From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:16:21 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#72309 <72309@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#72309 <72309@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Reply-To: bug#72309 <72309@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:16:21 +0000 retitle 72309 propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width reassign 72309 emacs submitter 72309 Heime severity 72309 normal tag 72309 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 26 15:04:36 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jul 2024 19:04:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQF1-0003G3-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:04:36 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41996) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQEz-0003Fv-JV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:04:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQEp-0008QD-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:04:24 -0400 Received: from mail-40140.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.140]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQEn-0004G2-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:04:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722020659; x=1722279859; bh=Skao9lz4+Kq/DxhK5bI/RJf7dnP7lPTYOgNmDBE1j6k=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=XSCbzlOxtm1MmCPjFQAPAMZ1SPJ3CCeniqqXoL/XICiNuHp2SmODzgx8o7SVVIv9N 5AavV8lKyKZonfNmmOYJ0IsL94ajI2zQgMj759/cpJMaoM4aaZIhlWJvWPKry56gQg IUac/uioeG4UsiPSRy6cAu2Gg9qBiXLPfXTE8GL3hDWo7F0NBU8fwGeGpW2LxKmGZC foSc9RbK2K9PTKYwrS6CnnpQWIKGgQRwHb660z9F8JpH+A+D3JoKV5R4SOGunY7lr+ qspPPdO5uqIBCUjDfRj/wGe+N3Mi7EtcWO3JbobiiEOq+gPstEkkKLaQSGukJkaDYU 2pZuqxfDIQBZQ== Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" From: Heime Subject: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 3dc3dae32a59a09a9ddc6cd3a9ff06829d2d2cc3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.140; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40140.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when using a maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indicate that the buffer name has been truncated. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 01:51:22 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 05:51:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40359 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXaKw-0005Qy-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 01:51:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59296) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXaKs-0005Qe-TN; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 01:51:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXaIX-0004uI-4T; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 01:48:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QotkNTe3QnrzaoEEvWb+FGhizicTW4lBw8KBywZ/vE4=; b=EjYe4QXz3+LC R4oqkKSEHuTY/aMShSh+HtEwFTx8M7KyC0Jo7kQ+UF/14qmCj4eDzI+w7DeFxKAwskB1HAGmVd916 Rxc1xUCp7kMyA2KscvGna+vhDlc2SliNhMnoruqrjtkH3vJpqRPSsfl8ICoV0PBB9Ml5GM/l1ewcY iR7HyM5H9flsqNKd9gvrbtdQVrUlQyNTy++oyuWhn7CpPo/Pc09ml16YiRLsE8009vjW7/fefVwGL /g0yEwiGOE7EtaRJyxVywjr9w1lY7DPQVeiZfWSu3IU+AsWD4GT0By/g0KmHtgI8wnsPFH9Yf13Go GfLHYQUsIS8piT1i9LeMEg==; Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:48:50 +0300 Message-Id: <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 72309 notabug thanks > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when using a > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indicate > that the buffer name has been truncated. Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so no ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basically infinity. Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 05:22:44 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 09:22:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXddU-0002nT-2K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 05:22:44 -0400 Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:33941) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXddR-0002mh-Um for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 05:22:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722072145; x=1722331345; bh=YNZciZxUdXnoEVFTneLHXnX4Kxswha/8JApJPJoWFVI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=sYClKYuG7sTXmEunlJUyrRW7nVOxCkjTDP5iTc5k8Npf4gvkEJKqRU7L5hlta8ENI BsvJ8+HB39fm9YS3QNeR4ZVhsX3hlHcuFFjuJ+mgQutKHtGXP63nlmNXmaXLlD0zpf EsoKiBv7m33Z8MUxXfaIaJCsF6KPy5s7QgGvirwz4xx73yCT69dvBvegooQAbosCQp Wl9cdz0EAHycWaruy0Ll2uns9DNcN3BDTlQATXqVfDxjvbQLm0XHDRziabaek/4gOv zvqwGbP3/sG/V0Z3DpxA461+9EJi0igyRuh36qMzULcQHmHy6ePqbDjCIBdXaFe2Kl mUUvgYqlKYyKg== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 2a33301cca9b44d45546914c82924e6167caa360 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Saturday, July 27th, 2024 at 5:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote= : > tags 72309 notabug > thanks >=20 > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > >=20 > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when using = a > > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indicate > > that the buffer name has been truncated. >=20 >=20 > Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so no > ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basically > infinity. >=20 > Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? There is this construct (width rest=E2=80=A6) which specifies truncation or padding of the results of rest.=20 If used on the buffer name it just truncates without specification=20 that truncation occurred. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 08:07:53 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 12:07:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXgDJ-0000c2-9T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXgDG-0000bM-Oh for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXgAv-0004xj-LM; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:05:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=sMdHJtSqVMs9YnWsFBZcQcL3xGmXjtKKn/ogwNFQMTc=; b=BxSr/DDXuZMHXeduHXOV g5htgzplOXaco/CvPDU10oZotsh1foyHiv3Lnapie+M49nbx8haCxDMldDeYKfZmFhtCMUIdUSSyj o2tUGvvsZrY/UaZBc5D+ChRQBaLJuutTkhtDSRkINUL8iQ6iuiBv3QMLuEhvDyUYxWcmnkca01sLt y8ztALUTEpMazw5r8gJ6j3SSHMsOoCtj0oczcX7n0VGz4s14pCWoYL4N9qyUR0Vd51HwOOlS8FL03 TrvzTQIwtDHlNNwv8+w1HldwyOEawWg9gEB8ER21/2j/Dpbwdx4bSpVdlzIMu7Q6Du3FoORH8rBSX wwoxboZ9LM7ryA==; Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 15:05:23 +0300 Message-Id: <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Saturday, July 27th, 2024 at 5:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > tags 72309 notabug > > thanks > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > > > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when using a > > > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indicate > > > that the buffer name has been truncated. > > > > > > Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so no > > ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basically > > infinity. > > > > Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? > > > There is this construct > > (width rest…) > > which specifies truncation or padding of the results of rest. > > If used on the buffer name it just truncates without specification > that truncation occurred. Where in the Emacs code did you see that? I cannot find anything like that in bindings.el, which is where we have the code used for displaying the buffer name on the mode line. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 08:23:44 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 12:23:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXgSd-0001E5-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:23:43 -0400 Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.138]:28087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXgSb-0001DJ-Pz for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:23:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722083004; x=1722342204; bh=Tx7Z/bTyJUV1JAZRhGrloUHaMIxdbf58G+R3q21v2uc=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=o0ocpFGEcaKl9PFlSFg0FVmXo9vwd1RIOWn1K6gDJoCFcjDuf/eTKgMQMCuIOUYs8 3TnxH7+yPe/8S30bsgMMwHUXNzN7KLks1UBXwH56Znu4LvGiIf5/qcEUjeg9YRwWA1 Gh7P2avhDj6/CMKAllSFFoPouWfpu1y/DkwpGJq8e0NTfG2uZeyM7f0edzam2cMYBV fmNBkMfWKeXjuvdgNfLJXRG2UTXwCdVEuF+W7cH0uu2YHmlAx9i+/dSqlIKH+x2SHg EY39PGnCvZRytImyfzg0jWFd2uhj9iI3XTH63+RS1SkNPnqFPkTSG2niMprld51W5m aXk470azpmbgA== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:23:20 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 5d194ed9f67443fd9c4c7406047558d11d77ccf6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 12:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > On Saturday, July 27th, 2024 at 5:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wro= te: > >=20 > > > tags 72309 notabug > > > thanks > > >=20 > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > > > > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > >=20 > > > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when us= ing a > > > > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indica= te > > > > that the buffer name has been truncated. > > >=20 > > > Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so no > > > ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basically > > > infinity. > > >=20 > > > Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? > >=20 > > There is this construct > >=20 > > (width rest=E2=80=A6) > >=20 > > which specifies truncation or padding of the results of rest. > >=20 > > If used on the buffer name it just truncates without specification > > that truncation occurred. >=20 >=20 > Where in the Emacs code did you see that? I cannot find anything like > that in bindings.el, which is where we have the code used for > displaying the buffer name on the mode line. The last entry in "24.4.2 The Data Structure of the Mode Line". I have tried it and setting a maximum width does work and the abrupt=20 truncation in the buffer name does occur. =20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 09:01:04 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 13:01:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXh2m-0002v9-8O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:01:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXh2k-0002u1-9C for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:01:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXh2U-0007ub-DQ; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:00:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=31XkeIfKjR+ZvQN2e8UvmrtaFRVS38glZByFs3zMFvo=; b=QE0JZkh7qPw73PXEJRrU QT2hLmdLPRWNVlvn7RnNtnwQxtLKnTlodAyQK5lwkgPHRZpL5GDmpaCh9fFmHBGSA3VX+keN++YPe +bUwynQYGoOPFsPE2YlmFcQbKvmj3vhqlcscHe2TI5Bp2RXaCJNfJHUgv2r0BU7jIpD/0lMToFwQt e+oHDb0/qvgYqf9DTrgQHW/k8AIGwLqLsM8pjSCmL+wbDsPzoxfeJxOK61cHoeVM1QbUW+N/AnHQF C7UQYEfJ12llGQgHkoqdZ64nnaVaOLsj8dTkvY0jsmq742rAvESbwpDDAAciNwek+PZkFSdfRAtlF jzb19uCXrc0Wlg==; Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:00:39 +0300 Message-Id: <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:23:20 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:23:20 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 12:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000 > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > On Saturday, July 27th, 2024 at 5:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: > > > > > > > tags 72309 notabug > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > > > > > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > > > > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that when using a > > > > > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to indicate > > > > > that the buffer name has been truncated. > > > > > > > > Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so no > > > > ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basically > > > > infinity. > > > > > > > > Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? > > > > > > There is this construct > > > > > > (width rest…) > > > > > > which specifies truncation or padding of the results of rest. > > > > > > If used on the buffer name it just truncates without specification > > > that truncation occurred. > > > > > > Where in the Emacs code did you see that? I cannot find anything like > > that in bindings.el, which is where we have the code used for > > displaying the buffer name on the mode line. > > The last entry in "24.4.2 The Data Structure of the Mode Line". > > I have tried it and setting a maximum width does work and the abrupt > truncation in the buffer name does occur. Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. If you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 09:08:54 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 13:08:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXhAM-0003RS-96 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:08:54 -0400 Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:20441) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXhAK-0003Qf-CD for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:08:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722085716; x=1722344916; bh=d+gBAu/oYAGgObfVUwMO++dG8IeEJV4FkeQ//I6+L2Q=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=tIx01cNFdBwU/TUY/tXP4gGh3/dZCKwynUGS1tpffvMxtquOjKuwlU8wslQ9/OD4B EfPY06Vppfm5yiPlUDEonzzntZpVavnYH+/ajn+pE/w1cQo8t5+xf/WJAPb4uvs1I3 CM7dnwEzbe8zwKPxxWrnCTsDlOAoARmI4wLSXFypp6GEp3Vi0BzLbyYHfmD+BQpa6X H+/0caJ/nywpGxdYZqGVhhmkyxmBFzR7ymr4trHkpeGuxw3qONRVwhMOQnDyCyvtkS szdE289RnveM65Kmv6Bombvety2rlzac7gxpDCA8qF0zkzFC33Zj6UT5F6mKRYM+u4 kMGJMm0p7ffyg== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: bdce168daa0ae53c41944d115573a08f63e89a50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:23:20 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > >=20 > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 12:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrot= e: > >=20 > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:22:21 +0000 > > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > >=20 > > > > On Saturday, July 27th, 2024 at 5:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org= wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > tags 72309 notabug > > > > > thanks > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:04:14 +0000 > > > > > > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > propertized-buffer-identification could be improved so that whe= n using a > > > > > > maximum width there are three dots and a space at the end to in= dicate > > > > > > that the buffer name has been truncated. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Emacs doesn't truncate the buffer name shown on the mode line, so= no > > > > > ellipsis should be needed, ever. IOW, the maximum width is basica= lly > > > > > infinity. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Where did you see the buffer name truncated on the mode line? > > > >=20 > > > > There is this construct > > > >=20 > > > > (width rest=E2=80=A6) > > > >=20 > > > > which specifies truncation or padding of the results of rest. > > > >=20 > > > > If used on the buffer name it just truncates without specification > > > > that truncation occurred. > > >=20 > > > Where in the Emacs code did you see that? I cannot find anything like > > > that in bindings.el, which is where we have the code used for > > > displaying the buffer name on the mode line. > >=20 > > The last entry in "24.4.2 The Data Structure of the Mode Line". > >=20 > > I have tried it and setting a maximum width does work and the abrupt > > truncation in the buffer name does occur. >=20 >=20 > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. If > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-string-to-wi= dth when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-identifi= cation. It is a very difficult thing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 09:30:13 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 13:30:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41104 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXhUy-0004kU-KM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:30:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57244) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXhUw-0004iZ-5n for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:30:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXhUg-0000yQ-Mz; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 09:29:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=D5Fku/vSzGdDaXvXOXvBermN+A+Zf+NSvmx1ITkomks=; b=lmFZXRytTOu/ s/APNlFv0jiqIGngB0K2c2PvBculyzCb5HDtbhJS5Yy8MUP75uPiLkwNRQAq0++hk+a9VABi64ckw c40PM3UHYM5sQvcDSPRJO/6Y2Y/LJIaQ4PG/kUj7H/2aOpnYb4yO17SOfAFv14FlWu5f14c4Tsz5X oUGTIcgKJQlsGQEFHivii3hFl0QQkJhZGGy9jzhzzNiLSr7bLtxlM+DLMI5wvV6ZjIzWa9ksXOvzr ElYKy6vbuD9O5rp25SihbBOOPpSdhu9O4WClxaWL4uZQrV/tZx1QPJKRpdTxVDtzHRTBHht6u3/o6 x+QoGUhvh9btb5FZYQlqiA==; Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:29:51 +0300 Message-Id: <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> (message from Heime on Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. If > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-string-to-width > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-identification. Use :eval. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 10:56:45 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 14:56:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42112 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXiqi-0000yo-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:56:45 -0400 Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]:38243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXiqg-0000xw-3s for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:56:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722092184; x=1722351384; bh=itOMUG4HWI8tCv1cyX5gs3V+2MEugOjM3r3Gj2tHe3Y=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=cKSKULcRuLJVfLWBnyg2BSKW7r31sJze4qrnHDjHYnN5H0bCT2KDW2k44AV77CBp2 zNmE7O7emmZvIIo8dCiN9xzLn73FsBAfSXcNNy7B/6dBzhIHIgczOx9EhfCYTwh+4i fEVs3QURSlEDftilHoivehy+nGVON/hQNCSU6P+TY5uPU4DCS32nCxz2sUiIpYbmaH raTxpfLXT50k9G+ajahcRHc2k1IfDQcHoUszF/acr/dYfXNWp7GmofGPQu8Y5YlaVG 1/ZSt/8PNQGBeirfFQMCKlY/0IiNX4K6tELXny/wx842ki16zMWCGKfIQcuPqt6orB rzA4DJoRMdL2A== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 14:56:21 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 99c1db3191cc4ffc91396803c17af5ab04848aaa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote= : > >=20 > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. If > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. > >=20 > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-string-t= o-width > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-iden= tification. >=20 >=20 > Use :eval. I have done it without success (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) (vodil-rtgbfn 8) (setq-default mode-line-format '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identificatio= n 13)) vodil-panelit-bfselec)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 11:27:42 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 15:27:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXjKf-0002YR-KY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:27:42 -0400 Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:42051) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXjKd-0002Xb-NC for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:27:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722094043; x=1722353243; bh=7PFrHGZXtoFCzqqerKoBBEiAPCQqPb08yYO6VeIRrbw=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=A0mIwhpxqQMzKyBWccqOkO4UKuZvxzUzT8DnahZdiH7hd/HLW1v/9RbbPol0cL/5d 2fsBUPtwa2v3762tfXkCXWhSLw/uW+3xW8oUKtakwZOUl2fiDSr6bWoVkdvb/zYTfx 0tZKnomOxXZwxMaMfGYSIC3Kui4BcZgpTsQBMzUuuAug0RyQhdXUHquZ5oZyvkuH16 sUKxeD/WVxHC9vZBkTXlKHU5jbc2yr9TP95urc9qr8Pc2eRRTQZoJuQ+XO3lAWclnk G+EO3ePqtPKg5Dyw9RILXVTB9ClmRjgSKg6QQh3EkrRnyUHmDD/ilnHyoVti6pOsIG eET+S7OqcN5bw== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 15:27:17 +0000 To: Heime From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 20717d00c85f68642491ac073099deac3c4dafbc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 2:56 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs= , the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: >=20 > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > >=20 > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wro= te: > > >=20 > > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long > > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't > > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. I= f > > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width > > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. > > >=20 > > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-string= -to-width > > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-id= entification. > >=20 > > Use :eval. >=20 >=20 > I have done it without success >=20 > (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) >=20 > (vodil-rtgbfn 8) >=20 > (setq-default mode-line-format > '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identification = 13)) > vodil-panelit-bfselec)) Have now done, but now the buffer name is not displayed. Why has there to be so much torture to change the defaults ! =20 (defun vodil-tkbfn-ellipses (wmax) "Get the buffer name truncated to WMAX width with ellipsis." (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") bfname))) (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) (defun vodil-tkbfn (wmax) "Set mode-line-buffer-identification with WMAX maximum width." (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification '(:eval (vodil-tkbfn-ellipses wmax)))) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 16:49:28 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2024 20:49:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXoM4-0007OW-B0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:49:28 -0400 Received: from mail-43167.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.167]:45897) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXoM2-0007OJ-9K for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:49:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722113349; x=1722372549; bh=SCBuK2kfjIRE6leju8XLoNpQ1tsaMQeEVaq37mQDqCM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=LwWGQ0nzBoTIMED1NJcpZILOJPtQEZMXR63BP0Fe5eTLclAnGiYz+uvVnK0+xkl1Y b/m+F2724o/ymcFap5T6wDnTgupFobfraR3shq9w8B8KwI76kOKeSQTDyWsJSoawYT kdGJO1Z27a5IhBHlfdgCtz5kjRZbamq1someYjE3srhkDUahcGE/Ufpy8Fvzr/ZYsV e/vgKgWVWrfx1dF2cZSZznr4asfhpyC6YxtWkMrJT0PylTIoOTQijPATzn02TB1Q6s Tdge0rKccKQ/3MwZ16VXwtbRWkyJjdcDEC+kgEKoOW1ze2vrkcDc0vbMJPnucLtAJg 8jrFwVItatQ1g== Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 20:49:05 +0000 To: Heime From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: fbcd7ba1b1981ff4b0ed9af1764aec71afc1cd14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 3:27 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs= , the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >=20 > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 2:56 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Ema= cs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: >=20 > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > >=20 > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote= : > >=20 > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > >=20 > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org w= rote: > > > >=20 > > > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating lo= ng > > > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn= 't > > > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose.= If > > > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-widt= h > > > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end= . > > > >=20 > > > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-stri= ng-to-width > > > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-= identification. > > >=20 > > > Use :eval. > >=20 > > I have done it without success > >=20 > > (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) > >=20 > > (vodil-rtgbfn 8) > >=20 > > (setq-default mode-line-format > > '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identificatio= n 13)) > > vodil-panelit-bfselec)) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Have now done, but now the buffer name is not displayed. Why has there > to be so much torture to change the defaults ! >=20 > (defun vodil-tkbfn-ellipses (wmax) > "Get the buffer name truncated to WMAX width with ellipsis." >=20 > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) >=20 > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > bfname))) > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) >=20 >=20 > (defun vodil-tkbfn (wmax) > "Set mode-line-buffer-identification with WMAX maximum width." >=20 > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > '(:eval (vodil-tkbfn-ellipses wmax)))) >=20 What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer name with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? Can there be some additional commands to make this possibility less cumbersome. For instance, an option that gives mode-line-buffer-identifica= tion with truncation ellipses.=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 00:56:08 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 04:56:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXvx2-0004AQ-BN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 00:56:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXvx0-00049u-Cm for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 00:56:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sXvwg-0005sR-Ls; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 00:55:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=grEWIi39AC5H7+akTVUErUvXYS+OukneEwNyvjfElNE=; b=EpQMyjCpM9qY mhJFuN2fxHt/Hf2WUR0JjO+pbneWkL8zSYDj+ldwbapvMVLGjJ94/YolP3Vj+eB1x89L2AHtcinH6 iASO0IcS3ZT0h8CqDPTsxmjLvJq39RXFmvr9xZENI6BjGWBxEI+E5ppuB4D8qw57hMxf+yDEE7Xim 7VTFTyEpcP40uPZ9GNO0d4Q1ZBr1oJO7dCWG0zbLD4dPT/tq218mzM99dbDNEj2+NlkzS3X25ehSA MuBpwyeMgmw5hJokKL8Wcw9wuKurZWJ0y8UFGFFv3HGm0/9YFdUZE9FflWwBwbOrddusENhFPE8LS DljxQqXsz9jhMR9aBPANow==; Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:55:43 +0300 Message-Id: <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sat, 27 Jul 2024 20:49:05 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86jzh72xml.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80r11mk.fsf@gnu.org> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 20:49:05 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 3:27 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 2:56 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncating long > > > > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" doesn't > > > > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purpose. If > > > > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-width > > > > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the end. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-string-to-width > > > > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buffer-identification. > > > > > > > > Use :eval. > > > > > > I have done it without success > > > > > > (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) > > > > > > (vodil-rtgbfn 8) > > > > > > (setq-default mode-line-format > > > '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identification 13)) > > > vodil-panelit-bfselec)) > > > > > > > > Have now done, but now the buffer name is not displayed. Why has there > > to be so much torture to change the defaults ! > > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn-ellipses (wmax) > > "Get the buffer name truncated to WMAX width with ellipsis." > > > > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) > > > > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > > bfname))) > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) > > > > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn (wmax) > > "Set mode-line-buffer-identification with WMAX maximum width." > > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > '(:eval (vodil-tkbfn-ellipses wmax)))) > > > > What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer name > with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? We don't have people here whose job is to write code for others. This is a volunteer-based project, where people help you with ideas, but the actual job of writing and debugging the code is yours. So please take the ideas, read the documentation, and work on the implementation you want. If you have questions about the implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where user-level help should be sought. > Can there be some additional commands to make this possibility less > cumbersome. For instance, an option that gives mode-line-buffer-identification > with truncation ellipses. No. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 06:55:58 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 10:55:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY1ZF-0004yx-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:55:58 -0400 Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:60461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY1ZB-0004yg-UM for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:55:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722164136; x=1722423336; bh=+jR1yhh00m4F0Wp68+Z3XE8jmfXXYeTWj2DB4mmDWx0=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=MXZfZB8PvlTX/UIq9m6BW5xLOMjivy4Ywp96+tbv/n4ZJJUzUSLYZ+oNImxktZbEn RFWSqJyfbo+lF/+gOONgDlotdHzpX3EmagrJ14I/2LnARUZRvC+G97mr5hvSw+vd41 +zuhKZKFAWKokZK4OPSc0zKc1ulI17XGZe2mUqNxwPlZ79eY+BKEUeD1X69+So50Rw niFNH13sg4qSqhP+Uowo6NNtyqlS4szdQ3XehnVJLGzUbh+5qqIFua0eX8WcCnnSIC XxJOgqw9On5FsedaqInplvembFw4oBAlQCMbtHcbxUzx433DKFXT+F1u9QXZaM6e1r Swtvr0IfCkjWg== Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:55:31 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: da0e9ae16dc68cfb331414ca921f18136e1ecc62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 4:55 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 20:49:05 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org > >=20 > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 3:27 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU E= macs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > >=20 > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > >=20 > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 2:56 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU= Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > >=20 > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org w= rote: > > > >=20 > > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > > > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.o= rg wrote: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncatin= g long > > > > > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something" d= oesn't > > > > > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong purp= ose. If > > > > > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-to-= width > > > > > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at the= end. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncate-= string-to-width > > > > > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-buf= fer-identification. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Use :eval. > > > >=20 > > > > I have done it without success > > > >=20 > > > > (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) > > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) > > > >=20 > > > > (vodil-rtgbfn 8) > > > >=20 > > > > (setq-default mode-line-format > > > > '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identific= ation 13)) > > > > vodil-panelit-bfselec)) > > >=20 > > > Have now done, but now the buffer name is not displayed. Why has ther= e > > > to be so much torture to change the defaults ! > > >=20 > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn-ellipses (wmax) > > > "Get the buffer name truncated to WMAX width with ellipsis." > > >=20 > > > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > > > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) > > >=20 > > > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > > > bfname))) > > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) > > >=20 > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn (wmax) > > > "Set mode-line-buffer-identification with WMAX maximum width." > > >=20 > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > > '(:eval (vodil-tkbfn-ellipses wmax)))) > >=20 > > What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer name > > with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? >=20 >=20 > We don't have people here whose job is to write code for others. This > is a volunteer-based project, where people help you with ideas, but > the actual job of writing and debugging the code is yours. >=20 > So please take the ideas, read the documentation, and work on the > implementation you want. If you have questions about the > implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where > user-level help should be sought. Could there be a bug. I have tried the various ideas and suggestions and they did not work as others thought they would. One implementation that worked (using (width rest)) got a lot of gripe and was turned down. Se I am back to where I have started. =20 > > Can there be some additional commands to make this possibility less > > cumbersome. For instance, an option that gives mode-line-buffer-identif= ication > > with truncation ellipses. >=20 > No. And people with small screen, what do they do ? With all the minor modes d= isplaying in the modeline, it becomes unusable (meaning that its contents goes beyond= the window). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 08:18:58 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 12:18:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY2ra-00072o-06 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:18:58 -0400 Received: from mail-40135.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.135]:56003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY2rY-00072X-2S for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:18:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722169117; x=1722428317; bh=2/K4pGL6/yetXBTJzQ7XKWC87wTKaKA1eC0sYgO912o=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=T1QiW6FKxM5NkO4WMoOp3++W7yDaEyRKnnfDvq/12XMykSHGsvEPc6oytIpMvC4uF ch8uV/kEA6Y1pr32Gn9qhbtgZKvbrKYvsrWLPcQvfOMntnh2UuHtyCmsnjZJAvfCtK vz+v5KO2gxmDeK7xcvFZa7NANXgABO3sTKhQIaeKUrq2H32YFSiThx384qlAjTjgjX xWVJ1r/AlxL1IeMN4H+Iy6vR80zSs7l2vy5KQctc/1GTe46F18iQ4XxRdgAdJa8+tK Gfn4o3XIbsdWsGKgIk6+2GTsXS86OPqZNL+u6yDm4pD58uDu+g2wCvsixsplE737Uk dXV0qsFeyrXWw== Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:18:32 +0000 To: Heime From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 3ad7f22bf55794cde96fd3700f1155d07b65610e MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 10:55 PM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emac= s, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 4:55 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: >=20 > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 20:49:05 +0000 > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org > > >=20 > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 3:27 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for GNU= Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > >=20 > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 2:56 AM, Heime via "Bug reports for G= NU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org wrote= : > > > >=20 > > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org= wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 13:08:31 +0000 > > > > > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > > > > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 28th, 2024 at 1:00 AM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu= .org wrote: > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Yes, but the (WIDTH something) construct is not for truncat= ing long > > > > > > > > names, it's for ensuring the string produced by "something"= doesn't > > > > > > > > take too many columns. So you are using this for a wrong pu= rpose. If > > > > > > > > you want to truncate a buffer's name, use truncate-string-t= o-width > > > > > > > > instead, which is also capable of showing the ellipsis at t= he end. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > I do not know how to access the buffer name and apply truncat= e-string-to-width > > > > > > > when setting mode-line-buffer-identification on propertized-b= uffer-identification. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Use :eval. > > > > >=20 > > > > > I have done it without success > > > > >=20 > > > > > (defun vodil-rtgbfn (wmin) > > > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > > > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %%%db " wmin)))) > > > > >=20 > > > > > (vodil-rtgbfn 8) > > > > >=20 > > > > > (setq-default mode-line-format > > > > > '( "%e" (:eval (truncate-string-to-width mode-line-buffer-identif= ication 13)) > > > > > vodil-panelit-bfselec)) > > > >=20 > > > > Have now done, but now the buffer name is not displayed. Why has th= ere > > > > to be so much torture to change the defaults ! > > > >=20 > > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn-ellipses (wmax) > > > > "Get the buffer name truncated to WMAX width with ellipsis." > > > >=20 > > > > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > > > > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) > > > >=20 > > > > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > > > > bfname))) > > > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) > > > >=20 > > > > (defun vodil-tkbfn (wmax) > > > > "Set mode-line-buffer-identification with WMAX maximum width." > > > >=20 > > > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > > > '(:eval (vodil-tkbfn-ellipses wmax)))) > > >=20 > > > What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer name > > > with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? > >=20 > > We don't have people here whose job is to write code for others. This > > is a volunteer-based project, where people help you with ideas, but > > the actual job of writing and debugging the code is yours. > >=20 > > So please take the ideas, read the documentation, and work on the > > implementation you want. If you have questions about the > > implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where > > user-level help should be sought. =20 The implementations do not work. =20 For instance, using=20 (name (buffer-name)) or with=20 (buffer-name (window-buffer)) See (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " (let ( (name (buffer-name)) ) (if (> (length name) wmax) (concat (substring name 0 (- wmax 3)) "...") name))))) ) And neither does this (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") bfname))) (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) So there is no option other than using %b, where one has no control about how it gets displayed.=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 08:31:52 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 12:31:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY343-0007Pg-Vv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:31:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY342-0007PT-T3 for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:31:51 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY31g-0007wC-Jt; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:29:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ZaoUM7ScGm2xDBcExQHxu7Hocigi9p8K+8OJSGjcnFY=; b=ZJrLrHW223uJhqT/YtPQ Z2CVlxe4m6nkhwQoTunDm4yx9M9aFthMplTEYS3IZBRAZct/KGMqMI+d6PFyqFLE5SON/rqiUg0wu boZKXlmjxQNcfnYnYqA/p5K75sAmI4wM7y3+1vcQHFD6aa3cSBlWCP27ixJUavfJXKt185KSBciww jrg7HiXglWXJ0jELWnZeWux4jfvrE3ud5+iLwUoezSqgISRGb1CpJq/fbX9iO7YrsJWsT0RMliCf1 JNqyvA6RJjT37TWIEuvbVSbZnLtCfY2yYxgwmwBVEXWbsdnxqJRr03Mu/L9eBWCbBcEs0i0fJ2JiO LhE8MFzK9zA8qQ==; Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:29:21 +0300 Message-Id: <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:18:32 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86plqz0z2g.fsf@gnu.org> <4NGOfJklhGgHco35Z3hgQLAbDA27v3FQW-VrjVbIMZ19Giduj_FYccq70KrUy7HlB2FgttLYBhiUJHL32RFS73-Ex6XnFwoaQqpdfQcn7_8=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:18:32 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer name > > > > with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? > > > > > > We don't have people here whose job is to write code for others. This > > > is a volunteer-based project, where people help you with ideas, but > > > the actual job of writing and debugging the code is yours. > > > > > > So please take the ideas, read the documentation, and work on the > > > implementation you want. If you have questions about the > > > implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where > > > user-level help should be sought. > > The implementations do not work. > > For instance, using > > (name (buffer-name)) > > or with > > (buffer-name (window-buffer)) > > See > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > (propertized-buffer-identification > (format " %s " > (let ( (name (buffer-name)) ) > (if (> (length name) wmax) > (concat (substring name 0 (- wmax 3)) "...") > name))))) ) > > And neither does this > > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > bfname))) > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) > > So there is no option other than using %b, where one has no control about > how it gets displayed. Your conclusions are wrong. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 08:51:33 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 12:51:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY3N6-0007t4-Kc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:51:33 -0400 Received: from mail-43167.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.167]:22223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY3N4-0007sq-Cl for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 08:51:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722171072; x=1722430272; bh=lOpV2xy0BIOOUsohWHjLS8quPfj2DaRV0c3nUIjxA9k=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=AVIDXE9sNRVSVpP6B4dBNA5P2jnzGGNzGPs8IRHCpWWxq7wc0rQ1+YuNdBHZQLtD1 V+WWFVlBUKbFhlgpaI+Pb328uf8ayxVIHidMhDI+Vgf1FBh0tYMRwH2lY2kAKExtuz z4n9NyIN0X7Ax+mIYfQd/Dzh11d/D2FrXTeO0W5qA2qT6RRzyhrZQ7XIz77D3thM37 rzhsoPN9zdx2A1/V5ns9eZFkayA47uGZ/iyy+xI3FVHtShXJ+o+RZ+R0Rfu2DCVkqh wYg/taQtBolDR7zXK9R8WnpGFxd5ZdbAakYGWvjDMPj6n1m4yuIstxvv1/wauob8ZI t5Ya4HYmRKtAQ== Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:51:06 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 8eda25ee8620e7f68da2f5349d10cad1c687df79 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, July 29th, 2024 at 12:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:18:32 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org, 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > > > > What is the big problem of showing how to implement this, buffer = name > > > > > with truncation ellipses using mode-line-buffer-identification ? > > > >=20 > > > > We don't have people here whose job is to write code for others. Th= is > > > > is a volunteer-based project, where people help you with ideas, but > > > > the actual job of writing and debugging the code is yours. > > > >=20 > > > > So please take the ideas, read the documentation, and work on the > > > > implementation you want. If you have questions about the > > > > implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where > > > > user-level help should be sought. > >=20 > > The implementations do not work. > >=20 > > For instance, using > >=20 > > (name (buffer-name)) > >=20 > > or with > >=20 > > (buffer-name (window-buffer)) > >=20 > > See > >=20 > > (setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification > > (propertized-buffer-identification > > (format " %s " > > (let ( (name (buffer-name)) ) > > (if (> (length name) wmax) > > (concat (substring name 0 (- wmax 3)) "...") > > name))))) ) > >=20 > > And neither does this > >=20 > > (let* ( (bfname (buffer-name (window-buffer))) > > (tkname (if (> (length bfname) wmax) > > (truncate-string-to-width bfname wmax nil nil "...") > > bfname))) > > (propertized-buffer-identification (format " %s " tkname)))) > >=20 > > So there is no option other than using %b, where one has no control abo= ut > > how it gets displayed. >=20 >=20 > Your conclusions are wrong. If I put a question on emacs help, would you answer it in a way that gets things to work ? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 10:08:28 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 14:08:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4ZX-0001ng-Uo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:08:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4ZV-0001nS-Tt for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:08:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4ZE-0007fa-KI; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:08:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=LSx3QmYsU1BpvShrxSEIr2LxZsu5gy9S5L8MYoQ+wns=; b=KvO2LV04ftjQ mLv1nxVOX0+u6Z1ZSp5IuWM07RAuGtwQrgD7VlAUXSqnxmHcX1+1JZ2i/+7VenpsYB85vInzEzKeH vx4p+H1myPSNei5+3miB5m2+rtZthzp80rLOyIs2/QW/7x4JZ4zMLHGbWDB5x0JdiFJdZoeFOs4J9 Oz/BNHcov1sI0qNfnwQ5ibVNeOcKdtm1b6Dp+hadekgffYyK47CYfmX0QLl7IUkdDMMgLKg80Fyrt LebBMwB597D4fA/TioX1kcg4HBQryC+pnYTIhCbRNaWSJyGgZ8KlBb58Y3fkpfiPetmChAp9AeffE luruUI8bBjfOl0A/4V+HUA==; Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:07:33 +0300 Message-Id: <86zfq1zk2i.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:51:06 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86o76j0xps.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:51:06 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > So there is no option other than using %b, where one has no control about > > > how it gets displayed. > > > > > > Your conclusions are wrong. > > If I put a question on emacs help, would you answer it in > a way that gets things to work ? Not me, I don't have time for this, sorry. But I hope someone else will. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 10:19:53 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 14:19:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4kb-00025L-95 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:19:53 -0400 Received: from mail-43166.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.166]:22417) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4kZ-000258-V2 for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:19:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722176374; x=1722435574; bh=CRgptaf48+NAPLCmRznk6+IUVPmcK7aeio01YJRnvYU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=w9q4HvKqP0daz3MSm3w3C51vB2QkggYbacUzWLo0rRT54p6chVaAFxRc+/ZOi17UW TJwRrvP0mC49zMhKD3aqRzjSfkohTqkKBt1HAwdhbzueuwo4u73HRNp3L5egqG+ewJ kAi4TVDsmxETU/cB0SzzVCxbVfGB9Yb2iR6WJzddg4xw7C48GbX0dCA+BuERN7Hxoi BmFcP4jPAwriEpO17v46auQx73vwq4XdvGumTT4s8F1PHB8fMbChMUK53suYrPVQzP QccBsNeY1T0p2TZEnIQFuyMFoL/58SG/bhABi6QoSKYol24Oen/ngVAxQ/oR0NqgQ/ sWJHKd/xLCxbQ== Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:19:30 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86zfq1zk2i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfq1zk2i.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 798de0800a9c7d17da21ee0d5659e9b498c5bebd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, July 29th, 2024 at 2:07 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:51:06 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > > > So there is no option other than using %b, where one has no control= about > > > > how it gets displayed. > > >=20 > > > Your conclusions are wrong. > >=20 > > If I put a question on emacs help, would you answer it in > > a way that gets things to work ? >=20 >=20 > Not me, I don't have time for this, sorry. But I hope someone else > will. Then all that discussion with me was a waste of your time. Saying I am wrong but not sharing what you have in mind is a bad strategy. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 10:32:51 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 14:32:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4x8-0002R3-VV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:32:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39538) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4x6-0002Qq-JV for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:32:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sY4wp-0003O9-Ql; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:32:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7dV0vaAAP/dYx1wGItolSuxYmcbFvh/VY8IsrqkM/c8=; b=AuPA2ENHdIIK w0gfsDvFRq3EYf6AGKOzbqNB5og6TusSkd9QFasidWxVbtoJb0jKqM8+nHMa2lQa97UDu16a9Rm7g HtLEWJ2JlWtQ9djW50GF2KCU9Xf1riiATTJPKCXm2pnONGvdeHsv1TZs/sU30xNHp5X95qd6abGo1 FNm4ZyNM7NXMnuB1vV6R6dx/Vdco/9ELzJr2izqm8daNK3MbewOYztf6HZfufSCOIC6gpBKkSr8Gp sMu2Ll54Blbp2ewh8vv3STLU+jJ2PpA/T6acSA/fSukPPdPmwbBbxqduDa+7Zq8EaTZAs+MWwsdKo F8MIxHyYj99r9NXLZnntTA==; Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 17:32:27 +0300 Message-Id: <86v80pzix0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Heime In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:19:30 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfq1zk2i.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:19:30 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > Your conclusions are wrong. > > > > > > If I put a question on emacs help, would you answer it in > > > a way that gets things to work ? > > > > > > Not me, I don't have time for this, sorry. But I hope someone else > > will. > > Then all that discussion with me was a waste of your time. Saying > I am wrong but not sharing what you have in mind is a bad strategy. I said much more than that in this discussion. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 28 10:40:31 2024 Received: (at 72309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2024 14:40:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY54Z-0002cp-B7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:40:31 -0400 Received: from mail-40130.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.130]:35701) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sY54V-0002cO-PV for 72309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:40:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1722177609; x=1722436809; bh=ixWAqrkRtBP3RTPPdYnEtuaxK5cN9xIL77/g4Bl/tQ4=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=QvCgS34x4gy5YgMeEg5WeNO+D3yFCH9t/aH4r5IlR4e6ipapHy0eS3uVCIGPBL2tN Rdn3JcXazqVcQoKFCWCKbnfSu99bbrldMvxI0/jZtGAdQ9bzglau1uHOvdoAf7RVJl L8iGuDEACbRrFzGtGjEbRZ6YBH1+BWgx0LbCERN8NPrtowIgHcK0Gl0+tWA+PYeeg8 D2ErCw6lt/K+62r6vaS1e/zjCaeKIdjWPN4pyoUAg6lJBzsvHRyCj0TT4r0NoTIoI0 fJFEztDW571lXF/sqYr2f4QQ5xiIqEhz1xgeHRwzKnSRcVxOBY7NwRxQ3uWL+A/qpI FN74zBuO7cSiw== Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:40:06 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii From: Heime Subject: Re: bug#72309: propertized-buffer-identification with maximum width Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86v80pzix0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8eYtcka1bg4aOfbQVrzRShsG1EtNIu1JLO9XlRoQXZ4Q7yqojew5kxXcml4s-JdvwA7hgEdo_0-YEQf0zknb2wq9aS_-rgwEZB0ZT9y6QWM=@protonmail.com> <86bk2i15f4.fsf@gnu.org> <861q3d1yzi.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfq1zk2i.fsf@gnu.org> <86v80pzix0.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 71d3ca6ab71c66f3432d86eeea57b15dfc9ee8f7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72309 Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Monday, July 29th, 2024 at 2:32 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:19:30 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 72309@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > > > > Your conclusions are wrong. > > > >=20 > > > > If I put a question on emacs help, would you answer it in > > > > a way that gets things to work ? > > >=20 > > > Not me, I don't have time for this, sorry. But I hope someone else > > > will. > >=20 > > Then all that discussion with me was a waste of your time. Saying > > I am wrong but not sharing what you have in mind is a bad strategy. >=20 >=20 > I said much more than that in this discussion. For a bug report, perhaps you did. Will see that emacs-help will get me, although I have done that for a number of days now. And all suggestions led nowhere. So the bug-report. 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If you have questions about the > implementation, please ask them on help-gnu-emacs, which is where > user-level help should be sought. This seems to be a support request and not a bug, so I'm closing this bug now. From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:16:21 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator