From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:41:46 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#711: 23.0.60; line movement behaviour has changed Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 711@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 711 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121864052411909 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:25:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Aug 2008 15:15:24 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7DFFJE9011577 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:15:21 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:39086) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI35-0001CZ-KS for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:14:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI4B-0001Jh-92 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:15:18 -0400 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]:50749) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI4A-0001J0-H4 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:15:15 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.25] (helo=15.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KTI48-0004KO-CN for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:12 +0200 Received: from p5b23bdd8.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.189.216]:51823 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 15.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KTI47-0006hR-NI for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:12 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Message-Id: <759403E3-8055-4801-940B-25E144F0FA3C@Freenet.DE> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--184859298 From: Peter Dyballa Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) --Apple-Mail-1--184859298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello! In earlier versions of GNU Emacs 23.0.60 C-n, cursor-down, C-p, cursor-up, processed text lines. Now the text cursor moves only through lines on the screen. Example: a text line of 1000 characters in an 80 characters wide window consumes 13 lines on screen. To reach the next (or previous) line of text I'd have to press up to 13 times a cursor key or C-p or C-n. C-e and C-a behave as usual. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-08-13 on localhost Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '-- with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--enable- locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/ Application Support/Emacs/caml:/Library/Application Support/Emacs:/sw/ share/emacs21/site-lisp/elib' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/sw/lib/freetype219/ lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/qt4-x11/lib/ pkgconfig:/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/ usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=-ggdb - gfull -H -Wno-pointer-sign -bind_at_load -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=7450 - mtune=7450 -mno-powerpc64 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -fno- crossjumping' 'CPPFLAGS=-no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -I/usr/local/ include -idirafter /usr/X11R6/include' 'LDFLAGS=-bind_at_load - dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/sw/lib/ncurses -L/sw/lib -L/ usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete With Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact opposite. --Apple-Mail-1--184859298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello!

In earlier versions of GNU Emacs 23.0.60 C-n, = cursor-down, C-p, cursor-up, processed text lines. Now the text cursor = moves only through lines on the = screen.

Example: a text line of 1000 characters = in an 80 characters wide window consumes 13 lines on screen. To reach = the next (or previous) line of text I'd have to press up to 13 times a = cursor key or C-p or C-n.

C-e and C-a behave as = usual.


In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 = (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
=A0of= 2008-08-13 on localhost
Windowing system distributor `The = XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000
configured using = `configure =A0'--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--with-dbus' = '--with-libotf' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dathena' = '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/caml:/Library/Application = Support/Emacs:/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp/elib' = 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/sw/lib/freetype219/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/l= ib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/qt4-x11/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkg= config:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfi= g' 'CFLAGS=3D-ggdb -gfull -H -Wno-pointer-sign -bind_at_load -pipe -fPIC = -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -mno-powerpc64 -fast -mpim-altivec = -ftree-vectorize -fno-crossjumping' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-no-cpp-precomp = -I/sw/include -I/usr/local/include -idirafter /usr/X11R6/include' = 'LDFLAGS=3D-bind_at_load -dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress = -L/sw/lib/ncurses -L/sw/lib -L/usr/local/lib = -L/usr/X11R6/lib''

Important = settings:
=A0=A0value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0=A0value of = $LC_COLLATE: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_CTYPE: = de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
=A0=A0val= ue of $LC_MONETARY: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_NUMERIC: = nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_TIME: nil
=A0=A0value of = $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $XMODIFIERS: = nil
=A0=A0locale-coding-system: = utf-8-unix
=A0=A0default-enable-multibyte-characters: = t

Major mode: Lisp = Interaction

Minor modes in = effect:
=A0=A0show-paren-mode: = t
=A0=A0display-time-mode: t
=A0=A0tooltip-mode: = t
=A0=A0tool-bar-mode: t
=A0=A0mouse-wheel-mode: = t
=A0=A0file-name-shadow-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0=A0font-lock-mode:= t
=A0=A0blink-cursor-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-encryption-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-compression-mode: = t
=A0=A0column-number-mode: t
=A0=A0line-number-mode: = t
=A0=A0transient-mark-mode: t


--
Greetings

=A0 Pete

With = Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact = opposite.

 =

= --Apple-Mail-1--184859298-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:41:46 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Peter Dyballa Subject: bug#711 closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#711: 23.0.60; line movement behaviour has changed) Message-ID: References: <18595.4778.401290.22222@fencepost.gnu.org> <759403E3-8055-4801-940B-25E144F0FA3C@Freenet.DE> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 711 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 711@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1218647112-12968-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1218647112-12968-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #711: 23.0.60; line movement behaviour has changed It has been closed by Glenn Morris . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Glenn Morris by replying to this email. --=20 711: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D711 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1218647112-12968-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From rgm@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 09:59:39 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 711-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Aug 2008 16:59:39 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7DGxTNo010351; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:59:31 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTJfu-0007zR-Ec; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18595.4778.401290.22222@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:58:18 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 711-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#711: 23.0.60; line movement behaviour has changed In-Reply-To: <759403E3-8055-4801-940B-25E144F0FA3C@Freenet.DE> References: <759403E3-8055-4801-940B-25E144F0FA3C@Freenet.DE> X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: black X-Ran: >-[I~_Xdx([BEpUyn/@zzdC(zYk6ut~?v9'VnUeOk7&hTGNB4]o In earlier versions of GNU Emacs 23.0.60 C-n, cursor-down, C-p, > cursor-up, processed text lines. Now the text cursor moves only > through lines on the screen. When development versions of Emacs show new behaviour, read etc/NEWS. * Editing Changes in Emacs 23.1 ** The C-n and C-p line-motion commands now move by screen lines, taking continued lines and variable-width characters into account. Setting `line-move-visual' to nil reverts this to the previous behavior (motion by logical lines based on buffer contents alone). ------------=_1218647112-12968-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE Wed Aug 13 08:15:24 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Aug 2008 15:15:24 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7DFFJE9011577 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:15:21 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:39086) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI35-0001CZ-KS for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:14:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI4B-0001Jh-92 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:15:18 -0400 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]:50749) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTI4A-0001J0-H4 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:15:15 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.25] (helo=15.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1KTI48-0004KO-CN for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:12 +0200 Received: from p5b23bdd8.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.189.216]:51823 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 15.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1KTI47-0006hR-NI for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:12 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Message-Id: <759403E3-8055-4801-940B-25E144F0FA3C@Freenet.DE> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--184859298 From: Peter Dyballa Subject: 23.0.60; line movement behaviour has changed Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) --Apple-Mail-1--184859298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello! In earlier versions of GNU Emacs 23.0.60 C-n, cursor-down, C-p, cursor-up, processed text lines. Now the text cursor moves only through lines on the screen. Example: a text line of 1000 characters in an 80 characters wide window consumes 13 lines on screen. To reach the next (or previous) line of text I'd have to press up to 13 times a cursor key or C-p or C-n. C-e and C-a behave as usual. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-08-13 on localhost Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '-- with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--enable- locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/ Application Support/Emacs/caml:/Library/Application Support/Emacs:/sw/ share/emacs21/site-lisp/elib' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/sw/lib/freetype219/ lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/qt4-x11/lib/ pkgconfig:/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/ usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=-ggdb - gfull -H -Wno-pointer-sign -bind_at_load -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=7450 - mtune=7450 -mno-powerpc64 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -fno- crossjumping' 'CPPFLAGS=-no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -I/usr/local/ include -idirafter /usr/X11R6/include' 'LDFLAGS=-bind_at_load - dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/sw/lib/ncurses -L/sw/lib -L/ usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete With Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact opposite. --Apple-Mail-1--184859298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello!

In earlier versions of GNU Emacs 23.0.60 C-n, = cursor-down, C-p, cursor-up, processed text lines. Now the text cursor = moves only through lines on the = screen.

Example: a text line of 1000 characters = in an 80 characters wide window consumes 13 lines on screen. To reach = the next (or previous) line of text I'd have to press up to 13 times a = cursor key or C-p or C-n.

C-e and C-a behave as = usual.


In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 = (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
=A0of= 2008-08-13 on localhost
Windowing system distributor `The = XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000
configured using = `configure =A0'--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--with-dbus' = '--with-libotf' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dathena' = '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/caml:/Library/Application = Support/Emacs:/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp/elib' = 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/sw/lib/freetype219/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/l= ib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/qt4-x11/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkg= config:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfi= g' 'CFLAGS=3D-ggdb -gfull -H -Wno-pointer-sign -bind_at_load -pipe -fPIC = -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -mno-powerpc64 -fast -mpim-altivec = -ftree-vectorize -fno-crossjumping' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-no-cpp-precomp = -I/sw/include -I/usr/local/include -idirafter /usr/X11R6/include' = 'LDFLAGS=3D-bind_at_load -dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress = -L/sw/lib/ncurses -L/sw/lib -L/usr/local/lib = -L/usr/X11R6/lib''

Important = settings:
=A0=A0value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0=A0value of = $LC_COLLATE: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_CTYPE: = de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
=A0=A0val= ue of $LC_MONETARY: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_NUMERIC: = nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_TIME: nil
=A0=A0value of = $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $XMODIFIERS: = nil
=A0=A0locale-coding-system: = utf-8-unix
=A0=A0default-enable-multibyte-characters: = t

Major mode: Lisp = Interaction

Minor modes in = effect:
=A0=A0show-paren-mode: = t
=A0=A0display-time-mode: t
=A0=A0tooltip-mode: = t
=A0=A0tool-bar-mode: t
=A0=A0mouse-wheel-mode: = t
=A0=A0file-name-shadow-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0=A0font-lock-mode:= t
=A0=A0blink-cursor-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-encryption-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-compression-mode: = t
=A0=A0column-number-mode: t
=A0=A0line-number-mode: = t
=A0=A0transient-mark-mode: t


--
Greetings

=A0 Pete

With = Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact = opposite.

 =

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