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flymake-cc creates `-.o` files

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
To: Emacs Bug Report <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
Subject: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 15:10:18 +0200

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`flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a command like

  make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"

which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose name is mysterious and awkward to remove.

What about the patch below?

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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
To: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>, 
 Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com>
Cc: Emacs Bug Report <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100

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On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <
mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for
> `flymake-cc-command`, generates a command like
>
>   make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
>
> which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that
> is never cleaned up and whose name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
>
> What about the patch below?
>

Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer.

João

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Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
To: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com>, Emacs Bug Report <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:00:08 +0200

2 maj 2024 kl. 15.13 skrev João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>:

> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer. 

Would either of you please update the `Maintainer:` lines in lisp/progmodes/flymake*.el then?

Message #14 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
Cc: sbaugh <at> catern.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 04 May 2024 14:38:39 +0300

> Cc: sbaugh <at> catern.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:00:08 +0200
> 
> 2 maj 2024 kl. 15.13 skrev João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> > Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer. 
> 
> Would either of you please update the `Maintainer:` lines in lisp/progmodes/flymake*.el then?

Spencer, is it okay to mention you there as the maintainer of Flymake?

Message #17 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>, sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 11:28:55 +0300

> Cc: 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a
>  command like
> 
>    make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
> 
>  which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose
>  name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
> 
>  What about the patch below?
> 
>  
> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer. 

Spencer, any comments or suggestions or patches?

Thanks.

Message #20 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 11:33:40 +0300

Ping!

> Cc: sbaugh <at> catern.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora <at> gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 04 May 2024 14:38:39 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> > Cc: sbaugh <at> catern.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:00:08 +0200
> > 
> > 2 maj 2024 kl. 15.13 skrev João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>:
> > 
> > > Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer. 
> > 
> > Would either of you please update the `Maintainer:` lines in lisp/progmodes/flymake*.el then?
> 
> Spencer, is it okay to mention you there as the maintainer of Flymake?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Message #23 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: sbaugh <at> catern.com, mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com,
 João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:45:50 -0700

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a
>>  command like
>>
>>    make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
>>
>>  which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose
>>  name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
>>
>>  What about the patch below?
>>
>>
>> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer.
>
> Spencer, any comments or suggestions or patches?
>
> Thanks.

Ping.

Message #26 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, joaotavora <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:10:52 +0300

Ping! Spencer, would you please chime in?

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:45:50 -0700
> Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>, sbaugh <at> catern.com, 
> 	mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> Cc: 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
> >> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a
> >>  command like
> >>
> >>    make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
> >>
> >>  which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose
> >>  name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
> >>
> >>  What about the patch below?
> >>
> >>
> >> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer.
> >
> > Spencer, any comments or suggestions or patches?
> >
> > Thanks.
> 
> Ping.
> 

Message #29 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, stefankangas <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 joaotavora <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:55:48 +0300

Ping! Ping!  Spencer, please respond.

> Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, joaotavora <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:10:52 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Ping! Spencer, would you please chime in?
> 
> > From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:45:50 -0700
> > Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>, sbaugh <at> catern.com, 
> > 	mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> > 
> > >> Cc: 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > >> From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
> > >> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a
> > >>  command like
> > >>
> > >>    make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
> > >>
> > >>  which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose
> > >>  name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
> > >>
> > >>  What about the patch below?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer.
> > >
> > > Spencer, any comments or suggestions or patches?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > Ping.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Message #32 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: sbaugh <at> catern.com
Cc: joaotavora <at> gmail.com, mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, stefankangas <at> gmail.com,
 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:22:10 +0300

Ping! Ping! Ping!  Spencer, are you there?

> Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, stefankangas <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>  joaotavora <at> gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 10:55:48 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Ping! Ping!  Spencer, please respond.
> 
> > Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, joaotavora <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:10:52 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> > 
> > Ping! Spencer, would you please chime in?
> > 
> > > From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:45:50 -0700
> > > Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>, sbaugh <at> catern.com, 
> > > 	mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > 
> > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> > > 
> > > >> Cc: 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > >> From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
> > > >> Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:13:49 +0100
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:10 PM Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a
> > > >>  command like
> > > >>
> > > >>    make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
> > > >>
> > > >>  which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose
> > > >>  name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
> > > >>
> > > >>  What about the patch below?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Copying in Spencer Baugh, the new Flymake maintainer.
> > > >
> > > > Spencer, any comments or suggestions or patches?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Ping.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Message #35 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: sbaugh <at> catern.com
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com,
 João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>,
 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:01:18 +0000 (UTC)

Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com> writes:
> `flymake-cc-use-special-make-target`, the standard value for `flymake-cc-command`, generates a command like
>
>   make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="-x c -c -"
>
> which causes the compiler (at least Clang) to create the file `-.o` that is never cleaned up and whose name is mysterious and awkward to remove.
>
> What about the patch below?

(info "(flymake) Example---Configuring a tool called via make")

mentions a check-syntax target looking like:

check-syntax:
	gcc -o /dev/null -S ${CHK_SOURCES} || true

So it seems like it would be better to add this -o /dev/null in your
Makefile.

That also allows you to run, e.g.,

  make check-syntax CHK_SOURCES="file1.c file2.c"

from a shell or M-x compile.

So I think this is a bug in your Makefile, not flymake-cc.

But, also, probably the docstring of flymake-cc-use-special-make-target
should be updated to link to the manual.  And probably the manual should
mention that CHK_SOURCES can be an explicit list of files too.

BTW, the CHK_SOURCES target mentioned by flymake is, AFAICT from web
searches, completely unique to flymake.  I wonder if there's a more
standard alternative... but we probably can't change the default of
flymake-cc-command anyway.

Message #38 received at 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> catern.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: joaotavora <at> gmail.com, mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com, stefankangas <at> gmail.com,
 70716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:01:50 +0000 (UTC)

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> Ping! Ping! Ping!  Spencer, are you there?

My apologies, I had an issue causing me to not receive these emails.

I think it would be best to list sbaugh <at> janestreet.com as the Flymake
maintainer, since I'm more likely to receive such emails.

Message #43 received at 70716-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 70716-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#70716: flymake-cc creates `-.o` files
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:50:00 +0200

28 aug. 2024 kl. 19.01 skrev sbaugh <at> catern.com:

> check-syntax:
> 	gcc -o /dev/null -S ${CHK_SOURCES} || true
> 
> So it seems like it would be better to add this -o /dev/null in your
> Makefile.

Actually not my Makefile but that of flymake-tests.
Anyway, now done on master, thank you!

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