From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 16 16:09:43 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2010 20:09:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKm7-0001qT-9G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKm5-0001qM-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:09:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKoK-0000BX-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:12:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:34537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKoK-0000BT-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:12:00 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52581 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OwKoJ-0003nM-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:12:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKoI-0000B0-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:11:59 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:55873 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwKoH-0000Ar-TZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:11:58 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2010 20:11:56 -0000 Received: from i59F570D6.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.112.214] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 22:11:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18RzFNNW0IR9I7W7ttTsL9wbV6Ty7Xh/rIT65dQDy QShAcWgEDh2jsb Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1166110444; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:11:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:11:55 +0200 Message-ID: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to Emacs?). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.7 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) of 2010-09-16 on escher Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10605000 configured using `configure '--with-imagemagick' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 17 09:35:02 2010 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2010 13:35:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Owb5i-0001TO-0e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:35:02 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se ([213.150.131.4]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Owb5f-0001TF-G3 for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:35:00 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8266E9855 for <7050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:20 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqcvAFMMk0xV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHbZo0DAEBAQE1LcJqhUAEjTE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,382,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="130809337" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 15:37:20 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD0277FA05A; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> In-Reply-To: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: > Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, > it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the > mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ > (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to > Emacs?). OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 17 11:03:36 2010 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2010 15:03:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwcTP-00027R-On for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:03:35 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwcTO-00027M-At for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:03:35 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2010 15:05:55 -0000 Received: from i59F545DE.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.69.222] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 17:05:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18mwrxSDlAm/mzDoY8UitxjasHUbq5fwDrLrmjrXP NZxmfRcL+/rLBi Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51878103B9; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:05:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:05:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrot= e: > Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >> Emacs?). > > OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can > have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 17 12:00:59 2010 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2010 16:00:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwdMx-0002aq-25 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:00:59 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-b11.telenor.se ([62.127.194.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwdMu-0002al-CI for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:00:57 -0400 Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-b11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F168AE9790 for <7050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:17 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8vAKMtk0xV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACDG4RSmjYMAQEBATUtsGWSOoEigytzBI0x X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,383,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="131902586" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2010 18:03:17 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0844B7FA05A; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C939144.4060704@swipnet.se> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> In-Reply-To: <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv = wrote: > >> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edg= es, >>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with th= e >>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>> Emacs?). >> >> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we= can >> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. > > Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and > detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). > Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 17 18:50:02 2010 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2010 22:50:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Owjkn-0008Hk-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:50:01 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Owjkk-0008Hf-LS for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:49:59 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2010 22:52:20 -0000 Received: from i59F545DE.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.69.222] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 18 Sep 2010 00:52:20 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Ih+FEUxZIL1+wbx7SuEEKxoHEjKYmYLyE/HTagX GbWtqkonO05fPx Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 339E3103B9; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:52:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> <4C939144.4060704@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:52:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C939144.4060704@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200") Message-ID: <87iq24htjz.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrot= e: > Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv w= rote: >> >>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edge= s, >>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>> Emacs?). >>> >>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we = can >>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >> >> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >> > > Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the tool bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). But if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added feature. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 21 03:44:23 2010 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2010 07:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxxWY-0004Tm-Ba for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:44:22 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se ([62.127.194.21]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxxWW-0004Th-AB for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:44:21 -0400 Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2125CE8923 for <7050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:50 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Agk2ANL/l0xV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACDHIRSmjUMAQEBATUtsFmSQ4EigyxzBI02 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,397,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="133012868" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 21 Sep 2010 09:46:50 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1957FA05A; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C9862E9.7020602@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:49 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> <4C939144.4060704@swipnet.se> <87iq24htjz.fsf@escher.home> In-Reply-To: <87iq24htjz.fsf@escher.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) 2010-09-18 00:52, Stephen Berman skrev: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv = wrote: > >> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv= wrote: >>> >>>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame e= dges, >>>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with = the >>>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gt= k+ >>>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>>> Emacs?). >>>> >>>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So = we can >>>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >>> >>> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >>> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >>> >> >> Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. > > In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a > box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text > area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the too= l > bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). Bu= t > if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when > I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main > window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created > by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added > feature. OpenOffice does the same as Mozilla/Firefox, keep an unrealized instance = of=20 the Gtk+ widget around just so they can use its paint routines to get the= =20 right look. They don't actually use the functionality of the widgets, th= at is=20 implemented separately. This probably helps to implement the same behavi= our=20 on multiple platforms. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 21 16:28:43 2021 Received: (at 7050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2021 20:28:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeg6-0000Fk-W3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:28:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170]:36631) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeg5-0000FQ-0i for 7050@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:28:41 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f170.google.com with SMTP id f21so1234614plb.3 for <7050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pJ0TFPTuxNp8gMAkD0UU1hIKtF/kbZp2ZQ1B9R+pcac=; b=PKzzuMBrStaaXxUD9SgeTYTcNGhUeWrJkm2hcMgHU1NlrNK1nUWiEB9J6Uona/XYbh fy0c8n6KJp3zqHbERREwzHEpgA8NRVAfXtdZByW1J8Rstl9PS5aS/YzD8YayFZeeJ4mc gBHsynNuIRAv+9idgb1T0KJw4IWT4CQSW41go8EYuDjtULzK65IDUBdfeWV3qG/IqqmV 7App2NrHbClfMW9/ZFQBDVOeOBjo1Ew+4TxQPULo4GULyLHHs3ZvegtPzvH4MRe3YUbz F4Rog9WFSgBpArYIs8vRmIMBKtzOL2dnu406y/7J5L1Z3GmMq74347yQvzDwFcgL8IPB UAuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531iVHdKE89IKB046BsTw4tg9IIJW+i5DMYlQUCgNiYDL0jiUwmZ dejbmz9ojQrlPJYMPEqHqGvmTSlXOZ8nQXtB+7w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwC7+vPBr8MbOeBbYzLqmDtqqoAL7UXK1NTQHCOfBesD8vYv4zqPvrKqm1FV/+qZChVJd1nAfjMlMzf8alvIUE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c1cb:b0:13f:8e99:2158 with SMTP id c11-20020a170902c1cb00b0013f8e992158mr7299678plc.32.1634848115222; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:28:34 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: =?UTF-8?B?PDRDOTg2MkU5LjcwMjA2MDJAc3dpcG5ldC5zZT4gKCJKYW4gRGrDpHJ2IidzIG1l?= =?UTF-8?B?c3NhZ2Ugb2YgIlR1ZSwgMjEgU2VwIDIwMTAgMDk6NDY6NDkgKzAyMDAiKQ==?= References: <878w31qwhg.fsf@escher.home> <4C936F0E.2010206@swipnet.se> <87mxrgif5c.fsf@escher.home> <4C939144.4060704@swipnet.se> <87iq24htjz.fsf@escher.home> <4C9862E9.7020602@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:28:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7050 Cc: 7050@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 7050 + wontfix close 7050 thanks Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > 2010-09-18 00:52, Stephen Berman skrev: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv w= rote: >> >>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv = wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame ed= ges, >>>>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with t= he >>>>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk= + >>>>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>>>> Emacs?). >>>>> >>>>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So w= e can >>>>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >>>> >>>> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >>>> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >>>> >>> >>> Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. >> >> In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a >> box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text >> area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the tool >> bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). But >> if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when >> I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main >> window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created >> by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added >> feature. > > OpenOffice does the same as Mozilla/Firefox, keep an unrealized instance = of the > Gtk+ widget around just so they can use its paint routines to get the rig= ht > look. They don't actually use the functionality of the widgets, that is > implemented separately. This probably helps to implement the same behavi= our on > multiple platforms. Given that we want to decrease our use of the tool-bar generally these days, I don't think it makes sense to spend significant effort on something that is not considered important enough to be supported natively by the toolkit itself. I'm therefore closing this bug report as wontfix. If you disagree with this conclusion, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we might reconsider. If you attach a patch to that message, or announce your willingness to work an such a patch, we will be even more inclined to reconsider this feature request. Thanks. From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:43:11 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator