From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:16:47 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#69788 <69788@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#69788 <69788@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: zcat, zgrep and other (g)zutils' names Reply-To: bug#69788 <69788@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:16:47 +0000 retitle 69788 zcat, zgrep and other (g)zutils' names reassign 69788 gzip submitter 69788 wrotycz severity 69788 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 13 22:48:00 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2024 02:48:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47666 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkb8R-0003RT-OV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:48:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkUrd-0006Su-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:06:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rkUqz-0002Zd-Hx for bug-gzip@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from mx-out.tlen.pl ([193.222.135.140]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rkUqx-00081q-7m for bug-gzip@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:05:33 -0400 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.tlen.pl 774 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2024 21:05:22 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wir.pl; s=1024a; t=1710360322; bh=WKA2tqQz1WUXjDlrkE9SCaFeS8trQ/5HhWcYmbT6t3Q=; h=Subject:From:To; b=e2m9MHTwIZh6MB+bwBIK5qhV3aRIRIykjsLl8DYUHOCjvfIAv4/lRilnVnllo3QI2 jmMIvNz5POYd4D3i5eXixforeJsXn84eL5f95RyQ3pJmgOO14kV1b0AsXoSgMpnqER ZYCiN3nSRjbpkRJl6dQ6LWlzRvJOnNhgRl2ENSkw= Received: from localhost.localdomain (HELO localhost) ([5.184.234.228]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.tlen.pl (WP-SMTPD) with SMTP for ; 13 Mar 2024 21:05:22 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2CAOLLPDSIQCEFMGRNGGWnhgwp" MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: GWP-Draft X-FactoryStamp: H--- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:05:22 +0100 X-Draft-Variant: new X-Draft-Contenttype: text/html Priority: normal Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?zcat=2C_zgrep_and_other_=28g=29zutils=27_names?= From: wrotycz To: bug-gzip Message-ID: <0a7c4d3dd2f44642a0cb19307427958b@grupawp.pl> X-WP-MailID: a9448f48372a56a677113366a8074a60 X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy Poczty o2 X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000010 [oQN0] Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.222.135.140; envelope-from=wrotycz@wir.pl; helo=mx-out.tlen.pl X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:47:58 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --2CAOLLPDSIQCEFMGRNGGWnhgwp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 zcat, z grep and other (g)zutils Hello, I noticed, not for the first tim= e that zcat, zgrep and rest of the utils are ambiguously named. Neither gzi= p nor .gz does not begin with 'z'. All other compressors call their= utils by the name of extension, like xzcat, lzcat, zstdgrep and so on. Thi= s is more logical and less confusing. To make things worse, *nix Compress = produces .Z files and that could be using 'z' as prefix for the nam= es other its tools. It doesn't have ones but that's the point - it = would be logical to use zcat for a compress' tool name, and 'gzcat&= #39; fo gzip cat tool. And the last and not least, these zXXX names collid= e with zutils' names, which are more 'generic', in a sense that= they serve as a tools for many compressors, not only for gzip. So, for t= he reasons mentioned above and to avoid confusion I propose to rename zcat,= zgrep, etc., to gzcat, gzgrep, etc. Hope you understand the request. Re= gards wrotycz=0D --2CAOLLPDSIQCEFMGRNGGWnhgwp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
zcat, z grep and other (g)zutils

Hello,
I noticed, not for the first time that zcat, zgrep and rest of= the utils are ambiguously named. Neither gzip nor .gz does not begin with = 'z'. All other compressors call their utils by the name of extension, like = xzcat, lzcat, zstdgrep and so on. This is more logical and less confusing.<= br>
To make things worse, *nix Compress produces .Z files and tha= t could be using 'z' as prefix for the names other its tools. It doesn't ha= ve ones but that's the point - it would be logical to use zcat for a compre= ss' tool name, and 'gzcat' fo gzip cat tool.
And the last and= not least, these zXXX names collide with zutils' names, which are more 'ge= neric', in a sense that they serve as a tools for many compressors, not onl= y for gzip.

So, for the reasons mentioned abov= e and to avoid confusion I propose to rename zcat, zgrep, etc., to gzcat, g= zgrep, etc.
Hope you understand the request.
Regards
wrotycz

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