From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:26:46 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7084 <7084@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7084 <7084@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone minibuffer Reply-To: bug#7084 <7084@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 21:26:46 +0000 retitle 7084 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone= minibuffer reassign 7084 emacs submitter 7084 "Drew Adams" severity 7084 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 22 13:43:28 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2010 17:43:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTLs-00035b-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTLp-00035T-OZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:43:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTOK-0007Jv-5J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:46:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:60322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTOK-0007Jk-1W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:46:00 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38833 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OyTOI-0004gr-IL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:45:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTOH-0007J8-Dh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:45:58 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:43612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyTOH-0007Hq-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:45:57 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o8MHjoco032099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:45:51 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o8MHjliu006133 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:45:47 GMT Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 628505101285177519; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:45:19 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:45:19 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone minibuffer Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:45:20 -0700 Message-ID: <04443FACD6564F558D4F2578BC37C9CC@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Actafe0dy/44sUQHRQ+8IuGcVULpkw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) I use a standalone minibuffer frame. If I set the alpha frame parameter for some frame to (alpha 100 . 80), then whenever that frame is inactive it becomes 20% transparent, as intended. However, when the minibuffer becomes active the alpha frame flashes. And it flashes again for each char I type or delete in the minibuffer. This renders the alpha feature useless. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-09-20 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 08 03:48:02 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 08:48:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42882 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3jcn-0005dR-C6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:48:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40140) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3jca-0005co-IY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:47:53 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3jcY-0001YH-E8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:47:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:47:46 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 7084 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) merge 6370 7084 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 00:17:10 2014 Received: (at 7084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 05:17:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjF0-0000z3-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:17:10 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:52270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjEw-0000yt-Q5 for 7084@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:17:08 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjEi-0006aZ-Pa; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:16:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#7084: 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone minibuffer References: <04443FACD6564F558D4F2578BC37C9CC@us.oracle.com> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:15:39 -0800 In-Reply-To: <04443FACD6564F558D4F2578BC37C9CC@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:45:20 -0700") Message-ID: <878utj8s5g.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCjEi-0006aZ-Pa X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392614213.28671@OAQt9TTFEXUxROvVzvnBeA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7084 Cc: 7084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > I use a standalone minibuffer frame. > > If I set the alpha frame parameter for some frame to (alpha 100 . 80), > then whenever that frame is inactive it becomes 20% transparent, as > intended. However, when the minibuffer becomes active the alpha frame > flashes. And it flashes again for each char I type or delete in the > minibuffer. This renders the alpha feature useless. Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 00:31:41 2014 Received: (at 7084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 05:31:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjT3-0002Yp-57 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:31:41 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjT0-0002Yh-LT for 7084@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:31:39 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A5VaEY001820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:31:37 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A5VZAI003176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:31:36 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A5VZf4020322; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:31:35 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <908c2555-a64b-47d4-aef1-0d9e6a4e1e6c@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 21:31:33 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#7084: 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone minibuffer References: <04443FACD6564F558D4F2578BC37C9CC@us.oracle.com> <878utj8s5g.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <878utj8s5g.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7084 Cc: 7084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? Yes, and in a 24.4 build from 2014-02-07. It makes frame parameter `alpha' unusable for a setup that has a standalone minibuffer frame (mine, at least). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 22 04:45:05 2017 Received: (at 7084-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2017 08:45:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52221 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvJa5-0008BB-0H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:45:05 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:52491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvJa2-0008AQ-Gq for 7084-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:45:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.249.37]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M3zG2-1d4rc801Ni-00rX2X; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:44:50 +0200 Message-ID: <59C4CD7F.40306@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:44:47 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams , Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#7084: 24.0.50; alpha frame parameter causes flashing with standalone minibuffer References: <04443FACD6564F558D4F2578BC37C9CC@us.oracle.com> <878utj8s5g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <908c2555-a64b-47d4-aef1-0d9e6a4e1e6c@default> In-Reply-To: <908c2555-a64b-47d4-aef1-0d9e6a4e1e6c@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zLxyRwRPX263VYeRWxdnJg7ew72IOdedw6bEpjC3V2b8nqji+9H 2gjIDfGQcEUVjzsg7b2N/8Tq3xvsFZkX1b1gcVAABgcWknX1gx4KVtTopzi3tqKLczD0AKv tWAPgXcd0nMl/i2B4qyMYoMCymiZoYtf6M9mbHKhsNFYb/o2oPf4PNM9uAXF5XIGARo9+yh dq41S+3ExBlzBQ86Hmwaw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:feVrjSmdy1g=:T74n4fS6ZFUmKHtADbU5tu BWLPwyoctXWECyvVxrgd2phNk8SVWYvq6HTmzO11XkaN9R1S0682Kx3f5HAq8W+zDHjo8d2Zt JpFFta+ceA7PKgWKizbbK6w06ZteV+9dxXynAZFb0XxglrVM5fP2cmcKHajhRDMchbffUrsP/ MTrX4U+wDKWdKbOLhhrGu/CFR6Bp8cfMuO4MRo814AxJMLW8fZns905BpIWNdKCthDJvo8E7n OxRbwdvZkpd7EnajiYYJy9NLv07BstIG0rayDyLHxgwmd+esirMQxyTA1J2b4UpofvAEWBA+d 38fiaBKeRnCAoGD1C+EEO25a8XeFkw1inhDJl8gtGoIE1wl3Tr038vtf5Q9AyugaatRyYR6Re tr271UXbT9tUYCseLD2jBFLWgAsOb1uQhT0SvfqqXO2OKZ2RrxyUgYOYBw+ys6XkCqx33P5IB pog+p6VNaMyxSHuljhAaIqFQKzTwfLlYjpKI6yWej9x7rJlOteuY+X0MyV7PRJyRozonUyUyP 8VJMDAdaWoN7c2HxF0FTngaDHmBv8mfsW1lpUsDnOl2zeRSKv+0ZwupjvFEdL1CaWE6VnBtH0 kkJfTStAOF3KMzymvZoociSENyDlcwdEd482VDW6ktnh7KZRItZFA7pLlJE/VIvRtw52M0zO/ mEKZsYeWoBeOf9GRx7HH79grkzJNe1whGA63C1pCqAbBhp5cVigPnrqNl0aXCvmOzUX72A4wX FOcroiQysxDZXf0Si6rJF2fg0cQRUBo7FoCnLzZS8EgfO800AmyHdUyWqZiPo9iEH7F/0u4xZ m3kqy3TlCvL16WTEvAzsY0TxLrRLIYKIURmmzNOujedB+ptIdjd+If6XYMjtCdWm4u6S+q8 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7084-done Cc: 7084-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) >> Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? > > Yes, and in a 24.4 build from 2014-02-07. It makes frame > parameter `alpha' unusable for a setup that has a standalone > minibuffer frame (mine, at least). When I start Emacs 24.5.50.1 with the -Q option and load a file with the following contents (setq default-frame-alist '((minibuffer . nil))) (set-frame-parameter nil 'alpha (cons 100 80)) and I now type C-h f in the "alpha frame", I can indeed see "the alpha frame flash (at least on Windows)". Since I cannot reproduce this flashing with a build of Emacs 25.3.50.1, I'm marking this bug as done. Thanks for the report, martin From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:26:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator