From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 24 12:16:30 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2024 16:16:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34345 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sWefG-00043m-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:16:30 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sWefB-00043b-PI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:16:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWef4-0007zO-Rl for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:16:18 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sWef2-0006Ci-8n for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:16:18 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD05D24002B for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:16:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1721837769; bh=Vyly+4g1ePEN2CQZ7Gh/PVq46BXh+ysLj067wZVt24o=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:From:Subject:To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=mlR5LgcIWZPzi8IHcn/dLhNIwV5puInThZyqlRPzoNvH+Bbbknisdo+x5ZBLMUyKk J8wCFgt1A8tbc4YxzSv0sW5itLWnjgLy4tJKPo+7yYafad9J49FI0dnTxaznGx5ahR eeEvPLnysowz1GQ+Sk4c49kF0xotmh2o0lq4a0pVbZHVfdQszWaY3Pc5zYs5TcxJL6 Nrq0pE1fEX/eRAEMWKBLHCV66LRBAXVi7n3vjcKDhr/kwDdxvO3Zls0jOzWw31gw9d B0F6p2nMYH40DjIM054rUcZ2PzmE1D8E1woSB0tn8piT/yKrVCuqzRNh16VwOk0kC5 /0iRARd/IkaIw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WTfJn3TLCz9rxB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:16:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 16:16:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dariqq Subject: home-shepherd is flooding tty To: bug-guix@gnu.org Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=dariqq@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi, Today I connected to my laptop running guix home over ssh as the first session and got greeted with a lot of shepherd logs from the on-first-login script from guix-home starting the user shepherd: Starting service root... Service root started. Service root running with value #t. Service root has been started. WARNING: Use of `load' in declarative module (#{ g107}#). Add #:declarative? #f to your define-module invocation. Daemonizing... Some deprecated features have been used. Set the environment variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the program to get more information. Set it to "no" to suppress this message. Restarting signal handler. Now running as process 2026. Starting services... Configuration successfully loaded from '/gnu/store/004jm8s9km3j70gh4nhw8fzlbjls5wxa-shepherd.conf'. Starting service dbus... Service dbus has been started. Service dbus started. Service dbus running with value 2027. [...] Successfully started 4 services in the background. As I don't want to see these messages I have patched the add-shell-profile-file procedure in gnu/home/services/shells.scm to send the output of the on-first-login-script into the void as a workaround. The shepherd manual mentions a --quit option (there seems to be also --silent but not documented). Looking at the shepherd code though these don't seem to do anything which is also not mentioned anywhere causing even more confusion. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 16 09:24:19 2024 Received: (at 72277) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2024 13:24:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51286 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqBiF-0007gd-3c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:24:19 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:42017) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqBiC-0007g7-0G for 72277@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:24:17 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBA9B240027 for <72277@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:23:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1726493035; bh=0IeRf4HNbbSeKg3ApjosP3UWMbgsQjjaMO303LkDKxM=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:From:To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=beSGHzIE5dANmWLHGTNr4T9QVzU6dZyRDEt65pWEFcWMV7yyDt+RK0iS+Jbo5TmrJ wKQ5iCHmdiCIwM6/JK6DwgF/Ghs4ZNlXytSf+3uQZsSP93WUTmqLCfg21yFNcCz2LN Y+5tlyDzvZQ/iHK209ok6F40sGP4/oFbstiXF50lEy+WBnH+jlqw9R8roJRH5jR53h /Z1Mc48uqL92nn9JEqlurb1Qp3NCAyorQS/wVlTP9WDzj6EF+spbv+oDnCFy1557WO OjhNr12NWRhkID+2A7uxKNnr+KYV7fO7YfWB9vwJDZaFqn0DgNjjXmBOWZflVL+VOg 3/7HA6m526pNQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4X6lx54wH9z9rxD for <72277@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:23:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <65ff85e1-644a-4f8d-9c46-25d6e98b569d@posteo.net> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:23:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: home-shepherd is flooding tty From: Dariqq To: 72277@debbugs.gnu.org References: Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72277 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 24.07.24 18:16, Dariqq wrote: > Hi, > > Today I connected to my laptop running guix home over ssh as the first > session and got greeted with a lot of shepherd logs from the on-first- > login script from guix-home starting the user shepherd: > > > > Starting service root... > Service root started. > Service root running with value #t. > Service root has been started. > WARNING: Use of `load' in declarative module (#{ g107}#).  Add > #:declarative? #f to your define-module invocation. > Daemonizing... > > Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment > variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the > program to get more information.  Set it to "no" to suppress > this message. > Restarting signal handler. > Now running as process 2026. > Starting services... > Configuration successfully loaded from '/gnu/ > store/004jm8s9km3j70gh4nhw8fzlbjls5wxa-shepherd.conf'. > Starting service dbus... > Service dbus has been started. > Service dbus started. > Service dbus running with value 2027. > [...] > Successfully started 4 services in the background. > > > The guile deprecation warning seems to be coming from using the deprecated way of daemonizing the shepherd. This has been fixed in https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=8da4eab2447a52c1d4f79305756cfab4df45a1a7 > As I don't want to see these messages I have patched the add-shell- > profile-file procedure in gnu/home/services/shells.scm to send the > output of the on-first-login-script into the void as a workaround. > > The shepherd manual mentions a --quit option (there seems to be also -- > silent but not documented). Looking at the shepherd code though these > don't seem to do anything which is also not mentioned anywhere causing > even more confusion. The devel shepherd now understands --silent (and --quiet): https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/shepherd.git/commit/?h=devel&id=6ffe404ffe794b06fddd304a963a47b62444edfa When running the shepherd@0.15 with a backported version of the above commmit and --silent all that is left is the warning > WARNING: Use of `load' in declarative module (#{ g107}#). Add > #:declarative? #f to your define-module invocation. and when using the devel shepherd this is also gone and shepherd is completely silent. It would be nice to add an option to home-shepherd-configuration to autolaunch the shepherd with --silent once it is available in a tagged release. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 19 09:10:34 2024 Received: (at 72277) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2024 13:10:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srGva-0006C9-6I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:10:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60410) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1srGvX-00069C-RX for 72277@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:10:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srGv9-0000sg-OF; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:10:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=xBYzp4nHoOoFnV08ohQGaXzjntlZmdY+jq18qtcIz4o=; b=DoKszQRv3jV8Q31VnKRh ffRhJzZNVppqe8wtACZvHHCWheBUNgNh3JPaLB0KO57LmpwGR8x9OUPpwPMCa3XpvlxKCoL2w6Xco /Y3m2KfenKTJ5S3bChu8sAzUeb/n4O9Rmyqw15ff+dL3ILuAHtrxZK13O5lWZgpafblWIOcKdhHx8 VQQoIKKBuhuG46NcAw0xokjKeW6xRdBqkQifAWE/uWcX8HcAaUJYg/tvKJOYtscDkOTuGuPVEQLoI q1j9VhaVdh4YIt0PQEvhNxWN0jRbbjJ5JDJmCZaQKI9IJSxoHPhOlSbLdlVqoEHvLx7gDgdG9c9n6 b9o9j4iewlTSBA==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Dariqq Subject: Re: bug#72277: home-shepherd is flooding tty In-Reply-To: <65ff85e1-644a-4f8d-9c46-25d6e98b569d@posteo.net> (dariqq@posteo.net's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:23:48 +0000") References: <65ff85e1-644a-4f8d-9c46-25d6e98b569d@posteo.net> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:10:06 +0200 Message-ID: <871q1f7psh.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72277 Cc: 72277@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, Dariqq skribis: > It would be nice to add an option to home-shepherd-configuration to > autolaunch the shepherd with --silent once it is available in a tagged > release. I believe we can make this change right away since 0.10.x supports =E2=80=98--silent=E2=80=99 (it doesn=E2=80=99t have any effect as of 0.10.5= but it=E2=80=99s not rejected). Would you like to prepare a patch? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 14 13:41:12 2024 Received: (at 72277-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2024 17:41:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0P4C-0004H4-6d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:41:12 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:59703) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0P49-0004GJ-HU for 72277-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:41:10 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA2A240101 for <72277-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:40:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1728927646; bh=B13kb5/zu01x3Q+cP/YcBN+IJuExCeEqGnI5CbzX9CY=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:From:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=ZXwZSbprka0uHFgCIO2WYFhIU+u94q8Tws6YYSiFHsjOjorBn2GH2/Gj4R+2b3on5 6RRXspLE3G2lAOGRsFqTlcuzLqpWAmJDIHzzplqCxrmE12Gvag03TIh7G1wLmsHcJC jwK5INjNdwafiEZz3KmDmg1K+TyUzvFrhO2BdNqqFG400wvOgEQYvqoSen3yt3Dy7r T/tJS2MziLrSpfrvk4c9JE1F7d73cJNWIrEaXAcsJSjPhQUBWsUwuCKhY0/tFnwK3w +Mr7ineIJYA62PDvaHw0doCcaCfPlC+GSwRmLechuriL6xUs/a0YSbeX4Oku7a1Vet gUY0hmqQLD/fw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4XS4JX4nSTz9rxG; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <7c10c6d2-9729-4a10-adbc-fc9be8c0f2e2@posteo.net> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:40:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#72277: home-shepherd is flooding tty To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= References: <65ff85e1-644a-4f8d-9c46-25d6e98b569d@posteo.net> <871q1f7psh.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Dariqq In-Reply-To: <871q1f7psh.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72277-done Cc: 72277-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Ludo, Thank you very much for the review of the shepherd patch and the patch for the silent? field to enable it. Closing the original issue as well. On 19.09.24 15:10, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Dariqq skribis: > >> It would be nice to add an option to home-shepherd-configuration to >> autolaunch the shepherd with --silent once it is available in a tagged >> release. > > I believe we can make this change right away since 0.10.x supports > ‘--silent’ (it doesn’t have any effect as of 0.10.5 but it’s not > rejected). > > Would you like to prepare a patch? > > Thanks, > Ludo’. From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:17:22 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:24:15 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator