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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jidanni.org; s=dreamhost; t=1716797824; bh=Vf0GIuQltTLOS+a+2EWO8xhPFpaj/USrlHmFNp+3Drk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=w0LHAzUILU6zK+DsAzxbh0DBOs78kpE67dgf0A5tTiN/LtdnJZSjphA9OgFzFGscw qWt6hjg78NN5yy0KD/VL2sva6IPca3ZuzOjfQCdfogp1IrqFU6W1pFSVK1em43veG3 /loV0G+DM/AofZIyAT+WN/KwTGNpGTen1uOcmc4hq1CBizItzsJYn4VX0+LtTWSVvq v+BJlD6IbfPWLlhoh3Bwal2Rw6KhgH2y7MW3cLSyBpxRW1rXoe0mDbt2Ir58t+Riy0 MGnfyNSVhbHHRtTe1JAzWt0nl4qciOVgxa7WNZuBD1OgHkQvD44tH+uY2F9mfrXybs TAOWyFx7/w5rA== Received: from jidanni by jidanni.org with local (Exim 4.97) (envelope-from ) id 1sBVXQ-000000001MD-1viN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2024 16:17:00 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Missing hyperlink Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 16:17:00 +0800 Message-ID: <87v82zhdoj.7.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.16; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=beige.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) (info "(emacs) Fixing Case") contains a hyperlink to (info "(emacs) Case") but the latter is missing a vital hyperlink to the former!! I'm saying if we are reading the latter, we would feel sad if we found out one day we didn't know about the former. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 27 07:42:09 2024 Received: (at 71220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2024 11:42:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43244 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBYjx-00047D-19 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2024 07:42:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBYju-00046k-AL for 71220@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2024 07:42:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sBYhZ-0002oZ-7B; Mon, 27 May 2024 07:39:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=8ROBM34JP6myEWy0ZhfUcKKYLibgJOuCktIZ4oe4Lxc=; b=gvoOjEJeyvG5 66NDmcpX1dJ7U7EaGHBqcSnSmBom/EKRFIfmzE/YSWdFpP0jP3W4dz1sxIg+2W5VM/EyQJeR9FcJ5 Ri5nUSFFa5qBBE/ILSvCYbqB5OoKJt3cbwy+zPj/ncmkfbX2/ZFiErJ4Q5vPXbfH4AEpKHUyRlr7y qLLo+TFQjxa6EV1P7Lnhm2r1cFbXrwtfthWCnZO12ub/5cmXPI2fpixh7aiUlVr19qQuD3egt3vpQ jrHshHBx4xpfrGLB2floEx02Ksyno57e8iWTyyWm2v8hRGbBEfCHhZAspDrP3aH3yZougYao8c+wv e6hQCTXF9wYoVVj6ew3Ufw==; Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 14:39:31 +0300 Message-Id: <86ttijv5zg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87v82zhdoj.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 27 May 2024 16:17:00 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#71220: Missing hyperlink References: <87v82zhdoj.7.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71220 Cc: 71220@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 16:17:00 +0800 > > (info "(emacs) Fixing Case") contains a hyperlink to > (info "(emacs) Case") but the latter is missing a vital hyperlink to the former!! > I'm saying if we are reading the latter, we would feel sad if we found out one day we didn't know about the former. I don't understand: "Case" tells everything that "Fixing Case" tells, and then some. By contrast, "Fixing Case" describes only a small part of what "Case" describes, and it does that to avoid the need for the reader to read the entire large section in "Case" when all they are interested in is how to fix letter-case typos. If we added a cross-reference to "Case" to "Fixing Case", what would that add to what "Case" already describes? If it doesn't add anything, then a reverse cross-reference would not be useful. 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Here's the perfect spot for the link: When given a negative argument, the word case conversion commands apply to the appropriate number of words before point, but do not move point, see (info "(emacs) Fixing Case"). This is convenient when you have just typed a word in the wrong ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ case: you can give the case conversion command and continue typing. That way users get to see much more detail ! If this were GitHub I would submit a PR. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 27 09:59:31 2024 Received: (at 71220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2024 13:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBast-00089V-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:59:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBasq-00089F-VA for 71220@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:59:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sBasc-0003XV-8H; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:59:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=tjSDzKW8UT0ROk+Gtp3/XQVaqgQz0vZpeja51eNJ3Qc=; b=ISX2Ko3nhU4m75kP2YfD C1bjlPxzsrzF1jIF2bw9MUzjRgtBzzAntW9PWLNi2TClWZwYmD5H3h+tQpOJ+zVZJd85OpeG8gDxH I/LUwL7Ycy542Ktn/CbFVpzBjzs4xkM2ruNgK22Zla7SrXNQGS5efg4Nl1siGkFbRbF0jUpwXxAvw xI2tbJMYxKcwkZTNNJPqJ/wHkXqhWa+unMTK8W+FbeVuPd8IDzTh4UD8Bi2Q6LbSM/BYX9lUfwIAT fRW74wCh4Tz/xWFUP5AiYUjg/B5ZPbLJhxszsIiK4oIb8aMCAdpZBTuYpujH49y43coWUdoIaRLaP aLNKELalOcQYTg==; Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 16:59:10 +0300 Message-Id: <86bk4ruzip.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <87o78rpe2n.3.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 27 May 2024 21:41:20 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#71220: Missing hyperlink References: <87v82zhdoj.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <86ttijv5zg.fsf@gnu.org> <87o78rpe2n.3.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71220 Cc: 71220@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Cc: 71220@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 21:41:20 +0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > EZ> I don't understand: "Case" tells everything that "Fixing Case" tells... > > Here's the perfect spot for the link: > > When given a negative argument, the word case conversion commands > apply to the appropriate number of words before point, but do not move > point, see (info "(emacs) Fixing Case"). This is convenient when you have just typed a word in the wrong > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > case: you can give the case conversion command and continue typing. > > That way users get to see much more detail ! The text in "Fixing Case", all of it, is this: ‘M-- M-l’ Convert last word to lower case. Note ‘Meta--’ is Meta-minus. ‘M-- M-u’ Convert last word to all upper case. ‘M-- M-c’ Convert last word to lower case with capital initial. A very common error is to type words in the wrong case. Because of this, the word case-conversion commands ‘M-l’, ‘M-u’, and ‘M-c’ have a special feature when used with a negative argument: they do not move the cursor. As soon as you see you have mistyped the last word, you can simply case-convert it and go on typing. *Note Case::. What does this say that "Case", and in particular the paragraph you quote above, does not? I'd rather add whatever is missing to "Case" than send the reader to another place in the manual. > If this were GitHub I would submit a PR. A GitHub PR is not automatically accepted, either. 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Note ‘Meta--’ is Meta-minus. > ‘M-- M-u’ > Convert last word to all upper case. > ‘M-- M-c’ > Convert last word to lower case with capital initial. > > What does this say that "Case", and in particular the paragraph you > quote above, does not? I'd rather add whatever is missing to "Case" > than send the reader to another place in the manual. One gets to see three commands, each with its own two lines. That leaves a lasting impression, instead of requiring the user to need to analyze the sentence and come up with them in their head. 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Perhaps sending patches is an acceptable alternative; run `git format-patch -1' and then attach the result to your email. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 28 08:41:20 2024 Received: (at 71220-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2024 12:41:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBw8m-0006Jj-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2024 08:41:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33788) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sBw8j-0006JN-Ev for 71220-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2024 08:41:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sBw8Q-0006tz-LK; Tue, 28 May 2024 08:40:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ung0vgVxEwYcRErwY547BknybeIwCBcz8YCRCWcbzHA=; b=QBJPY51iF6dG/8Hqa1Sy WZhDDxNF9p+VDtgLGZ8U68uzd6XnfUWet6jGk0URWkP3OwTV6Tj+/ihh6pcAcpeE5iA39o5rP4/U+ xLg9YOZA1w2/tMVSvc/96u6I3lZIS1Gyd0Myz7KoZuoJIkUqLHAeYTVrq9k49vSr4W23n5obqVpXt 7nPxXiTUvk2AVxvt1Ej6u/G5vHJRFgSktzKN/PBoOjpK1bxOJ1VohVtmvtuU6iRIObbDW/YHcCLpJ EtVVEBn62v/e1n7SiPI0ujCcrX4t1ordQrP30FtnquqhqJXhscG6slHbtZ4d4gdIX+N6JHSQeS1fz Sp87mDs5NmkHDw==; Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 15:40:40 +0300 Message-Id: <86plt6t8hj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 27 May 2024 22:43:40 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#71220: Missing hyperlink References: <87v82zhdoj.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <86ttijv5zg.fsf@gnu.org> <87o78rpe2n.3.fsf@jidanni.org> <86bk4ruzip.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71220-done Cc: 71220-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 22:43:40 +0800 > From: Dan Jacobson > Cc: 71220@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 04:59:10PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > The text in "Fixing Case", all of it, is this: > > > > ‘M-- M-l’ > > Convert last word to lower case. Note ‘Meta--’ is Meta-minus. > > ‘M-- M-u’ > > Convert last word to all upper case. > > ‘M-- M-c’ > > Convert last word to lower case with capital initial. > > > > What does this say that "Case", and in particular the paragraph you > > quote above, does not? I'd rather add whatever is missing to "Case" > > than send the reader to another place in the manual. > > One gets to see three commands, each with its own two lines. That > leaves a lasting impression, instead of requiring the user to need to > analyze the sentence and come up with them in their head. OK, I added some stuff from "Fix Case" to "case", and I'm therefore closing this bug. From unknown Fri Aug 15 12:50:19 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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