From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 31 09:27:14 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2010 13:27:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQrp-0007Yz-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:27:13 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQrn-0007Yu-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:27:12 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:48217) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQtN-0004QR-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:28:49 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43455 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OqQtH-0002hE-AQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:28:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQtC-000052-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:28:43 -0400 Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5]:35050 helo=homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OqQtC-0008WH-5I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:28:38 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D07B28406C for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:28:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=EoC22IAARKxYW4+K6JyEIyEvgrFoHMyqIOuYZQrG01rpwWa5zNS3oIJ8YXRL dFsRMipi7qiCT3CnVY3aypWY9KuuKwYR6gNSKzQdM6rX4xvfdPS68EYH7UY4ab4F bIsyGmzgQP5D6urXus7a6PXNpMFAx6PiIUCxDyD0TW/tFdI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=00doBSQgZ98WWDLO4mWikjscUaU=; b=KHQNyz3bAoNMlFag NGBInomcfYVOrkjfjhu/ELJWcynm+ZlsPfESgBdl9n1hgpdXMSOOcFGju1ymBYx1 BHlKE1ndZnkQ2W07oRpRx6mjVnUgHDhkW3RiAjI79D6InqrsKIM3Zh9G+sva64im FJD1YedW8mT7y+Y/0TiqKNBjpRU= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-0-24.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.0.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91F1428406A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: all viewed images left sitting in buffer-list Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:41:56 +0800 Message-ID: <87eidfar8r.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) v runs the command dired-view-file When run on a normal file, a subsequent q is q runs the command View-quit But when run upon a .jpg file, a subsequent q is q runs the command quit-window Which leaves the buffer sitting around in the buffer-list! C-x C-b runs the command list-buffers emacs-version "24.0.50.1" I don't know how you will wish to solve this problem. But please don't ask the user to do C-u q when finished viewing an image vs. q for when finished viewing a text file. 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14 Jul 2011 14:03:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMVP-000448-MZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:03:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMUs-00041N-H6; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:02:38 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhMUZ-00072c-K4; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:02:15 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:58:16 -0400") Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:53:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87wrfxwf7y.fsf@jidanni.org> <87fwmkvkf0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Depeche Mode's _Some Great Reward_: "It Doesn't Matter" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:jidanni@jidanni.org::alROaUBE4+6jq8qw:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000006U5x X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::UBNNivfc/4fcdV5I:0000000000000000000000000000000000000Mp2o X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:8615@debbugs.gnu.org::uvI0j7onPr/M4OMz:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000R5yH X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:cyd@stupidchicken.com::BqUKFwF4qx9yJv5r:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000VbUa X-Hashcash: 1:23:110714:6954@debbugs.gnu.org::/lXw/+FbPL3dsmep:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001EEGi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhMUZ-00072c-K4 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311256935.73255@Y2joUx4xsunIgl5jjiatYA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: Chong Yidong , 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: > C-u q does. And in any case, I was just describing the usual binding > used in special-modes, regardless of whether it behaves like view-mode. > FWIW, I find view-mode's behavior generally odd and hard to predict (as > a user), so I don't think it's crucial to always follow its lead. No, but it would be nice if `v' in dired always did the same thing with `q'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 17:27:26 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 21:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhpur-0002cw-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:27:26 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.145] helo=homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhpum-0002ce-RB; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:27:20 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEED20806E; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=KYWvCpnKQhAzBHTekCq0ufVeyUZXryAc+W3/6n1/JNgh4tjiE 9J50zXUj4As+m8c1DGA90s215ujgGrLBoJgtjrcRD90SUNShO7NokMBeN/8xAbvM LXjbNgmh+6HZfssXpcaWFsQ4IbnVcgPO8XpIGD6Lr561wKRv2xAIVYbSlE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=UQ2Gq4sY1/ObsGoHOtKAzsmPtEQ=; b=h8cYMI9PwLRx1 JqMvq6dVPAfXz5FrhhQkXX0s0rDsbVMcfgX3Gi2FzhcLw2Irdl8J12CNu7FTmq0t x0axCo567Bf0nEHlGe7wuoNcp4Ht65QAyynCm8/HN5NdIfFJPAAzC+p332z3ChTD zdNf8eNHyYycuZXQn2IpctdPvOFOro= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-108.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 156F620806C; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: larsi@gnus.org Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:27:06 +0800 Message-ID: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) Now broken even more in emacs-snapshot: Installed: 1:20110705-1 $ emacs -Q a_directory_with_images type v on an image type q Now guess what we are looking at? Back to the directory? No. You folks buried it! And the image is also buried, not killed, too! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 17:30:47 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 21:30:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhpy7-0003YV-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:30:47 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhpxx-0003KW-Ph; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:30:37 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhpxk-00054f-7T; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:30:20 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files In-Reply-To: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:27:06 +0800") Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:30:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUZCggfDw0lExFTLi0c DAoWBwZglQfRAAACWElEQVQ4jY1TQZIbIQzUOHAfsezdgP2Ahc0dZjV3yjb//0pajF3ZVHIIh6kp urpbagkqJafy/aQUca4U/33+D2B2fwOBmYU5hD+B41qksXsigQ4Jdp4Wao1biIfeASihEhnT8Dfv iwKOefUkppKAMwmpPBmt1QqCvBhFAXVmszdrSDh8A9Q7iEAKH6/NaEbKCDDx0xwFBxefAP7YM0m3 RNDiA8hgpMDeG0PVeONFPZ5AyeiieSjR4onjC8AHDg0U9VieUpHgE4L3DRUJN233aQ4CAJTlq3Go ajaRJhCdttj8GyIU9xvIIM8YyyuoOXnKUPU6I7m0yCjxADT2EIM3TZDiBtvvgFMhby5knF7NotIr dk/5g74AZCh8YNcopjjnXWvtJWvxLvgtAIAFi19XJDLFVQBVUIiaOZ+R7KbxBL9UTOWLlMDRr5gs GirxUs1ajWwUArrCSkl1ycRyaaJj8e5YOHjDr9BSvCHU3c1G4GPdcjjllkiK0IV0MqJA4JD3Wlp8 R10/x24tWVEppB6r2bZ9SF7OfWD6vU4P7Bu2J5Vw/+xk7WIXkbkl0WGnN9l7Ot8q9WXYxqSr6+f8 VrqVYYcea5rOI6bMoZpW+6VTHxNclIGcNengaYzH6IBGX44G346X/EkDGIGFZVKhlJDRAztNt+cT TB/z4UTdS0450jSWOu5Z08WmrTro1cC220EACmFgtVrkWhDS1rux3ez0o+igDK2n/UzW1PvneFCn Q4o99ffHvg/bia9Di7XjvlPkqn+Q7hTHdRzn1inU3pcVjY2TOR1lKen6Cy4NqooS7o3uAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: LCD Soundsystem's _LCD Soundsystem (1)_: "On Repeat" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:jidanni@jidanni.org::YfoKPP/nsf0BLBFP:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000003eI8 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:cyd@stupidchicken.com::lPiEG4tgJsX9e71t:00000000000000000000000000000000000000006N2M X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::Owc4xumUqaxZbJ+B:0000000000000000000000000000000000000Lpw2 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:6954@debbugs.gnu.org::k43rL7IXXtK5r9vJ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000gfxL X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:8615@debbugs.gnu.org::LC7iVY3zJoSnLdys:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001YgvU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qhpxk-00054f-7T X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311370220.49329@VbkusxNx/glFPkTZ9B3EjA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > Now broken even more in > emacs-snapshot: > Installed: 1:20110705-1 > > $ emacs -Q a_directory_with_images > type v on an image > type q > Now guess what we are looking at? > Back to the directory? > No. > You folks buried it! > And the image is also buried, not killed, too! I don't think anything has actually changed with the bug you reported, but yeah, wow. `q' popped to a totally different buffer than I expected. Is this a part of the switch-to-buffer/window thingie rework? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 18:57:52 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 22:57:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhrKS-0005Xb-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:57:52 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhrKO-0005XI-Kz; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:57:50 -0400 Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so1478415iye.3 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r+fweW+OYmN4zDQR7suA6it+MGnQ4DNfSA6Q+aY+si0=; b=jvvS4Sq6DvZzpLZX8Y5XRqPKNYbMbMNc/+sZflOW2MeqruzTwZOrwUEdQKxmyupjOH PHftMIbwvVFzMNR1ztg7ilQwvu8eNz9PJpwgxtMg3LWfTWl5rK/8op4xd48HrOrTwgFg oVz61nAIWrMvGt4MMoqWcjMUoG2cCLsuiy1wU= Received: by 10.42.154.8 with SMTP id o8mr2148860icw.503.1310770662869; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (71-208-199-22.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.199.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm1846605icy.9.2011.07.15.15.57.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E20C5DE.6070107@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:57:34 -0600 From: Christoph Scholtes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On 7/15/2011 3:30 PM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> $ emacs -Q a_directory_with_images >> type v on an image >> type q >> Now guess what we are looking at? >> Back to the directory? >> No. >> You folks buried it! >> And the image is also buried, not killed, too! > > I don't think anything has actually changed with the bug you reported, > but yeah, wow. `q' popped to a totally different buffer than I > expected. > > Is this a part of the switch-to-buffer/window thingie rework? I can reproduce the described behavior with build from a couple of minutes ago. According to describe-key, the `q' key is bound to quit-window. The `q' key should bury the buffer (image). `z' will kill it. All of this is consistent with image-mode using special-mode map, which maps `q' to quit-window and `z' to kill buffer. Not sure though, why `q' does not switch back to the dired buffer. It seems to put the dired buffer second in the buffer list and switch to the buffer which is first in the list. Christoph From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 19:22:31 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 23:22:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhriI-00067K-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:22:30 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.145] helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhriG-000672-KM; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:22:29 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7297F10AFAB; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:22:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=WJFzJ3iVw/HYjOcf/ELOQ5n1zO41qHG16gHTMa8IuH6JpqJCs rE0f14AUlwdUbpiWGVQGtkUt77BCjrnkqoHrhhMOGXs03m2ambB/ceCSFdfe0PcQ uYNz4HfXi3TEiibzGCqqYjlEEd7pxFRPdfq4f/LHfx6VWbnk8bYKbf3ZUM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=z+pr7q56RPV2MSmPJLVhJPA0t5c=; b=BqP+Dpw9z28qI gfekNWvW457CjyjqTXkiirVOpBxaJGjFnvYCDyo8GA58GCyb3t+e+EffxmpFKiLN 6F9Fm2UrBdbTmwizlAQhMaEc3YILF9eHVG+yl/QlYeNdiTUMO/B3ebIsynX1NlcP cJyoiU9rWBX3g/WL1TxiQufs2cqMm8= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-108.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0256710AFAA; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:22:21 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: cschol2112@googlemail.com Subject: Re: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <4E20C5DE.6070107@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:22:17 +0800 Message-ID: <871uxryvrq.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, larsi@gnus.org, 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) All I am asking is for the same actions for the same keys. I'm willing to learn the new keys, as long as they are consistent. Currently q and z act differently, depending on if one is viewing a image vs. non image. Even though both I got to via a "v" in dired. CS> Not sure though, why `q' does not switch back to the dired buffer. It CS> seems to put the dired buffer second in the buffer list and switch to CS> the buffer which is first in the list. That needs to be fixed too. That started last week. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 19:36:00 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 23:36:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhrvM-0006QG-Dy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:36:00 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhrvK-0006Pz-Di; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:35:59 -0400 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1480327iwn.3 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qwWgoLXnXb4QjLMcC7vQqXP3MPmJdnCoFcN0tLZczHY=; b=spQW0lqObBhzjSZDg+a3DCd7PEzhZG7QR1C4mcd/QT47E+NS65Jg8RTRZ0S4NT4iwb +kTpqwjOxIrX6t3It5n5HNnoOVcOAVQ9+xGU7YdrAZWeatDVM04L0VQRN6fxnQ38M0xD 5mI37HCNoAbXzcdUqYJAY/0xh+xn1wjYD+osk= Received: by 10.42.149.72 with SMTP id u8mr4113570icv.253.1310772952779; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (71-208-132-119.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.132.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm1079004iba.40.2011.07.15.16.35.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E20CED6.4070207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:35:50 -0600 From: Christoph Scholtes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: Re: bug#8615: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <4E20C5DE.6070107@gmail.com> <871uxryvrq.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <871uxryvrq.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) On 7/15/2011 5:22 PM, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > All I am asking is for the same actions for the same keys. > I'm willing to learn the new keys, as long as they are consistent. > Currently q and z act differently, depending on if one is viewing a > image vs. non image. > > Even though both I got to via a "v" in dired. Most other files (all?) are opened in view-mode, which binds `q' and `z' differently. I think view-mode and special-mode need to agree on how to map certain keys, e.g. `q', i.e. common operations like quit or kill-buffer. Either by deriving view-mode from special-mode or matching the maps. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 19:39:18 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 23:39:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhryY-0006VU-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:39:18 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhryU-0006VC-SK; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:39:16 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhryI-0006fQ-9E; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:39:02 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Christoph Scholtes Subject: Re: bug#8615: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files In-Reply-To: <4E20CED6.4070207@gmail.com> (Christoph Scholtes's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:35:50 -0600") Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:38:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4E20C5DE.6070107@gmail.com> <871uxryvrq.fsf@jidanni.org> <4E20CED6.4070207@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEWBhIsDAwX8/PxdXWPU 2N0ICAowMTT////+//4SEhX/JO+HAAACVklEQVQ4jVWUwYrbMBCGh5XxuTrkkFtRDZujWruG3Iwr Nj1uCAr4lkW7Aj2B97yX+Jg2jUFv25mxnGQHQsJ80v9rRqNAySEAI8ZYqRQFTAAY2O51BuoT6G47 EGjUmUC5/1kVrSnww0DPwO3eqkK1RaFMktKcF9bav6TyMXsIMQE81T/WH2ZzmGIdgntojfk9DMMH LPyVoJQdN0qtEAwgpdw7PnKwdmvtqcc4HhlIuaDFlLa2eyTQJyAXW2Rbiajb9BwJyIXE1VLegT+Y 9KhCW0iMpQi8yMX5xdqLTbHvE/gu93UX3KV725KSPc/gBSW8KzsH6+0nQH5e5A4LzImc7oA96Roy Y0xu78AS7y2WmvJMnmfwRdgYR835zKzt7gYCtvvAoMnj7bhLX4Y4jky0D5crkHT6McTKqKez92F3 B7AStMmKEEP01zqW2wnEEUK84NdDAjuow0j+cYwcXaUYPIvcHwoQdYy4z1NVjjoPJwSjadq2eIqj qwnEBwb5moRcpr7igDkfu0v8MYFwoUP5Q4ZtdFzuK4FziNjf6DEAnpzw1Ae+2iVtwHTp4ZBjG0IC eKfdiHkncIRF6YMP8XBEEGbwrSyxiyTpDzgQ4LFsAjSLWSMYsDmZoUXNz6GBmswqBiFO3hRVU9IK LtB7KsJPc60bUQoNmwn4ab2eXxZk3ETMoYNOOSiazEzdxZfmvWhgXqzm2SWAFSSQbomBFnVZtWnL 5gY0aKEb04ChYTzeAGS/EKhHdVXnGABaZRqjjsf+feBMjz/e8Tlnq/7DtOmfZTXwU17hz/9AaVrq Q1IuCQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: LCD Soundsystem's _This Is Happening_: "Dance Yrself Clean" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:6954@debbugs.gnu.org::UgNaWgg5cH8mpEXe:000000000000000000000000000000000000000001GBU X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:cyd@stupidchicken.com::2NCvCOK+qulZpb7t:00000000000000000000000000000000000000006CEE X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:8615@debbugs.gnu.org::233HTO/eNZFzBsFg:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000UKAf X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:emacs-devel@gnu.org::jaXWkyk3G/wVYvxG:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000U4x6 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:cschol2112@googlemail.com::pd1kqoVN4blZDx8C:000000000000000000000000000000000000YLis X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:jidanni@jidanni.org::otmP/hsEvd8e234c:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000rfVu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhryI-0006fQ-9E X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311377942.44328@CGpQcyab717c3J96TjOXWg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Christoph Scholtes writes: > Most other files (all?) are opened in view-mode, which binds `q' and > z' differently. I think view-mode and special-mode need to agree on > how to map certain keys, e.g. `q', i.e. common operations like quit or > kill-buffer. Either by deriving view-mode from special-mode or > matching the maps. It's not a view-mode issue. Open up a directory in dired. Select a sub-directory. Type `q'. End up in a buffer that wasn't the one you started in. So `quit-window' and friends have apparently gotten a bit confused in the last couple of days. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 20:40:35 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 00:40:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhsvr-0007sx-2w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:40:35 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhsvo-0007sc-9F; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:40:32 -0400 Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so1525410iye.3 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ru04iTqCJViLZeMNq1+UhhcdFrqMKLXmsPaq8dDlbOc=; b=Qoa3vKMct9E3mZsHj8bNRT5bgOE7YMqxp+V8VF0OA2BJBDW4ctVU4qrYp8G1G17KaZ dgBvb4/rYhMJqjhy2r6GnqJBOv+8uCaMyHfWVPnAipXjgfBMlrKuCB5jMf/UbDj/dN4V 8MfJ28xrPPGjMsyiKZIcqG6DlU6vXEXwhqIEo= Received: by 10.42.162.138 with SMTP id y10mr4236700icx.213.1310776826652; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (71-208-132-119.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.132.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm1158856ibb.49.2011.07.15.17.40.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E20DDF8.4070702@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:40:24 -0600 From: Christoph Scholtes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#6954: bug#8615: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <4E20C5DE.6070107@gmail.com> <871uxryvrq.fsf@jidanni.org> <4E20CED6.4070207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) On 7/15/2011 5:38 PM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Christoph Scholtes writes: > >> Most other files (all?) are opened in view-mode, which binds `q' and >> z' differently. I think view-mode and special-mode need to agree on >> how to map certain keys, e.g. `q', i.e. common operations like quit or >> kill-buffer. Either by deriving view-mode from special-mode or >> matching the maps. > > It's not a view-mode issue. IMO, it is very much a view-mode issue. The original issue description states that v q should remove the image buffer, i.e. kill it. It will never do this, since image-mode uses special mode map, and special-mode buries on `q', whereas other modes use view-mode. view-mode does kill the buffer on q, but I believe exit-action has to be set correctly. > Open up a directory in dired. Select a sub-directory. Type `q'. End > up in a buffer that wasn't the one you started in. > > So `quit-window' and friends have apparently gotten a bit confused in > the last couple of days. This is a separate issue and needs to be fixed. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 08:24:50 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 12:24:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi3vK-0007Tb-A1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:24:50 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdccah.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.207] helo=homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi3vF-0007TH-00; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:24:45 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E10208069; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=oVfe9AswEK8J90Ktbhos9iSsE/Gbjd9y4TdLLB5KCbNmOCrdN7SX2KhHwEWb NY670ypCXZGeVUY7bR6vURA/p9uDvnCrZ0XhKQ9En1fZU2RJ4DPixOuC8EToe/yc 6ltHKfSDDQ74v/E9kgcJ6nfDzFddxumYmLYZHAgUp1ZV90M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=bxbLgzyjZi28dww8W9sg5OrXF7E=; b=kS7Hh6mqQuE1AYFV u3GbwbJAFeAhE+4Zdug320wWWlWh0eSnCF42GOjvfzOmiiID9FmYv/bmI9gd6nUM hTdBa+l4qa2BYOaAn8u58DxbH2qmoYIiE5rHPGeONWWGe5HwDk9s6uEmuak73snS DxzXUOGEJkSU0k5Qi1ZLUeQxqSQ= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-6-34.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.6.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A09C208063; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:24:34 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: larsi@gnus.org Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:24:30 +0800 Message-ID: <87mxgequpt.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) After years of using v q SPC v q SPC v q SPC to view photos in dired, you fellows latest tinkering has really thrown a monkey wrench into my life. Though I even in my previous letter promised to learn the new ways, I am afraid that is no longer possible. Therefore perhaps someone can provide me with a doctors prescription I can put into .emacs, that would make v and q act like the good old days. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 09:11:52 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 13:11:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi4eu-00007K-4j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:11:52 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi4er-000072-Nw for 6954@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:11:50 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Jul 2011 13:11:43 -0000 Received: from 62-47-56-15.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.56.15]) [62.47.56.15] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 16 Jul 2011 15:11:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19jSspCepxjZiLeDo34KoqoHAVt6w988tAm2JZeEy apavNByNrQCfvZ Message-ID: <4E218E0A.6050302@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:11:38 +0200 From: martin rudalics User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) >> $ emacs -Q a_directory_with_images >> type v on an image >> type q >> Now guess what we are looking at? >> Back to the directory? >> No. >> You folks buried it! >> And the image is also buried, not killed, too! > > I don't think anything has actually changed with the bug you reported, > but yeah, wow. `q' popped to a totally different buffer than I > expected. > > Is this a part of the switch-to-buffer/window thingie rework? It is ;-) As a matter of fact it's the combination of (1) a bug in Emacs 23's `pop-to-buffer' causing it to _not_ reselect the selected window when it's used for displaying the buffer, and (2) a recent change which had `find-file' use `pop-to-buffer' instead of `set-window-buffer'. Hopefully fixed now (the bug in Emacs 23 remains unfixed since noone has complained about it yet - after all `pop-to-buffer' was supposed to use any but the selected window). Thanks for complaining, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 11:19:43 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 15:19:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi6ed-0003ER-8Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:19:43 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi6eZ-0003E6-TI; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:19:40 -0400 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1830181iwn.3 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:19:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D/6YtxKa+I3lawfzXJMw2NhhY47uQdiBxuwFr9wjhwQ=; b=mu6rMKlb7DNIFwSOIt/TczTZ2Qmt9E01tsaCSRsfob6ldY/lHnMM6dfuo3WFpE/06j V4RJOJwpr8LaLxw5HrZdth0DBwWepMGimBXK+oJ+r0QwkYOH48wKnZTshKSAODgsn3I7 v7QK5xwnPhDAiqPPwStOL+txLsaZzjScYixyo= Received: by 10.42.151.131 with SMTP id e3mr2198283icw.507.1310829573945; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (71-208-132-119.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.132.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm1607401ibc.54.2011.07.16.08.19.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E21AC02.6080603@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:19:30 -0600 From: Christoph Scholtes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> <4E218E0A.6050302@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <4E218E0A.6050302@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 8615@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) On 7/16/2011 7:11 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > Hopefully fixed now (the bug in Emacs 23 remains unfixed since noone has > complained about it yet - after all `pop-to-buffer' was supposed to use > any but the selected window). Now it behaves correctly on `q' and switches back to the dired buffer. Thanks for the fix. However, the original issue reported is still not resolved. `q' buries the buffer and does not kill it, like it used to before special-mode was introduced. Maybe Stefan or Chong can comment on whether this is to be regarded an issue or not. I still think view-mode and special-mode need to be aligned in terms of these common actions. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 22:10:46 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2011 02:10:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGof-0002Nw-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:10:45 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGod-0002Ni-WF; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:10:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAChEIk5MCqt8/2dsb2JhbABSp3V4iHzAcYY8BJ8nhDA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,215,1309752000"; d="scan'208";a="126225319" Received: from 76-10-171-124.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.171.124]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 16 Jul 2011 22:10:38 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3351E660D5; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:10:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files Message-ID: References: <87wrfxwf7y.fsf@jidanni.org> <87fwmkvkf0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:10:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:53:41 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: Chong Yidong , 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >> C-u q does. And in any case, I was just describing the usual binding >> used in special-modes, regardless of whether it behaves like view-mode. >> FWIW, I find view-mode's behavior generally odd and hard to predict (as >> a user), so I don't think it's crucial to always follow its lead. > No, but it would be nice if `v' in dired always did the same thing > with `q'. Why? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 22:24:11 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2011 02:24:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiH1d-0002hG-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:24:10 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiH1Y-0002gU-HA; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:24:05 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QiH1L-00007p-BW; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:23:51 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:10:38 -0400") Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:23:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87wrfxwf7y.fsf@jidanni.org> <87fwmkvkf0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEX47tXQ09wVDg0/LSW4 wdCIk7SRcWpXQjSXq891VUNKEkZ8AAACKklEQVQ4jXWSMW/bMBCFKcAOshJxh2yBNGQNxIHIZieM a29OGyoe3dY6R1tQISC0dbACjQUaW+W/7R1JOxLaPkkUdR+f7o4SY6gFi+jGhmPW08la+Ynqxz/k 0TgaLMZsOpp0wqevep3v4O3uN+RTnWUasiwDNWZD/ahfdK61zjQJcp1nerdA8OICunFDs2xQtUbg Fi6beuljug9QddMRAVxee1NHtQO4IAPogYYAOTVA/h+w/wssqQh9fJWaudsPNnQGTKKbrcI4yoNT VzZ1DE9KPxAgkwcNVgyoGpnyngBq7QDA00RxIq8rD1wjpAfOCczMFYGtmh3AhJNGc0HApSOwghMP +EcCW6XQfgewHrNBcGwQDCiO8yms8aN7w7RFMAwPfMQZC9N5mV6wM7kjv/8BIs7x5I8CHTexuL7v /TUR/5zGFwjiWNp1l/BfaeqBKOWX9/igKOPgEFJcwgFFGyNEAEkqEnH9pqgT0G0ae0eaJjSVxhib FcbSQ3A4JUbKsjXCdEDigCBJU3YdSWUtQLG3tMNfPbjFRRa6sq2hPs73/SgUYAvbPrNze1SB175w 0/Ynm4co1uoieGFCdNxin6UwpJaGClMYAjdYZyiV5FYYa559uRTCbcEmDHaIcQSfXNuCOhd4lCWN AVTf46RMLjcCnZVP5IFPIvEwsqoqS+gqvIq2PqYc0tAulyLkSA+lUQ6nANy+QpGDj5ZHQJLwDQCL pl4ITOGfWv0B16JWP1UVP5kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Holy Wars_ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110717:cyd@stupidchicken.com::7E+rdhL6Q2hfRaWA:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000K4qf X-Hashcash: 1:23:110717:8615@debbugs.gnu.org::XQo9ycSkNgE7Uib5:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000LQNX X-Hashcash: 1:23:110717:6954@debbugs.gnu.org::zK4hFdvOEaGFDamS:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000W28s X-Hashcash: 1:23:110717:jidanni@jidanni.org::efWP2sPJHNQG/jm1:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000q9Uz X-Hashcash: 1:23:110717:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::YKco37ry/LmDiurP:00000000000000000000000000000000000015GIE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QiH1L-00007p-BW X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311474232.12061@aZ3/hP+ApY2EiLefgpfawA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: Chong Yidong , 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: >>> C-u q does. And in any case, I was just describing the usual binding >>> used in special-modes, regardless of whether it behaves like view-mode. >>> FWIW, I find view-mode's behavior generally odd and hard to predict (as >>> a user), so I don't think it's crucial to always follow its lead. >> No, but it would be nice if `v' in dired always did the same thing >> with `q'. > > Why? If the user uses `v', they probably expects to see the article in view mode. If they didn't, they would have hit RET instead. One of the things that `v' gives you is `q'. QED. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 22:27:59 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2011 02:28:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiH5K-0002mt-Qr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:27:59 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.145] helo=homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiH5I-0002md-NX; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:27:57 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B5351C063; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=F6dOQT6RzL8D5PdTurLz6ebCSPrZCsGJkTQZT+loJfkvbOUvn a2QOA3vqrgNoRLwiL1eZ8V9ZIyNjd7cGYAIsmNveJIw0JLKeX492LHFEx1dhv89a WQ/wkHybE8uaWHKohPci44iPRvH0ZN5mmzZeOU2fWcSiwLj7B2KOqDlKaw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=WozPl+wG2K9+LyU1q29bfWNSzJc=; b=AXkKKgRb/S+vI FRtXFRQOk/7c9HL54VcLeJBAXoLub0OKaOUxWVL2hJYOhtad3OUD9RB/3OWhRmxF FkwZftUiiJXpHnqsdbaqEWr4bU9JBKLP8o/f1EBtuGXvLgtgKxcNNQ5iXvWZyeqt 2rlbIdJSHtk0ONisZm1LiiZcHGMYUw= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-1-89.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.1.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F62F51C062; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Subject: Re: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:27:48 +0800 Message-ID: <87fwm57iaj.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 8615@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >>>>> "SM" == Stefan Monnier writes: >>> C-u q does. And in any case, I was just describing the usual binding >>> used in special-modes, regardless of whether it behaves like view-mode. >>> FWIW, I find view-mode's behavior generally odd and hard to predict (as >>> a user), so I don't think it's crucial to always follow its lead. >> No, but it would be nice if `v' in dired always did the same thing >> with `q'. SM> Why? Because when we hit q on a text file, it neatly disappears (from the buffer list), whereas hitting q on an image file oddly leaves it sitting on the buffer list, one look at which would shock one off ones chair -- my god how did I stuff emacs memory with all those images? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 19 11:03:28 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2011 15:03:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjBpY-0006RM-8z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:03:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjBpW-0006RA-PL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:03:27 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjBpK-0006Cu-S6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:03:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:03:14 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8615 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QjBpK-0006Cu-S6 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311692595.10639@XcXzccYpjzmgKTUWocKcGQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 8615 fixed close 8615 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 20 11:09:37 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2011 15:09:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjYP2-0007Eu-J3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:09:36 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjYP0-0007Ef-Lz; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:09:35 -0400 Received: from furball ([128.36.14.95]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6KF9RDF028877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:09:28 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: Christoph Scholtes Subject: Re: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <8762n3z13p.fsf@jidanni.org> <4E218E0A.6050302@gmx.at> <4E21AC02.6080603@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:09:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4E21AC02.6080603@gmail.com> (Christoph Scholtes's message of "Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:19:30 -0600") Message-ID: <87pql5vviw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, martin rudalics , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , jidanni@jidanni.org, 8615@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Christoph Scholtes writes: > `q' buries the buffer and does not kill it, like it used to before > special-mode was introduced. > > I still think view-mode and special-mode need to be aligned in terms > of these common actions. I don't see why it's important for `q' to do exactly the same thing in view-mode and special-mode. It seems reasonable for `q' to bury the buffer in special-mode, which knows nothing about what the inheriting mode's buffers are for (so burying is safer than killing). In view-mode, killing the buffer is reasonable if we regard view-mode as a "less"-like quick way to view and then discard a file, in which case it would be a nuisance to keep the buffer around afterward. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 20 11:40:33 2011 Received: (at 6954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2011 15:40:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjYsv-0007wX-Cv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:40:33 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdccac.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.202] helo=homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjYsp-0007wF-Ac; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:40:27 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645C734806F; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=Y6trfcTjs06a+LjHO30Bbrih6t/UPytiHLbt4WtBK0p6owkXp cglp1gqqU/TOXyO3uvukpP4/DTo+EmLtJRy+2pP0Vj8YevCr6g8dgO50rRnH4yaB CyrwgvzyK3YicAoEVfU4Xy3RMUHK2kh/zLIVm5/pc6BhpxJEWoVJkUJ9YE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=FDVWYLG7vkV/Qv5qlnAIJPcanyY=; b=XVDgXlpoxbu00 xS7tgokfIGdm/WluSDQZH1nwKR+1sDyxkKnGTZl9BdcXbrTFWNofdozk7WwehRJ4 0lVhvjUi16bLgZ6uS5Z39YvTovzUK6g1iQ1iORH0phYIg2s12/h5X9Y+gkybmaVp F3mCGnoATPt7wf+K/jjIJVbiu2NHpw= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-3-251.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.3.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF05B34806C; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:40:16 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: cyd@stupidchicken.com Subject: Re: bug#6954: bug#8615: Please make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files References: <87pql5vviw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:40:13 +0800 Message-ID: <87wrfdm04i.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6954 Cc: cschol2112@googlemail.com, 6954@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 8615@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >>>>> "CY" == Chong Yidong writes: CY> I don't see why it's important for `q' to do exactly the same thing in Well as long as there is a way for me the user to put something in his .emacs file to "make sure v q removes the buffer for JPGs just like it does for other files". Also like xli(1)'s q too. From unknown Tue Sep 09 22:28:53 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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