From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 22:33:17 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 02:33:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEj-0007CU-2s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:17 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEg-0007CL-PR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEd-0005hh-2Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:11 -0400 Received: from fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.149]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPvEZ-00012J-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:10 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B341380616 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:33:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pretzelnet.org; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1720233184; x=1720319584; bh=FvukqCpkRSHpeCfKMo22sUsdRE8iGHfS pGW554U2OkE=; b=KzPjjNcbSPoNFfsfBZjqrU09HZQenbE77lNlumfMi8REFV1Z MOUZbO37kHdmF02L1fVBa98DEuNWK4jOkwPmSg21OgxdoaVxqGkME8A8H7dXexAg 5N+Q9RjMkOjTPScWgAPY4yoNzvUE0wYmjXwLuCj/+UOGnCI/snwCh6+DdkvxobO4 54/RJfRg37GIhoMwRx6rJVYKpQZCBxpTrCsnUFd09UBHPdhrk3d81Pex047JxriY 3vUqtneOB4u+KCpGyjcjCE9gHY974lGIQzcfTFRcHdKLZPjyMNPRk/rKNFUwOs/C kiir52l656IHeG0IoJH9Vavzleidv/S9LtiAwQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1720233184; x=1720319584; bh=FvukqCpkRSHpeCfKMo22sUsdRE8iGHfSpGW 554U2OkE=; b=SrOO+eoY/N8i2wI2IZxSbKR7z3iJq3EHa45CoEtXM/OROfePoyQ zaiqNmq2uthIOzByOXvXKcXmWx2VAH2lyi7s62WA9onZ6eGVCCGvjcucXlI+jHed glmB5GBVIz3O3Euis2N3X+j2e1j1pbqcfMAzD8BPOkUh9q9JEop5Ox9VtlBxfgGb 8ihcCmN/2xd1YEZCY7RivOIBB2flsPFffW3pK/ti+ETt2qkMJ3djJtXYIO7tPVp7 Oic8WtU7wt/Vzz9FfHp3/an0e16GJGjA8M9/Qp5TLHzxNSEdjexdIsAx/WWaOt9K TrWun2kvlEdaQfIO+pLB3/8EYm/9w8le9vA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvddvgdehlecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfgfgggtsehttdertddtre dtnecuhfhrohhmpegvphhgsehprhgvthiivghlnhgvthdrohhrghenucggtffrrghtthgv rhhnpeeihfekteeikeduiefhhffhffevheetudeiheffjeegheehtdekfefgvdduffehgf enucffohhmrghinhepfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvghpghesphhrvghtiigvlhhnvghtrdhorh hg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i58794908:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: epg@pretzelnet.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=103.168.172.149; envelope-from=epg@pretzelnet.org; helo=fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) II I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can figure it out before I can track it down. GNUS is configured like so: #+begin_src elisp (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") gnus-secondary-select-methods '( (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-record-commands t) ) ) ) #+end_src What happened: 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this is a new post-29.x regression. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more quickly, that would be great :). Thanks! Expected results: Back at the *Group* buffer. Actual results: Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time I type 'q': nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). But here's what I found when I finally looked: #+begin_example 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE #+end_example In GNU Emacs 30.0.60 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-06-27 built on dogato Repository revision: c477443ab80a087a94c357f3fe5fd62c97e6f6ab Repository branch: emacs-30 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101012 System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/opt/emacs-30.0.60.2.c477443ab80 --disable-silent-rules --with-x-toolkit=athena --without-sqlite3 --without-lcms2 --without-libsystemd --without-imagemagick --with-json --with-tree-sitter --without-xft --without-libotf --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-xaw3d --without-gpm --without-dbus --without-gconf --without-gsettings --without-selinux --without-compress-install --with-x' Configured features: CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: server-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 Message-Id: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: epg@pretzelnet.org, Eric Abrahamsen In-Reply-To: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> (epg@pretzelnet.org) Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > figure it out before I can track it down. > > GNUS is configured like so: > > #+begin_src elisp > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > gnus-secondary-select-methods > '( > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > (nnimap-stream ssl) > (nnimap-record-commands t) > ) > ) > ) > #+end_src > > What happened: > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > is a new post-29.x regression. > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > quickly, that would be great :). > > Thanks! > > Expected results: > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > Actual results: > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > I type 'q': > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > #+begin_example > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > #+end_example Thank you for your report. Eric, can you please look into this? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 20 05:44:26 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2024 09:44:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6dd-00081m-P2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6db-00081U-GH for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sV6dV-0001tR-7y; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=LsaygdM6FYjHbFNFA5EtpUA7OlpV/yGhK23HsiX44/U=; b=ZJyZmLloZyUP Zg0lEQpEsyW/Dzu1Wh7Gv8l9jcSOGyF3y9TCTZCsjgiYJMxyirUoPmj/HiInjPWC1r68DX4BnmAEH 6irtsIo7zyLFXl2rzeGH57NVDcQ8OfrtXtLF3E8AEk8Q33zCj82h0jRZGR2Vczyu3jGtI4gGcqAGE 4jfmQ8uZA52z6CkKUfGUUviOlfo/7r7o7p4JmKDjuhz6h5IeNbRMgBkdCgNB8uI5MDqrjNtP1RWXe UD5iKAj6eCMbcmlOZsc4dRCr78RvEjQTdrYNMGVj/ibGkNI29Ti9xjZ25J9t3IJhTq4V3QwQ1M7zO ro52BN4hRtg30tw/dcPDEA==; Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 Message-Id: <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net In-Reply-To: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > '( > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > ) > > ) > > ) > > #+end_src > > > > What happened: > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Expected results: > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > Actual results: > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > I type 'q': > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > #+begin_example > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > #+end_example > > Thank you for your report. > > Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 04 03:53:51 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2024 07:53:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3q-0004tP-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3n-0004t0-N3 for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1saW3L-0002wT-H9; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 03:53:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UsKl5gSgGdNhENS0Z9dtlH4J9LIuwTCJSxYW84PJhtc=; b=Kf5TZtkqRYni MPr9dnxheKqkIanWGxVOd52dekPsnDqGqZyA4YxZkk+3DfJ5yGgmI423P0/qqGewjc7NNW2fyxJfr BWGBJeL+F6783iPd8wAagfNY2ISheSvhjc0W5W9gbQy8a1klrmcKcM2tgXb5UE3cdXuhnxBFV8Rix Z4bwRLNLmjQq4Ek7VdObH/oUEXW+8TSD7E8Tyn6yExnSSkxJdlhpTafdhxIIzlqBej7E+5o7KondO RLFluzUEoSDvDA5jcOrAEoHRLlxWbBzlaUBikbTVZ6qJt1po8BDpFgqKCQA1wixI92r/hAKY06wxQ Nli6T3MSZe+9pynu6RGwjw==; Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300 Message-Id: <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net In-Reply-To: <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, can we please make some progress here? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > > '( > > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > > ) > > > ) > > > ) > > > #+end_src > > > > > > What happened: > > > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Expected results: > > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > > > Actual results: > > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > > I type 'q': > > > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > > > #+begin_example > > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > > #+end_example > > > > Thank you for your report. > > > > Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > > > > > > > > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 17 04:21:28 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2024 08:21:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEgi-0000eq-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:21:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEgg-0000eZ-IT for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:21:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfEfy-0003iw-FD; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 04:20:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RNZ49q2oZqt5TblucjND8gFtnlyYhwGDjNLgIcF8LG8=; b=JzSTe3H3XaNC 8xfHAN7TOQmZ0gS5iNa5SPlEa2sXGcMpJQrrC3+h2O3xwRMb+XyJk7ji6/QTiWr8DVh34jnt4HPY6 jkEK54To+XN5bXMxVKs4khiJ681ODVTamk4fpmZGRyWGYH1TxNWkld3MWYDbPLG+yalr4/BWH3tVh khRWJaDHGzoeDJRQIGlsDPBvFyvWvJvDx6ZdsOW+7Djo3TrF6VNU5loEAdHAjtqh3MqTePf39UrTW WpbY7TX1lGLDJh9zKs9qMdx25wNWeBTOAGt7E6giyCUgiwhQplXIg5Chayg1liyT7aL3m2QmCs+to CRSiXrI8EvCRC8xz6CnpuQ==; Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:20:36 +0300 Message-Id: <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: eric@ericabrahamsen.net In-Reply-To: <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ping! Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, are you there? > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:53:16 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Ping! Ping! Ping! Eric, can we please make some progress here? > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:44:13 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > Ping! Ping! Eric, can you please look into this? > > > > > Cc: 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300 > > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > > > > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > > > > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:33:01 -0500 > > > > > > > > I'm going to have a hard time reproducing this one. I'm not > > > > giving up, but I'm also reporting early in case someone can > > > > figure it out before I can track it down. > > > > > > > > GNUS is configured like so: > > > > > > > > #+begin_src elisp > > > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "") > > > > gnus-secondary-select-methods > > > > '( > > > > (nnimap "imap.fastmail.com" > > > > (nnimap-stream ssl) > > > > (nnimap-record-commands t) > > > > ) > > > > ) > > > > ) > > > > #+end_src > > > > > > > > What happened: > > > > > > > > 1. Reading some mail; Summary and Article buffer open > > > > 2. Walk away for a while; laptop falls asleep > > > > 3. Wake it up and press 'q' to return to the *Group* buffer > > > > > > > > Note that I've always left GNUS hanging like this, and probably > > > > with laptops going to sleep for at least 20 years. I think this > > > > is a new post-29.x regression. > > > > > > > > If anyone has any suggestions on how I can reproduce it more > > > > quickly, that would be great :). > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Expected results: > > > > Back at the *Group* buffer. > > > > > > > > Actual results: > > > > Still in the Summary buffer, with this error shown for every time > > > > I type 'q': > > > > > > > > nnimap-send-command: Buffer *nnimap imap.fastmail.com nil *nntpd** has no process > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I didn't think to check the debug log buffer until > > > > after I pressed 'q' a lot of times and finally guessed that maybe > > > > 'n' to fetch another message might wake things back up (it did). > > > > But here's what I found when I finally looked: > > > > > > > > #+begin_example > > > > 19:39:31 [imap.fastmail.com] 610 UID FETCH 40517 BODY.PEEK[] > > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 611 NOOP > > > > 19:55:57 [imap.fastmail.com] 612 NOOP > > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 613 NOOP > > > > 21:10:18 [imap.fastmail.com] 614 NOOP > > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 615 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:10:26 [imap.fastmail.com] 616 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:10:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 617 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:11:25 [imap.fastmail.com] 618 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:11:34 [imap.fastmail.com] 619 EXPUNGE > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] (inhibited) > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 621 CAPABILITY > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 622 ENABLE QRESYNC > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 623 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 624 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:35 [imap.fastmail.com] 625 UID FETCH 40380 BODY.PEEK[] > > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 626 SELECT "INBOX" > > > > 21:14:37 [imap.fastmail.com] 627 UID STORE 40380 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) > > > > 21:14:38 [imap.fastmail.com] 628 EXPUNGE > > > > #+end_example > > > > > > Thank you for your report. > > > > > > Eric, can you please look into this? 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Maybe it was a freak, less-than-once-a-decade occurrence. Thanks! -- Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 17 14:15:32 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2024 18:15:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNxc-0000KI-1R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:15:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNxa-0000Jz-8F for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:15:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfNwq-000723-6Z; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 14:14:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=J+Z6yfz4+7m1HDObkBZizaSwHS/8+R3eetnEpUrB8hg=; b=NMgjbA+aO99k FUwMvb0/6EoJuMyNQAZEhqPfVscSW9NhuIz+GXpinrbf4BkRXJMxrOJ7QzZwaFG9porcyW4o9xcDN NfjrcZwP0tBIC+NnIkuxMXj1LMJTkRU3laDlYZ7mrl3liEZZppb+88LgQplEN9b7tdvk/TUL4HqWc CwQwiBJ7FZMFCyJv5lkNEVSnTHu88pSLBg6y5B0FAGK2dyiZol3yXCt1E+hRzpYeseShRtou5JBGf cTp5/fTeXfFmotmVmTKpc1XKRlSkQ3ZthOQHNWun460Y5pRZ+2msiLLmjWKOAQkpxM/z6c7NiTQ4a Zv4i35yqSTr/s0Vo3gcy5g==; Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 21:14:42 +0300 Message-Id: <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: epg@pretzelnet.org In-Reply-To: <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> (epg@pretzelnet.org) Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: epg@pretzelnet.org > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:38:04 -0500 > > I have never reproduced it. Maybe it was a freak, > less-than-once-a-decade occurrence. Are you saying we should close this? 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I think closing it makes sense. I can't reproduce it, and no other reports seem to have come in. Clearly there was a bug, but if it's triggered this rarely, there's probably nothing to do. Thanks! -- Eric Gillespie <*> epg@pretzelnet.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 18 18:08:12 2024 Received: (at 71965-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2024 22:08:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56935 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfo4J-0004At-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:08:12 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f41.google.com ([209.85.208.41]:60806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sfo4H-0004Ad-6m for 71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 18:08:10 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5bd13ea7604so4499619a12.1 for <71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1724018782; x=1724623582; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=o/I7qU2cPRkm6blki4yvtYgtrOj82B+0IOQcWttehSI=; b=hOGFQJsF58DYZl/IvVaHWxPF79slsIb8tll43sO/7RFbZxPPe0L+a9j+9o2CxwDHaM nAOgfOn5wpE08WxFWX/DGM7FTw2QPDfZaHa82anP++3Wwx7HFLpconkVqYSjz78eVJLN yPSINOgO9IZfdnd3LPfzASzfaah/NHCeitq9Gv8zxO2cUSYPS5u8Y1ba6y3zbNdozLPi ztv2h2P10zr40Yn2nby6zHD4XJcbNNMSdCnPmcgmnbXvEXoaHyqrWmaKm23ORgWbM4TT ll30Grva67E0IYXgrLp8auuYmKjmEVjfZ6be3IhwHG8qVfcXJ/sTqGpmuDnJbJw3Klj8 7TPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724018782; x=1724623582; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=o/I7qU2cPRkm6blki4yvtYgtrOj82B+0IOQcWttehSI=; b=IynMD/ca+CrtRk6JZGyiRCx/lj2QYSfQSutpsIgIfKOdaR0rq3+rUlw2B8a9vsFK0y MDImHBzVnNVFQJsrcG/kIHZO79PtouMAIwyhF0aHCRTh4+TBs1A1Z84v4x3/nc4l7BzO 4jSPS8PK84XB8N1SCNGLlvvR1pZg+HuV4bfgWAyCnm3ZFnu+bUtntd0F04kqdV3ohXHK Fp6NhaISMRRbcwcpVfVqIFbmm1XbGXQ3KhVpMmzpyqQvn+l4zTVi1xVYaQNLHalrUhIf b1rQBz1CeV3DMuE54x0QLnLfMMEdj0CIWFq+riBvhfcM+k0C5T2A4SI4+OBxG9eBCGq2 pxDg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUah2uVg+CAYZ5tvWfbuSU+oa6XWy0IEpP8VuAzs71QNQQEsxesIw7feqasuPo8KHl4mTl93ATAxdDkUZlvHImqXXPDbL1daQHXWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNb6RcZzYiEtYan+WbufgiBkr9xe4zyyXPSHBh1a8ikpTBh9jp W//6KCu/DubfPtrQ3WTz1Dz3RebCLHP5vtkpj9WVwiBbKVoQhHHWsyqIZq1AINGB5f/RJUeVT1c EevDdfRB8Wyy9HCZjce9k28EdE3EQFobF X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFtgFyWXGFnMUEJgYElefex3wx8NeG2WwfJp1EtHJzfMSgyLp4hAm5Ko45wEmUppiKIixjnrqd8fcmYhY6mMyE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:510e:b0:5be:ead2:db86 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5beead2dea6mr2156662a12.5.1724018781868; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87zfp9r9pl.fsf@pretzelnet.org> References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634o4e6tu.fsf@gnu.org> <861q34u3kj.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgf4l2j.fsf@gnu.org> <8734n3oxs3.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86ed6n10fh.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfp9r9pl.fsf@pretzelnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:06:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time To: epg@pretzelnet.org, Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965-done Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 71965-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) epg@pretzelnet.org writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Are you saying we should close this? > > I think closing it makes sense. > > I can't reproduce it, and no other reports seem to have come in. > > Clearly there was a bug, but if it's triggered this rarely, > there's probably nothing to do. > > Thanks! Thanks, I'm therefore closing this bug report. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 10 03:39:32 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2024 07:39:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvTI-0002he-6H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:39:32 -0400 Received: from hillenius.net ([144.76.204.189]:60360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvTH-0002hX-0F for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:39:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hillenius.net; s=hillenius; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aO83N4Wy2F4PevyGTxt6XyRT8x0cLmqRSg1D6c25pPE=; b=nDBrHT26GpU0Q2eud2G0z1slIT Ni39SxnzaLFzXxiFa3ERpEPZE1LmauY0L6Zg7f+Aw6V09LVj6P2b3r3CdqiTenfyRkMIjiwuGhDJI kKySyJIA7H5XbPQD2igwzTH3up4gG66D9/DzbIBL15w67Le7mYMhM+sF5vDJD6aqNArg=; Received: from [2a02:a03f:6b1e:ff01:836e:4236:5dbf:1ba6] (helo=inauditus) by hillenius.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1snvR2-00H1x4-1C; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:13 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?G=C4=B3s_Hillenius?= To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time In-Reply-To: <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:38:22 +0300") Organization: Using Emacs' Org Mode References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> OpenPGP: id=340F F9A4 8F6C 18FD D032 0C33 ABA1 CB30 E997 A3AF X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Sid Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87plpcyn6g.fsf@hillenius.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, epg@pretzelnet.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, A little late, as the bug was closed. I think this bug also applies to my set-up. My Gnus has these time-outs, all the time, and, I agree with Eric it started with Emacs 29 (Debian). I can perhaps contribute logs, if needed. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 10 03:57:44 2024 Received: (at 71965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2024 07:57:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvkt-0003ce-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:57:44 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:55413) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snvkr-0003cQ-8A for 71965@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:57:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1725955032; x=1726559832; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=rr9ApVBrrEBWB1g/nWJuAoJnPF+FKEfeeRj0IgzZa1o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=eYund1uzRrHrstLNwkozbW0YWqdNUpjcsP2H/35TTG7MI/MKgR6+t7OLQx3yqxNE iTM7gTvULL2RBq6+aLnc22/t6WwkJvGsbVU3Num5H+mB/EnXAta1ZVcRSOqqoa9SZ wDTiUqkyDFNsrBz1Wu+qaU02WBwSRuZfHWounZSOPKRD+6BYo/F0Hyn40W7Qkx0rd PvhkgfWt58psqpMqnzBztahrqfDJzN83j+zzmC0JMFEYgJuodvTtV0ESMLQNguu+a HovR08ghWk3YzE2eUnkwpc0o8VrUjPyCwLfMgj4XYHt3fpwP+TQAmAgrsuCfVkrQC B4I/xCkEkGBYcTKS0w== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfs ([94.134.94.184]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOiHl-1sNiHn185H-00RFfD; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:57:12 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: =?utf-8?Q?G=C4=B3s?= Hillenius Subject: Re: bug#71965: 30.0.60; '*nntpd** has no process' after left idle for a long time In-Reply-To: <87plpcyn6g.fsf@hillenius.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22G=C4=B3s?= Hillenius"'s message of "Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:11 +0200") References: <87cynrdzc2.fsf@pretzelnet.org> <86o77b58kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87plpcyn6g.fsf@hillenius.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:57:08 +0200 Message-ID: <878qw06iwb.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4cLe/l18GMcuCzve/EcfzLKDKX3gQG4FORykmrSGWnHAVu4K2dT cRTGJaPEsw7k4Vj52YP5C3uB4x3BM10YhIiracOpBP/zQEB2rKwvLoPrytIVSZVZlowiqJr UNztFjGtC10OP758Bnsbq47AVGaLaLww2WDMnalf4kPxvc7O3USnWPmvUo7g0hyuyAjfloc jqrIqFyBBe6s+5wdlGzpw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:/vwAACjF93U=;KPdna6bk1CrjJyTlEfaZy5cSGMm vwz2OFa0dqBHDbbK/z6ObsjC9uGRhbExdi6sflsfjiSS2sE00UlpbT4RFSJMnJviQKFdAZG/G YFfs13shj11/yGISwxGX7Y1ww2LdwnLYd2mFg+hKrlqsnAPIUfgcRhRnPlQfYvSRyooI7K68I frhNWemSKZCqI/Eh4eSwXEtY+0VIMK7k/LMIfK/7W/89nJ53RgboghBik280po42cyOADcERi 6yLBky2cJLSTQzx5HojQMt5H52THQsWPmSiCOMIFr0TnW7IOXhiGIemBFP3oFMilEjL8c8Pvl NTNzXAka/3szxPv25X3XE9DBoelRNIpQq7dZ/555GSopwYvPEVIJ1Qk2jKOQxp4eTn5i3OG6m 6CKgyjyH0+qwaDCIMiapgIbCIw+kSct6DmpyPyrC5rgBzFvfPKVSQrjdeEUwR0ib/C0BW8ez0 jsZC8bdY4y6Nylvx50rx1SKDU9ovOpI51Nxd817rU5ZgHTrO3ejOTErcqEgpEWaKLZyjSdxk/ 9yQyfmCGJKmtll0i9rEVlxyvP2BHWmkVc+vXuN9dKbM4lYX4XfEeYu221yPYAeJ8/ggZTjHGz d1xUYKhCwTU0vXhJnkzcoz4qXZEwIEYtk0uoiJQU7uaQwJ+6V1Vz5FRnSyAXt2ZM5bkUUShjX VwiSf1RkirpFHOaKs6WQhEEvXiIuzldPkl73HvphNb9nAEvQsHEu3FtVhr4tPpMM1wH8R6dvB hVreeVpEaDUcLtH4vi38/tEQ0/KK/u8qydA0onN7m7mJnkSfbxB19NnUp28GKYp/RdvbosweB ifbJR3T8qhhOpbCY3fn0YF5A== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71965 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 71965@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , epg@pretzelnet.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:37:11 +0200 G=C4=B3s Hillenius = wrote: > Hi, > > A little late, as the bug was closed. > > I think this bug also applies to my set-up. My Gnus has these time-outs, > all the time, and, I agree with Eric it started with Emacs 29 (Debian). Possibly bug#52735 (which I continue to experience) is also related. Steve Berman From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:14:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 11:24:14 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator