From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:09:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7241 <7241@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7241 <7241@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Possible bug on split ? Reply-To: bug#7241 <7241@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:09:06 +0000 retitle 7241 Possible bug on split ? reassign 7241 coreutils submitter 7241 Ulf Zibis severity 7241 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 18 14:04:43 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2010 18:04:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7u4g-0008W7-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:04:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7tJs-0008A0-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:16:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7tNT-0001WZ-1w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:20:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:48509) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7tNT-0001WV-0D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:20:03 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46583 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7tNS-00018s-1p for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:20:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7tNR-0001VV-4B for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:20:01 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:45310 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7tNQ-0001VA-OA for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:20:01 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Oct 2010 17:19:59 -0000 Received: from dslb-188-100-054-225.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [188.100.54.225] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 18 Oct 2010 19:19:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/XYVBI6ifXMTktvCcMoqaFauRrhgdqAxWKF0nZSX KKLWmSf6QJ7W06 Message-ID: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:19:54 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: Possible bug on split ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101018-1, 18.10.2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:04:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) With split --help I get the information on units like K, KB, M, MB etc. As split 123m and split 123MB work fine, but split 123mb doesn't, it seems, that the unit identifiers only partly work for lower-case letters. IMO this is a bug, or should be documented more explicit. What you think? -Ulf From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 18 15:50:32 2010 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2010 19:50:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7vj5-0000r3-Va for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:50:32 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7vj3-0000qw-Of for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:50:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD4139E80F8; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Ec0b8ggtY9k; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.179.64.200] (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C73AC39E80E0; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:54:12 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulf Zibis Subject: Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ? References: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On 10/18/10 10:19, Ulf Zibis wrote: > IMO this is a bug, or should be documented more explicit. I'd say fix the doc. Do you have a suggestion for improving the wording? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 19 11:05:55 2010 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2010 15:05:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8DlA-0001b4-43 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:05:55 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8DL7-0001Os-V3 for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:38:59 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Oct 2010 14:42:42 -0000 Received: from dslb-188-100-228-133.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [188.100.228.133] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 19 Oct 2010 16:42:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18KTxobKWsKW27/uUTBBfW0kqkJFnjpHRcuVOVy2z 4f1k+P3/VtYStX Message-ID: <4CBDAE61.40406@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:42:41 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ? References: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101019-0, 19.10.2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:05:50 -0400 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) In many FAQs the small letter spelling is suggested, e.g.: ntfsclone -s -o - | gzip -c | split -a 3 -b 700m - So IMO small letter writing for "MB" should be allowed, instead doc to explain, the small letters are allowed for "M", but not for "MB", seems to be difficult to communicate. -Ulf Am 18.10.2010 21:54, schrieb Paul Eggert: > On 10/18/10 10:19, Ulf Zibis wrote: >> IMO this is a bug, or should be documented more explicit. > I'd say fix the doc. Do you have a suggestion for > improving the wording? > > > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 19 15:20:24 2010 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2010 19:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8HjU-0004Bm-9R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:20:24 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8HjQ-0004Be-Rz for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:20:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9854139E80E0; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lDhkUhKvLILg; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.179.64.200] (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2156339E80F8; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CBDF054.8060608@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:24:04 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulf Zibis Subject: Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ? References: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> <4CBDAE61.40406@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4CBDAE61.40406@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On 10/19/10 07:42, Ulf Zibis wrote: > In many FAQs the small letter spelling is suggested, e.g.: > > ntfsclone -s -o - | gzip -c | split -a 3 -b 700m - > > So IMO small letter writing for "MB" should be allowed But "mb" is SI syntax for "millibit", which is a very small unit of information. Having "mb" be an alias for "megabyte" would be confusing to those used to the standard notation. (Having "mb" be an alias for "megabit", or for "millibyte", would be bad as well.) We have to support plain "m" as an alias for "MiB", because POSIX requires support for plain "m". But let's not compound POSIX's mistake by supporting even more usages that are contrary to SI. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 19 17:48:18 2010 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2010 21:48:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8K2b-0005KZ-SU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:48:18 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8K2Y-0005KP-N3 for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:48:15 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Oct 2010 21:52:00 -0000 Received: from dslb-188-100-228-133.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [188.100.228.133] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 19 Oct 2010 23:52:00 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19b/owL35ZbxuNJd/y6g1VH+c9LXCFS8vHq0az9bd CTwQ4EV+YGKTgX Message-ID: <4CBE12FE.3070500@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:51:58 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ? References: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> <4CBDAE61.40406@gmx.de> <4CBDF054.8060608@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <4CBDF054.8060608@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101019-1, 19.10.2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Am 19.10.2010 21:24, schrieb Paul Eggert: > On 10/19/10 07:42, Ulf Zibis wrote: >> In many FAQs the small letter spelling is suggested, e.g.: >> >> ntfsclone -s -o - | gzip -c | split -a 3 -b 700m - >> >> So IMO small letter writing for "MB" should be allowed > But "mb" is SI syntax for "millibit", which > is a very small unit of information. Having "mb" > be an alias for "megabyte" would be confusing > to those used to the standard notation. (Having > "mb" be an alias for "megabit", or for "millibyte", > would be bad as well.) > > We have to support plain "m" as an alias for "MiB", > because POSIX requires support for plain "m". > But let's not compound POSIX's mistake by supporting > even more usages that are contrary to SI. Ok, so the docs should be better detailed. BTW: this problem is not restricted on the split command, it concerns allmost all GNU coreutils and more, e.g. ntfsprogs. -Ulf From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 31 17:36:22 2011 Received: (at 7241-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2011 21:36:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRWbu-0003yx-B0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:36:22 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRWbs-0003yl-Oz for 7241-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 17:36:21 -0400 Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id 362FE60184; Tue, 31 May 2011 23:36:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering To: Ulf Zibis Subject: Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ? In-Reply-To: <4CBE12FE.3070500@gmx.de> (Ulf Zibis's message of "Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:51:58 +0200") References: <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4CBCA5E4.3080505@cs.ucla.edu> <4CBDAE61.40406@gmx.de> <4CBDF054.8060608@cs.ucla.edu> <4CBE12FE.3070500@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:36:15 +0200 Message-ID: <871uzeft80.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241-done Cc: Paul Eggert , 7241-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Ulf Zibis wrote: > Am 19.10.2010 21:24, schrieb Paul Eggert: >> On 10/19/10 07:42, Ulf Zibis wrote: >>> In many FAQs the small letter spelling is suggested, e.g.: >>> >>> ntfsclone -s -o - | gzip -c | split -a 3 -b 700m - >>> >>> So IMO small letter writing for "MB" should be allowed >> But "mb" is SI syntax for "millibit", which >> is a very small unit of information. Having "mb" >> be an alias for "megabyte" would be confusing >> to those used to the standard notation. (Having >> "mb" be an alias for "megabit", or for "millibyte", >> would be bad as well.) >> >> We have to support plain "m" as an alias for "MiB", >> because POSIX requires support for plain "m". >> But let's not compound POSIX's mistake by supporting >> even more usages that are contrary to SI. > > Ok, so the docs should be better detailed. > BTW: this problem is not restricted on the split command, it concerns > allmost all GNU coreutils and more, e.g. ntfsprogs. The info documentation is very specific: `-b SIZE' `--bytes=SIZE' Put SIZE bytes of INPUT into each output file. SIZE may be, or may be an integer optionally followed by, one of the following multiplicative suffixes: `b' => 512 ("blocks") `KB' => 1000 (KiloBytes) `K' => 1024 (KibiBytes) `MB' => 1000*1000 (MegaBytes) `M' => 1024*1024 (MebiBytes) `GB' => 1000*1000*1000 (GigaBytes) `G' => 1024*1024*1024 (GibiBytes) and so on for `T', `P', `E', `Z', and `Y'. However, split --help is brief (and split.1 is mechanically derived from split --help output), but that's fine, because it's more of a quick-reference and points to the info documentation. Note the last line: For complete documentation, run: info coreutils 'split invocation' We'd welcome any specific suggestions for improvement you may have. Note that while I'm closing this "issue", you're welcome to continue replying, and comments will still be archived for it and read by people on this list. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 31 18:48:55 2011 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2011 22:48:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXk6-0006Mq-PA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 18:48:54 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXk3-0006Mb-8t for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 18:48:52 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2011 22:48:44 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-076-018-074.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [88.76.18.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2011 00:48:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QcQIbm13QDciL+lRk+tRG+hKMP0aOJuaYbBg4Dp 316Bs+NIQy6s2r Message-ID: <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:48:42 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7241: closed (Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ?) References: <871uzeft80.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110531-1, 31.05.2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) You could write: `-b SIZE' `--bytes=SIZE' Put SIZE bytes of INPUT into each output file. SIZE may be, or may be an integer optionally followed by, one of the following multiplicative suffixes: `b' => 512 ("blocks") `KB' => 1000 (KiloBytes) `K' => 1024 (KibiBytes) `MB' => 1000*1000 (MegaBytes) `M','m' => 1024*1024 (MebiBytes) `GB' => 1000*1000*1000 (GigaBytes) `G' => 1024*1024*1024 (GibiBytes) and so on for `T', `P', `E', `Z', and `Y'. For split --help you could write (I only have the german version): GRÖßE kann eine der folgenden Abkürzungen sein (oder eine Zahl, die optional von einer der Abkürzungen gefolgt wird): KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M or m 1024x1024 und so weiter für G, T, P, E, Z, Y. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 31 18:56:33 2011 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2011 22:56:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXrV-0006XE-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 18:56:33 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXrS-0006X1-FH for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 18:56:31 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2011 22:56:24 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-076-018-074.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [88.76.18.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2011 00:56:24 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+/K1Mg13K/7w7g/T3bRwKi2qunEl5hkd3LrO9GyQ KK7dREdjNW74OY Message-ID: <4DE57216.907@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:56:22 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7241: closed (Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ?) References: <871uzeft80.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110531-1, 31.05.2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Correction: Am 01.06.2011 00:48, schrieb Ulf Zibis: > > For split --help you could write (I only have the german version): > > GRÖßE kann eine der folgenden Abkürzungen sein (oder eine Zahl, die optional > von einer der Abkürzungen gefolgt wird): > KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M or m 1024x1024 und so weiter für G, T, P, E, Z, Y. > KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M oder m 1024x1024 und so weiter für G, T, P, E, Z, Y. or KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M|m 1024x1024 und so weiter für G, T, P, E, Z, Y. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 01 15:30:52 2011 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2011 19:30:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRr7z-0003qz-Pj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:30:51 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRr7w-0003qc-Uz for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:30:49 -0400 Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id 5909060088; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:30:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering To: Ulf Zibis Subject: Re: bug#7241: closed (Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ?) In-Reply-To: <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> (Ulf Zibis's message of "Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:48:42 +0200") References: <871uzeft80.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:30:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87r57d8i3g.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Ulf Zibis wrote: > You could write: > > `-b SIZE' > `--bytes=3DSIZE' > Put SIZE bytes of INPUT into each output file. SIZE may be, or > may be an integer optionally followed by, one of the following > multiplicative suffixes: > `b' =3D> 512 ("blocks") > `KB' =3D> 1000 (KiloBytes) > `K' =3D> 1024 (KibiBytes) > `MB' =3D> 1000*1000 (MegaBytes) > `M','m' =3D> 1024*1024 (MebiBytes) Thanks, but I'd rather not encourage the use of "m", seeing as how it's irregular. With no documentation, we have more flexibility, if we decide to deprecated it and eventually remove support for it some day. If we document it, that's an implicit endorsement and more of a commitment. > `GB' =3D> 1000*1000*1000 (GigaBytes) > `G' =3D> 1024*1024*1024 (GibiBytes) > and so on for `T', `P', `E', `Z', and `Y'. > > > For split --help you could write (I only have the german version): > > GR=D6=DFE kann eine der folgenden Abk=FCrzungen sein (oder eine Zahl, die= optional > von einer der Abk=FCrzungen gefolgt wird): > KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M or m 1024x1024 und so weiter f=FCr G, T,= P, E, Z, Y. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 02 06:57:43 2011 Received: (at 7241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2011 10:57:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QS5aw-0001UU-Ic for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:57:42 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QS5at-0001UB-1q for 7241@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:57:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jun 2011 10:57:32 -0000 Received: from dslb-094-221-030-234.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [94.221.30.234] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 02 Jun 2011 12:57:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3615077 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+SV4c0K4KStwEFahMgKs6FP7PAUnJMvuNbIcfDKJ e4mvAEeBn8mklf Message-ID: <4DE76C9A.5070208@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:57:30 +0200 From: Ulf Zibis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Meyering Subject: Re: bug#7241: closed (Re: bug#7241: Possible bug on split ?) References: <871uzeft80.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4CBC81BA.2080800@gmx.de> <4DE5704A.3020206@gmx.de> <87r57d8i3g.fsf@rho.meyering.net> In-Reply-To: <87r57d8i3g.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110601-1, 01.06.2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7241 Cc: 7241@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Am 01.06.2011 21:30, schrieb Jim Meyering: > Ulf Zibis wrote: >> You could write: >> >> `-b SIZE' >> `--bytes=SIZE' >> Put SIZE bytes of INPUT into each output file. SIZE may be, or >> may be an integer optionally followed by, one of the following >> multiplicative suffixes: >> `b' => 512 ("blocks") >> `KB' => 1000 (KiloBytes) >> `K' => 1024 (KibiBytes) >> `MB' => 1000*1000 (MegaBytes) >> `M','m' => 1024*1024 (MebiBytes) > Thanks, but I'd rather not encourage the use of "m", seeing as how > it's irregular. With no documentation, we have more flexibility, if > we decide to deprecated it and eventually remove support for it some day. > If we document it, that's an implicit endorsement and more of a > commitment. > Maybe you could add a note: (Note: for POSIX support lower 'm' is allowed for "MiB", but is not recommended) (Note: In contradiction to SI, lower 'm' is allowed for "MiB" for POSIX support, but could become deprecated) Then user would not try other lower letters if coming from FAQ tips like: ntfsclone -s -o - | gzip -c | split -a 3 -b 700m - , ... and FAQ tip authors are aware to better use 'M'. -Ulf >> `GB' => 1000*1000*1000 (GigaBytes) >> `G' => 1024*1024*1024 (GibiBytes) >> and so on for `T', `P', `E', `Z', and `Y'. >> >> >> For split --help you could write (I only have the german version): >> >> GRÖßE kann eine der folgenden Abkürzungen sein (oder eine Zahl, die optional >> von einer der Abkürzungen gefolgt wird): >> KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000x1000, M or m 1024x1024 und so weiter für G, T, P, E, Z, Y. > > > From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:09:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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