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GNOME Konsol crashes

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From: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:34:15 +0200

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Hi.

GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had
open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).  I've now seen this twice,
so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't know how to
trigger it.  I recall that it happened when I used the mouse to maybe
resize windows or switch workspace somehow.

This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system
configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).
Syslog has these two crashes:

Jun 12 17:53:49 localhost vmunix: [244491.668326] .kgx-real[2161]: segfault at 29 ip 00007fd22dc31d6d sp 00007ffed19f0630 error 6 in crocus_dri.so[7fd22da94000+165b000] likely on CPU 10 (core 20, socket 0)
Jun 12 17:53:49 localhost vmunix: [244491.668348] Code: c0 75 42 48 8b 93 08 1a 00 00 48 8d 8b 08 1a 00 00 49 8d 44 24 08 66 48 0f 6e c9 66 48 0f 6e c2 66 0f 6c c1 41 0f 11 44 24 08 <48> 89 42 08 48 89 83 08 1a 00 00 f0 83 6d 00 01 75 31 5b 5d 41 5c

Jun 13 20:45:36 localhost vmunix: [96351.516581] .kgx-real[2371]: segfault at 8 ip 00007f34fc831d6d sp 00007ffe27647ae0 error 6 in crocus_dri.so[7f34fc694000+165b000] likely on CPU 30 (core 46, socket 0)
Jun 13 20:45:36 localhost vmunix: [96351.516595] Code: c0 75 42 48 8b 93 08 1a 00 00 48 8d 8b 08 1a 00 00 49 8d 44 24 08 66 48 0f 6e c9 66 48 0f 6e c2 66 0f 6c c1 41 0f 11 44 24 08 <48> 89 42 08 48 89 83 08 1a 00 00 f0 83 6d 00 01 75 31 5b 5d 41 5c

Anyone else seeing this?  I know it is hard to debug based on this
information...

/Simon

[1] https://gitlab.com/jas/sjd-cosmos/-/blob/master/yeti.sjd.se/config.scm

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Message #8 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>, 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:32:00 +0200

Am Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
> Hi.
> 
> GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had
> open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).  I've now seen this
> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't
> know how to trigger it.  I recall that it happened when I used the
> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow.
> 
> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system
> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).
> Syslog has these two crashes:
… and a fairly normal GPU?

The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa.  Since GNOME
is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot
of places.  You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to
something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance. 
Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering.


Cheers

Message #11 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:30:54 +0200

> 21 juni 2024 kl. 06:32 skrev Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> Am Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had
>> open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).  I've now seen this
>> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't
>> know how to trigger it.  I recall that it happened when I used the
>> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow.
>> 
>> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system
>> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).
>> Syslog has these two crashes:
> … and a fairly normal GPU?

Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am using Dasharo system firmware if that makes a difference.

I’ve used this system extensively and think some recent update may have introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard to tell though since it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work each time.

> The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa.  Since GNOME
> is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot
> of places.  You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to
> something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance.
> Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering.

Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It hasn’t happened for any other application.

/Simon

Message #14 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>
Cc: 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#71556: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:56:36 +0900

Hi Simon,

Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org> writes:

>> 21 juni 2024 kl. 06:32 skrev Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Am Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had
>>> open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).  I've now seen this
>>> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't
>>> know how to trigger it.  I recall that it happened when I used the
>>> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow.
>>> 
>>> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system
>>> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).
>>> Syslog has these two crashes:
>> … and a fairly normal GPU?
>
> Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am using Dasharo system firmware if that makes a difference.
>
> I’ve used this system extensively and think some recent update may have introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard to tell though since it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work each time.
>
>> The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa.  Since GNOME
>> is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot
>> of places.  You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to
>> something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance.
>> Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering.
>
> Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It hasn’t happened for any other application.

Are you still having problems with GNOME Console (you do mean 'Console',
the default console application in GNOME (the one whose executable is
'kgx') ?)

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #17 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#71556: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:21:38 +0200

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I saw the problem a couple of more times, but I have switched away from kgx (which I think is called Konsol not Console?) to the old Terminal app and haven’t had any issues since.  I’m okay closing this bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else who have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue further.

/Simon

> 22 okt. 2024 kl. 08:56 skrev Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org <mailto:simon <at> josefsson.org>> writes:
> 
>>> 21 juni 2024 kl. 06:32 skrev Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Am Freitag, dem 14.06.2024 um 18:34 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> GNOME Konsol has crashed for me, bringing down all 10+ windows I had
>>>> open (and plenty of ongoing work halted...).  I've now seen this
>>>> twice, so I suppose it counts as reproducible, even though I don't
>>>> know how to trigger it.  I recall that it happened when I used the
>>>> mouse to maybe resize windows or switch workspace somehow.
>>>> 
>>>> This is guix v1.3.0-60008-g7e00fb9f31 with a fairly normal system
>>>> configuration [1] on a fairly ordinary amd64 desktop (MSI Z790P).
>>>> Syslog has these two crashes:
>>> … and a fairly normal GPU?
>> 
>> Built-in UHD 770 in the Intel 14900K CPU (no overclocking). I am using Dasharo system firmware if that makes a difference.
>> 
>> I’ve used this system extensively and think some recent update may have introduced it as I started seeing it only recently. Hard to tell though since it only happened after 4+ hours of interactive work each time.
>> 
>>> The crash indicates some driver issue, probably in Mesa.  Since GNOME
>>> is increasingly hardware accelerated, you tend to notice them in a lot
>>> of places.  You can twiddle the GSK_RENDERER environment variable to
>>> something less buggy, potentially at the cost of performance.
>>> Particularly the cairo one ought to do slow, but correct CPU rendering.
>> 
>> Ah this makes sense. I will try and see if I notice it again. It hasn’t happened for any other application.
> 
> Are you still having problems with GNOME Console (you do mean 'Console',
> the default console application in GNOME (the one whose executable is
> 'kgx') ?)
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Maxim

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Message #20 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>, Maxim Cournoyer
 <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71556: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:24:03 +0200

Am Dienstag, dem 22.10.2024 um 10:21 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
> I saw the problem a couple of more times, but I have switched away
> from kgx (which I think is called Konsol not Console?) to the old
> Terminal app and haven’t had any issues since.  I’m okay closing this
> bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else who
> have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue further.
It might well be Konsol in some language – it's Console in English.  As
for kgx/Mesa bugs, there might be some due to GTK using hardware
acceleration under the hood (which, in turn, is controlled by a few
variables and depends on whether your hardware works nice with libre
software/current Mesa).

Cheers

Message #23 received at 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Simon Josefsson <simon <at> josefsson.org>, 71556 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#71556: GNOME Konsol crashes
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:20:11 +0900

Hi,

Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Am Dienstag, dem 22.10.2024 um 10:21 +0200 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
>> I saw the problem a couple of more times, but I have switched away
>> from kgx (which I think is called Konsol not Console?) to the old
>> Terminal app and haven’t had any issues since.  I’m okay closing this
>> bug report unless there is some more information from anyone else who
>> have time to debug the kgx/Mesa issue further.
> It might well be Konsol in some language – it's Console in English.  As
> for kgx/Mesa bugs, there might be some due to GTK using hardware
> acceleration under the hood (which, in turn, is controlled by a few
> variables and depends on whether your hardware works nice with libre
> software/current Mesa).

I've searched for similar reports and found none specific to GNOME
Console (kgx), although this one about the whole Xorg server crashing
looks similar [0]. One of the commenter there also mentions the problem
vanishing after upgrading their memory to 32 GiB, so perhaps it's
related to something being OOM'd ?

Anyway, if you can reproduce this, I think the best place to report the
issue would be upstream on that mesa tracker: they are more likely to
figure out the actual problem and come up with a fix.

[0]  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/7626

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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