From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:44:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7239: [PATCH] Update URL of help section on GNU website Resent-From: Tobias Quathamer Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7239 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 7239@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.128742508232741 (code B ref -1); Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:05:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2010 18:04:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7u4f-0008W1-8R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:04:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7raB-0007Jc-FG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:25:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7rdm-0003Mj-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:28:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:46535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7rdm-0003Mf-1Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:28:46 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38104 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7rdl-0004XD-3H for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:28:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7rdj-0003MQ-Ts for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:28:44 -0400 Received: from mr011.hansenet.de ([85.183.254.144]:50044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7rdj-0003M0-O3 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:28:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.6.100] (92.224.19.154) by mr011.hansenet.de (8.0.026) id 4C18955700271E78 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:28:36 +0200 From: Tobias Quathamer Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nT4Ofgi5naFg9ZmPUEy7" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:28:36 +0200 Message-ID: <1287415716.3187.23.camel@barks> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:04:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) --=-nT4Ofgi5naFg9ZmPUEy7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-Pz2/yfaa9yACf76m3H89" --=-Pz2/yfaa9yACf76m3H89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, the help section on www.gnu.org has moved. Please consider to apply the attached patch which uses the current URL. Regards, Tobias --=20 Tobias Quathamer | Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the Hamburg, Germany | same time. 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Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:11:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:11:28 +0200 From: Ralf Wildenhues Message-ID: <20101019061128.GA3593@gmx.de> Mail-Followup-To: Ralf Wildenhues , Tobias Quathamer , bug-standards@gnu.org, webmasters@gnu.org, bug-coreutils@gnu.org References: <1287415716.3187.23.camel@barks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1287415716.3187.23.camel@barks> Organization: Institute for Numerical Simulation, University of Bonn User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2010-08-04) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) [ adding bug-standards and webmasters ] Hello Tobias, * Tobias Quathamer wrote on Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:28:36PM CEST: > the help section on www.gnu.org has moved. Please consider to apply the > attached patch which uses the current URL. The right action to take for this is to complain to the web master to move the page back. The gethelp URL is documented in the Maintainer's Guide as well as in the GNU Coding Standards, and recommended to be listed in program --help output. Updating all programs will take years, and doesn't sound like a smart move to me (sorry for the pun). Alternatively, at least standards.texi and maintain.texi should be adjusted as well. Thanks, Ralf From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:44:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7239: [PATCH] Update URL of help section on GNU website Resent-From: Eric Blake Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7239 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ralf Wildenhues , Tobias Quathamer , bug-standards@gnu.org, webmasters@gnu.org, 7239@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7239-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7239.1288028059634 (code B ref 7239); Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 7239) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2010 17:34:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PAQw6-0000AA-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PAQw3-0000A2-CV; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:34:16 -0400 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9PHcGMN023944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:38:16 -0400 Received: from [10.3.113.91] (ovpn-113-91.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.91]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o9PHcFY9007734; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4CC5C087.2040607@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:38:15 -0600 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100921 Fedora/3.1.4-1.fc13 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1287415716.3187.23.camel@barks> <20101019061128.GA3593@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <20101019061128.GA3593@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-Spam-Score: -10.1 (----------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.1 (----------) tag 7239 + notabug close 7239 thanks On 10/19/2010 12:11 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > [ adding bug-standards and webmasters ] > > Hello Tobias, > > * Tobias Quathamer wrote on Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:28:36PM CEST: >> the help section on www.gnu.org has moved. Please consider to apply the >> attached patch which uses the current URL. > > The right action to take for this is to complain to the web master to > move the page back. The gethelp URL is documented in the Maintainer's > Guide as well as in the GNU Coding Standards, and recommended to be > listed in program --help output. Updating all programs will take years, > and doesn't sound like a smart move to me (sorry for the pun). It looks like coreutils (and indeed, all clients of the gnulib module version-etc) can breathe a sigh of relief that the web redirect has been setup so that http://www.gnu.org/gethelp/ again works. As such, I'm using this mail to close the coreutils bug report. I find it interesting, however, that standards.texi refers to the short URL, while maintain.texi refers to the longer http://www.gnu.org/help/gethelp.html -- Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org