From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 01 14:08:54 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2024 18:08:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51522 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrM5W-00032p-8c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:08:54 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50204) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrM5U-00032d-Ms for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:08:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrM5M-0000h1-47 for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:08:44 -0400 Received: from smtp-35.italiaonline.it ([213.209.10.35] helo=libero.it) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrM5K-0007vE-4Q for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:08:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.229] ([82.61.120.2]) by smtp-35.iol.local with ESMTPA id rM54rMHl6XbJMrM5FrvuT0; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 20:08:37 +0200 x-libjamoibt: 1601 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libero.it; s=s2021; t=1711994917; bh=teK0dV/Lw2EuCok/8bPUPfwTXCU9iwHWgnXzVuytYDs=; h=From; b=YOh7wngUy6tbfzQYwZR+AjRiKOAcLQnpRsrenfCwzoZrzOZl5tg8xBJXNM16KoJQD IG2KPPjQDkecob3E98CuiKi1fyFqRC1MCbhq4LReoJqOZ8pcdfMv893eGUKCTGgtiD 5zz1JqYNNtBqXeAPkW1Pf5oMWR/w+/HT9M8NtrO5O3TNPzsHyEfE9Z+w+QMLLX3LTz ctidshqNOfPXuO14dIHQncwbmZT3TwjT24AyXiYk4hz8ugX/QHYtotiFiQ9CyBrIDe 1LWm2LRvd3eGrnGLDA76RLizrjwEx0KP0mxMBdenIcxJgw843ikNZsMP+YkexCl5Yf L85zzDTxi/mAA== X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=IfJMWnqa c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=660af825 cx=a_exe a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:117 a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=OJfwjQ9YNrTA95gyFTwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Message-ID: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:08:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB, en-US, it To: bug-auctex@gnu.org From: Angelo Graziosi Subject: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfEGoZXKUZWbZmOJWJYA1d+ZjqJ8Tfqxnx+qPtGvRxqAV4WS6jSQ16eWFRGizan2vgXkA97UY793S+CsR2i/ZGs+8sk+NM8KaYryHSxkQGmh+vt2SmJbt /avRpjbwA2av+yvNNkk/EnPEcDbZZFX9AmIWjX9fs1lE8x0FAjyn5he5ahomK0HARPbUvA+XRtIDNAjheM1uSptQOLb4Mc09HpM= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.209.10.35; envelope-from=angelo.g0@libero.it; helo=libero.it X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: The following happens on Windows 10 64 and Emacs 29.3-1 installed from MSYS2/UCRT64 (mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-emacs 29.3-1, released/built with native compilation ) When one starts Emacs it prints in Messages and minibuffer: Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (angelo.g0[at]libero.it) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (angelo.g0[at]libero.it) 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=angelo.g0%40libero.it; ip=2001%3A470%3A142%3A%3A17; r=debbugs.gnu.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) The following happens on Windows 10 64 and Emacs 29.3-1 installed from MSYS2/UCRT64 (mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-emacs 29.3-1, released/built with native compilation ) When one starts Emacs it prints in Messages and minibuffer: imenu-default-create-index-function: Invalid (or missing) doc string ("c:/Users/utente/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.4/tex.elc" . 301409) After this the desktop file is "emptied": restarting Emacs all buffers of the desktop file are lost (I have lost about 50 of them :-( ) For the sake of completeness: the issue does not happen with Emacs built from Master (my build): this build _does not use_ native compilation. Ciao, Angelo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 01 22:28:40 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2024 02:28:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51987 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrTt9-0007Bx-Sk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:28:40 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:47318) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrTt7-0007BA-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:28:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrTsy-0002NR-2o; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:28:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrTsx-0005Fz-5A; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:28:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3xT5I34PDof8sNChfXOdQ5lXX2ljtBO3YVMOzD91AOA=; b=puFo7+eFNn8S mbN+cphcF+oOuMrCdM5n1Uz8KyXaZnUl4G3DwV9+Y7queF4xkTDXD9dausDAtnHNoSkID38XUimCC TfQPigw/wUmo4Su5PBXlu3T0mBQv1sBoUsrwYdITAqYjDikyMRjVdu86vY2YjB/yVx9eL4f2KEmZP ovc7JfyxZNGXD/StaND9Z0AASGwmXTS9sriHO4fTtIWf5opVpzBumHKcBuLB3zV+SpLcn5WrN6f1+ z6aWY2cclPkIKnFGBXaJtZ8f0jZCj8AmgpNHxeKcR44urEDRRxko4BY5ISbMv9DuMAx8mom2OsNQ3 66BfuInSj8hLqUQY2/iQOA==; Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 05:28:24 +0300 Message-Id: <86plv8a46v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Angelo Graziosi In-Reply-To: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> (message from Angelo Graziosi on Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:08:23 +0200) Subject: Re: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-auctex@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:08:23 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Angelo Graziosi > > The following happens on Windows 10 64 and Emacs 29.3-1 installed from > MSYS2/UCRT64 (mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-emacs 29.3-1, released/built with > native compilation ) > > When one starts Emacs it prints in Messages and minibuffer: > > > imenu-default-create-index-function: Invalid (or missing) doc string > ("c:/Users/utente/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.4/tex.elc" . > 301409) > > > After this the desktop file is "emptied": restarting Emacs all buffers > of the desktop file are lost (I have lost about 50 of them :-( ) This probably means the startup was interrupted by the above error, so the desktop was not loaded, at least not completely. When this happens, if you don't want to lose your previous desktop file, you need to copy it before exiting the session that didn't restore the desktop due to such errors. > For the sake of completeness: the issue does not happen with Emacs built > from Master (my build): this build _does not use_ native compilation. Any reason to suspect that native compilation is a factor here? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 02 03:14:39 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2024 07:14:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrYLv-0002Nk-7z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 03:14:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:55594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrYLs-0002Ms-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 03:14:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrYLZ-0005pE-Ox for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 03:14:18 -0400 Received: from smtp-35.italiaonline.it ([213.209.10.35] helo=libero.it) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rrYLW-0001V6-NW for bug-auctex@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 03:14:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.229] ([82.61.120.2]) by smtp-35.iol.local with ESMTPA id rYLSrSLUzXbJMrYLTryQvE; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 09:14:11 +0200 x-libjamoibt: 1601 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libero.it; s=s2021; t=1712042051; bh=Je//Pb0TzXrgZIdZYz1RTr5RsNjTHESjJo4EKgqbPUU=; h=From; b=dvrcrDqAurJ0zWUe5Dot88CA27WMs/rwUzcubDkiWjPDpY8oHlvqoBBM/LPS9cCAL 4wk+wAphkqU7qDoXHfKgbvOMkNP3De7oQejE6m69A0WzwO5oDnNttrnEccDGPZPpnE 7BwVMKlkIsE/mrK7hPJcrruQg9RjQtUce+NnsbrWFgpez4uN7Id6BtxTWy2v0E3xwM 68Bcd15DRHbSn39RgN/t778JwcceXrfL/AiorZBSQVnMFetRmHCuqJcOAHpMQyuPpG EjSJ0JxloB2gB+jeEzETzf7oSKWDOIbRSfQiWxxADlJ4vTGYzbcXR8Gi4p5rdlGLQH 9ieH7LQmh9yxw== X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=IfJMWnqa c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=660bb043 cx=a_exe a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:117 a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=fOijAEETyxIF6MZNTRsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Message-ID: <5dd695f2-9150-45b5-8ff7-03d45857f6f6@libero.it> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 09:14:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 To: Eli Zaretskii References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <86plv8a46v.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB, en-US, it From: Angelo Graziosi In-Reply-To: <86plv8a46v.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfGUsXu2DvmcsotzuNloZlX9eF07VN/k5OFHSb7k+UE276S1/wqN9OBvr7Qe7MRS0thYKYKOU0NDy5bNMAWkff7YpLFQCSQSu7LapG5yKvJ2abWN6J/W/ /6TRc822K+ahZ5pkA925O0xiNJAQuUxxtTIlayf4+rj2uKNfazB9hnHiPPwKaOTaJ6Ei7NmtDM2SiWaCroAAZk51zh9k4tzfM0CIzWq2d5di7JOt+aF64gIQ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.209.10.35; envelope-from=angelo.g0@libero.it; helo=libero.it X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Il 02/04/2024 04:28, Eli Zaretskii ha scritto: > > Any reason to suspect that native compilation is a factor here? No, I don't think. I reported that for completeness.. Since AUCTeX 14 was released there were small issues with Emacs 29 but none of them "killed" the desktop file.. Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (angelo.g0[at]libero.it) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (angelo.g0[at]libero.it) 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=angelo.g0%40libero.it; ip=2001%3A470%3A142%3A%3A17; r=debbugs.gnu.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-auctex@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Il 02/04/2024 04:28, Eli Zaretskii ha scritto: > > Any reason to suspect that native compilation is a factor here? No, I don't think. I reported that for completeness.. Since AUCTeX 14 was released there were small issues with Emacs 29 but none of them "killed" the desktop file.. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 02 04:52:42 2024 Received: (at 70128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2024 08:52:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52333 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrZsn-0001tJ-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:52:42 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:35006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rrZsj-0001sQ-DD for 70128@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:52:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-34-11.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.34.11]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 73F4762; Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:52:31 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita To: Angelo Graziosi Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 In-reply-to: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> Comments: In-reply-to Angelo Graziosi via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX message dated "Mon, 01 Apr 2024 20:08:23 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 17:52:30 +0900 Message-ID: <15969.1712047950@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 70128@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Angelo, >>>>> Angelo Graziosi via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX writes: > The following happens on Windows 10 64 and Emacs 29.3-1 installed from > MSYS2/UCRT64 (mingw-w64-ucrt-x86_64-emacs 29.3-1, released/built with > native compilation ) > When one starts Emacs it prints in Messages and minibuffer: > imenu-default-create-index-function: Invalid (or missing) doc string > ("c:/Users/utente/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.4/tex.elc" > . 301409) I don't understand why this error occurred, but this entry in CHANGES entry may be related: ,---- | =E2=88=92 If your Emacs is 29 or newer and you use =E2=80=98deskt= op.el=E2=80=99 to save | and restore Emacs sessions, be careful before you update | AUCTeX; You should attempt to update only after | 1. you kill all buffer under former AUCTeX modes which have | overlapped name with Emacs built-in TeX modes, and | 2. you terminate the current Emacs session. | The modes with such overlapped name are =E2=80=98plain-tex-mode= =E2=80=99, | =E2=80=98latex-mode=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98doctex-mode=E2=80=99 and= =E2=80=98texinfo-mode=E2=80=99. (The above | prescription ensures no buffer of such modes is recorded in | the desktop file. Otherwise those buffers would be restored | in the built-in modes, not AUCTeX modes, after the update of | AUCTeX.) `---- If emacs tried to restore the buffer in the built-in latex-mode, something inconsistent which led to the reported error could happen...? > After this the desktop file is "emptied": restarting Emacs all buffers > of the desktop file are lost (I have lost about 50 of them :-( ) Sorry for that. =F0=9F=98=A3 Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 03 11:28:18 2024 Received: (at 70128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2024 15:28:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rs2XB-0004lB-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 11:28:18 -0400 Received: from smtp-35.italiaonline.it ([213.209.10.35]:46420 helo=libero.it) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rs2X7-0004k4-AO for 70128@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 11:28:14 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.229] ([82.61.120.2]) by smtp-35.iol.local with ESMTPA id s2VvrhoCcXbJMs2WurB8wB; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:28:02 +0200 x-libjamoibt: 1601 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libero.it; s=s2021; t=1712158082; bh=KrLyOPnhY3u8FKVwbjBDJU8zFeK9C7QgJVoP2RPwE5s=; h=From; b=QrcQcqI5yMJtGIgixQke4E92tbc+xcgbio0IA3lgylupiU5PnZPLF4/QHKfLriqxd +V8xKSwK3tR6CcyOi7aOg2R7i8nlq/k0I4ECcmvli6gXl9EE1KYfzw616b0ZHdUUYO cuTL51a99I9HhyCRFuLPse0zhNh84oX6RUr34Pqo9MZX0sheVseKCJzmBkrBiHICds mtgoEC/8pB3usuDg/81wcsTPHYVRcEp1B0PpVY6DsBg/RpquoHnPKnDNQFvgCaLBTt fVb6JOpYp4YpnMtr++UDO1WRPWLNS91Kei9wa2jMjPvAnXgnvxgJ8Lk06fhlCGmJll N2KXoae7Ic49Q== X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=IfJMWnqa c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=660d7582 cx=a_exe a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:117 a=bz0U+YzvReeOsZD4fsHjXg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EGN4dnh8ctxbJtJ9vg4A:9 a=3ZKOabzyN94A:10 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 17:26:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 To: Ikumi Keita References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <15969.1712047950@localhost> Content-Language: en-GB, en-US, it From: Angelo Graziosi In-Reply-To: <15969.1712047950@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfMTmvbXu6nwnsU1xgC5OcN5Wljy/7ocFj4heUlDVo0/BgqjAWvu0U5eiqgPDfVfM5cBzJ2NmTvmSppjWw2O9LMMoXE6elPHyuq8dAY/r63qZ/OmkEpek SpLQy4p8FpwPaayP13VQP7LuLA4T0wHFKjDy9k/f24Qc/GvA8PB0/uehLybIIuffEeRZ7BC0SzYKXTCCNdVv03IoT6bouN+NpyIE2wadLKk3PpuPl8dClCak c8JIgt9JUGd973Oc0TsnRQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 70128@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Il 02/04/2024 10:52, Ikumi Keita ha scritto: > I don't understand why this error occurred, but this entry in CHANGES > entry may be related: > ,---- > | − If your Emacs is 29 or newer and you use ‘desktop.el’ to save > | and restore Emacs sessions, be careful before you update > | AUCTeX; You should attempt to update only after > | 1. you kill all buffer under former AUCTeX modes which have > | overlapped name with Emacs built-in TeX modes, and > | 2. you terminate the current Emacs session. > | The modes with such overlapped name are ‘plain-tex-mode’, > | ‘latex-mode’, ‘doctex-mode’ and ‘texinfo-mode’. (The above > | prescription ensures no buffer of such modes is recorded in > | the desktop file. Otherwise those buffers would be restored > | in the built-in modes, not AUCTeX modes, after the update of > | AUCTeX.) > `---- It is the first time I hear this. I used my builds of AUCTeX for a long time when Emacs was 22 or 23 and never saw this kind of issues.. If things are so, maybe it is better do not use AUCTeX at all... or not? Ciao, Angelo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 03 12:12:09 2024 Received: (at 70128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2024 16:12:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rs3Da-0000Km-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 12:12:09 -0400 Received: from smtp1a.inetd.co.jp ([210.129.88.11]:38302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rs3DV-0000KF-7i for 70128@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 12:12:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (42-144-34-11.rev.home.ne.jp [42.144.34.11]) by smtp1a.inetd.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7139360; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:11:54 +0900 (JST) From: Ikumi Keita To: Angelo Graziosi Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 In-reply-to: References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <15969.1712047950@localhost> Comments: In-reply-to Angelo Graziosi message dated "Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:26:59 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8; Emacs 29.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 01:11:53 +0900 Message-ID: <9470.1712160713@localhost> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 70128@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Angelo, >>>>> Angelo Graziosi writes: >> ,---- >> | $B!](B If your Emacs is 29 or newer and you use $B!F(Bdesktop.el$B!G(B to save >> | and restore Emacs sessions, be careful before you update >> | AUCTeX; You should attempt to update only after >> | 1. you kill all buffer under former AUCTeX modes which have >> | overlapped name with Emacs built-in TeX modes, and >> | 2. you terminate the current Emacs session. >> | The modes with such overlapped name are $B!F(Bplain-tex-mode$B!G(B, >> | $B!F(Blatex-mode$B!G(B, $B!F(Bdoctex-mode$B!G(B and $B!F(Btexinfo-mode$B!G(B. (The above >> | prescription ensures no buffer of such modes is recorded in >> | the desktop file. Otherwise those buffers would be restored >> | in the built-in modes, not AUCTeX modes, after the update of >> | AUCTeX.) >> `---- > It is the first time I hear this. I used my builds of AUCTeX for a > long time when Emacs was 22 or 23 and never saw this kind of issues.. AUCTeX changed its major mode names at version 14. The above entry warns about incompatibility caused by that change. > If things are so, maybe it is better do not use AUCTeX at all... or not? I think you don't have to worry about that. In general, the major mode names are unlikely to change easily. This update to version 14 is very exceptional. Regards, Ikumi Keita #StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine #Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 18 16:42:31 2024 Received: (at 70128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 20:42:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxYaV-0008TP-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:42:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45418) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxYaS-0008SX-J0 for 70128@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:42:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxYa6-0003cL-I7; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:42:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=PiuZM89VzV1qdBTye1I+LFNr8AIJsqBM9eUlmr991J4=; b=Xc/qmRCi1nvF8FO2nAl6 Tu5Mk4FVyhSpLPr74PSiei2WAAT2E3nmC2caRb/QX1Zd7Ue2JkqVYVAACL7ThvdkDF9JZHAlUn0YJ DWxr91wOf3R/isfLT1MC+FenssTyLJ4LBl8eMqwjg/9PwrnvmTXPNIUwIpWji3fJ8W2fq5p7dul/y TBSOtGlo3nUD7TL7qHf0gDjc18773hnZ0ItnVN1CQwS1v/16GVrHbsRea3zrbnzKzYafa4kuaUXWm CQCD46KAvkwAqY745VbJtwMwgQV5KJqSRTkGbr1TpQRoQuNLraFNb1HQyYgKonfSKbOsfbWD1AngU UTv2eaIIcVm4+Q==; From: Arash Esbati To: Ikumi Keita Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 In-Reply-To: <9470.1712160713__34035.2430402831$1712160802$gmane$org@localhost> (Ikumi Keita's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2024 01:11:53 +0900") References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <15969.1712047950@localhost> <9470.1712160713__34035.2430402831$1712160802$gmane$org@localhost> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:42:01 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128 Cc: 70128@debbugs.gnu.org, Angelo Graziosi , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ikumi Keita writes: >>>>>> Angelo Graziosi writes: > >> It is the first time I hear this. I used my builds of AUCTeX for a >> long time when Emacs was 22 or 23 and never saw this kind of issues.. > > AUCTeX changed its major mode names at version 14. The above entry warns > about incompatibility caused by that change. > >> If things are so, maybe it is better do not use AUCTeX at all... or not? > > I think you don't have to worry about that. In general, the major mode > names are unlikely to change easily. This update to version 14 is very > exceptional. Is there anything we can do here about this or can we close this report? It is unfortune that Angelo went through this hassle, but ... Best, Arash From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 18 17:36:15 2024 Received: (at 70128) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 21:36:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxZQU-0006SY-Sp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:36:15 -0400 Received: from smtp-31-wd.italiaonline.it ([213.209.13.31]:32854 helo=libero.it) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxZQR-0006RK-Sg for 70128@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 17:36:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.229] ([87.16.208.87]) by smtp-31.iol.local with ESMTPA id xZPCr9o4o5isBxZQ7r2UEV; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 23:35:52 +0200 x-libjamoibt: 1601 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libero.it; s=s2021; t=1713476152; bh=/bTdYnMuDD0F0LO1wYFiGaGGXfsDKaAVE9UVzrA53vY=; h=From; b=RDwIUwaj6iIEDoTYc2Xludg7A2nGKaXdKqAh7JwnGZUBSBmD+waqvyC0DNT66DKok erZDJddNNuKcXaj2qsISNb7lRvW99PZzIa2gpID/yFjqowY83A6RsApZCSyuzOyqLy LxqLQlc3dMD9hnvZIKjwL1CCRUjWODenizRLfiDUxj2er143J3exs9J43swICax196 ebFlA0FIXDCsOaM8CjCHmg6tkBZJhcjEJw25rVThmq20RNathZZaAMytzVQRdIYmey BOksnVEc0Z/eCFSqizFJbYsAeqyMoz3ls/IwSW5qkZF/toRoDaN5VoCZYMwKnfNuBg EuVmtC+FsKlrg== X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=FtXO/Hrq c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=66219238 cx=a_exe a=fJKpnrbwkCEgJlVsIXQUcA==:117 a=fJKpnrbwkCEgJlVsIXQUcA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=2e3sPH6Xtpkfin_7u3IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Message-ID: <4bd9120e-4224-49ef-b7e0-bca8f30d8bcf@libero.it> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 23:34:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 To: Arash Esbati , Ikumi Keita References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <15969.1712047950@localhost> <9470.1712160713__34035.2430402831$1712160802$gmane$org@localhost> Content-Language: en-GB, en-US, it From: Angelo Graziosi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfEGAH+hpWsXED3PnYv6m5r7nxRMlOcFHM26dkQA/CnCKTQ1rKkKfedkHBTE5pGwwjFEw+LEMVdQaE+Bvrh9igxvOij2tetbc9rUW+Eo0/m2sUMWdOFs2 t82TjF8F+lqgv6PElXURvMgBVBcl/w/Kel6M68WRiSJuHpWclMjZ9A2NR3oNx4QGORxs8ZvXi92utBEHqOufkfIOyDy9br9c2p13VZTLruOIsVuY3Km2rC9/ KVEe011S9DG8pMEQiO56VLCa0fJvafprCzUtPcGU73w= X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128 Cc: 70128@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Il 18/04/2024 22:42, Arash Esbati ha scritto: > Ikumi Keita writes: > >>>>>>> Angelo Graziosi writes: >> >>> It is the first time I hear this. I used my builds of AUCTeX for a >>> long time when Emacs was 22 or 23 and never saw this kind of issues.. >> >> AUCTeX changed its major mode names at version 14. The above entry warns >> about incompatibility caused by that change. >> >>> If things are so, maybe it is better do not use AUCTeX at all... or not? >> >> I think you don't have to worry about that. In general, the major mode >> names are unlikely to change easily. This update to version 14 is very >> exceptional. > > Is there anything we can do here about this or can we close this report? > It is unfortune that Angelo went through this hassle, but ... I had to recreate the desktop file to allow it works both with Emacs 29 and master.. I think you can close this... thanks. Ciao, Angelo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 18 18:09:21 2024 Received: (at 70128-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 22:09:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxZwW-00022K-4g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:09:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxZwS-000219-AI for 70128-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:09:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxZw5-0001mC-RK; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:08:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=VZwuMjrfhfyGbZWYq3wY0B79IUhwwzE8IazA4o+DG6g=; b=oYczwhLzrtWTxV1DKZFR nNaG25K1DGaCikwTrNzZrtbfBVbhDCWcYMkaqyj1bUqWZIRBGHD/vOEzC9EeM+TZBIiBXivwt5Fc+ E5zTZSOTdfIm+TeowuBhhNkjSK4OgKO9SUX/GWgDrj6IaZo5P8KoaE8C2eNQXzi0gzlXRAqP1ZoVd YkJO6VoPN7rXhLo+rtO4zEbFX384Bvj0OxgzA05c193DnZthJMLlIqQxhMqn27ddvlYsOnIy/abOs vQ07MxD2DYb3B9B23l5+mcji9c97KsidVfF4jzi3fhYMTq65SD3OCKqT9Z5oCv1o/GA5po6+rCd7K tQjVipUhhFFKuQ==; From: Arash Esbati To: Angelo Graziosi Subject: Re: bug#70128: Issue after upgrading ELPA-auctex 14.0.4 In-Reply-To: <4bd9120e-4224-49ef-b7e0-bca8f30d8bcf@libero.it> (Angelo Graziosi's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2024 23:34:53 +0200") References: <713b2924-7ee9-45e2-8a7d-8f34900467b5@libero.it> <15969.1712047950@localhost> <9470.1712160713__34035.2430402831$1712160802$gmane$org@localhost> <4bd9120e-4224-49ef-b7e0-bca8f30d8bcf@libero.it> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:08:48 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70128-done Cc: 70128-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Ikumi Keita , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Angelo Graziosi writes: > I had to recreate the desktop file to allow it works both with Emacs > 29 and master.. > > I think you can close this... thanks. Thanks for your response, and sorry for the hassle. Closing. Best, Arash From unknown Sat Aug 16 15:58:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator