From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 00:31:41 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2024 04:31:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sR2Vw-0005l7-Bl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2024 00:31:41 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQwum-0004tg-Dc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2024 18:32:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQwuh-0007w1-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2024 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQwue-0002Xx-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2024 18:32:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:Message-Id:Subject:Date:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=StKYmG0h/diFOfEX+aWia9tIUi18ZFiJdveTa7no6R0=; b=Rjnq7A65SkgoPzhoJAN2xDGi1t sXFxMyU62aAinoQNd7SNNwbi3tz4FvfravccaSDLD8h9dA1BxuvsHajlxyAC8RaoL5/4qEyroAsl1 +svM9nH3AOeM7Vi/0BeqXjBkC+LMhlfSJQPCw4lN5g9VSoI2toYvxgU3VznwSpWdCNT0B/Bm53fhw FTQm27udAaLEiUpUhQD8HjqgCBwragVEMyEjg+GhebxaydrDZZXADtA00KAmVq+6BB345RdgzK0Pf dfW5Kh1NlWAl3PO1OpeTPlvO8bX6MVXLt7Z6iIfbSg21HVU3kYnzeerbi73SOcwGxMld3IinFt3dr DsiessVA==; Received: from 104-188-96-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net ([104.188.96.217]:57387 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQwtv-00034S-6x; Mon, 08 Jul 2024 18:32:04 -0400 From: Giah de Barag Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:32:02 -0400 Subject: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS Message-Id: To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.254.205.15; envelope-from=gdb@crelg.com; helo=telf.telf.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 00:31:36 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) * SUMMARY Drag and drop does not work in Emacs version 29 on macOS. * DESCRIPTION - Drag and drop does NOT work on Emacs 29 on macOS. (Drag and drop DOES work in Emacs < 28. Upgrading to v29 makes drag and drop stop working.) - If we do M-x describe-key then drag and drop a file on the text area of the window, we get - nothing -- in Emacs 29 - a spurious message -- in Emacs 28 - a normal message -- in Emacs 26 * USE CASE 1 - App: Emacs 29.x 1. emacs -Q 2. drag and drop a file from macOS Finder to Emacs ** EXPECTED BEHAVIOR 3. file should open in Emacs ** ACTUAL BEHAVIOR 3. NOTHING HAPPENS |-------+---------------------| | Emacs | Drag-n-Drop | |-------+---------------------| | 29.3 | NOTHING HAPPENS | | 28.2 | drag-and-drop works | | 26.3 | drag-and-drop works | |-------+---------------------| * USE CASE 2 1. M-x describe-key 2. Drag and drop a file from Finder to Emacs ** EXPECTED BEHAVIOR 3. should receive an informative message like =E2=80=9C ... runs ... ns-drag-n-drop ...=E2=80=9D ** ACTUAL BEHAVIOR 3. Results below. Regarding v28, even though drag-and-drop itself works fine in v28, we get this spurious =E2=80=9Cposition not in text area=E2=80=9D message. It is spurious because we indeed drag and drop the file into the text area. |-------+---------------------------------------------| | Emacs | ACTUAL BEHAVIOR | |-------+---------------------------------------------| | 26.3 | =E2=80=9C ... runs ... ns-drag-n-drop=E2=80=9D = | | 28.2 | =E2=80=9CPosition not in text area of window=E2=80=9D = | | 29.3 | NOTHING HAPPENS | |-------+---------------------------------------------| -- In GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G9323)) of 2024-03-24 built on builder10-14.lan Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113 System Description: macOS 12.7.5 Configured using: 'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --with-modules 'CFLAGS=3D-DFD_SETSIZE=3D10000 -DDARWIN_UNLIMITED_SELECT' --with-x-toolkit=3Dno' Configured features: ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7a015c51848a41c505524be5365298b5; Tue, 09 Jul 2024 06:29:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Giah de Barag Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS In-Reply-To: (Giah de Barag's message of "Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:32:02 -0400") References: Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 14:29:27 +0800 Message-ID: <87msmr13js.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22464 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 555 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: 72003@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Giah de Barag writes: > * SUMMARY > > Drag and drop does not work in Emacs version 29 on macOS. > > > * DESCRIPTION > > - Drag and drop does NOT work on Emacs 29 on macOS. (Drag > and drop DOES work in Emacs < 28. Upgrading to v29 makes > drag and drop stop working.) > > - If we do M-x describe-key then drag and drop a file on the > text area of the window, we get > - nothing -- in Emacs 29 Since I cannot reproduce this in GNUstep on Emacs 30, this has either been dealt with in the release branch, or is specific to Mac OS. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 11 09:08:09 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2024 13:08:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51245 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRtWq-0003cu-Ue for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:08:09 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]:42004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRtWo-0003cl-GN for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:08:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=NDbjpD8cTlu0og1E249KYEWorFC/PJZgB20y7IXcBrI=; b=GsHEb+7Uajo7Ru1oGcRxDwBpqx ENQatTy9PBKjVNblo6vb7Tl/QKDifYSi45j2svs9mgLBgNY0tyHzpG+LgHI3LXmjkEzmJYHkjhbd1 ObBHAVI86Ujs4+9MktXbAo7UzpN8IYUvuYQ0CgRavsnNT3eLBg8WlTjFuima4CH9HGm5ttVZdqA9A XPdohWSNQgMOg8nCzVsXMXFc6owG8LUDEyln+eJka+SXV1JX9/y0rSWHglcUbK3lIuzlrhfFAyig5 UgCPsa0DGr2v4yPpZrYssAsYOi/JYFW5Z4UIDQnjK4JE8kDed2VLHz8yjsOqJ3MLDBuc2Ti8pelWv HOFzHUXQ==; Received: from 104-188-96-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net ([104.188.96.217]:51785 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRtWk-0001SV-AE; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:08:04 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS From: Giah de Barag In-Reply-To: <87msmr13js.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:08:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <87msmr13js.fsf@yahoo.com> To: Po Lu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: 72003@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Jul 9, 2024, at 02:29, Po Lu wrote: > Giah de Barag writes: > >> * SUMMARY >> >> Drag and drop does not work in Emacs version 29 on macOS. >> >> * DESCRIPTION >> >> - Drag and drop does NOT work on Emacs 29 on macOS. (Drag >> and drop DOES work in Emacs < 28. Upgrading to v29 makes >> drag and drop stop working.) >> >> - If we do M-x describe-key then drag and drop a file on the >> text area of the window, we get -- nothing -- in Emacs 29 > > Since I cannot reproduce this in GNUstep on Emacs 30, this has either > been dealt with in the release branch, or is specific to Mac OS Who maintains the macOS-specific code? 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(Drag >>> and drop DOES work in Emacs < 28. Upgrading to v29 makes >>> drag and drop stop working.) >>> >>> - If we do M-x describe-key then drag and drop a file on the >>> text area of the window, we get -- nothing -- in Emacs 29 >> >> Since I cannot reproduce this in GNUstep on Emacs 30, this has either >> been dealt with in the release branch, or is specific to Mac OS Giah> Who maintains the macOS-specific code? Drag and drop works fine for me on macOS with Emacs 29.3 and master. Is this one of those 'apps need permission to access folders' security things that pops up every once in a while on macOS? Robert -- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 11 14:42:59 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2024 18:42:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52565 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRyks-00085U-Tp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:42:59 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]:46618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRykq-00085J-0b for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:42:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:In-Reply-To:Cc:References:Message-Id:Date:Subject: Mime-Version:From:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=bcTLmokHUI/TMlUaG/8TGDgeQhpeI9NxrrXbFOshI08=; b=jbcudS0qRyHNFeFajKamm33uz8 13NPbXwlC76l/IsxWPJEshAhUXqZfkFBz/XN+wCuEygb4S9OX20yJTXEmRGQleUO/ahTCM/338For Uqb3xvDAGva3aKSnLgSXR/Um1M7u17fP11KsrhuWyvtWaohz2WXSaBbrr65I6M+pmRppyUl1WRsTT T8idvsa1DlqiNNzsuQOyH7dqCsQNgq1VPrlSz9GPBx4M97FOpii+I11oGCmfcGMAOFflWWTH/U6jP jRbyqN+2G/9IHmQG8QX+iziSN58jWLjSe27lasnj8RqGIRVOuZyJviNWZnAf5dl5OpDoEJTUxQUI8 SlonxRIA==; Received: from 104-188-96-217.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net ([104.188.96.217]:49789 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sRykk-0006qa-QY; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:42:52 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Giah De Barag Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:42:21 -0400 Message-Id: <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> To: Robert Pluim X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21F90) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Jul 11, 2024, at 10:23, Robert Pluim wrote: =EF=BB=BF >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:08:03 -0400, Giah de Barag sai= d: >=20 > Giah> On Jul 9, 2024, at 02:29, Po Lu wrote: >>> Giah de Barag writes: >>>=20 >>>> * SUMMARY >>>>=20 >>>> Drag and drop does not work in Emacs version 29 on macOS. >>>>=20 >>>> * DESCRIPTION >>>>=20 >>>> - Drag and drop does NOT work on Emacs 29 on macOS. 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(Drag > >>> and drop DOES work in Emacs < 28. Upgrading to v29 makes > >>> drag and drop stop working.) > >>> > >>> - If we do M-x describe-key then drag and drop a file on the > >>> text area of the window, we get -- nothing -- in Emacs 29 > >> > >> Since I cannot reproduce this in GNUstep on Emacs 30, this has either > >> been dealt with in the release branch, or is specific to Mac OS > > Giah> Who maintains the macOS-specific code? > > Drag and drop works fine for me on macOS with Emacs 29.3 and > master. Is this one of those 'apps need permission to access folders' > security things that pops up every once in a while on macOS? The above recipe works for me too (the file opens) on macOS 14.5 in emacs -Q, tested on master and Emacs 29.4. 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However, there is no error message= . It Giah> just silently does not work. Search for the string "NOTHING HAPPE= NS" Giah> in my bug report. Also note that rolling back to Emacs 28 or goin= g to Giah> a more recent macOS makes drag and drop work. Ah, so this is Apple=CA=BCs fault =F0=9F=98=89 Giah> What other reasons could we think of, to explain why Emacs 29 dra= g and Giah> drop does not work in macOS 12, an OS that is only three years ol= d, Giah> still supported and updated, and still widely used? "Why does Apple change APIs so that they break drag and drop" is another way of asking that question. Giah> macOS 12 | Emacs 28 | works Giah> macOS 12 | Emacs 29 | does not work Giah> macOS 14 | Emacs 28 | works Giah> macOS 14 | Emacs 29 | works I don=CA=BCt have a macOS 12 machine, so I can=CA=BCt test. Alan, would you= have any ideas? Robert --=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 05:15:08 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2024 09:15:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSCMu-0005ZA-5s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:15:08 -0400 Received: from dane.soverin.net ([185.233.34.21]:49647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSCMm-0005YC-0h for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:15:06 -0400 Received: from smtp.soverin.net (c04smtp-lb01.int.sover.in [10.10.4.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by dane.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WL5Wf6lSbzRf for <72003@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [10.10.4.99]) by soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4WL5Wf30Tlz60 for <72003@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:14:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1720775662; bh=3xkM7J8fqs/11zeqa4B41dmrqtBe4iB1kA/rMnzsyqU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=qawTsSFjmmk29HLkZcdy4OIMElcza3leytsJkXYvUdUA8S39KREUPGKYnKgzq5Tau hXPIucRfW68SSWsWcvil557yeP9AED3byzPeb1vj9xNC0iaxATESGs1T4xpoleXdiO VcHmskBfvTdEpVaKTDTB1h5TM8BRR6J4L35+mW4efgHohZDpZIu+wMjukCZ3AXxQz0 6KoTIe7bTWTbS9NX0rA2in4bIVk8dNLezPGhWChpNJ53o5V2BQO+ihqxMKCmoEHrwv 6fMQNvP96r/6Zknjp/Enr4PqN6Jv6XX7Dr2z6jI1lbl4PjxwjQNAzCoxTJ5xLueJIj kz5+TjeCeEy1w== Received: from alan (uid 1000) (envelope-from alan@idiocy.org) id 1a01bc by shetland (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.13); Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:14:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:14:21 +0100 From: Alan Third To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Robert Pluim , Giah De Barag , Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spampanel-Class: ham X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Giah De Barag X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 10:35:04AM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:42:21 -0400, Giah De Barag said: > > Giah> Thank you for that suggestion. However, there is no error message. It > Giah> just silently does not work. Search for the string "NOTHING HAPPENS" > Giah> in my bug report. Also note that rolling back to Emacs 28 or going to > Giah> a more recent macOS makes drag and drop work. > > Ah, so this is Appleʼs fault 😉 As always. ;) > Giah> macOS 12 | Emacs 28 | works > Giah> macOS 12 | Emacs 29 | does not work > Giah> macOS 14 | Emacs 28 | works > Giah> macOS 14 | Emacs 29 | works > > I donʼt have a macOS 12 machine, so I canʼt test. Alan, would you have > any ideas? My Mac is still running 10.14 or something equally ancient, so I doubt I'll be much help in diagnosing this, but it smells a little to me of an incorrect #if statement somewhere. -- Alan Third From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 08:30:45 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2024 12:30:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53451 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSFQD-0007mx-9C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:30:45 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com ([209.85.221.48]:55682) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSFQ8-0007mh-G6 for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:30:44 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3680667d831so245158f8f.3 for <72003@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1720787374; x=1721392174; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=/pVj/8ijJHL7m/MEXJ7FT7RKkUf8KD/ZMlftja+qMUc=; b=BKTXVa4VZ0QzKrfZI5bFDO9xLMABbmIxctJtET5yRrtpCz3R9t0wc4zjUDv4Evo+v5 fH7Vf9eopM0WTGnHQl84Xtg4HeP29go8qapeT943o5/t7ASIuJhXtJPg7lG/XKEn9cb7 LojOr1NO4nA0DJ5fz1rH6eI4MY5XuQN6si3a1c9wCaGDBVPQ7Aktxt+asUejtA5ZU2Y9 W/vnk6v6FY+F9GUWT5ufq/z3SWPSMn0rb1d6KIDDIfKpONfm3wVogD4QCTJEO4w3pY1x 8JXXp7n1tWG6L/qJCXgRWRkxkszTmrviGxnKMPyugcMvJZnmxzDaa/wdmwMsc8lMlikD 7C2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1720787374; x=1721392174; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:references :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/pVj/8ijJHL7m/MEXJ7FT7RKkUf8KD/ZMlftja+qMUc=; b=g6mXggPGUiO4QSYcqRFSbj+VwBHv2Fm+eB8iwkGDs2bFIDUuQq22BBOi8LQzPksjju zT4RWnLZA7WnxPaYpPEkDphUXbREYXcmK8jPcw2Wle8bXhqshkxh2KaHrdVzLp1ODWUY 5iiUcdIm1pcK9gKTAS58eI3+WtKm9CspXmE6mAIDS9fAJj8fjwwYftnB5XEOWf4BF2Ms LUV3Fa00MCLvU5LxdPsv3QEYUmU+JyFbEtlJSYcRjVhwR3D8j+zNmCvyb6iKAsdM+XVN wLIYbAYUymXUGvZ9COJ1fC9kDMceltpX7/dX7xiiaDNtJ/srTZIwEhFjMdiMR9oYpVXx 2sCA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVQqpS/Nx4U2HD1yXHUPu/lUhBtTAjfssmH6HjMZwtMTlzieFjM7fQUO3IXBOxClbkOkdh3CBFwnE2pAK0YGLStX4h4FE4= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwqJBRF6L4qsiuqkD7yeC7xnpS27L7pYcwG56rD47hTF/H5BC0N PFnoSWp9QrJsYiSJglY7i5Ryi96vx6LkMJ1R3cVg3/F/sGQhYQ6na3eaVA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFXoBzXY2Xg4hX1VkhxJQbdE4ZwFzeAt61QSoC/p4JZaEaX7yLO9/bTKhgy/SZ5ZnoxiXP6MA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e90e:0:b0:367:9988:849e with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-367cea964cbmr7257236f8f.39.1720787373910; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-367cdfa05eesm10056776f8f.84.2024.07.12.05.29.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:29:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Alan Third Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS In-Reply-To: (Alan Third's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:14:21 +0100") References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:29:32 +0200 Message-ID: <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Giah De Barag X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:14:21 +0100, Alan Third said: >>=20 >> I don=CA=BCt have a macOS 12 machine, so I can=CA=BCt test. Alan, wo= uld you have >> any ideas? Alan> My Mac is still running 10.14 or something equally ancient, so I = doubt Alan> I'll be much help in diagnosing this, but it smells a little to m= e of Alan> an incorrect #if statement somewhere. You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from homebrew or similar? Thanks Robert --=20 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 20:39:02 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2024 00:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQmz-00043Z-Rb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:39:02 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]:37266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQmx-00043Q-Sq for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:39:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mW2gj8yRv+M55gDsuJEj9dFFVOLw84IlFzP9obgdsac=; b=i5NT/GBzR1XZN2flXIQ5YVrF8X +LgPzC0OtG3HgXFCVkSsY0GVEqQZbsnJkSCquqk53CB1aBYo+jK4Keg2N5BUwwudp2ucZ5GIzYOAQ 8J1KavPnYZJH+KZ+SVYWFaE684SCxvn+KsVfWtxwgK3hvDXyUAltqGCitb11eNhrt0bS7qVsy0qaK qtaYE9btfTQAwfXANfV4HZgB11AhCXYuOmNXwpyU1MBAJLU/3Z7U66kPVru6feNfT5KZu9wIQmmwg 5Ji9qRD8JywoRhDekCVOAGzhf1k2QLIiUTodwTuo3R3DgGJ+BsQ/C3+hLyaUH3c/+lgJkQ8a/PC2C DBIwrybQ==; Received: from syn-173-095-000-162.biz.spectrum.com ([173.95.0.162]:13390 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQmq-0000hG-UJ; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:38:56 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS From: Giah de Barag In-Reply-To: <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:38:54 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> To: Robert Pluim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Alan Third X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Jul 12, 2024, at 08:29, Robert Pluim wrote: > You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like > that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. > > Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from > homebrew or similar? > > Thanks > > Robert Yes, these are from homebrew. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 20:46:18 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2024 00:46:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQu1-0004Gc-UA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:46:18 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]:37358) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQtz-0004GU-Mc for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:46:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Z4GEkjcQ10uYLtaMpg1SQhpj33+X37Ba7Z7v/Zwd7Lg=; b=LFQlzmdOS295lCBIYTkPZTNZ17 E3Sq9xOr9LygK6pX7gueuKfNx0fQ+xuISlBjAI4olmiQjdk6Lbr0rc6VhWbx8Epbl+avYhSxfH5rq xJC2Gc7/B2ytmNs5byz/OEMISB+n+Pmuq1rDi7TMiow3YHrbGtYFkxJD91j1PGtNlbgFe7jEJWwdR KoZn21pcPYAaLgIyOnwPKHx58D/rEh7rMF3bFm6aO3ttqFw0Nxr3jmJbd1KyRQ2meZG7uUDql220n zRq85FECw3f8Iw+epcWkRgQzblxZHpmoBxfZmD6onpMJUvJasapQwbZeyh7G5j2jdDv5Im7abmcrl 5c3IzCvQ==; Received: from syn-173-095-000-162.biz.spectrum.com ([173.95.0.162]:27330 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSQtt-0000qe-MV; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:46:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS From: Giah de Barag In-Reply-To: <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:46:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <93B09557-69C7-4C48-A57C-392C05B1835F@crelg.com> References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> To: Robert Pluim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Alan Third X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Jul 12, 2024, at 20:38, Giah de Barag wrote: > On Jul 12, 2024, at 08:29, Robert Pluim wrote: > >> You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like >> that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. >> >> Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from >> homebrew or similar? >> >> Thanks >> >> Robert > > Yes, these are from homebrew. Thanks. Sorry, I spoke too soon. These are all from emacsformacosx.com. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 06:50:48 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2024 10:50:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSaL1-0002If-S0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:50:48 -0400 Received: from dane.soverin.net ([185.233.34.21]:54593) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSaKy-0002IP-HR for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 06:50:46 -0400 Received: from smtp.soverin.net (c04smtp-lb01.int.sover.in [10.10.4.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by dane.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WLlbg19Z0zPP; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [10.10.4.99]) by soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4WLlbd4X1fz5n; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:50:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1720867806; bh=4sh1kPoBAMG1L+z2ghxu4sW785PEsVqAxlc80bUsAn4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=el24M361Injp2hDDBwbdC38thMmUcJ53AGifJo8LDBD3ZNvLitv4cuTuk+PJT7/EE 98xu9HKtySJUiLLtS3BpKK8gFUT5XitkVbmviNDQrdOKIFRmqqjoaldC0yB6WsIsYt +YMZNiRdxAf8Sqz7WwaEjTAmtbEI0ER7pqlAlgHycQlgSyQQsRMgaqoaQoHqtRwRkU OlhShRbkdA4F5NWh0NIRDHfRxdSbLQK+KnXQBIMuWM+niIzEeJg79vxtGG8vwborul fQhXniUvct1Acap65tZCWjx/+ydTJ331/H3P5gRal94dS/TL/AQvyg9fCIFPH/WsPk w3b04EzFxIO+g== Received: from alan by faroe.holly.idiocy.org with local (Exim 4.97) (envelope-from ) id 1sSaKK-00000001Rex-3Toa; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 11:50:04 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 11:50:04 +0100 From: Alan Third To: Giah de Barag Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Giah de Barag , Robert Pluim , Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> <93B09557-69C7-4C48-A57C-392C05B1835F@crelg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <93B09557-69C7-4C48-A57C-392C05B1835F@crelg.com> X-Spampanel-Class: ham X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 08:46:11PM -0400, Giah de Barag wrote: > On Jul 12, 2024, at 20:38, Giah de Barag wrote: > > > On Jul 12, 2024, at 08:29, Robert Pluim wrote: > > > >> You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like > >> that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. > >> > >> Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from > >> homebrew or similar? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Robert > > > > Yes, these are from homebrew. Thanks. > > Sorry, I spoke too soon. These are all from emacsformacosx.com. I'm not quite up to date on the status of the various macOS builds, but it might be worth trying Jim's build: https://github.com/jimeh/emacs-builds or try building it yourself. -- Alan Third From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 15:49:58 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2024 19:49:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSikn-0002Yn-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 15:49:57 -0400 Received: from telf.telf.com ([192.254.205.15]:48934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSikk-0002Yb-Fs for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 15:49:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crelg.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=F+IHbzE0SCUNllYPBTQtkjUhle7lnRfiGPuhLZXKfyc=; b=PFFqMr/hl+xFxQQ1GON9PNmljx y1xMAgBh4wpMFzsg6FACduCkQWcLgZzlWAsmNDy7v6wPPWjsp/p9uzk1UOUn+4Ibsl1y1M7Zzv+9w Q8dCP6UwZUzgo7hbNtkXskWZB7dZvNxPEzy9Go4SelZEWvpQ3oqLJVZmm/L4RNDRFKSs7c/VgBrzE aa+6X+ZlxRWjMkTcWIOW18TIoxqQKRnb8RFdMi4JJKYC1F3/1ydpHhoMtSsi/f6IPYI+J0p1wcdwj lMoASOdPwo6iv8YL8jlK2onFCjZ70SYhzAVia6ta9CXNoj6pJ1C2lzImHJJevCauZlQkY2Wr8wpjE TJt77ogA==; Received: from syn-173-095-000-162.biz.spectrum.com ([173.95.0.162]:26647 helo=smtpclient.apple) by telf.telf.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sSikc-0002CS-UH; Sat, 13 Jul 2024 15:49:50 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS From: Giah de Barag In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 15:49:48 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2DA93413-54DF-4471-B089-B9FEE691322D@crelg.com> References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> <93B09557-69C7-4C48-A57C-392C05B1835F@crelg.com> To: Alan Third X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - telf.telf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crelg.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: telf.telf.com: authenticated_id: gdb@crelg.com X-Authenticated-Sender: telf.telf.com: gdb@crelg.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Jul 13, 2024, at 06:50, Alan Third wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 08:46:11PM -0400, Giah de Barag wrote: >> On Jul 12, 2024, at 20:38, Giah de Barag wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jul 12, 2024, at 08:29, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>=20 >>>> You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like >>>> that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. >>>>=20 >>>> Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from >>>> homebrew or similar? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks >>>>=20 >>>> Robert >>>=20 >>> Yes, these are from homebrew. Thanks. >>=20 >> Sorry, I spoke too soon. These are all from emacsformacosx.com. >=20 > I'm not quite up to date on the status of the various macOS builds, > but it might be worth trying Jim's build: >=20 > https://github.com/jimeh/emacs-builds >=20 > or try building it yourself. > --=20 > Alan Third In Jim=E2=80=99s build, yes, drag and drop works, but it still does = this: 1. C-h k (describe-key) 2. Drag and drop something into the text area of the window. 3. Emacs incorrectly complains: "Position not in text area of window" And PDF viewing is broken on Jim=E2=80=99s build (DocView complains = =E2=80=9Cthe pdf process exited abnormally=E2=80=9D). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 26 15:44:51 2024 Received: (at 72003) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jul 2024 19:44:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQrz-0004DI-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:44:51 -0400 Received: from dane.soverin.net ([185.233.34.148]:37093) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQrs-0004Cx-9L for 72003@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:44:49 -0400 Received: from smtp.soverin.net (c04smtp-lb01.int.sover.in [10.10.4.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by dane.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WVyrC6MgCz2xKm; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [10.10.4.99]) by soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4WVyrC4Nsbz6W; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 19:44:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1722023067; bh=uJrHNFG7DDBHsgCuj2J9OqHnCHTh26fL3y13LNCbIPo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Z1QT5Eou0FS4pabXvHANfq+sSjhtcV6AqQqCAX1HrnkxSzhvlcuPIGVv30WC40wU+ X+psMtDEHuBvFcWk5iiTQX2V9U4JIRP5YOl15UQj1wBgAWamg+YHER+kob5WJO6Sa7 LB0//CkH1OHq5e5Y++SWcGRyBoIPEvRt+2hguRKOAo0jeSVN2pjlUVjws+0GBJsISx bIuWc3P8ft1EMn0SX4/55BZ8N4fGUaL3Badk0Pnj1Plw0JcjcToi4gJgZa6VKcDWYs VXs/fNpFzMWvWlS9F3hXcunO7GTN22zuXbcaBNRosv/doUd59BCgbjvOtC0CoBAHJl GHnuNzjUTYlTg== Received: from alan by faroe.holly.idiocy.org with local (Exim 4.97) (envelope-from ) id 1sXQrb-00000001Zzr-01mo; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:44:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:44:26 +0100 From: Alan Third To: Giah de Barag Subject: Re: bug#72003: 29.3; Drag and drop in Emacs 29 on macOS Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Giah de Barag , Robert Pluim , Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87o77457q0.fsf@gmail.com> <15EF7126-08B5-4ACD-A65A-653B7857C998@crelg.com> <87cynjf1on.fsf@gmail.com> <878qy6g5eb.fsf@gmail.com> <688E7746-147B-470C-B79B-F31E064B4FEF@crelg.com> <93B09557-69C7-4C48-A57C-392C05B1835F@crelg.com> <2DA93413-54DF-4471-B089-B9FEE691322D@crelg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2DA93413-54DF-4471-B089-B9FEE691322D@crelg.com> X-Spampanel-Class: ham X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 72003 Cc: Po Lu , 72003@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 03:49:48PM -0400, Giah de Barag wrote: > On Jul 13, 2024, at 06:50, Alan Third wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 08:46:11PM -0400, Giah de Barag wrote: > >> On Jul 12, 2024, at 20:38, Giah de Barag wrote: > >> > >>> On Jul 12, 2024, at 08:29, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>> > >>>> You mean the MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED? It looks like > >>>> that influences how Emacs interacts with the PasteBoard. > >>>> > >>>> Giah, did you build your emacsen yourself? Or are these from > >>>> homebrew or similar? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Robert > >>> > >>> Yes, these are from homebrew. Thanks. > >> > >> Sorry, I spoke too soon. These are all from emacsformacosx.com. > > > > I'm not quite up to date on the status of the various macOS builds, > > but it might be worth trying Jim's build: > > > > https://github.com/jimeh/emacs-builds > > > > or try building it yourself. > > In Jim’s build, yes, drag and drop works, but it still does this: Hmm, that makes me think that the issue is something to do with David's build scripts for emacsformacosx.com. You could try reporting it to him if you want. I think the bug reporting info is on the website. > 1. C-h k (describe-key) > > 2. Drag and drop something into the text > area of the window. > > 3. Emacs incorrectly complains: > "Position not in text area of window" I'm not sure but you may have to drop into the minibuffer while using describe-key. > And PDF viewing is broken on Jim’s build (DocView complains “the pdf > process exited abnormally”). I'm not sure what's needed there. You could again try reporting it to Jim directly. The alternative is trying to build it yourself, which is actually relatively easy if you're already using homebrew or macports. Sorry for the long delay in replying. -- Alan Third