From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: epg@pretzelnet.org Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.172023319727686 (code B ref -1); Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:34:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 02:33:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEj-0007CU-2s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:17 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEg-0007CL-PR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEd-0005hh-2Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:11 -0400 Received: from fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.149]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEZ-00012J-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:10 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B341380616 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pretzelnet.org; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1720233184; x=1720319584; bh=FvukqCpkRSHpeCfKMo22sUsdRE8iGHfS pGW554U2OkE=; b=KzPjjNcbSPoNFfsfBZjqrU09HZQenbE77lNlumfMi8REFV1Z MOUZbO37kHdmF02L1fVBa98DEuNWK4jOkwPmSg21OgxdoaVxqGkME8A8H7dXexAg 5N+Q9RjMkOjTPScWgAPY4yoNzvUE0wYmjXwLuCj/+UOGnCI/snwCh6+DdkvxobO4 54/RJfRg37GIhoMwRx6rJVYKpQZCBxpTrCsnUFd09UBHPdhrk3d81Pex047JxriY 3vUqtneOB4u+KCpGyjcjCE9gHY974lGIQzcfTFRcHdKLZPjyMNPRk/rKNFUwOs/C kiir52l656IHeG0IoJH9Vavzleidv/S9LtiAwQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1720233184; x=1720319584; bh=FvukqCpkRSHpeCfKMo22sUsdRE8iGHfSpGW 554U2OkE=; b=SrOO+eoY/N8i2wI2IZxSbKR7z3iJq3EHa45CoEtXM/OROfePoyQ zaiqNmq2uthIOzByOXvXKcXmWx2VAH2lyi7s62WA9onZ6eGVCCGvjcucXlI+jHed glmB5GBVIz3O3Euis2N3X+j2e1j1pbqcfMAzD8BPOkUh9q9JEop5Ox9VtlBxfgGb 8ihcCmN/2xd1YEZCY7RivOIBB2flsPFffW3pK/ti+ETt2qkMJ3djJtXYIO7tPVp7 Oic8WtU7wt/Vzz9FfHp3/an0e16GJGjA8M9/Qp5TLHzxNSEdjexdIsAx/WWaOt9K TrWun2kvlEdaQfIO+pLB3/8EYm/9w8le9vA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvddvgdehlecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfgfgggtsehttdertddtre dtnecuhfhrohhmpegvphhgsehprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghenucggtffrrghtthgv rhhnpeeihfekteeikeduiefhhffhffevheetudeiheffjeegheehtdekfefgvdduffehgf enucffohhmrghinhepfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvghpghesphhrvghtiigvlhhnvghtrdhorh hg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i58794908:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: epg@pretzelnet.org Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=103.168.172.149; envelope-from=epg@pretzelnet.org; helo=fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) II I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can figure it out before I can track it down. GNUS is configured like so: #+begin_src elisp (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") gnus-secondary-select-methods '( (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-record-commands t) ) ) ) #+end_src What happened: 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this is a new post-29.x regression. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more quickly, that would be great :). Thanks! Expected results: Back at the *Group* buffer. Actual results: Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time I type 'q': nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). But here's what I found when I finally looked: #+begin_example 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE #+end_example In GNU Emacs 30.0.60 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-06-27 built on dogato Repository revision: c477443ab80a087a94c357f3fe5fd62c97e6f6ab Repository branch: emacs-30 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101012 System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/opt/emacs-30.0.60.2.c477443ab80 --disable-silent-rules --with-x-toolkit=athena --without-sqlite3 --without-lcms2 --without-libsystemd --without-imagemagick --with-json --with-tree-sitter --without-xft --without-libotf --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-xaw3d --without-gpm --without-dbus --without-gconf --without-gsettings --without-selinux --without-compress-install --with-x' Configured features: CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: server-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow emacsbug grep dired-aux ffap files-x shell pcomplete log-edit add-log cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs doc-view jka-compr image-mode exif vc-cvs vc-rcs log-view pcvs-util vc-dir vc server mule-util url-http url-gw url-auth eww xdg mm-url cl-extra sort gnus-cite shr-color color mm-archive mail-extr textsec uni-scripts idna-mapping ucs-normalize uni-confusable textsec-check gnus-bcklg gnus-async misearch multi-isearch qp gnus-ml disp-table nndraft nnmh utf-7 network-stream nsm nnfolder nnnil gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime gnutls dig nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 nnoo parse-time iso8601 gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus nnheader range elfeed-show elfeed-search wid-edit bookmark message sendmail yank-media dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader shr pixel-fill kinsoku puny svg dom elfeed-csv elfeed elfeed-curl elfeed-log elfeed-db elfeed-lib time-date avl-tree generator url-queue url-file browse-url xml-query xml rust-utils rust-mode derived rust-rustfmt rust-playpen rust-compile rust-cargo eglot external-completion jsonrpc xref flymake thingatpt project compat diff ert pp ewoc debug backtrace help-mode find-func filenotify warnings compile text-property-search imenu ob-sql ob ob-tangle ol org-src sh-script rx smie treesit executable ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp ob-comint comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring ob-core org-cycle org-fold org-fold-core ob-eval org-keys oc org-compat org-macs format-spec pcase vc-git diff-mode track-changes easy-mmode vc-dispatcher url-cache url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf mailcap url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs icons cl-loaddefs cl-lib password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads inotify dynamic-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 558744 95181) (symbols 48 40676 20) (strings 32 118574 7565) (string-bytes 1 2790760) (vectors 16 70930) (vector-slots 8 895051 71720) (floats 8 436 8209) (intervals 56 9511 1222) (buffers 992 45)) -- Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: epg@pretzelnet.org, Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.17202479162599 (code B ref 71965); Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 06:38:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz47-0000fr-LJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:38:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz45-0000fb-5Z for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:38:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz3w-0000nl-6F; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:38:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SXVuXwtjjtJZYXJumAKLYJUF6vx3hRwdWquaPd8XIQ8=; b=cGA5Fp4jH2P2 Gx/xKWRXHEubwy5YUnZ8+ey3PDoC6XxoXh8K1zwBOyqIu8SzJBbYCgOrh6f5VHLVrjdIytg3J1yXo NF20L8Dl3nKJ7+myxAzA0C3D7PWr3/P7C00ZwKFvnpqNAcRdKdXsLiV3luKgjD5DVHok93LN0RPEE z/+7OqNfB4P48lcgdUQLAAlFEFluljMhX+bEJwH+qNRHEEcm+q+Ny8MUg380YLgBVz4Zf/G/mLYoL UPb0NGRWQK7KbAQZi1/DiAnOomK7EL3f3qrxjqrGzLFbkj/GUHDc8iL+0syvJ+Ui4PiTbr1hQwsIx 2zxil06AqMQYPtQ9C5w2dA==; Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 Message-Id: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> (epg@pretzelnet.org) References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > figure it out before I can track it down. > > GNUS is configured like so: > > #+begin_src elisp > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > gnus-secondary-select-methods > '( > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > (nnimap-stream ssl) > (nnimap-record-commands t) > ) > ) > ) > #+end_src > > What happened: > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > is a new post-29.x regression. > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > quickly, that would be great :). > > Thanks! > > Expected results: > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > Actual results: > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > I type 'q': > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > #+begin_example > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > #+end_example Thank you for your report. Eric, can you please look into this? From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.172146866630867 (code B ref 71965); Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:45:01 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2024 09:44:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6dd-00081m-P2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6db-00081U-GH for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6dV-0001tR-7y; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=LsaygdM6FYjHbFNFA5EtpUA7OlpV/yGhK23HsiX44/U=; b=ZJyZmLloZyUP Zg0lEQpEsyW/Dzu1Wh7Gv8l9jcSOGyF3y9TCTZCsjgiYJMxyirUoPmj/HiInjPWC1r68DX4BnmAEH 6irtsIo7zyLFXl2rzeGH57NVDcQ8OfrtXtLF3E8AEk8Q33zCj82h0jRZGR2Vczyu3jGtI4gGcqAGE 4jfmQ8uZA52z6CkKUfGUUviOlfo/7r7o7p4JmKDjuhz6h5IeNbRMgBkdCgNB8uI5MDqrjNtP1RWXe UD5iKAj6eCMbcmlOZsc4dRCr78RvEjQTdrYNMGVj/ibGkNI29Ti9xjZ25J9t3IJhTq4V3QwQ1M7zO ro52BN4hRtg30tw/dcPDEA==; Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 Message-Id: <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300) References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > '( > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > ) > > ) > > ) > > #+end_src > > > > What happened: > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Expected results: > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > Actual results: > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > I type 'q': > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > #+begin_example > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > #+end_example > > Thank you for your report. > > Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 07:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.172275803118816 (code B ref 71965); Sun, 04 Aug 2024 07:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2024 07:53:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3q-0004tP-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3n-0004t0-N3 for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3L-0002wT-H9; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UsKl5gSgGdNhENS0Z9dtlH4J9LIuwTCJSxYW84PJhtc=; b=Kf5TZtkqRYni MPr9dnxheKqkIanWGxVOd52dekPsnDqGqZyA4YxZkk+3DfJ5yGgmI423P0/qqGewjc7NNW2fyxJfr BWGBJeL+F6783iPd8wAagfNY2ISheSvhjc0W5W9gbQy8a1klrmcKcM2tgXb5UE3cdXuhnxBFV8Rix Z4bwRLNLmjQq4Ek7VdObH/oUEXW+8TSD7E8Tyn6yExnSSkxJdlhpTafdhxIIzlqBej7E+5o7KondO RLFluzUEoSDvDA5jcOrAEoHRLlxWbBzlaUBikbTVZ6qJt1po8BDpFgqKCQA1wixI92r/hAKY06wxQ Nli6T3MSZe+9pynu6RGwjw==; Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300 Message-Id: <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300) References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, can we please make some progress here? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > > '( > > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > > ) > > > ) > > > ) > > > #+end_src > > > > > > What happened: > > > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Expected results: > > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > > > Actual results: > > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > > I type 'q': > > > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > > > #+begin_example > > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > > #+end_example > > > > Thank you for your report. > > > > Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > > > > > > > > > From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.17238828882536 (code B ref 71965); Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2024 08:21:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEgi-0000eq-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:21:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEgg-0000eZ-IT for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:21:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEfy-0003iw-FD; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:20:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RNZ49q2oZqt5TblucjND8gFtnlyYhwGDjNLgIcF8LG8=; b=JzSTe3H3XaNC 8xfHAN7TOQmZ0gS5iNa5SPlEa2sXGcMpJQrrC3+h2O3xwRMb+XyJk7ji6/QTiWr8DVh34jnt4HPY6 jkEK54To+XN5bXMxVKs4khiJ681ODVTamk4fpmZGRyWGYH1TxNWkld3MWYDbPLG+yalr4/BWH3tVh khRWJaDHGzoeDJRQIGlsDPBvFyvWvJvDx6ZdsOW+7Djo3TrF6VNU5loEAdHAjtqh3MqTePf39UrTW WpbY7TX1lGLDJh9zKs9qMdx25wNWeBTOAGt7E6giyCUgiwhQplXIg5Chayg1liyT7aL3m2QmCs+to CRSiXrI8EvCRC8xz6CnpuQ==; Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:20:36 +0300 Message-Id: <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300) References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, are you there? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, can we please make some progress here? > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > > > '( > > > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > > > ) > > > > ) > > > > ) > > > > #+end_src > > > > > > > > What happened: > > > > > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Expected results: > > > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > > > > > Actual results: > > > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > > > I type 'q': > > > > > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > > > > > #+begin_example > > > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > > > #+end_example > > > > > > Thank you for your report. > > > > > > Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: epg@pretzelnet.org Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 17:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.172391633430070 (code B ref 71965); Sat, 17 Aug 2024 17:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2024 17:38:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNOA-0007ow-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:38:54 -0400 Received: from fhigh6-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.157]:53579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNO8-0007oj-6Y for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:38:52 -0400 Received: from phl-compute-07.internal (phl-compute-07.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CCE1150D5F; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-01 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-07.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:38:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pretzelnet.org; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1723916287; x= 1724002687; bh=2Efl52Sp2UVJ//9N3ClM4NJefl52pfBuHEe2j4MMHjE=; b=Q bBEDShrPPiQvj1xrnd1QMg5fBv64tYN+klQVuaVFQ7uuotq4Dj1gap68Td+FE9BS V170ImU5GfQCF7KIiDw6Y4KBn5Y5Wdb23x71TjEi/EiIZBKwiZUXp4s8WkHXjB2Q Dj+hbWyf7l+zdw20FuFvA7HR7xRdWoedzGrPyibWkvs3ju/eK6vDezqFM3SaZbtB z043iOQbpxHGQFtIKTYm0h+HSXmCEUh93vfXytHXVuUgaK7JM7G9exkkI/NLj957 81sS8SHLhUL2lHXw1zSHrx2vUBsLK5F3wCD8dpnsNxQuxXhISWx8h3uobA5cnun9 3FW/gy+Wd+HyfdfIK8IEg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; t=1723916287; x=1724002687; bh=2Efl52Sp2UVJ//9N3ClM4NJefl52 pfBuHEe2j4MMHjE=; b=AAtvd8Jd+2IAxhW2WSBSA8I+eniOzUtCfKHFtdcnPhWf 91QvQezzuXVdPsawMZnVT4CTpvVovRdkJmr1batOSLjN9IC2Wuewk/h2DrHjx/Xd lPASLfTMfwSpLIb6inDbnoeHdyjFJL1+B8SfpBl4GC7OjPmagldC+KFgSJ2oEOdi MwrMXvPELCsynotz6yUXTthzDoSSuCEBR/iMfejkQfYTBXZ8/beZOtIFqmczGiCW VkIyRm6YoyDPT2Cn8m/3xozEdYwVrfjzKX6SPinPQUI0PjZivE5FBAZjzEM0K4cY gcobKORWKLWI+rTTPG8ABU6I8N2ejS0uJshTx6C1/Q== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddruddutddgudduiecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdp uffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivg hnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfevufgjfhffkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredt necuhfhrohhmpegvphhgsehprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghenucggtffrrghtthgvrh hnpeetueeuvdeihfffuefgvdefjeevudehffeiveeggfeiveeiueegheeuteejieeutden ucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegvphhgse hprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepfedpmhhouggvpehsmhht phhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepjeduleeiheesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdprh gtphhtthhopegvrhhitgesvghrihgtrggsrhgrhhgrmhhsvghnrdhnvghtpdhrtghpthht ohepvghlihiisehgnhhurdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i58794908:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:38:06 -0400 (EDT) From: epg@pretzelnet.org In-Reply-To: <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:20:36 +0300") References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:38:04 -0500 Message-ID: <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) I have never reproduced it. Maybe it was a freak, less-than-once-a-decade occurrence. Thanks! -- Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: epg@pretzelnet.org Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.17239185321262 (code B ref 71965); Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2024 18:15:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNxc-0000KI-1R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:15:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNxa-0000Jz-8F for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:15:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNwq-000723-6Z; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:14:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=J+Z6yfz4+7m1HDObkBZizaSwHS/8+R3eetnEpUrB8hg=; b=NMgjbA+aO99k FUwMvb0/6EoJuMyNQAZEhqPfVscSW9NhuIz+GXpinrbf4BkRXJMxrOJ7QzZwaFG9porcyW4o9xcDN NfjrcZwP0tBIC+NnIkuxMXj1LMJTkRU3laDlYZ7mrl3liEZZppb+88LgQplEN9b7tdvk/TUL4HqWc CwQwiBJ7FZMFCyJv5lkNEVSnTHu88pSLBg6y5B0FAGK2dyiZol3yXCt1E+hRzpYeseShRtou5JBGf cTp5/fTeXfFmotmVmTKpc1XKRlSkQ3ZthOQHNWun460Y5pRZ+2msiLLmjWKOAQkpxM/z6c7NiTQ4a Zv4i35yqSTr/s0Vo3gcy5g==; Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 21:14:42 +0300 Message-Id: <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> (epg@pretzelnet.org) References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:38:04 -0500 > > I have never reproduced it. Maybe it was a freak, > less-than-once-a-decade occurrence. Are you saying we should close this? From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: epg@pretzelnet.org Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.172400416723122 (code B ref 71965); Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2024 18:02:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfkEp-00060s-F7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:02:47 -0400 Received: from fhigh5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.156]:51125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfkEn-00060d-NQ for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:02:46 -0400 Received: from phl-compute-01.internal (phl-compute-01.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD5114BBAB; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-01 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-01.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:01:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pretzelnet.org; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1724004119; x= 1724090519; bh=KNp6WUkA3TlVRQctkICzMmtPu6/J1wbwb8k8cJe78k0=; b=l M/XwQvnYpUxn5oFLAbgwxW0Hmgo1G63omPoWPlTHmzzBfslsMrIBI79R2ns18uwf ePZYvQVZxEQah8amJ7cbNKCMN8yZel8myUd+q6VhBtfIlLK2+CB738lngenNhqeR FtwJGrE/YJhl+WDBsjwTx2zI8G7R7v1YQj4hnk4sGkAYeEvb1mN7L2JywouuJQ3b 0Gt2yp1TE67Ctf98/V54W0WRx+nW08MaHfZXta7lHc5cCIGi6dhGEihszjV1opvh glFgzdCVnGO8F1xzvp8ayYWx+8MRf9Ggh2Ow0vyFCFQt2/od/Nk05sn+w/jc2txL zYhHFjpabg2QS9jUdE2YA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; t=1724004119; x=1724090519; bh=KNp6WUkA3TlVRQctkICzMmtPu6/J 1wbwb8k8cJe78k0=; b=QP9GKqWeWpyYnzEHLqmbUagD62xnOB8Q1OXT54AFrvka v993nyGuzW/ChgHiOG46sSodBbVgpkm6wT6OW/aNaIKibqRsDs5+xX9nMA8wVWzx 8iVlNI5CYBIRH2bkUuVxTFeGR0UFT50/onJaJeFZE/OrbUEjYtfcw4DedwNPmVUk /Su/7J1/XE9OpU9HyxxDzL4dCr1UexAlsTt3cNG8U0yMKHrp/nie+Y5TcIRmYfC6 gEVbQUmZBKhyv/h08eR7sGlknw0mApQ3Pt34PJm32YKUhLvotuul9icVvUUe9Mid R8xUCic5Xlk7bokpqFRV8xpYQj2Q8swn6fM8OhU3Tw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrudduvddguddvtdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdp uffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivg hnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfevufgjfhffkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredt necuhfhrohhmpegvphhgsehprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghenucggtffrrghtthgvrh hnpeetueeuvdeihfffuefgvdefjeevudehffeiveeggfeiveeiueegheeuteejieeutden ucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegvphhgse hprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepfedpmhhouggvpehsmhht phhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepjeduleeiheesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdprh gtphhtthhopegvrhhitgesvghrihgtrggsrhgrhhgrmhhsvghnrdhnvghtpdhrtghpthht ohepvghlihiisehgnhhurdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i58794908:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: epg@pretzelnet.org In-Reply-To: <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 17 Aug 2024 21:14:42 +0300") References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:01:58 -0500 Message-ID: <87zfp9r9pl.fsf@pretzelnet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Are you saying we should close this? I think closing it makes sense. I can't reproduce it, and no other reports seem to have come in. Clearly there was a bug, but if it's triggered this rarely, there's probably nothing to do. Thanks! -- Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:40:30 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: epg@pretzelnet.org Subject: bug#71965: closed (Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time) Message-ID: References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 71965 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 22:09:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1724018942-16124-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1724018942-16124-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 71965@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 71965: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D71965 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1724018942-16124-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 71965-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2024 22:08:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56935 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfo4J-0004At-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:08:12 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f41.google.com ([209.85.208.41]:60806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfo4H-0004Ad-6m for 71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:08:10 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5bd13ea7604so4499619a12.1 for <71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1724018782; x=1724623582; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=o/I7qU2cPRkm6blki4yvtYgtrOj82B+0IOQcWttehSI=; b=hOGFQJsF58DYZl/IvVaHWxPF79slsIb8tll43sO/7RFbZxPPe0L+a9j+9o2CxwDHaM nAOgfOn5wpE08WxFWX/DGM7FTw2QPDfZaHa82anP++3Wwx7HFLpconkVqYSjz78eVJLN yPSINOgO9IZfdnd3LPfzASzfaah/NHCeitq9Gv8zxO2cUSYPS5u8Y1ba6y3zbNdozLPi ztv2h2P10zr40Yn2nby6zHD4XJcbNNMSdCnPmcgmnbXvEXoaHyqrWmaKm23ORgWbM4TT ll30Grva67E0IYXgrLp8auuYmKjmEVjfZ6be3IhwHG8qVfcXJ/sTqGpmuDnJbJw3Klj8 7TPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724018782; x=1724623582; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=o/I7qU2cPRkm6blki4yvtYgtrOj82B+0IOQcWttehSI=; b=IynMD/ca+CrtRk6JZGyiRCx/lj2QYSfQSutpsIgIfKOdaR0rq3+rUlw2B8a9vsFK0y MDImHBzVnNVFQJsrcG/kIHZO79PtouMAIwyhF0aHCRTh4+TBs1A1Z84v4x3/nc4l7BzO 4jSPS8PK84XB8N1SCNGLlvvR1pZg+HuV4bfgWAyCnm3ZFnu+bUtntd0F04kqdV3ohXHK Fp6NhaISMRRbcwcpVfVqIFbmm1XbGXQ3KhVpMmzpyqQvn+l4zTVi1xVYaQNLHalrUhIf b1rQBz1CeV3DMuE54x0QLnLfMMEdj0CIWFq+riBvhfcM+k0C5T2A4SI4+OBxG9eBCGq2 pxDg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUah2uVg+CAYZ5tvWfbuSU+oa6XWy0IEpP8VuAzs71QNQQEsxesIw7feqasuPo8KHl4mTl93ATAxdDkUZlvHImqXXPDbL1daQHXWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNb6RcZzYiEtYan+WbufgiBkr9xe4zyyXPSHBh1a8ikpTBh9jp W//6KCu/DubfPtrQ3WTz1Dz3RebCLHP5vtkpj9WVwiBbKVoQhHHWsyqIZq1AINGB5f/RJUeVT1c EevDdfRB8Wyy9HCZjce9k28EdE3EQFobF X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFtgFyWXGFnMUEJgYElefex3wx8NeG2WwfJp1EtHJzfMSgyLp4hAm5Ko45wEmUppiKIixjnrqd8fcmYhY6mMyE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:510e:b0:5be:ead2:db86 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5beead2dea6mr2156662a12.5.1724018781868; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87zfp9r9pl.fsf@pretzelnet.org> References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfp9r9pl.fsf@pretzelnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time To: epg@pretzelnet.org, Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965-done Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) epg@pretzelnet.org writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Are you saying we should close this? > > I think closing it makes sense. > > I can't reproduce it, and no other reports seem to have come in. > > Clearly there was a bug, but if it's triggered this rarely, > there's probably nothing to do. > > Thanks! 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I'm not giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can figure it out before I can track it down. GNUS is configured like so: #+begin_src elisp (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") gnus-secondary-select-methods '( (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-record-commands t) ) ) ) #+end_src What happened: 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this is a new post-29.x regression. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more quickly, that would be great :). Thanks! Expected results: Back at the *Group* buffer. Actual results: Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time I type 'q': nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). But here's what I found when I finally looked: #+begin_example 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE #+end_example In GNU Emacs 30.0.60 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-06-27 built on dogato Repository revision: c477443ab80a087a94c357f3fe5fd62c97e6f6ab Repository branch: emacs-30 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101012 System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/opt/emacs-30.0.60.2.c477443ab80 --disable-silent-rules --with-x-toolkit=athena --without-sqlite3 --without-lcms2 --without-libsystemd --without-imagemagick --with-json --with-tree-sitter --without-xft --without-libotf --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-xaw3d --without-gpm --without-dbus --without-gconf --without-gsettings --without-selinux --without-compress-install --with-x' Configured features: CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: server-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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'*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C4=B3s?= Hillenius Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org Received: via spool by 71965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71965.172595397210398 (code B ref 71965); Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2024 07:39:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvTI-0002he-6H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:39:32 -0400 Received: from hillenius.net ([144.76.204.189]:60360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvTH-0002hX-0F for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:39:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hillenius.net; s=hillenius; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aO83N4Wy2F4PevyGTxt6XyRT8x0cLmqRSg1D6c25pPE=; b=nDBrHT26GpU0Q2eud2G0z1slIT Ni39SxnzaLFzXxiFa3ERpEPZE1LmauY0L6Zg7f+Aw6V09LVj6P2b3r3CdqiTenfyRkMIjiwuGhDJI kKySyJIA7H5XbPQD2igwzTH3up4gG66D9/DzbIBL15w67Le7mYMhM+sF5vDJD6aqNArg=; Received: from [2a02:a03f:6b1e:ff01:836e:4236:5dbf:1ba6] (helo=inauditus) by hillenius.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1snvR2-00H1x4-1C; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:13 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C4=B3s?= Hillenius In-Reply-To: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300") Organization: Using Emacs' Org Mode References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> OpenPGP: id=340F F9A4 8F6C 18FD D032 0C33 ABA1 CB30 E997 A3AF X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Sid Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87plpcyn6g.fsf@hillenius.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, A little late, as the bug was closed. I think this bug also applies to my set-up. My Gnus has these time-outs, all the time, and, I agree with Eric it started with Emacs 29 (Debian). I can perhaps contribute logs, if needed. 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My Gnus has these time-outs, > all the time, and, I agree with Eric it started with Emacs 29 (Debian). Possibly bug#52735 (which I continue to experience) is also related. Steve Berman