From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 01 15:30:45 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2024 19:30:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39022 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2FfB-0005ea-9h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 May 2024 15:30:45 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:46808) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2Ff9-0005eU-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 May 2024 15:30:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s2Feg-0001Cg-Br for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 May 2024 15:30:16 -0400 Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s2Fed-0005PV-Io for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 May 2024 15:30:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 90376 invoked by uid 3782); 1 May 2024 21:29:54 +0200 Received: from muc.de (p4fe15130.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.81.48]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 May 2024 21:29:54 +0200 Received: (qmail 22904 invoked by uid 1000); 1 May 2024 19:29:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 19:29:54 +0000 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Useless error message from the reader: Error: invalid-read-syntax ("#") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.3; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Hello, Emacs. Recently, in my development version, I got the "error message": Error: invalid-read-syntax ("#") while attempting to build Emacs. This is an utterly useless error message: (i) "#" is valid syntax in a .el or .elc file. Only a subsequent character causes the invalidity. The precise character sequence is not disclosed. (ii) The source of the invalid character sequence, a file or buffer or string is kept secret. (iii) The offset of the erring position in the file/buffer/string is not disclosed. Neither is a line number or column number. (iv) No context is given (e.g. the 32 characters before and after the "#"). This unhelpful message is a bug: a correct message would give at least some of the information listed above. The appearance, which surely must be false, is that the person implementing the error messages was not attempting to help those affected by them. Come on, Emacs - we can do better than this. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 06 16:19:57 2024 Received: (at 70702-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2024 20:19:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40059 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s44oW-0006rz-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 16:19:57 -0400 Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:12538) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s44oU-0006rl-FT for 70702-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 16:19:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 33243 invoked by uid 3782); 6 May 2024 22:19:22 +0200 Received: from muc.de (p4fe15e55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.94.85]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 May 2024 22:19:21 +0200 Received: (qmail 22085 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2024 20:19:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 20:19:21 +0000 To: 70702-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#70702: Useless error message from the reader: Error: invalid-read-syntax ("#") Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70702-done Cc: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The bug has been fixed in master. On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 19:31:02 +0000, GNU bug Tracking System wrote: > Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org. > This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message > has been received. > Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other > interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. > Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please > send it to 70702@debbugs.gnu.org. > Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@gnu.org unless you wish > to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. > -- > 70702: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=70702 > GNU Bug Tracking System > Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). 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