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Add: instead of yours. Or: in addition to yours. From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:10:52 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dan Jacobson Subject: bug#72169: closed (Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation) Message-ID: References: <86v813ffba.fsf@gnu.org> <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 72169 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 72169@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 05:20:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1721280002-2333-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1721280002-2333-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #72169: emacs --user documentation which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 72169@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 72169: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D72169 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1721280002-2333-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 72169-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2024 05:19:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUJXm-0000Zg-6k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:19:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUJXh-0000Z1-Vk for 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:19:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sUJXX-00026E-IW; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:18:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3YIl+Ne1uPiVq/7Il5Cd3tGtGsh5JCJiy9TN4xH6ZC8=; b=BHvXNNy7tNAP 1i2odwXoywYVJH/BUQvWn6FWKf6K+Cwl8oa6UYd73pmNY463iUghCK3R1edVYpdZarMtY5OtolrCB uCQJfVur5MvVg2GZVafWkwW1FC/pg+v9XnB1aMjrBuT4Q6sd+6p8w2fBEte9T1UE34ReFgK85RWUt Nj9c9hkxD2N/c4EuzeaFYCxaqSrGDdt0MpqTFPAJ5zvBAtb/EbntKYFvf8cWHcA30Q9k/nxtLECws FhQby3NId6bLvNSGrZ2+fzs7ysrRU30pXlCaNqw/cBRsusAUt/OkZrqsTts4Ea3zi7ZDdnDhyhq0J yaQ7dCbIOWUa8JyHHUwP8Q==; Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:18:49 +0300 Message-Id: <86v813ffba.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation References: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72169-done Cc: 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800 > > $ man emacs > -u user, --user=user > Load user's init file. > > Add: > instead of yours. > Or: > in addition to yours. See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description. I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better. We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason. 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Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: emacs --user documentation Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.223.164; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=shrimp.cherry.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) $ man emacs -u user, --user=user Load user's init file. Add: instead of yours. Or: in addition to yours. ------------=_1721280002-2333-1-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:10:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72169 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Dan Jacobson Cc: 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D72169.172129162522594 (code D ref 72169); Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 72169-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2024 08:33:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUMa8-0005sM-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:33:45 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f50.google.com ([209.85.208.50]:59858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUMa5-0005s5-P2 for 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:33:43 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f50.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-57cf8880f95so516406a12.3 for <72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:33:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1721291552; x=1721896352; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=F4zuP8mpvZLMoZet2YLl8ntAhL3HOrmFwQ14YUf3CiY=; b=NjSj29KTwiWYSyI4xlQkP+fRqluKgg7pJvLWGGeXwhcW3lfkem5zY5H2SXZWevbpUI wCIRWzgwbkw2reaqBxBdrIA4TvtpDzYwjFnZuiVUWVKckvZkoSGTfGeWAZBXF6sAODBe Agp8Sz0y1DtSVy2/Ln7EZN8MbeAD0ju3gmVKGb7ClHDFfGsGkfFT5Fu8q3DKqZqS2du+ D2GbEQ2jEaYmgN2RmzdoyLarbemb2XMkWoznQc5RvUCY8iOAfY4R+f6CdaxIRCx59smZ QBml406drGFbNgLUk4Do4tNLDRdjqLzcldeQeUAVfaY0GlFoe3wesjSGZSFdjmCJyX2H pppw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1721291552; x=1721896352; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=F4zuP8mpvZLMoZet2YLl8ntAhL3HOrmFwQ14YUf3CiY=; b=Rmq3JnrVv9KT6xh/deLoikAXXr6nZtS4eHrvE8pPS5wZBYeXrk47jG/hm1yLWQYMaK 3UE+T4wPRdh9Ur00IWD2CDQX1Nj4R3rbF4TOSuyi0/t4voKv4LNsMB0kB/5k12ztC4Fw sPPyccFpZiyDWnjPOCwKH2om5PxPx9dRZWwPpNwvPhhkOkxaH8HWDcusxoiqjSKPiXw8 HmaUyzvvlxIRuzriOyrM2iOjghtScvoFt3EKbM73ua9lGstkH9T2zNAAeBlVPP5upmZK wPbjPN3P4EfEkFejffd0HwexGUZpwJW9X8s8lc3bCg+Nkp3dwGQ3Jj5o2NAZYmyeDYIV 6y1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzUR4Ec6Ks308hgiBGdH1oPhCB+2gAC4t8b2e6LgWSvkeWTCGQQ J5vniYRjK22zudCCtzrsf6f4pYnTDqOU/c0yGfXtdtjdDFEF/W1aE20nh0r+xLA1DzeaSJJFu7A jwQjaT9YWXf4HPjsqIXGUfiGYHAOmgIrktS0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHW1KMrjhV67J2/PYhpERXD8lz4yi8xpBkiDqq6bG1X5WZTfz67pdA2KH0rDP2HnqVVTCqBZLrFRdEFhQT7XQs= X-Received: by 2002:a50:d59a:0:b0:58d:fd5a:eb54 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5a05bcc6a22mr3691013a12.17.1721291552041; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <86v813ffba.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> <86v813ffba.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Dan Jacobson >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800 >> >> $ man emacs >> -u user, --user=user >> Load user's init file. >> >> Add: >> instead of yours. >> Or: >> in addition to yours. > > See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description. > > I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better. > We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason. > > So I'm closing this bug report. I installed a change to add the words "instead of your own", which is the same text as in "emacs --help". From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:10:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72169 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 72169@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 72169-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72169.172129309724896 (code B ref 72169); Thu, 18 Jul 2024 08:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 72169) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2024 08:58:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36862 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUMxs-0006TU-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:58:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sUMxq-0006TH-Cf for 72169@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:58:15 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sUMxf-0002Yq-DH; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:58:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=k2+iJN1M9hfA6NiHNWGOuU45Ld2HnPFxJsm0e23M9tE=; b=fm3bh2iTRkF+ sFs33kRJr+EHrKgxmvfwKZEP7GLhAyUS/tu1g13X6HXhHr1VYPemIkStZ6TjNHpmezkkSLZxej+fm VWWQL3Cg3TGxVp/HPTzNTxnD9cIm4w2gioC5akLdrcp6FnuWWT7nVh1Fpn16JofflSJaohJc9JZEr PBUJ26f8XwnxOFTNaCDmxM2ixiTBw52CcZ4bSeZiiZxV46feh1VUVxq0u+19DxH5Ihh7keqiVTHQU pq1HWTd0uaviza0/Ni+3o9WCQltgYJkjmtDgH/Z+INgm1uN2WF0FP9vek4zSfLNpUvBW71H5asZCV IBxHuMvOqBguCDw1c0bPmQ==; Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:57:58 +0300 Message-Id: <86msmff561.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700) References: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> <86v813ffba.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:32:31 -0700 > Cc: 72169-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Dan Jacobson > >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800 > >> > >> $ man emacs > >> -u user, --user=user > >> Load user's init file. > >> > >> Add: > >> instead of yours. > >> Or: > >> in addition to yours. > > > > See "emacs --help" and the Emacs user manual for a better description. > > > > I don't see a need to invest efforts in making the man page better. > > We prefer the Info manual and the on-line help for a reason. > > > > So I'm closing this bug report. > > I installed a change to add the words "instead of your own", which is > the same text as in "emacs --help". Thanks for upholding my opinions. From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:10:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#72169: emacs --user documentation Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 03:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72169 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dan Jacobson Cc: 72169@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 72169-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72169.172153095532615 (code B ref 72169); Sun, 21 Jul 2024 03:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 72169) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2024 03:02:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54603 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sVMqJ-0008Tz-G8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:02:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sVMqH-0008Tl-Gj for 72169@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:02:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVMo4-0003Gw-Pn; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:00:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=v6DBLJz0lMONUNXB08LjhlwPYbiCD3YR0mWN56ZMvt8=; b=rruP/X2YEY9d otHEyEgLm1iPrQaX2/520I5Lp1s3+T6uTcHcJLZioQwv8M6TdsDlEv25UjKncwCtWmEmU7QpwpH8p eJPLERw2KQfNU/aZUrXfC+a8vISvxR/xisL9KCUM9IZ5iaPm5HSGy+bYKkDFCVpLgK7oYmYol8o9P p6ZNfx1X2qfyfExsIWOH59UdCQuexsPInb8uzLV8OCtJylPKsn0swduimMxNfp2yzo2fF2SZ/fmjJ c0dYbOrPqniuWeAG5YhzOQf5e2rs9juM+bJhnbqEV3Hqr9V/5PyVS2tzT6Nd3N6Ume/+GkLnTQtoc 4NrfqV33LxfElelwD6KIhQ==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVMo4-0002mg-9a; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:00:16 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:24:52 +0800) References: <87frs78jqz.1.fsf@jidanni.org> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 23:00:16 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Add: > instead of yours. > Or: > in addition to yours. Good catch. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)