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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1c13b91e51e70f168e738ee5bd39f1c8; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 14:14:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#71669: 30.0.50; macOS: `emacs --geometry` flag broken, only `-geometry` works In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:51:57 -0700") References: Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:14:13 +0800 Message-ID: <87msnf3dmy.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1042 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71669 Cc: 71669@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > On macOS, this has no effect on the size of the initial frame: > > emacs -Q --geometry 10x10 > > This works as expected though: > > emacs -Q -g 10x10 > emacs -Q -geometry 10x10 > > On GNU/Linux, all flags work as expected. > > > In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin23.5.0, NS > appkit-2487.60 Version 14.5 (Build 23F79)) of 2024-06-10 built on > foo.local > Repository revision: 33fc77e1b64dab2ed33757d8dae94e87e9e0fc0b > Repository branch: master > Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2487 > System Description: macOS 14.5 > > Configured using: > 'configure --enable-checking=yes,glyphs > --enable-check-lisp-object-type' Where is it documented that `--geometry' should be supported on all systems? Different windowing systems are each host to unique conventions that our command-line options are supposed to observe, and this item's being visibly excluded from list of such options for NS systems suggests that its omission is no accident. 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(info "(emacs) Window Size X") > Different windowing systems are each host to unique > conventions that our command-line options are supposed to observe, and > this item's being visibly excluded from list of such options for NS > systems suggests that its omission is no accident. As I explained, it works when I say `-geometry` (one dash), so this feature is already there. The only issue is that `--geometry` (two dashes) doesn't work. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d7d781a21e21b25d1dcf27dcd4d94d8c; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:22:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#71669: 30.0.50; macOS: `emacs --geometry` flag broken, only `-geometry` works In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 20 Jun 2024 12:15:16 -0400") References: <87msnf3dmy.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:22:22 +0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 577 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71669 Cc: 71669@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > Po Lu writes: > >> Where is it documented that `--geometry' should be supported on all >> systems? > > 1. man emacs > 2. (info "(emacs) Window Size X") Surely the name of this node is some indication of its applicability? > As I explained, it works when I say `-geometry` (one dash), so this > feature is already there. The only issue is that `--geometry` (two > dashes) doesn't work. Yes, because it (the variant with two dashes) is specifically disabled for the NS windowing system in common-win.el. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 20 21:44:23 2024 Received: (at 71669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2024 01:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKTKB-0002P2-F5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 21:44:23 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com ([209.85.208.169]:53468) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKTK8-0002Of-Ui for 71669@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 21:44:21 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec17eb4493so21462221fa.2 for <71669@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:44:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1718934191; x=1719538991; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9eDH6lN9r/cg1CDv70LQL/b9cpFK3e58mAyXAxmAt6s=; b=bdtHxJ0EsXG7KqpMG1soiH7kYPCZEhIyvTDSxS8aTHtbAut/x5B4kCQwd2rtUVQUmT mM5kn7gRalsc6hXPYOBRakPlzuH/7aKn5IA32Dc3KNw1IDHeLrg6uO6SK3ckt/8KhL80 8wj1xBI+pReqHwCk7oDmMUWHGU5i+oJ6nNB0uSsTurcxxGuZdl33VQUGTj8b1qjQZYSr PZ9nI8JQF+3e8yvrv3zKdR3R0QZ6LKS0TRFsGq7+4IXMFfwDSWbQgExlgRiUPwV+OCiR ofW0laMtycnskvmvaVXJKCOXPpocnXvNGpBKk1BtcdSD5akssQ1dSwompNLvz7Y1+0Bt Xipg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1718934191; x=1719538991; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9eDH6lN9r/cg1CDv70LQL/b9cpFK3e58mAyXAxmAt6s=; b=q0CZ9QyFtFy1thu0nO5NJVvnDrmm2cFKyYqAaF+fePD5ne8E/MJaa0srpQjEuRDGI4 PzVZaricqDebyDugA9TR7bflqOZ9LR0lr8J59wAtDkvh3Pi18uOc/G6tITn8Us3XGWak jbTQkZHwh/uzTs9HrUEcKJ2xaLpwPXFKB3taLroVG7eyoyZ1YuNATwqrh10UiUyKEmZs uuxRBCN+dl6zon7JGbqskckQJthgfW+yiHqQQeSNgSdB6bSVRAF+N3L5MU9NcoEjEWt+ tT03u1DPmgVBeL40iwIyJPUpNgZ9ebfuA90ZwXXIUyvlaDHaZw396XeNLgk0scFY9J55 S3+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyeS9Eq+70FoIJPqevTM6S2+kw7DvJ52gzLlhTkxYDcGD1KZ6Qm AKLShFOJ0cglSSfcaM7e80FL9hLvS3XW5G8LsBlSGRJhsKrEn9aBHw+vVZrJISv41XO+MRXPDMg zLEMRfB/BA6rl1S/d88oTnCRI4PQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE/JzNTnN37nOgQdQZmkMEQ/MNLhDRegGwWDc8knx8os7o8JQ4SW3vyT8ykoBXfVVqu2Mq0Mw27tX+S1HblYQE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b6cc:0:b0:2ec:4f4c:3b9c with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec4f4c402fmr727181fa.6.1718934190350; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:43:09 +0000 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: <87msnf3dmy.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:43:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#71669: 30.0.50; macOS: `emacs --geometry` flag broken, only `-geometry` works To: Po Lu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71669 Cc: 71669@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Po Lu writes: >> >>> Where is it documented that `--geometry' should be supported on all >>> systems? >> >> 1. man emacs >> 2. (info "(emacs) Window Size X") > > Surely the name of this node is some indication of its applicability? It's not very helpful, no. >> As I explained, it works when I say `-geometry` (one dash), so this >> feature is already there. The only issue is that `--geometry` (two >> dashes) doesn't work. > > Yes, because it (the variant with two dashes) is specifically disabled > for the NS windowing system in common-win.el. I assume that you mean the part setting `command-line-ns-option-alist`. Do you agree that this is a bug? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 21 02:33:08 2024 Received: (at 71669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2024 06:33:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56686 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKXpc-000359-J3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:33:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54998) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKXpa-00034b-4z for 71669@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:33:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKXpQ-000784-2t; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:32:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9/DYxU6joWlqKyKingCysnDik1qiiqVrb+s7K/xTtdM=; b=htNX/wmQYJLJ STKoGJ+HxSyeNvX3sN34duffyYGfGUwDPL9cUobWrI7wNk8B9mTGpQwyjtHpfBZkWCrpmB0Ck2Jho lhgLwZiCQPeWQpf98kR++qKsN8UqhmbdcDagh9tTAKn7hR+KqAze8+orwJ3rfgwb45fSUeW8hoGFZ sPCAgWmFKxYukTmnis9P1XLLGgW2u1aIdTmBoRk1pA92B/Zt6GZHeo1vSJIUcsrqHRijH8R3nAJGj xRkjLjSZk7gOeKaf+f1exdiYvbyWJex3dDaGDAI5hBDpqg5mfvRB4Sy5wPhoH9ejz3BayApbXpt5D ek0y0dsr9Xe8+gVreR013Q==; Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:32:53 +0300 Message-Id: <861q4qn6ui.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:43:09 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#71669: 30.0.50; macOS: `emacs --geometry` flag broken, only `-geometry` works References: <87msnf3dmy.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71669 Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 71669@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 71669@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:43:09 +0000 > > Po Lu writes: > > > Stefan Kangas writes: > > > >> Po Lu writes: > >> > >>> Where is it documented that `--geometry' should be supported on all > >>> systems? > >> > >> 1. man emacs > >> 2. (info "(emacs) Window Size X") > > > > Surely the name of this node is some indication of its applicability? > > It's not very helpful, no. > > >> As I explained, it works when I say `-geometry` (one dash), so this > >> feature is already there. The only issue is that `--geometry` (two > >> dashes) doesn't work. > > > > Yes, because it (the variant with two dashes) is specifically disabled > > for the NS windowing system in common-win.el. > > I assume that you mean the part setting `command-line-ns-option-alist`. > > Do you agree that this is a bug? Not necessarily. My reading of the VC history is that before commit d7d8c62a57e7, which unified the NS handling of command-line arguments with the rest of GUI platforms, there was no support for -g (in any of its forms, including -geometry and --geometry) on macOS. So it could be that the fact we now support -g and -geometry is a bug. If you add --geometry to command-line-ns-option-alist, does it work as expected, with all formats of -geometry that are supposed to be supported? If yes, we could enable that on macOS and see if anything breaks or someone complains. But maybe if you try this, you will find the reason why this switch is not fully supported on NS. 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My reading of the VC history is that before commit > d7d8c62a57e7, which unified the NS handling of command-line arguments > with the rest of GUI platforms, there was no support for -g (in any of > its forms, including -geometry and --geometry) on macOS. So it could > be that the fact we now support -g and -geometry is a bug. In d7d8c62a57e7 it was actually still commented out. Proper support was only added 4 years later, in commit e543ae917. The fact that "--geometry" wasn't commented out at the time looks like it was just an oversight. > If you add --geometry to command-line-ns-option-alist, does it work as > expected, with all formats of -geometry that are supposed to be > supported? If yes, we could enable that on macOS and see if anything > breaks or someone complains. But maybe if you try this, you will find > the reason why this switch is not fully supported on NS. It works fine, so I pushed a patch to master. Closing this now, thanks. 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