Matthew Trzcinski , Maxim Cournoyer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 95F39840D4 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: pKgpyAOb8+taeDiVv8XkIJFrUbBG2L/9MwmNGtWU4otadISdMmd1E+Np X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439 Cc: Florian Pelz X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * doc/guix.texi (Setting Up the Daemon): Specify intended audience. Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a --- Changes since v3: * reword: some of us have reason to -> now would be a good time to doc/guix.texi | 22 +++++++++++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index b7eb8fd346..6e03d8bbcc 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -860,8 +860,28 @@ Setting Up the Daemon @section Setting Up the Daemon @cindex daemon +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running +to use Guix has already been set up and you can run @command{guix} +commands in your terminal program, @pxref{Getting Started}: + +@example +guix build hello +@end example + +If this runs through without error, feel free to skip this section. +You should continue with the following section, @ref{Application +Setup}. + +However, now would be a good time to replace outdated daemon versions, +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots +(@pxref{Chrooting into an existing system}) or WSL (not needed for WSL +images created with Guix, @pxref{System Images, +@code{wsl2-image-type}}). If you want to know more or optimize your +system, this section is worth reading. + Operations such as building a package or running the garbage collector -are all performed by a specialized process, the @dfn{build daemon}, on +are all performed by a specialized process, the build daemon, on behalf of clients. Only the daemon may access the store and its associated database. Thus, any operation that manipulates the store goes through the daemon. 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Hello Florian,

On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 9:12=E2=80= =AFAM Florian Pelz <pelzfl= orian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
* doc/guix.texi (Setting Up the Daemon): Specify intend= ed audience.

LGTM

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In-Reply-To: (Vincent Legoll's message of "Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:23:20 +0000") References: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 16:11:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87o760jwmv.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C050883B18 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: RWXG7n2rh9lpMmWnGJUrp3cTrSQW3+74CltCUQJoas4ROqiqxLiVPE4d X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439-done Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Maxim Cournoyer , Matthew Trzcinski , 72439-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Thank you Vincent for reviewing; pushed as de714bcb46d61922e0efc10783ea23fb0202f583. 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In-Reply-To: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> (Florian Pelz's message of "Sat, 3 Aug 2024 10:15:25 +0200") References: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: =?utf-8?Q?D=C3=A9cadi?= 30 Thermidor an 232 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour du Moulin X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:17:00 +0200 Message-ID: <8734n4788z.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439 Cc: Maxim Cournoyer , Matthew Trzcinski , 72439@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Florian, Florian Pelz skribis: > * doc/guix.texi (Setting Up the Daemon): Specify intended audience. > > Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a Good idea. > +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running s/the// (I think?) > +However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, > +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload > +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots I=E2=80=99d add a comma before =E2=80=9Cor=E2=80=9D, and s/Chroots/``chroot= s''/ Otherwise LGTM, thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 16 14:43:40 2024 Received: (at 72439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2024 18:43:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sf1vI-0003gw-3l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 14:43:40 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.98]:34787) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sf1vE-0003gk-Uf for 72439@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 14:43:38 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WlrTY4fL5z61xJ; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:42:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1723833777; bh=VsCTae6o+jdpgFGjDT9+nJ9O0SKYMCINehjoKp7ce+I=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=WozywdWmIEm2nxvuLRxpRSUBWTtMio0k5LcnWIxdnRWzhiLCVkDCJ5y8z2TdzlY14 gO/MMHu1WkawJJDILCCThL7b2SSXwS0OGivnx/TocgxLRF+2myUsYO8TF2sbu5SNPi I03HGCjnMYd0gtYqBluV4QCKOIHJyudEbkAiObHmHZlSkr5UFEJdFShKehXQWfU8wt 0hmjtOdtClOFpMKKIXNVuSZnA7IK/RuGHdqk825Uz3ZOvQu6Hsd4JyEGYbA/T3dL/4 yYEUfZX42IGg5sYFuh967cdnZyVdYsaQXY5BDDoXie7O6RawEklPzyuc845vb3JHuV ByoTYxWSg0YBw== Received: from policy01-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WlrTY3vTsz4xFL; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:42:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy01-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.897 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy01-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WlrTX6mHkz8t3y; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianhp (ipb2186896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.24.104.150]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F4B2840BE; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:42:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: [bug#72439] [PATCH] doc: Setting Up the Daemon: Add paragraphs whom this section is for. In-Reply-To: <8734n4788z.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:17:00 +0200") References: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> <8734n4788z.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:42:49 +0200 Message-ID: <878qwwb97a.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5F4B2840BE X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: gHV4tb6nidjCnRuIrMDOeHPDUlvU4MDo/zPuaSqYYFqCmayJ8yy+cvd0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439 Cc: Maxim Cournoyer , Matthew Trzcinski , 72439@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo. Ohh sorry, I pushed this already when it had one review and a week was over. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Florian Pelz skribis: > >> * doc/guix.texi (Setting Up the Daemon): Specify intended audience. >> >> Change-Id: I784c5f720aa87bddb6455e42181a1e9de5d7ec9a > > Good idea. > >> +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running > > s/the// (I think?) IMHO a definite article is warranted, because the installation was described in the previous section. >> +However, some of us have reason to replace outdated daemon versions, >> +tweak it, perform builds on other machines (@pxref{Daemon Offload >> +Setup}) or start it manually in special environments like Chroots > > I=E2=80=99d add a comma before =E2=80=9Cor=E2=80=9D, An Oxford comma is often used and sometimes not in the manual. Such as > 22.6 Alternative Setups > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Alternative setups than Emacs may let you work on Guix with a similar > development experience and they might work better with the tools you > currently use or help you make the transition to Emacs. or > 22.8.6 Cyclic Module Dependencies > --------------------------------- > [=E2=80=A6] > Care would need to be taken to ensure the above procedure is only > ever used in a package delayed fields or within another procedure also > not called at the top level. We could enforce one unified style, it just is less natural to me. > and s/Chroots/``chroots''/ > > Otherwise LGTM, thanks! > > Ludo=E2=80=99. Yes, I will prepare a follow-up patch for chroots. Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 16 17:06:17 2024 Received: (at 72439-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2024 21:06:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sf49I-0007JI-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:06:17 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.170]:45817) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sf49G-0007JA-H2 for 72439-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:06:15 -0400 Received: from mors-relay8203.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay8203.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wlvf71BQGz8bWt; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:05:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1723842335; bh=sTIkejShtR6eXh5TSSXOL50zsDr8e/uXM3XUUgSA/pQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=hdz4RQXIJ5LaxUZ83e6MI/J5VIuX8y+egeMMJamV5hPfV2cYBnFV6mM90lwJCe+Ce 1/H2xR7mkFT41CtV9pSQguLoyM4hhL6dWEX0SFK+xi97rZf/qZpo93XMZDMXWj7UAh Bkz0CbymaG0L+jiPRjOCS6ibI0xHcYvDaT8b5n5zccgnP955i8g6zDRgCL2L07zGUa 0Zt8ouxN9k6zXq2rZ/YVt0AmKCeg/kAbyIjgXZqJ5f+7zjGlgIQabgmst0pgm79X4R 3/Xu1r2A3imxnr7IhQR7zwBEZR84ojqWfTwwgzG3r+5Q2HCt+bMA37RmR/8XakomNl NVZUZx/3MSVqA== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay8203.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wlvf70TmCz8bPq; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wlvf54lS9z8scM; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianhp (ipb2186896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.24.104.150]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE8C98412E; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:05:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: [bug#72439] [PATCH] doc: Setting Up the Daemon: Add paragraphs whom this section is for. In-Reply-To: <8734n4788z.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Fri, 16 Aug 2024 18:17:00 +0200") References: <16e8cb82047987725668c1b493e4bde392779371.1722671885.git.pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> <8734n4788z.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:05:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87wmkgyy96.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BE8C98412E X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: ZmB8ASy79LXUJSJ5e2ZZ3EIIILnwtijdIShje0MC51J2omEeXIoEXS9P X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72439-done Cc: Maxim Cournoyer , Matthew Trzcinski , 72439-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo, I pushed all three of your reported typos: "the", Oxford comma and chroots. Pushed as follow-up commit 91cf240308def2fed3b8649f5e98891171327c78 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >> +During the installation, the @dfn{build daemon} that must be running > > s/the// (I think?) Yes, because the reader might visit ``Setting Up the Daemon'' much later than =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D installation, no definite article is better. Regards, Florian From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:21:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 11:24:09 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator