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--000000000000b8abc9061bdf191e-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Ali M." , Corwin Brust Cc: 71801@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71801.17195004954487 (code B ref 71801); Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 71801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2024 15:01:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMqcw-0001AJ-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMqcu-0001A3-O0 for 71801@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMqcj-0000ng-2n; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=c1zJQKTFkv9T7cN+JMr88ruSVGM8p0wkEPTyMP11+aw=; b=abt/ZZfxgksL 0wPv39spVioI8mt1tSR+9GczCuYzVLVDLe0NTpe1mKqnpi5rgjhiNvbwPx0epqDVGC1tp6fuGRXIF yUfl+qBcdjq5ScW8Mp2QjZUceOXp0eQv2ncVnfBHOyyKrSUKcJPbIgj/bgjpdZKpR1Ba/UMw9Ox46 dV6ShwnWxvHdzGp30vfo0PURHz18eAyBZiqhjzU+nBmOnPsFDivw6BrU1zPm0eV7tHdkOec9uRF+Z tSSBNKqa77oqCaHYPCa6mmcJZkuGZlcP9DbVfz1St1Mv9+X96saLJQdOgRKKqHwbv48f8s8rfiYsE dtxkD3iXbxFPMmH1y8ooYg==; Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:00:34 +0300 Message-Id: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (tclwarrior@gmail.com) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Ali M." > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:27:51 -0400 > > Can you please provide the windows binaries for release 29.4 > > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-29/ Corwin (CC'ed) said he will do that when he has time. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Corwin Brust Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: "Ali M." , 71801@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71801.171952101415646 (code B ref 71801); Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 71801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2024 20:43:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMvxt-00044I-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:43:34 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f171.google.com ([209.85.222.171]:49521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMvxs-000445-9i for 71801@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:43:33 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-79c05313ec8so233571085a.3 for <71801@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719521003; x=1720125803; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=1R2mNmYPD/5SqM85Wvm1F8nkHRdyX8ETAYY+LvAXAfw=; b=a0+4YpF4B02XOPJqDECGMC/9iv5yoh1HWEovFTpIPPmfwzLv8/X6Zprb0aYCFASr6S Ibv+XU8NQoF02DYFC276BokzxNmjB47Fti50ImiEpXCAQPaj8SBMX0K25Ktgbuhn0RYr X1pLE21Khfkwo2Xd6St1aGFBeWClkG3zzZKUiFL2zEtAgcYM/ijZ6hfwrB5qPD0EqguB 9DNZER3DUz6GU0SLmMBWMPstq1V1F1xeo43b2sSTCcFxltY45oltQOHFWGpiZojwf+1y iFo7h2fq/XpRkwL+BSgZrI15JrJ4kpg9q0Jb2KKdx4NYA8e25TY/jNNQfAJDZy1uNtn3 p13A== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVOK5d2GaarTUswCHpKpH86CQ028VulDyzHoiYBtC9NGb9gFyuNG0RJreZSWjCNQWr6cFohGa/Go1YyzhL5tlPMzU2Bwpc= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwYFR0F0XqtEkUrM2JxnsGyFfYhB8XpRGEftfJ/8rxnIi7mOF+U vu8FZSe7FswosjYuldIZSLX5kkB2Dxu/FKsyOxzrrLQOeE5Iq638aXzWZyj4/AEi5+XgErUnxm5 ICOv9iQwTVzIdBV0zN2RpTzI9UOuX+i7k X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGSeP/Hu/8actMzL4K6UgoTpj15euAatI1mLLmrCTR1ll57QAEUb83d1dQaM7VtLLv7BYqIXrcUwL8HcMGQfDs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:d14d:b0:24f:d12a:5f1c with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-25d017fdebdmr12828460fac.53.1719516866978; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:34:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Corwin Brust Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:34:14 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000aaaeb061be438c9" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) --0000000000000aaaeb061be438c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I return from overseas July 3rd. I will publish ASAP upon my return. I don't have any machine running windows with me. On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 16:00 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: "Ali M." > > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:27:51 -0400 > > > > Can you please provide the windows binaries for release 29.4 > > > > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-29/ > > Corwin (CC'ed) said he will do that when he has time. > > > > --0000000000000aaaeb061be438c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I return from overseas July 3rd.=C2=A0 I will publish ASA= P upon my return.=C2=A0 I don't have any machine running windows with m= e.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 16:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
&g= t; From: "Ali M." <tclwarrior@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:27:51 -0400
>
> Can you please provide the windows binaries for release 29.4
>
> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows= /emacs-29/

Corwin (CC'ed) said he will do that when he has time.



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Thanks for your kind words, as always. This is completed and I'm able to see the binaries for Emacs 29.4 from the (primary) FTP. https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-29/?C=3DM;O=3DD TIA for confirmation these work for others, given which this report can be closed. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 16:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Corwin Brust Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "71801@debbugs.gnu.org" <71801@debbugs.gnu.org>, "Ali M." 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aW4gYSBmYWlybHkgaGVhdnktaGFuZGVkIHdheS4NCg== From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 18:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: tclwarrior@gmail.com, corwin@bru.st, 71801@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 71801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71801.172020409426985 (code B ref 71801); Fri, 05 Jul 2024 18:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 71801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2024 18:28:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44982 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPnfJ-00071B-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2024 14:28:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59808) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 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Adams on Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:04:40 +0000) References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > CC: Eli Zaretskii , Ali M. , > "71801@debbugs.gnu.org" <71801@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:04:40 +0000 > > Thanks, Corwin. I started it with a Windows > shortcut that uses "Target:" > > Z:\path\to\bin\runemacs.exe -Q --debug-init "w:\path\to\a\dir" > > and that uses "Start in:" w:\path\to\a\dir > > It seems to start OK but I get this warning repeated > periodically (forever) in buffer *Warnings*: > > ■ Warning (comp): x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-11.3.0: fatal error: cannot execute 'as': CreateProcess: No such file or directory You need to install GNU Binutils, which is where as.exe, the GNU assembler, comes from. (If GCC that emits the above error message is part of the Emacs installation, then Corwin should make sure Binutils are part of the installation as well.) > I haven't noticed other problems yet (with -Q), but > is the continual emission of that warning expected? Yes. > Clicking that black, square icon pops up this > question as a menu: > > Suppress `comp' warnings? > _________________________ > > Yes, Ignore `Comp' Warnings Completely > No, Just Disable Showing Them > Quit And Do Nothing > > I have no idea what any of that means. It allows you to disable these warnings, so that they don't annoy you. > It doesn't seem very helpful - no link to any other info etc. I'm not sure I understand what other info is needed. The warning says Warning (comp): SOMETHING and the prompt asks about suppressing "comp" warnings, which fits the warning ID. You are showed 3 possible answers with the meaning of each one of them. What is not clear here? > I also notice that if I put point on that icon and > hit RET I get the question in the minibuffer, but > with the additional key `?' highlighted (no such > option in the menu version). > > I hit `?' and this is shown in buffer *Multiple > Choice Help*: > > Suppress `comp' warnings? > > y: yes, ignore `comp' n: no, just disable q: quit and do > warnings completely showing them nothing > > That "help" text seems worse than useless. It just repeats what was in the menu. > I guess this "help" is new UI intended to somehow > help users. To me it seems only to confuse and > obfuscate, and in a fairly heavy-handed way. If you think about it for a few moments, I'm sure you will see the light. It's really very simple. 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I will rebuild and republish ensuring those are omitted. I think that we do not want to distribute all of GCC with the Emacs binaries (nor do we want to distribute the corresponding source archives for MSYS' GCC, which may be more to the point). That said, I would be open to including GCC/GCCJIT (and thus binutils); I think that is little enough extra work for me but is simply more to store on the various GNU/FSF infrastructure backing FTP (and for all of the mirrors, of course). In any event, I'll republish. If we want to make adjustments to what ships with Emacs binaries for Windows we can take that on for Emacs 30. Much appreciate your looking into this so quickly (to say nothing of actually spotting problems, yey). 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Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:04:07 +0300 Message-Id: <86y16f5a5k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:33:21 +0000) References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> <861q477l1w.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > CC: "corwin@bru.st" , > "tclwarrior@gmail.com" > , > "71801@debbugs.gnu.org" <71801@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:33:21 +0000 > > > > It seems to start OK but I get this warning repeated > > > periodically (forever) in buffer *Warnings*: > > > > > > ■ Warning (comp): x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-11.3.0: fatal error: cannot > > execute 'as': CreateProcess: No such file or directory > > > > You need to install GNU Binutils, which is where as.exe, the GNU > > assembler, comes from. > > Why? It's needed for JIT native compilation of Lisp. > > > I haven't noticed other problems yet (with -Q), but > > > is the continual emission of that warning expected? > > > > Yes. > > Why is that a good thing to do? It isn't supposed to happen in a working Emacs installation. Its absence is like the absence of dired.el/dired.elc: it should not happen. So by default Emacs warns about it every time it wants to natively compile a file. > > > Clicking that black, square icon pops up this > > > question as a menu: > > > > > > Suppress `comp' warnings? > > > _________________________ > > > > > > Yes, Ignore `Comp' Warnings Completely > > > No, Just Disable Showing Them > > > Quit And Do Nothing > > > > > > I have no idea what any of that means. > > > > It allows you to disable these warnings, so that they don't annoy you. > > Sure. But _what are_ `Comp' warnings? They are the warnings labeled 'comp', as in the warning you've shown. > How is someone to know whether they might want to (or need to) > ignore, disable, or do nothing? By reading the warnings, understanding what they say and mean, and deciding what to do with them. It's a user decision. Isn't it you that always requests to let the users the freedom of deciding how to deal with non-trivial situations? That's what Emacs does there. > Expecting someone to decide which to do makes > no sense if they have no idea what the meaning > or consequences are (beyond not seeing msgs). We expect our users to understand the warnings and make the above decision, yes. > Warnings should be for things that you need to > be WARNed about. If this is one such thing, > then we should tell users what the "this" is. > > ***** > WARNING - there's a FOOBAR in the vicinity! > Quick! What do you want to do about it? > ***** That's an unfair comparison. The warning in question did tell you what was the problem: a specific program was missing or could not be found. > > Warning (comp): SOMETHING > > > > and the prompt asks about suppressing "comp" warnings, which fits the > > warning ID. You are showed 3 possible answers with the meaning of > > each one of them. What is not clear here? > > Nothing is clear. I'm a user. I didn't build > Emacs. I see this: > > x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-11.3.0: fatal error: cannot > execute 'as': CreateProcess: No such file or directory > > Is that a problem? I'm warned about it, so I > guess maybe it is. Is it a problem that I'm > expected, and that I can, do something about? > If so, what needs to be done? What needs to be done is find out why GCC could not fine 'as', and fix that. Alternatively, you can just shut up the warnings if you don't want to know about that. See the text popped up by the GUI dialog or shown by '?' that explains how to deal with that warning. > > > I also notice that if I put point on that icon and > > > hit RET I get the question in the minibuffer, but > > > with the additional key `?' highlighted (no such > > > option in the menu version). > > > > > > I hit `?' and this is shown in buffer *Multiple > > > Choice Help*: > > > > > > Suppress `comp' warnings? > > > > > > y: yes, ignore `comp' n: no, just disable q: quit and do > > > warnings completely showing them nothing > > > > > > That "help" text seems worse than useless. > > > > It just repeats what was in the menu. > > And you're just repeating what I reported. > Why have the `?' and `RET' binding, which > just repeats the text you're clicking `?' > for help about? It adds some information about the possible responses, something that in the case of clicking is already shown in the dialog Emacs pop up. > `?', like an `i' Information icon, should > tell you something different, or something > more, than the text you're already looking at. And it does. Of course, if you already clicked on the icon, you already have seen the same information, but users can press RET right away, e.g. if they don't have a mouse or don't use it. > If you think about it for a few moments, I > hope you'll see it's either misguided or > it's missing something. > > We get a "security fix" point release, and > the first thing seen is an indecipherable, > continually popped-up scary WARNING. No > help from Emacs to understand what's involved - > what the danger/problem is, or what to do > about it. > > And your response is that this is all OK > and expected? No. My response was quite more than that. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Corwin Brust Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 10:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "71801@debbugs.gnu.org" <71801@debbugs.gnu.org>, "tclwarrior@gmail.com" Received: via spool by 71801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71801.17202601273122 (code B ref 71801); Sat, 06 Jul 2024 10:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 71801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 10:02:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45610 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ2F5-0000oI-Bh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:02:07 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:59532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ2F3-0000oA-CE for 71801@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:02:06 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-7035a3b396aso635419a34.2 for <71801@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 03:02:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1720260121; x=1720864921; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EWkn6pZb89FDvkdTG99YwyvNyxeeLTrBobjub2uwdk8=; b=jBNxJRxEkY3j2AtmeK3haUuz7uPed4L8kLoWPvRoKoy+yHnW0hK17CNzl+R11HgaVc /yT2LDzly2KaPAYUGJzvUtT7+517AKWaIyAH9y7icY1dlVDxLN9SnOu3IXyjeZnwIiT6 vId+BVawC5rTgFkRF8oq4Jn4hbdiZM2iyCENpMCUy6fNXNVube4UpfOQbvInBmu2cyc6 Vi5A/RzbG0swGaJO073UGuh41I1PQNo7yGF2abFzBuJrq+Hgimkjet7c5zt3i9jNNt1Y vAcJByBc3uibtPiyN7HKQrfPHUGqum6l6iWm6hfcuO2FAdRRYum6TG41K9xWwbfkykvq +0Aw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWpmOmlcDtpMgWzOYRVim/qBzQbfQd6Gr2+Cs/hXBZMFtKO1LkNLool0TFqVMNDC12wuBp9xIJ3hHhZyDhVVDVNWX7Ck5I= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzOCVU2PWX4rXyLAwIU628xphOt5t7KF/y8p5KZK12ADQGa1d5t NJqXzaijszJExWInGYDFkF6um18YMNHbkFCsbTyIk9p21UUayMn9VgeL5xOCgEDefMSJ8p5k9NE jnHT8mwiuhVN/OZMrzOu9UIGLnk4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGLUMPpM85bO3oLoNovJ4KMXaXWRUjBVy5JOREolNfP5Kakj40SzUYFjvD5zRCLDoScksnpmoBvpTWYW+2SmoQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:438e:b0:703:5db8:805 with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-7035db8193cmr3290676a34.4.1720260120994; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 03:02:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> <861q477l1w.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Corwin Brust Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:01:49 -0500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 4:52=E2=80=AFPM Corwin Brust wrote: > > I can see that I did include DLLs for GCC/GCCJIT with Emacs binaries > for Windows. I will rebuild and republish ensuring those are > omitted. I have now republished Emacs 29.4 binaries for Windows (excluding the -nodeps version which has not changed - the installer and "full" emacs-29.4.zip have had libgccjit-0.dll removed.). I have also added a sha256sum file, which I neglected to do initially. I think installing (or unzipping) one of these will resolve the issue but TIA for any contradiction (or reports of other issues encountered, of course). 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localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ89D-0005WG-Er for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 12:20:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ89A-0005W3-E3 for 71801@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 12:20:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ890-000441-EE; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 12:20:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wSBlLRyr/4QfnOwLxecOKJv/adZbdJgV0WD60rkep6g=; b=ayjYaUhLpZHF tqtjJTDcAa0qL1I3M1LnU+5RulDB5dnQk3NZZ2MLcvevfoM1V0pSv6IKtgBMPD+XwaTIPC23pI07L mBya593tGoDzEgJfocuV47/j73tK2cYB/XxeASRbC/m4AOb2Px64py7g4BQ0vpx8HrEgCqSUjF5BV 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> > > > > Why? > > > > It's needed for JIT native compilation of Lisp. > > Until now, there has been no requirement > to have anything that's needed to support > native compilation. Until now, Emacs just > ignored native compilation if the local > "infrastructure" to support it was missing. > > That approach was good. As Corwin explained already, he made a packaging mistake, whereby the "infrastructure" in support of native compilation was half-present and half-absent. > > > > > I haven't noticed other problems yet (with -Q), but > > > > > is the continual emission of that warning expected? > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Why is that a good thing to do? > > > > It isn't supposed to happen in a working Emacs installation. > > I see. You mean the warning itself, or > the need for a user to have whatever's > needed to support native compilation? Neither. What isn't supposed to happen is that you have GCC and libgccjit, but not Binutils. You should either have all of them, or none, then the silent fallback on byte-compiled code will work. What happened in your case is that Emacs found libgccjit, so it decided the native compilation was supported, but libgccjit choked when it actually tried to compile Lisp to native code. > > Its absence is like the absence of dired.el/dired.elc: it should not > > happen. So by default Emacs warns about it every time it wants to > > natively compile a file. > > So is it only a problem with the Emacs build, > or is Emacs considering that the user's > context is inadequate and the user needs to > do something to remedy that? It depends on the user. If the user is the one who set up the development and run-time environment, then the user should fix it to be fully operable. If the user just installed a binary distro, he/she should take this up to whoever produced the distro. > > > > > Clicking that black, square icon pops up this > > > > > question as a menu: > > > > > > > > > > Suppress `comp' warnings? > > > > > _________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Ignore `Comp' Warnings Completely > > > > > No, Just Disable Showing Them > > > > > Quit And Do Nothing > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what any of that means. > > > > > > > > It allows you to disable these warnings, so that they don't annoy you. > > > > > > Sure. But _what are_ `Comp' warnings? > > > > They are the warnings labeled 'comp', as in the warning you've shown. > > So just as meaningless as if the label were 'foobar' > or 'guess-what-this-means'. No, not just as meaningless. > > > How is someone to know whether they might want to (or need to) > > > ignore, disable, or do nothing? > > > > By reading the warnings, understanding what they say and mean, and > > deciding what to do with them. It's a user decision. > > So this is a user problem, not an Emacs build > problem? (That's what user warnings are for.) It is a problem with the Emacs installation. Who should fix it depends on how and by whom Emacs was built and installed. Emacs itself cannot know that. > If so, that's the problem with the warning: > it's not comprehensible to many (most?) users. > The "user decision" can't be based on any real > understanding of what's involved (in this case). Users who don't understand the warning will do what they always do: search the Internet or ask on known forums. > > Isn't it you that always requests to let the > > users the freedom of deciding how to > > deal with non-trivial situations? > > Not by not making clear to them what they can > or need to decide, giving them the info needed > to do that. Which we did here. > > That's what Emacs does there. > > I don't see it that way. I don't understand > the message, and it sounds like someone needs > to know something about Emacs builds, its > dependencies, and perhaps native compilation. That's okay. Some warnings will invariably left not understood by some of the users, especially if they (users) lack background knowledge about what happens in that case. The usual remedy is to ask. > > That's an unfair comparison. The warning in question did tell you > > what was the problem: a specific program was missing or could not be > > found. > > What's the meaning/consequence of that program > being missing? If you know that Emacs compiles Lisp to native code, you will understand the meaning of the assembler program being absent. If you don't, you won't, and will have to ask or look around for answers. > > > x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-11.3.0: fatal error: cannot > > > execute 'as': CreateProcess: No such file or directory > > > > > > Is that a problem? I'm warned about it, so I > > > guess maybe it is. Is it a problem that I'm > > > expected, and that I can, do something about? > > > If so, what needs to be done? > > > > What needs to be done is find out why GCC could not fine 'as', and fix > > that. > > The warning doesn't tell users that they need to > do that, and _how_ to do it. It can't. There are gazillion reasons for the problem, each one with a different solution. One can write a small paper mentioning and explaining them all. It's impractical to expect Emacs to do that in a warning. What Emacs does here is point out that a certain required program is missing. It should be good enough to understand the problem, like it is good enough when Emacs says some file is missing. Or take this message as an example: Autoloading failed to define function SUCH-AND-SUCH Users who don't know what autoloading is or does will be unable to understand it or know how to fix it. Like in this case. > > > And your response is that this is all OK > > > and expected? > > > > No. My response was quite more than that. > > I'd say that the warning isn't very helpful > to many/most users who would encounter it - > unless it's never supposed to be seen and it > results from a faulty Emacs build and is not > really a user problem. > > For most users to understand and act on the > problem, I think the info communicated would > need to be much better. You are entitled to your views, but I don't share them. And I don't agree with your estimation of how many users won't understand what the warning says. (I also don't understand why we are still arguing when Corwin already explained why the problem happened, and already uploaded a fixed distribution.) 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If the user just installed a binary distro, he/she > should take this up to whoever produced the distro. ... > It is a problem with the Emacs installation. Who should fix it > depends on how and by whom Emacs was built and installed. Emacs > itself cannot know that. ... > Users who don't understand the warning will do what they always do: > search the Internet or ask on known forums. ... > > I don't understand the message, and it sounds > > like someone needs to know something about > > Emacs builds, its dependencies, and perhaps > > native compilation. >=20 > That's okay. Some warnings will invariably left not understood by > some of the users, especially if they (users) lack background > knowledge about what happens in that case. The usual remedy is to > ask. Thank you for the more complete explanation. Since there's no way for Emacs to know whether the user seeing such a warning is one kind or the other, consider including info such as this in the warning (or linked from it, if it needs to be a one-liner): There's a problem with this Emacs installation. If you installed a binary distro then please report it to whoever produced the distro. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "Ali M." Subject: bug#71801: closed (Re: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 71801 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 71801@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 16:50:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1720284602-24086-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1720284602-24086-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 71801@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 71801: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D71801 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1720284602-24086-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 71801-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 16:49:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ8bG-0006Fc-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 12:49:27 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f48.google.com ([209.85.210.48]:43378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ8bE-0006FO-TB for 71801-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 12:49:25 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f48.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-7035b717880so594788a34.1 for <71801-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1720284555; x=1720889355; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=U3wzE6jv/EysWHmNGYh4BytTRcyGHCW9AN12cbF0FCg=; b=mnyDaARZYJy/e9IFTjZq64AWY9K/aGLrt8jvdORo/L6rmzh1TtbBpSCnb6ENIupVbO DtRxVbpwYVSW4nVgHpxi4yin/FOpRvPVooOXHFqY2NlfqflINBcBXA3E1/OniYfVgY5F GPKMliggNYQKoQ3VZl203Quid8WJbYHYGF/grEf0TELmUN/r48SESDjVkGvkPd3n7Gfl lQ5JyQ92DonZyzI/q5DpDzbHFl3gPVEG0wEu2SJM0AqdKsQYqOVhdj0uCiLtA15UtlQL ZBkbkYZfPz1ETQoaEDWAVQqxcMPpMUlj8POM+YLC2tyb6Gjb8qAjZnXsJ3VdPhLELE/V O7Sg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUP63nK7MXejvepGn+6Bdn7Y5ezQ4dE1Nkt8ysaN+aa+yP9Mt6+IzyuZI8U3X5eekHw4QB7grxIwjtp05zSihrH3r6kyU7Yxyavpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx77V9ppKqJgVKbn5JgzlKKnhiaQHbAQprP9Wh5BXOJjx5Fnhir Qp6WT7WCoY5FeEvVyhwzIC7cIWlyF/1jyCn5H9rKs2odZ+5jBnt3lCQr9copbx7iGopAfjfSRL7 uc7JO4VFPA4aoNfmstYsbOQoKc78= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHLK14VTD/nEyzxSWyQ/w/I1IDwwx1mXvIJfwqmz1Gq179gqOw8KqqzTJtSSp53zuOc5VUiC+XSmnUdCZTz+zI= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:69c3:0:b0:703:6547:7280 with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-703654773bfmr366935a34.7.1720284555399; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> <861q477l1w.fsf@gnu.org> <86y16f5a5k.fsf@gnu.org> <86sewm332e.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Corwin Brust Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:49:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries To: Drew Adams Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71801-done Cc: 71801-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , "tclwarrior@gmail.com" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 11:33=E2=80=AFAM Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > > Since there's no way for Emacs to know whether > the user seeing such a warning is one kind or > the other, consider including info such as this > in the warning (or linked from it, if it needs > to be a one-liner): > > There's a problem with this Emacs installation. > If you installed a binary distro then please > report it to whoever produced the distro. > I think that's an intriguing suggestion. I wonder about challenging the premise a little: maybe Emacs could be made to understand the circumstances of compilation. For example, an option to configure (or make) could mung the value of some constant, expecting (e.g.) me to pass a certain value when making Emacs binaries for Windows for redistribution. I wonder if this would be used often enough to create more specific messages to be worth the bother, however. In any event, if you'd (anyone who would) like to discuss/request that (or just continue discussing the opportunity to add staticly to the messaging in this one case, please open a thread on devel (or new bug report); I've closed this one. ------------=_1720284602-24086-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2024 14:31:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMqA4-0005yK-MZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:31:45 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMpAZ-000148-Up for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:28:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMpAW-0003b4-Nn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:28:08 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-x52c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMpAV-0002na-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:28:08 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-710437d0affso5897480a12.3 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1719494883; x=1720099683; darn=gnu.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bcPKIGA9WrBg6w6QSVwH6DEwvWLMaUDC7A2dgoMgKZY=; b=LHEEhXZkDhOXrhk/82rYPg1pAuUFFXkJmwHobep60i/MY467i+KiCb9iqTh9F/O1+u BjNNRNHwChpXTBIh9T8jyqYZvZ2x/kE7ed41BYvzE1OPT2IwD9dn+Yo9sO8DZHbq7TYW sgqvaoGOGaz4Y8u7/pD0UzHeb0clv4l/UjE8fw7zKIMDXq9Ez+qdGOtbzusoWWj1OjgH xadhs/UQ8Hj+5xeSWfd8NKSH7qxyRSVkykhSZUyYLGRp0gEvpPmXOc+zWnkalF3ptTsW ZlyyzIw5UxZ70ESGGCw+vv8V9gRywswAV0LUAdUmwZmNiOAschZ8K65WnhpqiYULSYKH 7ejg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719494883; x=1720099683; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bcPKIGA9WrBg6w6QSVwH6DEwvWLMaUDC7A2dgoMgKZY=; b=Ri2WI2i6OiO5Bh39MIIJgPC7wXzULCRn9iPzlY5h5oImFqxxL72Vr/pT/jeraRDiBs cJJVsXKZ+vFjKaa/TAhnyeB+HtYjsHNzlLiQC9OhYcnVkvNori0rvv2UCfldguxq8AG3 wMUdp5nqLQsZ5+MDg970kxuEMi5RUc94rPhTF+ye/HzLfohQHWYfKLoBsnkNK/X8scWL Qz8AispkmFl33LZQWHCzSmbgvJmEfHY6o2lp0dSCkGime59pSmEM1kWAuTeeD0aw/ksg XCZjuDyRh+DhaSyuNamD8J9RBHxlkVXcF5yEG7Hw5JPKqt/1/jyG4tmUdRb3zR0ppDqz K8pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz2gGlIdqq3xVUQ9rdRQhK77Jq3om6S0MZP/aMrjd6egO427IkY iuan8C4W9WKXNDpG3HlXUXkn5rG9wEzXNO9JHO7uSdAAlXg264nmuK9f78ckBsh4ztXoCv7PhqH 65gv4J0tErxSC1rEuIPaTlOh1svLcpATt X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGuZzLUO+yjD5wzajgf2dG7i8SvWEFZRCZynB34gEV1V7Ro51PCED8Kh8Fs/DZQKqWlTELFgHV845P7R4MDsSw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:bca6:b0:1bd:2c36:afd4 with SMTP id adf61e73a8af0-1bd2c36b261mr5099904637.2.1719494883450; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:28:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ali M." Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:27:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: emacs 29.4 windows binaries To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b8abc9061bdf191e" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=tclwarrior@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:31:43 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --000000000000b8abc9061bdf191e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can you please provide the windows binaries for release 29.4 https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-29/ Regards Ali --000000000000b8abc9061bdf191e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--000000000000b8abc9061bdf191e-- ------------=_1720284602-24086-1-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:47:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#71801: emacs 29.4 windows binaries Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 17:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Corwin Brust Cc: tclwarrior@gmail.com, 71801@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 71801-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71801.172028680727814 (code B ref 71801); Sat, 06 Jul 2024 17:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 71801) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 17:26:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46714 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ9BP-0007EY-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:26:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ9BN-0007EJ-HE for 71801@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:26:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ9BD-0006Wx-Dz; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:26:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=+yEueOefK/d7ub+4gl112cwaRNVvJNNmMIZ9MV9iLHw=; b=I3Dx5Rb888h6D1506yJs 6GZP9kvm0mNSKUOc07EKyA/BjdFxp+zq9EaJA+YjrEquohKetc7zESNTL0LHdnNqTRSfTrrgR6a0s ZcHR5fPsr1wfOLolMQ6IWfUY8ho+22uIWqeM8oApO+2rx1rH2rim389VWOizCl0SZO0RAZoiD3zoP FFuKxELXVCFqkSXYE5FpqkCiu2UhjQnZ/4cjYg5JMenKpwdP+PrX6XE4Pw6e9jcRJmU8GdPatefnb pt2fOBsJMEWLbzVVwgZhiZLM45H3oWrG4n6hlRqa5Bt4aUf7yfu21P3jSQMVBAAe0QhoWClSIMUd3 d+MZoDFU94l4mg==; Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 20:26:32 +0300 Message-Id: <86o77a2zzr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Corwin Brust on Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:49:04 -0500) References: <86tthe4ei5.fsf@gnu.org> <861q477l1w.fsf@gnu.org> <86y16f5a5k.fsf@gnu.org> <86sewm332e.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Corwin Brust > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:49:04 -0500 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "tclwarrior@gmail.com" , 71801-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 11:33 AM Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU > Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors > wrote: > > > > Since there's no way for Emacs to know whether > > the user seeing such a warning is one kind or > > the other, consider including info such as this > > in the warning (or linked from it, if it needs > > to be a one-liner): > > > > There's a problem with this Emacs installation. > > If you installed a binary distro then please > > report it to whoever produced the distro. > > > > I think that's an intriguing suggestion. The problem, of course, is that the above is only close to the reality on MS-Windows, and only for users who don't already have a full-blown development environment based on GCC capable of compiling programs, independently of installing Emacs. In all other cases, problems such as this one will not be caused by the Emacs installation, and so saying "there's a problem with this Emacs installation" will be incorrect and misleading.