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29.3; Handling of nested directories of ELPA packages

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Message #8 received at 71789 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jeremy Bryant <jb <at> jeremybryant.net>
To: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>, 71789 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71789: 29.3; Handling of nested directories of ELPA packages
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:03:30 +0100

Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm opening a bug to follow up the discussion at [1].  Given an ELPA
> package `elpafoo' that contains another directory `elpabar' that also
> holds source files, e.g. like the structure below:
>
> ,----
> | ~/.config/emacs/elpa/elpafoo/
> | ~/.config/emacs/elpa/elpafoo/elpafoo.el
> | ~/.config/emacs/elpa/elpafoo/elpabar
> | ~/.config/emacs/elpa/elpafoo/elpabar/elpabar.el
> `----
>
> When installing through package.el, both elpafoo.el and
> elpabar/elpabar.el will be byte-compiled, but only the root source path
> `~/.config/emacs/elpa/elpafoo' is added to `load-path', without any of
> the nested directories.
>
> I wonder whether this is the intended behavior regarding `load-path'
> handling.  If nested directories are added, it has the advantage to
> allow more fine-grained source organization; as a downside, it may
> unnecessarily add more unneeded stuff and processing overhead (as
> Michael pointed out at [2]), and potentially break existing code,
> e.g. auctex, which seems to vendor stuff in the `style/' directories but
> not loaded so it's not causing any trouble yet.
>
> So I wonder what is the stance of the Emacs maintainer on this subject,
> or whether this is documented anywhere.  Also one more step: whether
> there is a recommended layout for source code organization for ELPA
> packages.
>
> [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-05/msg00658.html
> [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-05/msg01039.html
>
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38,
>  cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-05-20, modified by Debian built on sbuild
> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007
> System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
>
> Configured using:
>  'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
>  --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
>  --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
>  --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
>  --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/29.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/29.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
>  --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
>  --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
>  --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
>  --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
>  --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
>  --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/29.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/29.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
>  --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
>  --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes
>  --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
>  -ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/emacs-29.3+1=. -fstack-protector-strong
>  -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time
>  -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'
>
> Configured features:
> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
> JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES
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> THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2
> XPM GTK3 ZLIB
>
> Important settings:
>   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
>   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
>   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>
> Major mode: Lisp Interaction
>
> Minor modes in effect:
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>   magit-auto-revert-mode: t
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>   windmove-mode: t
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>   eldoc-mode: t
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>   mouse-wheel-mode: t
>   tool-bar-mode: t
>   tab-bar-mode: t
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>   font-lock-mode: t
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>   line-number-mode: t
>   transient-mark-mode: t
>   auto-composition-mode: t
>   auto-encryption-mode: t
>   auto-compression-mode: t
>
> Load-path shadows:
> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/debian-el-37.13/debian-autoloads hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/gnuplot-0.8.1/debian-autoloads
> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/magit-3.3.0/magit-section hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/magit-section-3.3.0/magit-section
>
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>
> Memory information:
> ((conses 16 4151836 235820)
>  (symbols 48 38894 35)
>  (strings 32 186143 40188)
>  (string-bytes 1 6165556)
>  (vectors 16 121009)
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>  (buffers 984 145))

Adding Philip who may have thoughts regarding ELPA structure.

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