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30.0.60: "'wheel-up/down/left/right' events" in suboptimal place in NEWS?

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.60: "'wheel-up/down/left/right' events" in suboptimal place in
 NEWS?
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:20:35 -0700

Severity: minor

This item in NEWS is under "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in
Emacs 30.1".

    ** Mwheel
    The 'wheel-up/down/left/right' events are now bound unconditionally,
    and the 'mouse-wheel-up/down/left/right-event' variables are thus used
    only to specify the 'mouse-4/5/6/7' events that might still
    happen to be generated by some old packages (or if 'mouse-wheel-buttons'
    has been set to nil).

Would it be happier somewhere else?  Mouse wheel support is a very basic
editor feature, so it doesn't seem to belong under "specialized" modes
and packages.

However, I'm not sure to what extent this is a user-facing feature.
Perhaps it should be under Lisp Changes?

Message #10 received at 71830-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 71830-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71830: 30.0.60: "'wheel-up/down/left/right' events" in
 suboptimal place in NEWS?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:13:07 +0300

> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> gnu.org>
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:20:35 -0700
> 
> Severity: minor
> 
> This item in NEWS is under "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in
> Emacs 30.1".
> 
>     ** Mwheel
>     The 'wheel-up/down/left/right' events are now bound unconditionally,
>     and the 'mouse-wheel-up/down/left/right-event' variables are thus used
>     only to specify the 'mouse-4/5/6/7' events that might still
>     happen to be generated by some old packages (or if 'mouse-wheel-buttons'
>     has been set to nil).
> 
> Would it be happier somewhere else?  Mouse wheel support is a very basic
> editor feature, so it doesn't seem to belong under "specialized" modes
> and packages.
> 
> However, I'm not sure to what extent this is a user-facing feature.
> Perhaps it should be under Lisp Changes?

I moved it.

Message #13 received at 71830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 71830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#71830: 30.0.60: "'wheel-up/down/left/right' events" in
 suboptimal place in NEWS?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:12:20 +0800

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Severity: minor
>
> This item in NEWS is under "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in
> Emacs 30.1".
>
>     ** Mwheel
>     The 'wheel-up/down/left/right' events are now bound unconditionally,
>     and the 'mouse-wheel-up/down/left/right-event' variables are thus used
>     only to specify the 'mouse-4/5/6/7' events that might still
>     happen to be generated by some old packages (or if 'mouse-wheel-buttons'
>     has been set to nil).
>
> Would it be happier somewhere else?  Mouse wheel support is a very basic
> editor feature, so it doesn't seem to belong under "specialized" modes
> and packages.
>
> However, I'm not sure to what extent this is a user-facing feature.
> Perhaps it should be under Lisp Changes?

100% agreement.  Please make this so.

Message #16 received at 71830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 71830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#71830: 30.0.60: "'wheel-up/down/left/right' events" in
 suboptimal place in NEWS?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 05:33:05 -0700

Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Severity: minor
>>
>> This item in NEWS is under "Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in
>> Emacs 30.1".
>>
>>     ** Mwheel
>>     The 'wheel-up/down/left/right' events are now bound unconditionally,
>>     and the 'mouse-wheel-up/down/left/right-event' variables are thus used
>>     only to specify the 'mouse-4/5/6/7' events that might still
>>     happen to be generated by some old packages (or if 'mouse-wheel-buttons'
>>     has been set to nil).
>>
>> Would it be happier somewhere else?  Mouse wheel support is a very basic
>> editor feature, so it doesn't seem to belong under "specialized" modes
>> and packages.
>>
>> However, I'm not sure to what extent this is a user-facing feature.
>> Perhaps it should be under Lisp Changes?
>
> 100% agreement.  Please make this so.

Thanks, Eli has fixed it in commit 53dcf2b9492.

I subsequently moved some more items in commit c95066bf188.

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