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When opening a json file using it's -ts-mode, bre= ad-crumb-mode causes a big performance impact. This performance impact seem= s to be more than linear i nrealtion to file size,=C2=A0 doubling in size c= auses more than doubling the time until emacs becomes responsible again, li= kely because it contains more than double the number of nodes to parse.

Many other popular editors contain a breadcrumb-featu= re and having that feature for json, yaml, xml, ... files seems "natur= al".
--0000000000001f20a106132259f4-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 09 02:24:51 2024 Received: (at 69630) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2024 07:24:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rir4d-0001D6-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 02:24:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rir4c-0001Ct-5U for 69630@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 02:24:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rir40-0004Vi-8n; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 02:24:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=jNyiye4kiX2A0PhFJBOGG+rXnGGIbC4u+keA3FLpi0w=; b=ATSpRg8pMjjetTeKnRmL guDbCjCc/Bi1rfiTxcTKlMFGYenlBYGZcbFopDGW/QrceChVqk4yW50MirRwbzsyBM0mtgPtyyOz1 DpYfLiGLZMzU2EFKphGa5LN6bMu40OPPba6YkofcOEUiTcqswHt2YN5B0yrFG3AJHxKfbolGhzOZm BNli51iHg+gmb70nI/EccN+/S8MKTkGy+5NuRmax1dsmh2alMjobGsHftGRIAnE1H9xmoMuBH8mYz gbKPQQtmLdxYtdxDtfQZJCUjiWd21MhBP6gYmB487uX9noDuOK26DtooJHpPzqqznrPuErxpPxNC3 kgc4Hcnh3zOrsA==; Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 09:24:09 +0200 Message-Id: <867cibzx46.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Johann =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= In-Reply-To: (message from Johann =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= on Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:54:54 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#69630: breadcrumb-mode and json-ts-mode (possibly yaml-ts-mode, others) performance References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69630 Cc: 69630@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Johann Höchtl > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:54:54 +0100 > > When opening a json file using it's -ts-mode, bread-crumb-mode causes a big performance impact. This > performance impact seems to be more than linear i nrealtion to file size, doubling in size causes more than > doubling the time until emacs becomes responsible again, likely because it contains more than double the > number of nodes to parse. > > Many other popular editors contain a breadcrumb-feature and having that feature for json, yaml, xml, ... files > seems "natural". Isn't that a bug (or mis-feature) in breadcrumb-mode that you should report to the developers of breadcrumb-mode? IOW, why did you think the right place to report this is here? Any evidence that something in Emacs core is causing the performance issue? Thanks. 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Best, Johann On 09.03.24 08:24, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Johann Höchtl >> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:54:54 +0100 >> >> When opening a json file using it's -ts-mode, bread-crumb-mode causes a big performance [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.208.46 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [213.147.167.187 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.208.46 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (johann.hoechtl[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Oh sorry, I erroneously assumed breadcrumb-mode was an Emacs core feature, I will report it against the authors Github repo. Best, Johann On 09.03.24 08:24, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Johann Höchtl >> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:54:54 +0100 >> >> When opening a json file using it's -ts-mode, bread-crumb-mode causes a big performance impact. This >> performance impact seems to be more than linear i nrealtion to file size, doubling in size causes more than >> doubling the time until emacs becomes responsible again, likely because it contains more than double the >> number of nodes to parse. >> >> Many other popular editors contain a breadcrumb-feature and having that feature for json, yaml, xml, ... files >> seems "natural". > Isn't that a bug (or mis-feature) in breadcrumb-mode that you should > report to the developers of breadcrumb-mode? > > IOW, why did you think the right place to report this is here? Any > evidence that something in Emacs core is causing the performance > issue? > > Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 09 13:38:57 2024 Received: (at 69630-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2024 18:38:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34819 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rj1az-0006Nm-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:38:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rj1aw-0006NY-Qo for 69630-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:38:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rj1aK-0003y9-OB; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:38:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=DS1juQ1dcTdwQvth7JD/V552guAXlL7+XH0lgZ+BwdU=; b=fslAGy3HMS+USaSpDbzk aDhRFIXPI9ww0t9KZ93zXE+8cldz+0sR9RutQ27jxYiIVhxTZ5EGC4HeoXr9F7KXumPDWa4CseaYA uwEyJRopfqIpvLcPrKTgaKgIZJiYFhtBLj0eLWXDvrAwACky8kql1A8QLMenC3uAlV7znJV4D3W/H nGKILx/mJV7lN4/sHdh1cCbRhRjzkQmo79s21wA6vDtgaz0Gea7SQxIgA2NdDHAWnhGArBF8S8VmB /a88AdhqChNQ4RbWMIkwn1kxchpg27zI4YWKxwjdNBOHTcD8utGSWofjYU/M17E4iDMuNsLGZ8ORD 7xlVduV9f6Y0pQ==; Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:38:14 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmqbw8rt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Johann =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= In-Reply-To: <1788796a-5e70-4127-87c7-836d383f0847@gmail.com> (message from Johann =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B6chtl?= on Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:11:07 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#69630: breadcrumb-mode and json-ts-mode (possibly yaml-ts-mode, others) performance References: <867cibzx46.fsf@gnu.org> <1788796a-5e70-4127-87c7-836d383f0847@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69630-done Cc: 69630-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:11:07 +0100 > Cc: 69630@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Johann Höchtl > > Oh sorry, I erroneously assumed breadcrumb-mode was an Emacs core > feature, I will report it against the authors Github repo. OK, so I'm closing this bug. If it turns out it's a core problem, we can reopen it. Thanks. From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:14:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 11:24:24 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator