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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:02:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': Recipe is as follows: 1) emacs -Q 2) M-x help RET 3) Observe error giving following backtrace:=20 Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) string-match("%THIS-KEY%" nil) help() call-interactively(help t nil) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) The issue seems to be make-help-screen in help-macro.el, which assumes that (documentation FNAME) gives non-nil, something not true for #'help. It would probably be sufficient to change the string-match call like so: (if (and help-screen (string-match "%THIS-KEY%" help-screen)) ...) and an insert further down like so: (insert (or help-screen "")) If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /usr/share/emacs/23.2/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) of 2010-05-08 on laptop configured using `configure '--srcdir=3D/usr/src/emacs-23.2-1/src/emacs-= 23.2' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--exec-prefix=3D/usr' '--bindir=3D/usr/bin' '--s= bindir=3D/usr/sbin' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/lib' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '-= -localstatedir=3D/var' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--datarootdir=3D/usr/share'= '--docdir=3D/usr/share/doc/emacs' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/usr/include/ncursesw' '= LDFLAGS=3D-L/usr/lib/ncursesw' 'CC=3Dgcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -pipe ' 'LIBS=3D'= ' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: C.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: RET k C-a C-k C-x b * B A TAB C-b C-k a TAB RET c q=20 C-p C-n C-p C-n C-n C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n ESC x e h l=20 p C-a C-k h e l p RET f C-g q C-x o C-x b RET C-s t=20 h i s C-p C-p ESC < C-s s t r i n g - m a t c h C-a=20 C-x b * B a c TAB C-g C-x o ESC x h e l p RET q ESC=20 x h e l p RET v C-g q ESC [ [ A v h e l p - s c r e=20 e n RET C-g ESC x h e l p RET f d o c C-g q ESC [ [=20 A f d o c u m e n t a t i o n RET C-x o C-x o C-n C-n=20 C-n RET RET C-p ( d o s C-b C-k c u m e n t a t i o=20 n SPC ' ESC [ [ A f h e l p RET ESC [ [ A f h e l p=20 - f o r - h e l p RET C-a C-e h e l p - f o r - h e=20 l p - i n t e r n a l ) C-j ESC x r e p o r t - e m=20 a c s - b u g RET M x - DEL DEL - x SPC h e l p SPC=20 d DEL f a i l s C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-k R E T C-g ESC=20 x h e l p RET q C-a ESC x h e ESC p ESC p RET Recent messages: Proceeding, will debug on next eval or call. Entering debugger... Continuing. Entering debugger... Quit Back to top level. Type C-x 4 C-o RET to restore the other window. Quit Entering debugger... Back to top level. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message idna sendmail regexp-opt ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug byte-opt disass bytecomp byte-compile multi-isearch find-func debug two-column cl cl-19 help-mode easymenu view help-fns tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd font-setting tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process font-render-setting gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) --=20 =E2=80=9CApart from the nine-banded armadillo, man is the only natural ho= st of Mycobacterium leprae, although it can be grown in the footpads of mice.=E2= =80=9D -- Kumar & Clark, Clinical Medicine, summarising improbable leprosy res= earch From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 28 19:24:27 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2010 23:24:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0jX9-0005MK-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:24:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0jX8-0005MC-Ew for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:24:26 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0jZs-0003bW-7t; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:27:16 -0400 To: Aidan Kehoe Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: supercomputer Cohiba NASA nitrate ammunition cybercash X-Ran: z9`x<=e)f:/|o.P;OFD;i^+%c5j)WfFRU&7ZxR#vsX>;v{$3GSZ_HXh1[>Km[_99,?y;1l X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:27:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Aidan Kehoe wrote: > 1) emacs -Q > 2) M-x help RET > 3) Observe error giving following backtrace: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) I cannot reproduce this. > The issue seems to be make-help-screen in help-macro.el, which assumes > that (documentation FNAME) gives non-nil, something not true for > #'help. (documentation #'help) returns "Help command." for me in Emacs 23.2. > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) > of 2010-05-08 on laptop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 03:14:32 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 07:14:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0qs4-0001RK-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:14:32 -0400 Received: from daedalus.ipv4.asclepian.ie ([213.133.100.226] helo=daedalus.asclepian.ie) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0qs2-0001RF-Cd for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:14:31 -0400 Received: by daedalus.asclepian.ie (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 142FCB816; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:17:23 +0100 (IST) From: Aidan Kehoe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-ID: <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:17:22 +0100 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error In-Reply-To: <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" d0bc331e433f+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.2) X-Echelon-distraction: AFSPC enigma HAHO Cocaine MP5k walburn Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Ar an t-ocht=C3=BA l=C3=A1 is fiche de m=C3=AD M=C3=A9an F=C3=B3mhair, s= cr=C3=ADobh Glenn Morris:=20 > Aidan Kehoe wrote: >=20 > > 1) emacs -Q > > 2) M-x help RET > > 3) Observe error giving following backtrace:=20 > > > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) >=20 > I cannot reproduce this. >=20 > > The issue seems to be make-help-screen in help-macro.el, which assum= es > > that (documentation FNAME) gives non-nil, something not true for > > #'help. >=20 > (documentation #'help) >=20 > returns "Help command." for me in Emacs 23.2. Good for you. (symbol-function 'help-for-help-internal) (h-f-h-i being wh= at help eventually resolves to) gives me a compiled function with a nil documentation slot; help.elc has (defalias 'help-for-help-internal ...) w= ith a compiled function and what seems to be the correct lazy doc reference. = The DOC file seems correct, with an entry =1FFhelp-for-help-internal Help command.=1F But (documentation #'custom-declare-variable-early) and (documentation #'when) both give nil for me, and the same seems to be true for all the dumped compiled functions with docstrings. I don=E2=80=99t know why that = is, and I don=E2=80=99t especially care to debug it right now, but this binary is w= hat Cygwin installed, I=E2=80=99m certain I=E2=80=99m not the only one affected. > > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) > > of 2010-05-08 on laptop --=20 =E2=80=9CApart from the nine-banded armadillo, man is the only natural ho= st of Mycobacterium leprae, although it can be grown in the footpads of mice.=E2= =80=9D -- Kumar & Clark, Clinical Medicine, summarising improbable leprosy res= earch From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 03:55:29 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 07:55:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0rVh-0001iL-I2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:55:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0rVf-0001iG-QJ for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:55:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0rYR-0001Bk-IQ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:58:19 -0400 To: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: AMW propaganda David John Oates militia pre-emptive X-Ran: jlVF?aHwzmw(m9r:370*vV!`0.j`n,c@L`5+UL1Q[Hs!$EQ]=Y)]E57vE:I{F4'u1t5w]1 X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:58:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> (Aidan Kehoe's message of "Wed\, 29 Sep 2010 08\:17\:22 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: kbrown@cornell.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) This may be Cygwin-specific? Aidan Kehoe wrote: > (symbol-function 'help-for-help-internal) (h-f-h-i being what help > eventually resolves to) gives me a compiled function with a nil > documentation slot; help.elc has (defalias 'help-for-help-internal > ...) with a compiled function and what seems to be the correct lazy > doc reference. The DOC file seems correct, with an entry > =1FFhelp-for-help-internal Help command.=1F > > But (documentation #'custom-declare-variable-early) and (documentation > #'when) both give nil for me, and the same seems to be true for all the > dumped compiled functions with docstrings. I don=E2=80=99t know why that = is, and I > don=E2=80=99t especially care to debug it right now, but this binary is w= hat Cygwin > installed, I=E2=80=99m certain I=E2=80=99m not the only one affected. > > > > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) > > > of 2010-05-08 on laptop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 09:00:04 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 13:00:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0wGR-0004Xn-NS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:00:03 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0wGO-0004XJ-OL for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:00:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-67-249-196-94.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.196.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o8TD2qEk000410; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:02:41 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100929-0, 09/29/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu id o8TD2qEk000410 X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) On 9/29/2010 3:58 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > > This may be Cygwin-specific? > > Aidan Kehoe wrote: > >> (symbol-function 'help-for-help-internal) (h-f-h-i being what help >> eventually resolves to) gives me a compiled function with a nil >> documentation slot; help.elc has (defalias 'help-for-help-internal >> ...) with a compiled function and what seems to be the correct lazy >> doc reference. The DOC file seems correct, with an entry >> =1FFhelp-for-help-internal Help command.=1F >> >> But (documentation #'custom-declare-variable-early) and (documentation >> #'when) both give nil for me, and the same seems to be true for all th= e >> dumped compiled functions with docstrings. I don=E2=80=99t know why th= at is, and I >> don=E2=80=99t especially care to debug it right now, but this binary i= s what Cygwin >> installed, I=E2=80=99m certain I=E2=80=99m not the only one affected. >> >> > > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) >> > > of 2010-05-08 on laptop I can reproduce the problem on my (Cygwin) system. The bug occurs in=20 Emacs 23.2 as well as a build from the current emacs-23 branch. But the=20 bug is gone in a build from the trunk. I wonder if the patch in=20 bug#6715 is what fixed it. At a glance, I don't see anything else=20 Cygwin-specific that might be relevant. When I get a chance, I'll see=20 if back-porting that patch to emacs-23 fixes the problem. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 12:57:07 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 16:57:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0zxr-0006JQ-7k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:57:07 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P0zxo-0006J4-FP for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:57:05 -0400 Received: from [128.84.234.191] (markov.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o8TGxvn6000886 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:00:03 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu id o8TGxvn6000886 X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) On 9/29/2010 9:02 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 9/29/2010 3:58 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: >> >> This may be Cygwin-specific? >> >> Aidan Kehoe wrote: >> >>> (symbol-function 'help-for-help-internal) (h-f-h-i being what help >>> eventually resolves to) gives me a compiled function with a nil >>> documentation slot; help.elc has (defalias 'help-for-help-internal >>> ...) with a compiled function and what seems to be the correct lazy >>> doc reference. The DOC file seems correct, with an entry >>> =1FFhelp-for-help-internal Help command.=1F >>> >>> But (documentation #'custom-declare-variable-early) and (documentatio= n >>> #'when) both give nil for me, and the same seems to be true for all t= he >>> dumped compiled functions with docstrings. I don=E2=80=99t know why t= hat is, and I >>> don=E2=80=99t especially care to debug it right now, but this binary = is what Cygwin >>> installed, I=E2=80=99m certain I=E2=80=99m not the only one affected. >>> >>> > > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) >>> > > of 2010-05-08 on laptop > > I can reproduce the problem on my (Cygwin) system. The bug occurs in > Emacs 23.2 as well as a build from the current emacs-23 branch. But th= e > bug is gone in a build from the trunk. I wonder if the patch in > bug#6715 is what fixed it. At a glance, I don't see anything else > Cygwin-specific that might be relevant. When I get a chance, I'll see > if back-porting that patch to emacs-23 fixes the problem. This turns out not to be so easy. That patch is intertwined with a lot=20 of changes to the build system that were made only in the trunk, so=20 there's no way to quickly test whether that patch is relevant to the=20 present bug. Since the bug is gone in the trunk, I don't think it's=20 worth putting a lot of effort into fixing it in the emacs-23 branch. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 12:59:41 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 16:59:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P100L-0006Kw-Lt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:59:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P100K-0006Kr-9z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:59:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1037-0004zJ-LJ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:02:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19619.28969.528398.962343@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:02:33 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: blue X-Ran: %6j9?1IMm(~GMT,nH&0C0'}HlR(:1u{NjYrKP[';S_g0h7l+:Sa0Q`nKi|'K5TGYDm-8i7 X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) fixed 7127 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 13:04:55 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 17:04:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P105N-0006Nm-UH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:04:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P105L-0006Ng-Vm for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:04:52 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1088-0005C9-Mp; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:07:44 -0400 To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: warfare Commecen MD2 David John Oates halcon Waco, Texas X-Ran: !9HPsEE]VbyTqJwjT>ENP0J+%Sjfi\f[L9h+Y.'&'+`M#,R%`o%b5b*F@"AKY-?,OJv2}G X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:07:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> (Ken Brown's message of "Wed\, 29 Sep 2010 13\:00\:03 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Ken Brown wrote: > This turns out not to be so easy. That patch is intertwined with a > lot of changes to the build system that were made only in the trunk, > so there's no way to quickly test whether that patch is relevant to > the present bug. Would this have the same effect? *** src/s/cygwin.h 2010-01-13 08:35:10 +0000 --- src/s/cygwin.h 2010-09-29 17:04:58 +0000 *************** *** 104,109 **** --- 104,110 ---- #define PENDING_OUTPUT_COUNT(FILE) ((FILE)->_p - (FILE)->_bf._base) #define SYSV_SYSTEM_DIR 1 #define UNEXEC unexcw.o + #define START_FILES pre-crt0.o #define POSIX_SIGNALS 1 #define LINKER $(CC) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 14:56:01 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2010 18:56:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P11ou-0007qr-Tf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:56:01 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P11os-0007qm-D2 for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:55:59 -0400 Received: from [128.84.234.191] (markov.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o8TIwpDW000941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:58:57 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 9/29/2010 1:07 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >> This turns out not to be so easy. That patch is intertwined with a >> lot of changes to the build system that were made only in the trunk, >> so there's no way to quickly test whether that patch is relevant to >> the present bug. > > Would this have the same effect? > > *** src/s/cygwin.h 2010-01-13 08:35:10 +0000 > --- src/s/cygwin.h 2010-09-29 17:04:58 +0000 > *************** > *** 104,109 **** > --- 104,110 ---- > #define PENDING_OUTPUT_COUNT(FILE) ((FILE)->_p - (FILE)->_bf._base) > #define SYSV_SYSTEM_DIR 1 > #define UNEXEC unexcw.o > + #define START_FILES pre-crt0.o > #define POSIX_SIGNALS 1 > #define LINKER $(CC) That's the first thing I tried, but emacs wouldn't compile because of an undefined reference in src/sysdep.c. So I patched that. Then emacs wouldn't compile because of an undefined reference in src/vm-limit.c. That's when I decided that it might not be worth the trouble to put more time into this. I'd also be a little worried about what side-effects might result from selectively backporting changes to the build system. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 20:33:07 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2010 00:33:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1759-0002S0-27 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:33:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1757-0002Re-BT for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:33:05 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P177v-00005P-5x; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:35:59 -0400 To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Rumsfeld Firewalls kilderkin S Box Elvis bullion Centro X-Ran: bikZ1GV1dYd&R.nD7?[+g5LG|1=.Xgh\l%:%0l X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Ken Brown wrote: > That's the first thing I tried, but emacs wouldn't compile because of > an undefined reference in src/sysdep.c. So I patched that. Then > emacs wouldn't compile because of an undefined reference in > src/vm-limit.c. That's when I decided that it might not be worth the > trouble to put more time into this. I'd also be a little worried > about what side-effects might result from selectively backporting > changes to the build system. True; but if the documentation of many (?) functions is missing, that seems like a problem serious enough to try to fix it for the future Emacs 23.3. Of course, I can say that because it won't be me trying to fix it. :) Did 23.1 have the same problem? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 29 22:12:25 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2010 02:12:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P18dF-00035R-LQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:12:25 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P18dD-00035M-E0 for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:12:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-67-249-196-94.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.196.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o8U2FGlU024177; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:15:03 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100929-1, 09/29/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 9/29/2010 8:35 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >> That's the first thing I tried, but emacs wouldn't compile because of >> an undefined reference in src/sysdep.c. So I patched that. Then >> emacs wouldn't compile because of an undefined reference in >> src/vm-limit.c. That's when I decided that it might not be worth the >> trouble to put more time into this. I'd also be a little worried >> about what side-effects might result from selectively backporting >> changes to the build system. > > True; but if the documentation of many (?) functions is missing, that > seems like a problem serious enough to try to fix it for the future > Emacs 23.3. OK, I'll look harder. > Did 23.1 have the same problem? No, it doesn't. So that changes things completely. I guess I have to try a bisection to find the revision between 23.1 and 23.2 where the bug first appears. It may be a little while before I have time to do this. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 30 03:09:25 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2010 07:09:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1DGf-0005gN-Kb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:09:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1DGe-0005gI-Bi for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:09:24 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1DJS-0004cN-UX; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:12:18 -0400 To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Saddam Hussein Bush Wired Fortezza InfoSec bce bluebird X-Ran: 6g#'p0_KI5,c7DT%TT_oV]i6V>hZC6Zc'dq8U^~R?9q)s.X\*FvDSkw)0@77gX7~W<#zc) X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:12:18 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Ken Brown wrote: >> Did 23.1 have the same problem? > > No, it doesn't. So that changes things completely. I guess I have to > try a bisection to find the revision between 23.1 and 23.2 where the > bug first appears. It may be a little while before I have time to do > this. The first thing you could try is just a straight rebuild of the 23.2 package (if you were testing a pre-built binary). I have a vague memory of some transient DOC related weirdness with emacs-snapshot packages that just seemed to go away on its own (?). So maybe it was just a build glitch. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 30 13:27:58 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2010 17:27:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1MvG-0002J4-6R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:27:58 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1MvE-0002Iz-Hp for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:27:57 -0400 Received: from [128.84.234.191] (markov.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o8UHUqPI008729 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:30:59 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 9/30/2010 3:12 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >>> Did 23.1 have the same problem? >> >> No, it doesn't. So that changes things completely. I guess I have to >> try a bisection to find the revision between 23.1 and 23.2 where the >> bug first appears. It may be a little while before I have time to do >> this. > > The first thing you could try is just a straight rebuild of the 23.2 > package (if you were testing a pre-built binary). I have a vague > memory of some transient DOC related weirdness with emacs-snapshot > packages that just seemed to go away on its own (?). So maybe it was > just a build glitch. Thanks for the suggestion. This is indeed a build glitch, but I don't understand what's happening yet. If I unpack the emacs-23.2 source and just build it (./configure && make) the bug is gone. But normally I build emacs for Cygwin by using a packaging tool called cygport, which (among other things) does an out-of-tree build. I don't know if this is causing the problem. My build of emacs-23.1 also used cygport and didn't exhibit the bug. So I have to keep investigating. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 01 09:57:49 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2010 13:57:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1g7Q-0007G1-Uv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:57:49 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1g7O-0007Fw-VV for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:57:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-67-249-196-94.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.196.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o91E0iKc017664; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:00:31 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101001-0, 10/01/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 9/30/2010 1:30 PM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 9/30/2010 3:12 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: >> Ken Brown wrote: >> >>>> Did 23.1 have the same problem? >>> >>> No, it doesn't. So that changes things completely. I guess I have to >>> try a bisection to find the revision between 23.1 and 23.2 where the >>> bug first appears. It may be a little while before I have time to do >>> this. >> >> The first thing you could try is just a straight rebuild of the 23.2 >> package (if you were testing a pre-built binary). I have a vague >> memory of some transient DOC related weirdness with emacs-snapshot >> packages that just seemed to go away on its own (?). So maybe it was >> just a build glitch. > > Thanks for the suggestion. This is indeed a build glitch, but I don't > understand what's happening yet. If I unpack the emacs-23.2 source and > just build it (./configure&& make) the bug is gone. But normally I > build emacs for Cygwin by using a packaging tool called cygport, which > (among other things) does an out-of-tree build. I don't know if this is > causing the problem. My build of emacs-23.1 also used cygport and > didn't exhibit the bug. So I have to keep investigating. The out-of-tree build is indeed the problem, and I'm no longer sure this is Cygwin-specific. Here are the steps to reproduce it: wget http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-23.2.tar.gz tar -xf emacs-23.2.tar.gz mkdir build cd build ../emacs-23.2/configure make cd src ./emacs -Q M-x help The result is the error message "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil". I would appreciate it if someone could try this on another system so that I'll know if it's a Cygwin problem. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 01 14:30:44 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2010 18:30:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1kNY-0000dT-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:30:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1kNX-0000dO-B5 for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:30:43 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1kQN-0007CB-V5; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:33:39 -0400 To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Belknap ANDVT bemd national information infrastructure X-Ran: O25|=owo5f/&-g/48-NMmbJk)_QNZlVHF;``'5v0T7TdzxQ@vlD'rz User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Ken Brown wrote: > tar -xf emacs-23.2.tar.gz > mkdir build > cd build > ../emacs-23.2/configure > make > cd src > ./emacs -Q > M-x help Works for me on an x86_64 GNU/Linux system. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 01 19:48:50 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2010 23:48:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1pLO-0002f1-JI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:48:50 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1pLM-0002ew-Uv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:48:49 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1pOG-0008Bg-7j; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:51:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19622.29716.168504.211225@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:51:48 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: green X-Ran: Jzug.v*79Gh$Q{@J@Vb-e%;ai#x5"3Q-#)"U:Xu*C43fZVW}F?<1O,#&AaagDI#UNpiAj^ X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) notfixed 7127 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 01 21:52:37 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2010 01:52:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1rHA-00044s-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:52:36 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1rH8-00044n-FG for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:52:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-67-249-196-94.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.196.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o921tWTR012588; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 21:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:55:16 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101001-1, 10/01/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 10/1/2010 2:33 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >> tar -xf emacs-23.2.tar.gz >> mkdir build >> cd build >> ../emacs-23.2/configure >> make >> cd src >> ./emacs -Q >> M-x help > > Works for me on an x86_64 GNU/Linux system. That's too bad. I was hoping this would become someone else's problem. In any case, it's easy enough to work around it. I just won't do an out-of-tree build for my future releases of emacs-23 for Cygwin. (The problem doesn't exist in emacs-24.) And I'll go ahead and do a rebuild of 23.2 for the Cygwin distribution within the next few days. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 01 22:54:24 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2010 02:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1sEx-0004Tc-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:54:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1sEv-0004TV-Fi for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:54:22 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1sHo-0007yJ-HD; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:57:20 -0400 To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Croatian ANDVT DRM CIDA Cohiba NASA Axis of Evil $400 X-Ran: ~q>eh\waf%LO4oaK7\8rSQ8%c}Y'[&b!nN~(o}j'+_TR\O)9,}(^]!_w.O>sZ:q[;*_;Ef X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:57:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> (Ken Brown's message of "Fri\, 01 Oct 2010 21\:55\:16 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Ken Brown wrote: > That's too bad. I was hoping this would become someone else's problem. Maybe it's some temporary thing that isn't specific to Cygwin, but doesn't happen every time. Like I said, I have a vague memory of something similar for the emacs-snapshot package. I think it was: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=2590 It's hard to see what could have changed between 23.1 and 23.2 to cause this, nor why it should go away in 24.1. > In any case, it's easy enough to work around it. I just > won't do an out-of-tree build for my future releases of emacs-23 for > Cygwin. (The problem doesn't exist in emacs-24.) And I'll go ahead > and do a rebuild of 23.2 for the Cygwin distribution within the next > few days. Great, thank you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 02 09:54:24 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2010 13:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P22Xf-00011N-GA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:54:23 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P22Xd-00011F-3V for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:54:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpe-67-249-196-94.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.196.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o92DvKnL019278; Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA73A2D.7030202@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:57:01 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101002-0, 10/02/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 10/1/2010 10:57 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >> That's too bad. I was hoping this would become someone else's problem. > > Maybe it's some temporary thing that isn't specific to Cygwin, but > doesn't happen every time. Like I said, I have a vague memory of > something similar for the emacs-snapshot package. I think it was: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=2590 > > It's hard to see what could have changed between 23.1 and 23.2 to > cause this, nor why it should go away in 24.1. > >> In any case, it's easy enough to work around it. I just >> won't do an out-of-tree build for my future releases of emacs-23 for >> Cygwin. (The problem doesn't exist in emacs-24.) And I'll go ahead >> and do a rebuild of 23.2 for the Cygwin distribution within the next >> few days. > > Great, thank you. Before I upload the new build, I want to make sure the problem really is fixed. M-x help works fine, but then I tried some of the other things that the OP mentioned, and I got the following results: (symbol-function 'help-for-help-internal) #[nil "\306\307\310!! \203\311\312\"\210\313\314!\315  \316 ;\317\211<=\317\211>?\320\321 \"\203<\322\323\324 \325\326O!\327\211 $\330\216\317 @\241\210\331 \332\333#\210\331 \334\335A\336\"#\210 \203| B\337\317!)>\335C>\"\203s\335C>\">>\325H?\202\340??\340=\204\226?D=\204\226?E>\203$\341 <\342\343!\210\344\345!\203\267\346\347 !;=\204\267\346\347 !=\317<\317F\327G\350 \210 c\210) \351 \210 )eb\210?\352ED\353B\">\204\354?\242\354=\204\354>\355\232\203$\317\356\357\217\210\327 BH\337\360\361\362d!\203\363\202\364\"!\211>\325H?*?\365=\203\317\366\335 >\"\317>#\210\202\317\311\363!\210?<\203<?IBI\317\211<\202u\335 >\"\211J\203r<\203T\367) id 1P23jk-0001Wp-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:10:56 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P23jh-0001Wk-0N for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:10:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L9O005004H4Z300@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:12:58 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.77.74]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L9O0059T4XGS3C0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:12:53 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:12:58 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error In-reply-to: <4CA73A2D.7030202@cornell.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Ken Brown Message-id: <83r5g8pr0l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> <4CA73A2D.7030202@cornell.edu> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7127@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:57:01 -0400 > From: Ken Brown > Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> > > Do these all look OK? (I'm worried about the first and third.) I get > the same results in a build from the (emacs-24) trunk. I get the same results in two different builds of Emacs 23.2 (on GNU/Linux and on Windows), so I think they are at least as good as the rest of Emacs builds ;-) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 02 11:44:09 2010 Received: (at 7127) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2010 15:44:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P24Fs-0001kL-Ot for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:44:09 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P24Fq-0001jz-Bo for 7127@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:44:07 -0400 Received: from [128.84.234.191] (markov.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o92Fl6oR005835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CA75403.30509@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:47:16 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> <4CA73A2D.7030202@cornell.edu> <83r5g8pr0l.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83r5g8pr0l.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127 Cc: "rgm@gnu.org" , "7127@debbugs.gnu.org" <7127@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) On 10/2/2010 11:12 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:57:01 -0400 >> From: Ken Brown >> Cc: "7127@debbugs.gnu.org"<7127@debbugs.gnu.org> >> >> Do these all look OK? (I'm worried about the first and third.) I get >> the same results in a build from the (emacs-24) trunk. > > I get the same results in two different builds of Emacs 23.2 (on > GNU/Linux and on Windows), so I think they are at least as good as the > rest of Emacs builds ;-) Thanks! That's a relief. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 08 11:11:30 2010 Received: (at 7127-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2010 15:11:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4EbZ-0003L2-If for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:11:30 -0400 Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141] helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4EbX-0003Kw-Az for 7127-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:11:28 -0400 Received: from [128.84.234.191] (markov.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o98FEhMp003576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CAF3565.60806@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:14:45 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7127: 23.2; M-x help throws an error References: <19618.29737.497771.713881@parhasard.net> <4i7hi5a1po.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <19618.59394.954066.964412@parhasard.net> <4CA338F1.1080402@cornell.edu> <4CA37093.6040304@cornell.edu> <4CA38C71.3040906@cornell.edu> <4CA3F2A7.5070906@cornell.edu> <4CA4C953.5000103@cornell.edu> <4CA5E97F.9060308@cornell.edu> <1aaamxoj98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4CA69104.2080504@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7127-done Cc: 7127-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) On 10/1/2010 10:57 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Ken Brown wrote: > >> That's too bad. I was hoping this would become someone else's problem. > > Maybe it's some temporary thing that isn't specific to Cygwin, but > doesn't happen every time. Like I said, I have a vague memory of > something similar for the emacs-snapshot package. I think it was: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=2590 > > It's hard to see what could have changed between 23.1 and 23.2 to > cause this, nor why it should go away in 24.1. > >> In any case, it's easy enough to work around it. I just >> won't do an out-of-tree build for my future releases of emacs-23 for >> Cygwin. (The problem doesn't exist in emacs-24.) And I'll go ahead >> and do a rebuild of 23.2 for the Cygwin distribution within the next >> few days. > > Great, thank you. The mystery is solved by Eli's fix for bug#7167. It was a problem with the 23.2 tarball. If I delete src/buildobj.h, an out-of-tree build of 23.2 works again under Cygwin. Bug closed. Ken From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:23:20 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator