From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken Resent-From: Ulrich Mueller Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7104@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.128545769119549 (code B ref -1); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:35:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2010 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeGY-00055G-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:34:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeGW-00055B-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:34:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeJ8-0004FQ-3P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:37:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:57915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeJ8-0004FM-1B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:37:30 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57076 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OzeJ6-0007BS-8a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:37:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oze4C-000311-Je for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:22:05 -0400 Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:57385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oze4C-0002xg-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:22:04 -0400 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o8PNLoZQ007253 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8PNLoqo014557; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8PNLohp014554; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) This concerns the stand-alone version of the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual: The README file claims: * This distribution contains a Makefile that you can use with GNU Make. ** To create a DVI file with a sorted index, run `make elisp.dvi'. ** To make an Info file, you need to install Texinfo, then run `make info'. However, the Makefile is not functional: $ tar xf elisp.texi.tar.gz $ cd lispref $ make info make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `../../info/elisp'. Stop. $ make elisp.dvi make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `elisp.dvi'. Stop. $ make elisp.pdf make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `elisp.pdf'. Stop. $ From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 00:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: 7104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7104.128615320112602 (code B ref 7104); Mon, 04 Oct 2010 00:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 7104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2010 00:46:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ZCT-0003HD-Hl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 20:46:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ZCR-0003H8-Ji for 7104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 20:46:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ZFQ-0004Pc-9N; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 20:49:44 -0400 References: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: cryptographic cryptanalysis Becker Rubin Osama Ceridian X-Ran: Dti92oa`Nely{]KmWMNh`\:%Vb_VQFwlvq#'4&!8uzX2f(j00(]tq@'JRSv5<>1iQS"!Ee X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 20:49:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Sun\, 26 Sep 2010 01\:21\:50 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Ulrich Mueller wrote: > However, the Makefile is not functional: This can be fixed, but I wonder if it is worth bothering. I think it's fine just to say "the source for these manuals is distributed with Emacs" and to remove those tarfiles. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken Resent-From: Ulrich Mueller Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 7104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7104.128617237820666 (code B ref 7104); Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 7104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2010 06:06:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2eBl-0005NH-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 02:06:18 -0400 Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2eBj-0005NC-RT for 7104@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 02:06:16 -0400 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o9469Jw9013356; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:09:20 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9469Ig2022494; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:09:18 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o9469Ibq022491; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:09:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19625.28558.674967.96489@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:09:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) >>>>> On Sun, 03 Oct 2010, Glenn Morris wrote: >> However, the Makefile is not functional: > This can be fixed, but I wonder if it is worth bothering. > I think it's fine just to say "the source for these manuals is > distributed with Emacs" and to remove those tarfiles. Another obvious solution would be to exclude the broken Makefile from the tarball (run "make distclean" in the Emacs top-level dir?). BTW, Gentoo still has an app-doc/elisp-manual package which uses these tarballs. But it wouldn't be a big issue for us if you removed them. (They aren't very distro-friendly anyway, since they are unversioned. Until elisp-manual-21-2.8.tar.gz they used to have a version as part of their filename.) From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:20:12 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Ulrich Mueller Subject: bug#7104: closed (Re: bug#7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken) Message-ID: References: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 7104 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 7104@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 02:37:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1286332622-2949-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1286332622-2949-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 7104@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7104: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7104 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1286332622-2949-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7104-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2010 02:36:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P3JrS-0000lM-Ir for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:36:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P3JrQ-0000l0-DC for 7104-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:36:04 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P3JuU-0004tW-Js; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:39:14 -0400 To: 7104-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7104: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken References: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <19625.28558.674967.96489@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: insurgency AK-47 Jyllandsposten FSF Delta Force Rule Psix X-Ran: O%2^THzLa.IS{`#L(P.{OvQ8\d|aZA-/?Mn0ohJUE.T=3lLT[8LhO^R"O;!46S{M*#-r=V X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:39:14 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7104-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Fixed the files, added `make dist' rules in trunk. ------------=_1286332622-2949-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2010 23:34:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeGY-00055G-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:34:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeGW-00055B-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:34:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzeJ8-0004FQ-3P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8PNLoqo014557; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8PNLohp014554; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19614.33806.533841.561532@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:50 +0200 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.2; Makefile in stand-alone Emacs Lisp Reference Manual is broken X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) This concerns the stand-alone version of the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual: The README file claims: * This distribution contains a Makefile that you can use with GNU Make. ** To create a DVI file with a sorted index, run `make elisp.dvi'. ** To make an Info file, you need to install Texinfo, then run `make info'. However, the Makefile is not functional: $ tar xf elisp.texi.tar.gz $ cd lispref $ make info make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `../../info/elisp'. Stop. $ make elisp.dvi make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `elisp.dvi'. Stop. $ make elisp.pdf make: *** No rule to make target `/home/cyd/pretest/emacs-23.2/doc/lispref/abbrevs.texi', needed by `elisp.pdf'. Stop. $ ------------=_1286332622-2949-1--