From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: 24.0.50; ns menus are all blank Resent-From: Derrell Piper Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.128440579425058 (code B ref -1); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:24:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2010 19:23:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEcT-0006W7-GS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:23:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEcR-0006W2-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:23:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeY-0007ev-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:36117) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeY-0007er-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:22 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57775 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OvEeW-0004Cg-M7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeU-0007eM-TT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:20 -0400 Received: from mail.yoyodyne.com ([204.87.183.39]:62212) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeU-0007dy-0H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.106] by Mail.Yoyodyne.COM via Internet ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:25:09 PDT From: Derrell Piper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:25:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) [10.6.4, Xcode 3.2.4, MacOSX10.6.sdk] Somewhere along the line, the version of 23.1 I had built for Snow Leopard started showing me blank menus for everything. The menu items are present in the menu bar, but all blank. If you click enough on a menu item, you can usually get it to appear. Once it does appear, it stays for a while, but can go away later. So I upgraded to the current trunk from bazaar and the problem's still happening there too. Imperically, the following patch to nsmenu.m seems to fix this problem: =3D=3D=3D modified file 'src/nsmenu.m' --- src/nsmenu.m 2010-08-11 12:34:46 +0000 +++ src/nsmenu.m 2010-09-13 19:04:37 +0000 @@ -568,18 +568,14 @@ NSEvent *event; if (!FRAME_LIVE_P (frame)) return; + /* Don't try this if from an event picked up asynchronously, + as lots of lisp evaluation happens in ns_update_menubar. */ + if (handling_signal !=3D 0) + return; event =3D [[FRAME_NS_VIEW (frame) window] currentEvent]; - /* HACK: Cocoa/Carbon will request update on every keystroke - via IsMenuKeyEvent -> CheckMenusForKeyEvent. These are not needed - since key equivalents are handled through emacs. - On Leopard, even keystroke events generate SystemDefined events, = but - their subtype is 8. */ - if ([event type] !=3D NSSystemDefined || [event subtype] =3D=3D 8 - /* Also, don't try this if from an event picked up = asynchronously, - as lots of lisp evaluation happens in ns_update_menubar. */ - || handling_signal !=3D 0) - return; /*fprintf (stderr, "Updating menu '%s'\n", [[self title] UTF8String]); = NSLog (@"%@\n", event); */ + if ([event type] !=3D NSApplicationDefined) + return; ns_update_menubar (frame, 1, self); } ...however, I'm not familiar enough with this code (or with NSEvent) to be sure that this fix is the correct one. With this patch, the menus all function and nothing untoward is getting logged to /var/log/system. I have not tested this on prior versions of OS X, nor on GNUstep. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.14 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.4.0, NS = apple-appkit-1038.32) of 2010-09-13 on fluffy.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038 configured using `configure '--with-ns'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: ObjC/l Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: i s SPC a SPC v e r s i o n=20 SPC b u i l t SPC w i t h SPC =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-p=20 C-a C-o s-v C-a C-d [ C-e [=20 ] C-n C-n C-p C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b=20 C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b=20 C-b C-b C-j C-j C-j C-j ESC q C-n C-e SPC SPC I t '=20 s SPC p r e s e n t SPC i n SPC t h e SPC a p p p =20 l i c a t i o n SPC m e n u S-SPC ( " E m a =20 b u=20 t SPC =20 a s SPC a SPC h e i r a r =20 =20 b u t SPC =20 , SPC=20 b u t SPC b l a n k . C-p C-n C-c C-c y C-p C-p C-p=20 C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p=20 C-p C-p C-a C-SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n =20 M-x r e p r o t =20 o r t Recent messages: Auto-saving...done Mark set No closing parenthesis found Auto-saving...done Send this bug report to the Emacs maintainers? y Sending... Sending via mail... Sending...done Unable to load color "dark cyan" Mark set Load-path shadows: ~/src/el/custom hides = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/custom ~/src/el/xscheme hides = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= xscheme = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-vars hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-vars = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-styles hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-styles = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-mode hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-mode = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-menus hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-menus = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-langs hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-langs = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-fonts hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-fonts = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-engine hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-engine = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-defs hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-defs = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-compat hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-compat = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-cmds hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-cmds = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-bytecomp hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-bytecomp = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-awk hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-awk = /Users/ddp/src/trunk/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/progmodes/= cc-align hides /Users/ddp/src/el/cc-mode-5.31.3/cc-align Features: (browse-url mailalias mailclient sendmail newcomment help-mode view shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr message rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader emacsbug vc-git ebuff-menu electric multi-isearch vc-bzr sha1 hex-util cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt finder-inf package simple-wiki derived scheme-complete git-blame git log-edit easy-mmode ring pcvs-util ewoc add-log avoid server paren mic-paren cl cl-19 tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win easymenu tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: update References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Derrell Piper Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.128440634125373 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2010 19:32:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvElJ-0006bC-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:32:21 -0400 Received: from mail.yoyodyne.com ([204.87.183.39]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvElG-0006b3-Du for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:32:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.106] by Mail.Yoyodyne.COM via Internet ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:34:28 PDT From: Derrell Piper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:34:27 -0700 Message-Id: <478F42E7-3766-4876-9035-75C23B04C592@electric-loft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) I take it back, I seem to be crashing randomly with that fix in place = (though the menus are now working reliably). Investigation continues.= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 16 20:01:29 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2011 01:01:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQqM4-0003z4-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:01:28 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQqM1-0003yw-DU for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:01:26 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQqLF-0001Ni-3n for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:00:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:00:37 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 9206 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) merge 7030 8249 9206 From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Derrell Piper Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.13236312186897 (code B ref 7030); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2011 19:20:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZowb-0001nB-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:20:18 -0500 Received: from mail.yoyodyne.com ([216.129.107.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZowY-0001n2-5F for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:20:15 -0500 Received: from [192.168.45.124] ([216.243.111.165]) by Mail.Yoyodyne.COM via Internet for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org> (and others); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:18:54 PST From: Derrell Piper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:18:53 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) More information... I ultimately gave up trying to debug this because = I've been living overseas and don't have sufficient bandwidth to = download XCode. This first came to light concurrent with upgrading to Snow Leopard = (10.6), which happened when I upgraded my MacBook Air hardware. This = didn't seem to happen prior to 10.6 and FWIW, I was a beta tester of = Adrian's nextstep branch prior to it getting checked into the GNU Emacs = trunk. I've lived with this problem for the last year and a half and finally = have a little while to debug it some more. First, I'm now on 10.7.2 on = a MacBook Air (late 2010) w/ 4G and 256G SSD. The problem is not = related to my .emacs initialization file or any per-user or per-system = customization, as far as I can determine from using DTrace 'opensnoop' = and nulling everything out. It does, however, seem to be related to my = personal OS X environment, somehow. I run a number of items at Login: Speach Events SpeachSynthesisServer Livescribe AutoLaunch Livescribe Connect AutoLaunch CoverSutra (2.2.2, pre-AppStore) = http://sophiestication.com/coversutra/ iTunes FFHelperApp (2.2) = http://kevingessner.com/software/functionflip/ Radium (2.8.3, pre-AppStore) = http://www.catpigstudios.com/ Observations: 1) if I create a new unprivileged test account and run Emacs out of = there, it works 2) if I remove FFHelperApp (FunctionFlip.prefPane) *and* Radium from my = Login items, it works 3) if I add Radium to the test account Login items, it works there 4) if I also add FunctionFlip.prefPane to the test account Login Items, = it works there 5) if I put either Radium or FunctionFlip.prefPane back on my account, = it fails when the Login Items fire; until then, it works 6) when it does fail, the Application and Help menus are always valid = (possibly because they're baked into main application NIB?) 7) this happens on 23.n as well as the latest 24 nightly -- 24.0.92.1 = (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of 2011-12-02 on = bob.porkrind.org 8) it works under Aquamacs (which is based on the same nextstep code), = even with Radium and FunctionFlip present I have been running without Radium and FunctionFlip for the last 24 = hours or so and it has not failed since. Thoughts: I believe there was some controversy about inserting items into the OS X = menu bar, circa Leopard or so, but it's a hard to Google this because of = the noise using "crack" as a search term. I could believe that = FunctionFlip and Radium possibly share the same inherently buggy menu = cracker, which is perhaps triggering a bug in how the dynamic menu code = is functioning. It's almost like it's a caching problem when it's = happening because once you get the menu to drop, it's there for "a = while." In fact, if you keep flailing on a menu or two, even when = Radium comes up, the menus you're flailing on often stay valid, while = the others that you're ignoring go blank. Or perhaps, the nextstep code = simply has always had a day one bug that's just happening more often = since 10.6. A Google search for "emacs blank menus os x" shows that I'm = not alone in seeing this problem, see also 8249 & 9206. Wish I could be more help. I might try doing some forensic analysis on = Radium and FunctionFlip and see if I can find anything in common in = their binaries. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Derrell Piper Cc: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132422001424829 (code B ref 7030); Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2011 14:53:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcI7J-0006SP-Lf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:53:34 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcI7H-0006SG-O2 for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:53:32 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220AE9894 for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:51:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 7209 invoked by uid 89); 18 Dec 2011 14:51:05 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 18 Dec 2011 14:51:05 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA64B7FA058; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:51:42 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:51:42 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Hello. 11 dec 2011 kl. 20:18 skrev Derrell Piper: > 8) it works under Aquamacs (which is based on the same nextstep code), = even with Radium and FunctionFlip present >=20 I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132425529211209 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 00:41:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcRIK-0002uk-AJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:41:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcRIG-0002uc-UQ for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:41:29 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RcRGT-0007Hq-PY; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:39:37 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: class struggle Europol freedom eavesdropping quarter X-Ran: Z,)~KYK\*%}ywCJLsNp9A;{H"9BY47Gb=8`KDn^GcarA7eyHD:P/6L(,[|8Sw#}K X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:39:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?="'s message of "Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:51:42 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. Do we know who the author of that code is? From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132427665011920 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 06:37:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWqn-00036D-Px for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:37:30 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcWqk-000364-IO for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:37:28 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A820C8D4 for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:35:35 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 5787 invoked by uid 89); 19 Dec 2011 06:34:56 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 19 Dec 2011 06:34:56 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B17827FA058; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:35:34 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:35:35 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) 19 dec 2011 kl. 01:39 skrev Glenn Morris: > Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: >=20 >> I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. >=20 > Do we know who the author of that code is? No, but the files I took it from says Copyright Free Software Foundation = so I assumed it was OK, maybe that was wrong. The snippets are so short = they should be considered tiny changes. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: Glenn Morris , 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.13242943314613 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 11:32:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbRy-0001CM-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:32:11 -0500 Received: from smtp-03.vtx.ch ([194.38.175.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcbRr-0001C9-O8 for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:32:09 -0500 Received: from ceviche.home (dyn.144-85-186-064.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.186.64]) by smtp-03.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id E57E0297611; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:30:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A73706612F; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:30:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?="'s message of "Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:35:35 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) >>> I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. >> Do we know who the author of that code is? > No, but the files I took it from says Copyright Free Software Foundation so > I assumed it was OK, maybe that was wrong. The snippets are so short they > should be considered tiny changes. Could you please try and figure out who they come from? If they're "tiny changes" it's important to know who they come from, because tiny changes from the same author can accumulate to something non-tiny. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Glenn Morris , 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.13243125461509 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 16:35:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcgBm-0000OI-34 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:35:46 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcgBj-0000O9-2h for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:35:44 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D4792D5 for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:33:48 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 6873 invoked by uid 89); 19 Dec 2011 16:33:08 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 19 Dec 2011 16:33:08 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D38A77FA058; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:33:47 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:33:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <756EBA24-B23A-48A9-8704-CD41D538F23C@swipnet.se> References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) 19 dec 2011 kl. 12:30 skrev Stefan Monnier: >>>> I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. >>> Do we know who the author of that code is? >> No, but the files I took it from says Copyright Free Software = Foundation so >> I assumed it was OK, maybe that was wrong. The snippets are so short = they >> should be considered tiny changes. >=20 > Could you please try and figure out who they come from? If they're > "tiny changes" it's important to know who they come from, because tiny > changes from the same author can accumulate to something non-tiny. >=20 The git commit is done by David Reitter. He is in copyright.list for = Emacs. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: David Reitter , 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132432364918898 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 19:40:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcj4q-0004uk-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:40:48 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcj4l-0004ua-AP for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:40:45 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcj2t-0004Vt-GF; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:38:47 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> <756EBA24-B23A-48A9-8704-CD41D538F23C@swipnet.se> X-Spook: Chobetsu White Water $400 million in gold bullion X-Ran: |.Yl#]dJFgF8zqE5grOH=pnaQZG+e; ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?="'s message of "Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:33:49 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > 19 dec 2011 kl. 12:30 skrev Stefan Monnier: > >>>>> I've included the relevant code from Aquamacs, please try it. >>>> Do we know who the author of that code is? >>> No, but the files I took it from says Copyright Free Software Foundatio= n so >>> I assumed it was OK, maybe that was wrong. The snippets are so short t= hey >>> should be considered tiny changes. >>=20 >> Could you please try and figure out who they come from? If they're >> "tiny changes" it's important to know who they come from, because tiny >> changes from the same author can accumulate to something non-tiny. > > The git commit is done by David Reitter. He is in copyright.list for Ema= cs. People who do the commits aren't always the author of the code. I'm cc'ing David so he can confirm. Could you adjust the ChangeLog entry so that the relevant pieces are in his (or whoever's) name? Thanks, and sorry for the extra bother. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: David Reitter Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Stefan Monnier , Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132433876512065 (code B ref 7030); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2011 23:52:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcn0e-00038W-ET for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:52:45 -0500 Received: from smtp.andrew.cmu.edu ([128.2.11.95]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rcn0c-00038O-3v for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:52:42 -0500 Received: from elin.speedport_w_723v_typ_a (pD9FF7682.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.118.130]) (user=reitter mech=PLAIN (0 bits)) by smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBJNoiJD019650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:50:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Reitter In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:50:43 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <19DC82C8-DAA1-4FF3-959D-DA1EFB7293CE@cmu.edu> References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> <756EBA24-B23A-48A9-8704-CD41D538F23C@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.388399, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.5.19.222118 X-SMTP-Spam-Clean: 8% ( SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_600_699 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, NO_URI_FOUND 0, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0, RDNS_SUSP 0, RDNS_SUSP_SPECIFIC 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1 0, __RDNS_DYNAMIC_1 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0) X-SMTP-Spam-Score: 8% X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 128.2.11.95 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: >>=20 >> The git commit is done by David Reitter. He is in copyright.list for = Emacs. >=20 > People who do the commits aren't always the author of the code. > I'm cc'ing David so he can confirm. > Could you adjust the ChangeLog entry so that the relevant pieces are = in > his (or whoever's) name? > Thanks, and sorry for the extra bother. Yep - though generally, just because someone commits to Emacs doesn't = mean they sign over all Emacs code they write (elsewhere) to the FSF, as = far as I remember. In this case however this is perfectly fine. By the way, it's "Aquamacs", not "AquaEmacs". - David= From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: David Reitter Cc: Glenn Morris , 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132436387115703 (code B ref 7030); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 06:51:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RctXa-00045D-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:51:10 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RctXX-000455-QJ for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:51:09 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED83E9619 for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:49:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 11742 invoked by uid 89); 20 Dec 2011 06:48:29 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 20 Dec 2011 06:48:29 -0000 Received: from [10.225.16.5] (unknown [193.45.43.33]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 078157FA058; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:49:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EF02FE3.5020505@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:49:07 +0100 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> <756EBA24-B23A-48A9-8704-CD41D538F23C@swipnet.se> <19DC82C8-DAA1-4FF3-959D-DA1EFB7293CE@cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <19DC82C8-DAA1-4FF3-959D-DA1EFB7293CE@cmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Hello. David Reitter skrev 2011-12-20 00:50: > On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: >>> >>> The git commit is done by David Reitter. He is in copyright.list >>> for Emacs. >> >> People who do the commits aren't always the author of the code. I'm >> cc'ing David so he can confirm. Could you adjust the ChangeLog >> entry so that the relevant pieces are in his (or whoever's) name? >> Thanks, and sorry for the extra bother. > > Yep - though generally, just because someone commits to Emacs doesn't > mean they sign over all Emacs code they write (elsewhere) to the FSF, > as far as I remember. In this case however this is perfectly fine. I'm not a copyrights expert, but if some parts aren't assigned to FSF, should not the files (nsmenu.m, nsterm.m in this case) have another Copyright statement besides the one for FSF? > > By the way, it's "Aquamacs", not "AquaEmacs". > I fixed it in the next commit, sorry for that. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: more info Resent-From: David Reitter Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: Glenn Morris , 7030@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Derrell Piper Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.132436754220901 (code B ref 7030); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 07:52:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuUn-0005R3-CL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:52:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.andrew.cmu.edu ([128.2.11.96]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RcuUk-0005Qs-1n for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:52:18 -0500 Received: from elin.speedport_w_723v_typ_a (pD9FF7682.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.118.130]) (user=reitter mech=PLAIN (0 bits)) by smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBK7oGZ7015894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:50:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: David Reitter In-Reply-To: <4EF02FE3.5020505@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:50:14 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <75BFD05F-3EFB-4859-A17E-E1321140F9DE@swipnet.se> <756EBA24-B23A-48A9-8704-CD41D538F23C@swipnet.se> <19DC82C8-DAA1-4FF3-959D-DA1EFB7293CE@cmu.edu> <4EF02FE3.5020505@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.388399, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.4.9.4220 X-SMTP-Spam-Clean: 8% ( BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_300_399 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0, RDNS_SUSP 0, RDNS_SUSP_SPECIFIC 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1 0, __RDNS_DYNAMIC_1 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0) X-SMTP-Spam-Score: 8% X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 128.2.11.96 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Jan D. wrote: >=20 > I'm not a copyrights expert, but if some parts aren't assigned to FSF, = should not the files (nsmenu.m, nsterm.m in this case) have another = Copyright statement besides the one for FSF? It may make sense, though I think that one can hold copyright without = asserting it explicitly. I think that may depend on jurisdiction.=20= From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Derrell Piper Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7030 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7030-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7030.13244244949744 (code B ref 7030); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 7030) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 23:41:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9JN-0002X7-NM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:41:33 -0500 Received: from mail.yoyodyne.com ([216.129.107.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd9JJ-0002Wz-TM for 7030@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:41:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.45.124] ([216.243.111.165]) by Mail.Yoyodyne.COM via Internet for <7030@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:39:27 PST From: Derrell Piper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:39:27 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) I pulled the trunk and rebuilt the world from scratch and with the = latest changes, the problem no longer occurs. It's fixed as far as I = can tell. Derrell= From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Derrell Piper Subject: bug#7030: closed (Re: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk) Message-ID: References: <0F852419-8547-4303-BB7C-2C8DFFF81AC4@swipnet.se> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 7030 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs,ns Reply-To: 7030@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:33:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1324449183-15893-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1324449183-15893-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #7030: 24.0.50; ns menus are all blank which was filed against the emacs,ns package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 7030@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7030: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7030 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1324449183-15893-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7030-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2011 06:32:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFjB-00047d-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:38 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFj6-00047R-PT for 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:34 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044BE9AC5 for <7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 9570 invoked by uid 89); 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E8807FA058; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F852419-8547-4303-BB7C-2C8DFFF81AC4@swipnet.se> References: To: Derrell Piper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7030-done Cc: 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Hello. 21 dec 2011 kl. 00:39 skrev Derrell Piper: > I pulled the trunk and rebuilt the world from scratch and with the = latest changes, the problem no longer occurs. It's fixed as far as I = can tell. Ok, closing this report. Thanks for testing. Jan D. ------------=_1324449183-15893-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2010 19:23:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEcT-0006W7-GS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:23:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEcR-0006W2-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:23:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeY-0007ev-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:36117) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeY-0007er-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:22 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57775 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OvEeW-0004Cg-M7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeU-0007eM-TT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:20 -0400 Received: from mail.yoyodyne.com ([204.87.183.39]:62212) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvEeU-0007dy-0H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:25:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.106] by Mail.Yoyodyne.COM via Internet ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:25:09 PDT From: Derrell Piper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 24.0.50; ns menus are all blank Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:25:05 -0700 Message-Id: To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) [10.6.4, Xcode 3.2.4, MacOSX10.6.sdk] Somewhere along the line, the version of 23.1 I had built for Snow Leopard started showing me blank menus for everything. The menu items are present in the menu bar, but all blank. If you click enough on a menu item, you can usually get it to appear. Once it does appear, it stays for a while, but can go away later. So I upgraded to the current trunk from bazaar and the problem's still happening there too. Imperically, the following patch to nsmenu.m seems to fix this problem: =3D=3D=3D modified file 'src/nsmenu.m' --- src/nsmenu.m 2010-08-11 12:34:46 +0000 +++ src/nsmenu.m 2010-09-13 19:04:37 +0000 @@ -568,18 +568,14 @@ NSEvent *event; if (!FRAME_LIVE_P (frame)) return; + /* Don't try this if from an event picked up asynchronously, + as lots of lisp evaluation happens in ns_update_menubar. */ + if (handling_signal !=3D 0) + return; event =3D [[FRAME_NS_VIEW (frame) window] currentEvent]; - /* HACK: Cocoa/Carbon will request update on every keystroke - via IsMenuKeyEvent -> CheckMenusForKeyEvent. These are not needed - since key equivalents are handled through emacs. - On Leopard, even keystroke events generate SystemDefined events, = but - their subtype is 8. */ - if ([event type] !=3D NSSystemDefined || [event subtype] =3D=3D 8 - /* Also, don't try this if from an event picked up = asynchronously, - as lots of lisp evaluation happens in ns_update_menubar. */ - || handling_signal !=3D 0) - return; /*fprintf (stderr, "Updating menu '%s'\n", [[self title] UTF8String]); = NSLog (@"%@\n", event); */ + if ([event type] !=3D NSApplicationDefined) + return; ns_update_menubar (frame, 1, self); } ...however, I'm not familiar enough with this code (or with NSEvent) to be sure that this fix is the correct one. With this patch, the menus all function and nothing untoward is getting logged to /var/log/system. I have not tested this on prior versions of OS X, nor on GNUstep. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.14 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.4.0, NS = apple-appkit-1038.32) of 2010-09-13 on fluffy.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038 configured using `configure '--with-ns'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: ObjC/l Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: i s SPC a SPC v e r s i o n=20 SPC b u i l t SPC w i t h SPC =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-p=20 C-a C-o s-v C-a C-d [ C-e [=20 ] C-n C-n C-p C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f=20 C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b=20 C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b=20 C-b C-b C-j C-j C-j C-j ESC q C-n C-e SPC SPC I t '=20 s SPC p r e s e n t SPC i n SPC t h e SPC a p p p =20 l i c a t i o n SPC m e n u S-SPC ( " E m a =20 b u=20 t SPC =20 a s SPC a SPC h e i r a r =20 =20 b u t SPC =20 , SPC=20 b u t SPC b l a n k . 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The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 8249@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7030: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7030 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1324449184-15893-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7030-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2011 06:32:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFjB-00047d-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:38 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFj6-00047R-PT for 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:34 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044BE9AC5 for <7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 9570 invoked by uid 89); 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E8807FA058; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F852419-8547-4303-BB7C-2C8DFFF81AC4@swipnet.se> References: To: Derrell Piper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7030-done Cc: 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Hello. 21 dec 2011 kl. 00:39 skrev Derrell Piper: > I pulled the trunk and rebuilt the world from scratch and with the = latest changes, the problem no longer occurs. It's fixed as far as I = can tell. Ok, closing this report. Thanks for testing. Jan D. ------------=_1324449184-15893-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2011 14:28:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz8kb-00067C-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:28:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz3Uw-0002Nj-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz3Ur-0006Bb-2L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:25 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:59087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz3Uq-0006BV-NC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:25 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41513 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pz3Un-00012z-M8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz3Ul-0006BA-0H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:19 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:64550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz3Uk-0006B2-T4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:51:18 -0400 Received: by iwl42 with SMTP id 42so6131963iwl.0 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:51:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.213.193 with SMTP id gx1mr139055icb.509.1300092677261; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.241.195 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:51:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [83.84.224.61] Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:51:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mjIS_sQ_3rpQlDLmdKwF7Pbtqic Message-ID: Subject: 23.3; empty menus on os x 10.6 From: Alexander Fritze To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:27:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) On OS X 10.6.6, the menubar is correctly displayed as I'd expect according to the mode I'm in, but all the menus are empty (with the exception of the 'Emacs' and 'Help' menus). In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.35) of 2011-03-10 on black.porkrind.org Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038 configured using `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5'' ------------=_1324449184-15893-3-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:27:37 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Rupert Levene Subject: bug#9206: closed (Re: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk) Message-ID: References: <0F852419-8547-4303-BB7C-2C8DFFF81AC4@swipnet.se> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 9206 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs,ns Reply-To: 9206@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:33:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1324449184-15893-5" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1324449184-15893-5 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #7030: 23.3; missing menus on OS X which was filed against the emacs,ns package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 9206@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7030: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7030 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1324449184-15893-5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7030-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2011 06:32:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFjB-00047d-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:38 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdFj6-00047R-PT for 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:32:34 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044BE9AC5 for <7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 9570 invoked by uid 89); 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 21 Dec 2011 06:29:47 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E8807FA058; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: bug#7030: seems fixed in trunk Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:30:29 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F852419-8547-4303-BB7C-2C8DFFF81AC4@swipnet.se> References: To: Derrell Piper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7030-done Cc: 7030-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Hello. 21 dec 2011 kl. 00:39 skrev Derrell Piper: > I pulled the trunk and rebuilt the world from scratch and with the = latest changes, the problem no longer occurs. It's fixed as far as I = can tell. Ok, closing this report. Thanks for testing. Jan D. ------------=_1324449184-15893-5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2011 17:58:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QnDo2-00063f-V5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:58:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTY-0007Xw-VY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTP-0000RL-7C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:38391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTP-0000RG-4r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57350) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTM-00068p-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTK-0000NY-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:24 -0400 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:49501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmmTK-0000NM-Qq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:22 -0400 Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so2455396qwa.0 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pVmkFCA2kg4LNg9K7OCL8iFw4043AQkEJ0myHUejPfw=; b=grOGO0VU4gTqutH2HdBc65FARHPLhxCpPqw4d1b/hsjrK40ZCNMmpY3wUhRLwMmzbd V+mz7hROrWVW3JAhgxYLQNVBOQ+qaqzVpnj47TUfnLWh5YxVBXyPgpZFS8eWhozBtKIU AQPWSw8FNxvJJOOezSqQmz3XyZi8PzYRqNF/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.38.208 with SMTP id c16mr539705qce.74.1311943641822; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.192.130 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:47:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 23.3; missing menus on OS X From: Rupert Levene To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:58:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I'm running emacs 23.3 on OS X 10.6.8, and for this bug report I started it with -Q. If I click on any of the menu names in the OS X menu bar between "File" and "Buffers" inclusive, the menu does not appear at all. If I click on the "Emacs" and "Help" menus, then the menu does appear as expected. I can access all the menu commands via M-` but not through the OS X menu bar. In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.35) of 2011-03-10 on black.porkrind.org Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038 configured using `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_IE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x e m a c s C-h C-h C-h C-g r e p o r t SPC e m SPC SPC Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. goto-history-element: Beginning of history; no preceding item Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug help-mode view tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win easymenu tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) ------------=_1324449184-15893-5--