GNU bug report logs - #6960
mv refuses to move a symlink over a hard link to the same file

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Package: coreutils;

Reported by: Matt McCutchen <matt <at> mattmccutchen.net>

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:27:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Jim Meyering <jim <at> meyering.net>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Message #23 received at 6960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Meyering <jim <at> meyering.net>
To: "Voelker\, Bernhard" <bernhard.voelker <at> siemens-enterprise.com>
Cc: Matt McCutchen <matt <at> mattmccutchen.net>, 6960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6960: mv refuses to move a symlink over a hard link to the
	same	file
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:28:18 +0200

Voelker, Bernhard wrote:
> Jim Meyering wrote:
>
>> It is a deliberate feature.
>>
>> Personally, I prefer the semantics of 'mv -f --backup=numbered'
>> so use a shell alias.
>
> just for fun I tried to get no backup created and tried '--backup=never',
> but a backup is still created (version 8.5 on Cygwin, and 5.93 on SLES-10.3):
>
> $ uname -a > a
> $ ln -s a b
> $ mv -v --backup=never b a
> `b' -> `a' (backup: `a~')
> $ ls -l a a~
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 vb027591 ugrp  1 2010-09-02 11:50 a -> a
> -rw-r--r--+ 1 vb027591 ugrp 69 2010-09-02 11:50 a~
>
> I expected mv either to fail as if --backup=... is not given,
> or that it moves the file without creating a backup.
>
> Maybe I'm a bit confused that the combination of the words "backup"
> and "never" contrasts to what it does: it _creates_ a backup
> - though mentioned in manual:
>
> $ man mv
> ...
>        simple, never
>               always make simple backups
>
> Am I just misunderstanding the backup CONTROL "never"?

--backup=never means "never make numbered backups; always make single
backups", quoting emacs documentation (see 'Single or Numbered Backups' in
info emacs).  That's where that ambiguous name originated.

Or perhaps more relevant, see "info coreutils mv":

    `simple'
    `never'
          Always make simple backups.  Please note `never' is not to be
          confused with `none'.

When in doubt, refer to the "info" documentation,
not the man page.
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