From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 01 18:32:14 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2024 23:32:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rgCMP-00046w-S3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:32:14 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40678) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rgCMM-00046f-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:32:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgCLt-0007n5-CR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:31:41 -0500 Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgCLp-0003h9-5r; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:31:40 -0500 Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5133b5c0911so131136e87.0; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:31:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1709335895; x=1709940695; darn=gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6loaNaO0l9xZw3ob+l6zgVLf6eB2klCEe7cH/ftOzkE=; b=DFvIsrctOKWXUoK+enUnn4p1LQDIiZTxNp6Mw6PNfQFkx+41//RGztNpTT5Q5Iap/L 548KGvllkskgz1yJOkxeDIaXaboJkb1YJLe5xGnpsSg46B0x4gDVgnFNgvthYOOvXmxJ Dyqa53CewBXXHF3vgriss6atSG3vAuVOEs+CzC9d3g6ylmLpmfnO2psciFrhjaSEuNSv b1Km01RYcC9GVECfKE2tw1cbQM3NdFliU7fFWw3zRXmBBYuKiaLjQDO/TyZOK0icyjS0 w8IgcwzD5/E0jwP9HvtYFEzFVM5SVd1H2p5IS5WzTpb+Nu6uZQGLTlkJzBTUR7DVpJLa ok7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709335895; x=1709940695; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6loaNaO0l9xZw3ob+l6zgVLf6eB2klCEe7cH/ftOzkE=; b=KA9b73S9UZT2Kg+LRW5J9rSryfm6qBRtAzjq7STl7BUD0EAV9Xmu/7h+idKb/oL8M8 H2Cq9Ru1QLARV8hTFncamyO3B4/rJl65T5/NE7QcDxxv0zhqydaGFITNFvs7mHvEOtmA 03umTtCO9t0eESYJzI+ofaMPpsHsS0W6XwoPhgdST/6rQbDrd6blVsHt5tsD8yVUMpLv +xdv8O+qdUs068pHdF5KFF8LVGXeeHeM7gym0IseL0lQnLgyCV/vkHgX4ABqMGveUoS2 +RauVhUz5m7KMOyA965d+rsVkc0JdkpMuN0T1C+10Vz0OhZfc5SWeKpQxneg9eim33ms NZgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YygfoUQfJM4WAd47IXALZ/kcJr6a9lXKWpzoS5VPYyRDM48jCLM BqY0hbUbbzAK0hgE8uUMbGpphCF90230C+kccpS5Dp5aakPotz5jNRXrHO2FKIIJSc+ei/VBgFX +aUwIOsO1BgsQOrXtJ81P9nnhuppeMOsI+7c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFg7suMB+f6KdP8jLoEAD6FezwXAwzPTrm/juy7/3P7ZL/7MX4AHaR5gugU1EdtvwkQogKtghWx0/tGbjFNc8M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3114:b0:512:f307:71b0 with SMTP id n20-20020a056512311400b00512f30771b0mr2341708lfb.7.1709335893923; Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:31:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Boyer Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:30:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: File too big for Emacs? To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c25e760612a1c60f" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::132; envelope-from=robertstephenboyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x132.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: J Moore , Alan Bundy , Grant Passmore , rms@gnu.org, Stas Boukarev X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --000000000000c25e760612a1c60f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Emacs bug exterminators, The 1 gb file for which I give a url below does not seem to work in Emacs. The file enumerates the primes below 10^9, so it would be very handy to have around. I can get the file into an Emacs buffer in literal mode. Thanks for that. But then I cannot move to the bottom, i.e., using M->. In fact, in the attempt to move to the bottom, things go so badly that I have to reboot my $100 Lenovo Chromebook. Is it just too big for Emacs to handle? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IaRNZ1rUQAZ72A7rJYpescmnJhpuGliA/view?usp=sharing Thanks, Bob P. S. Maybe this is some kind of joke. In 1972, J Moore and I coded the '77 editor', which could handle a file of any size, using the 'pieces' approach that Microsoft later adopted. I'll try to see what I can do with Word, if I can afford a copy. Alas, the ICL 4130 on which the 77 editor ran is no longer available. I think that ICL was absorbed into Fujitsu, the cause of the British postal scandal. Here's the stuff you like with bug reports. From: bob To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.2; File too big? --text follows this line-- In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-05-13, modified by Debian built on x86-ubc-01 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12014000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs-mPr7Vr/emacs-28.2+1=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail time-date help-fns radix-tree cl-print debug backtrace help-mode find-func dired-aux cus-edit pp cus-load wid-edit trace sh-script smie executable dired dired-loaddefs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs ange-ftp shell pcomplete comint ansi-color ring benchmark time rmail rmail-loaddefs rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils face-remap finder-inf package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 135967 8344) (symbols 48 11618 0) (strings 32 36783 2556) (string-bytes 1 1163174) (vectors 16 21452) (vector-slots 8 422610 15484) (floats 8 52 74) (intervals 56 625 0) (buffers 992 19)) --000000000000c25e760612a1c60f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Emacs bug exterminators,

The 1 gb file for whi= ch I give a url below does not seem to work in Emacs.

The file enum= erates the primes below 10^9, so it would be very handy to
have around.<= br>
I can get the=C2=A0file into an Emacs buffer in literal mode.=C2=A0 = Thanks for that.

But then I cannot move to the bottom, i.e., using M= ->.=C2=A0 In fact, in the attempt to
move to the bottom, thing= s go so badly that I have to reboot my $100=C2=A0
Lenovo Chromebo= ok.

Is it just too big for Emacs to handle?

=C2=A0 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IaRNZ1rUQAZ7= 2A7rJYpescmnJhpuGliA/view?usp=3Dsharing

Thanks,

Bob

P. S.=C2=A0 Maybe this is some kind of joke.=C2=A0 In 197= 2, J Moore and I coded the '77 editor', which could=C2=A0handle
a file of any size, using the 'pieces' approach that Microso= ft later adopted.=C2=A0 I'll try to see what
I can do with Wo= rd, if I can afford a copy.=C2=A0 Alas, the ICL 4130 on which the 77 editor= ran is no longer available.
I think that ICL was absorbed = into Fujitsu, the cause of the British postal scandal.

=
Here's the stuff you like with bug reports.

From: bob <bob@penguin>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: 28.2; File too big?
--text f= ollows this line--




In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc= -linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0)
=C2=A0of 2023-05= -13, modified by Debian built on x86-ubc-01
Windowing system distributor= 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12014000
System Descriptio= n: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Configured using:
=C2=A0'co= nfigure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr
=C2=A0--sharedstatedir= =3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec
=C2=A0--localstatedir=3D/var/lib= --infodir=3D/usr/share/info
=C2=A0--mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libs= ystemd --with-pop=3Dyes
=C2=A0--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/l= ocal/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
=C2=A0--with-sound=3Dal= sa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
=C2=A0--with-native-compilation --bu= ild x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr
=C2=A0--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib -= -libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec
=C2=A0--localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D= /usr/share/info
=C2=A0--mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with= -pop=3Dyes
=C2=A0--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/em= acs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/s= ite-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
=C2=A0--with-sound=3Dalsa --without-= gconf --with-mailutils
=C2=A0--with-native-compilation --with-cairo --wi= th-x=3Dyes
=C2=A0--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars '= ;CFLAGS=3D-g -O2
=C2=A0-ffile-prefix-map=3D/build/emacs-mPr7Vr/emacs-28.= 2+1=3D.
=C2=A0-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-securit= y -Wall'
=C2=A0'CPPFLAGS=3D-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2'= ; LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-z,relro'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS= FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LCMS2 LIB= OTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY IN= OTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X1= 1 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LAN= G: en_US.UTF-8
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode= : Text

Minor modes in effect:
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= =C2=A0 display-time-mode: t
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldo= c-mode: t
=C2=A0 show-paren-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 gl= obal-font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blink-cursor-m= ode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t=
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0= transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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sh-sc= ript smie executable dired dired-loaddefs cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs= ange-ftp shell pcomplete comint ansi-color ring benchmark
time rmail rm= ail-loaddefs rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr
mail-utils fa= ce-remap finder-inf package browse-url url url-proxy
url-privacy url-exp= and url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf
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--000000000000c25e760612a1c60f-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 01:58:01 2024 Received: (at 69492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2024 06:58:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rgJJo-0000Ua-QB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 01:58:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rgJJk-0000UI-3Q for 69492@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 01:57:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rgJH4-0006Cv-B5; Sat, 02 Mar 2024 01:55:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=6FR6FyKY4nd5VP/LL8bWG+yTFaky8Ybcmtwg6C6XDzs=; b=LmYztXoG8b68 /t3dPYsn3crRyhKDA5RAK41IikotRtWecw5Y4GfJB9UacenHkh3l2JfAGqZdNIAzLJjuQwSQCPiBg I66gZ5hmGx8DBSHf4Ht7Fcq1jgKVyoeTivx0hNsgyU0S+txX4VsvtCU/HyTSOavMgiJlhedOfRhlY m3U0uyGxmIKcA+IoHTNSKcbau56NmYt9c36mUjA7L2LLD52r9qTdzd42V7tUv6hLmW8JCkcYR2oVL h+LXC7ZCQ7nrawzvohWeuv2JZSrpwOTW75eONHsD2vUsw4SJXdGhG2eAFMSAMUPph0shzgxiwYhl4 6uBrDbmDqm+jGhs5TQM48w==; Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:54:44 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmqlp1hn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Boyer In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Boyer on Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:30:56 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#69492: File too big for Emacs? References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69492 Cc: moore@cs.utexas.edu, rms@gnu.org, 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, bundy@ed.ac.uk, grant@imandra.ai, stassats@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: J Moore , Alan Bundy , > Grant Passmore , rms@gnu.org, > Stas Boukarev > From: Robert Boyer > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:30:56 -0600 > > Dear Emacs bug exterminators, > > The 1 gb file for which I give a url below does not seem to work in Emacs. > > The file enumerates the primes below 10^9, so it would be very handy to > have around. > > I can get the file into an Emacs buffer in literal mode. Thanks for that. > > But then I cannot move to the bottom, i.e., using M->. In fact, in the attempt to > move to the bottom, things go so badly that I have to reboot my $100 > Lenovo Chromebook. > > Is it just too big for Emacs to handle? Since your Emacs is a 64-bit build, a 1GB file shouldn't be too big, provided that your system has enough virtual memory to support reading it into memory (which might require more than 1GB, perhaps up to 2GB). If Emacs says "Memory exhausted" when you visit that file, try enlarging the size of swap for your system. 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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004ea75b0612a9a738" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69492 Cc: moore@cs.utexas.edu, rms@gnu.org, 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, bundy@ed.ac.uk, grant@imandra.ai, stassats@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000004ea75b0612a9a738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally. It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug report. The problem I had was that I could not move to the bottom of the buffer with M->. Can you? Bob On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 12:55=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Cc: J Moore , Alan Bundy , > > Grant Passmore , rms@gnu.org, > > Stas Boukarev > > From: Robert Boyer > > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:30:56 -0600 > > > > Dear Emacs bug exterminators, > > > > The 1 gb file for which I give a url below does not seem to work in > Emacs. > > > > The file enumerates the primes below 10^9, so it would be very handy to > > have around. > > > > I can get the file into an Emacs buffer in literal mode. Thanks for > that. > > > > But then I cannot move to the bottom, i.e., using M->. In fact, in the > attempt to > > move to the bottom, things go so badly that I have to reboot my $100 > > Lenovo Chromebook. > > > > Is it just too big for Emacs to handle? > > Since your Emacs is a 64-bit build, a 1GB file shouldn't be too big, > provided that your system has enough virtual memory to support reading > it into memory (which might require more than 1GB, perhaps up to 2GB). > If Emacs says "Memory exhausted" when you visit that file, try > enlarging the size of swap for your system. > --0000000000004ea75b0612a9a738 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally= .

It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug repor= t.=C2=A0=C2=A0

The problem I had was that I could = not move to the bottom of the buffer with M->.

Can yo= u?

Bob


On Sat, Mar 2, 20= 24 at 12:55=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <el= iz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Cc: J Moore <moore@cs.utexas.edu>, Alan Bundy <bundy@ed.ac.uk>,
>=C2=A0 Grant Passmore <grant@imandra.ai>, rms@gnu.org,
>=C2=A0 Stas Boukarev <stassats@gmail.com>
> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:30:56 -0600
>
> Dear Emacs bug exterminators,
>
> The 1 gb file for which I give a url below does not seem to work in Em= acs.
>
> The file enumerates the primes below 10^9, so it would be very handy t= o
> have around.
>
> I can get the file into an Emacs buffer in literal mode.=C2=A0 Thanks = for that.
>
> But then I cannot move to the bottom, i.e., using M->.=C2=A0 In fac= t, in the attempt to
> move to the bottom, things go so badly that I have to reboot my $100 <= br> > Lenovo Chromebook.
>
> Is it just too big for Emacs to handle?

Since your Emacs is a 64-bit build, a 1GB file shouldn't be too big, provided that your system has enough virtual memory to support reading
it into memory (which might require more than 1GB, perhaps up to 2GB).
If Emacs says "Memory exhausted" when you visit that file, try enlarging the size of swap for your system.
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What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt? 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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004f90180612ac74f1" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69492 Cc: moore@cs.utexas.edu, rms@gnu.org, 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, bundy@ed.ac.uk, grant@imandra.ai, stassats@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000004f90180612ac74f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt? > free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 2827236 1172052 1010804 22736 644380 1655184 Swap: 0 0 0 > On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 5:10=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Robert Boyer > > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 02:54:47 -0600 > > Cc: 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk, > > grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com > > > > I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally. > > > > It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug report. > > > > The problem I had was that I could not move to the bottom of the buffer > with M->. > > What exactly is the problem? My guess is that the problem is the same > I mentioned: your system doesn't have enough VM. What does the > command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt? > --0000000000004f90180612ac74f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> What does the command 'free' display if you i= nvoke it from the shell prompt?

> free
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0total =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0used =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0shared =C2= =A0buff/cache =C2=A0 available
Mem: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2827236 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1172052 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1010804 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 22736 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0644380 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1655184
Swap: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0
>

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 5:10= =E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org<= /a>> wrote:
&= gt; From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 02:54:47 -0600
> Cc: 69492@d= ebbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com
>
> I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally.
>
> It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug report.=C2=A0
>
> The problem I had was that I could not move to the bottom of the buffe= r with M->.

What exactly is the problem?=C2=A0 My guess is that the problem is the same=
I mentioned: your system doesn't have enough VM.=C2=A0 What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt?
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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000aec9890612ad24e3" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69492 Cc: moore@cs.utexas.edu, rms@gnu.org, 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, bundy@ed.ac.uk, grant@imandra.ai, stassats@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000aec9890612ad24e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suspect that I have a Chromebook/Gnu-Linux problem, not an Emacs problem. Using 'crosh', the terminal for the Chromebook, I did: swap enable 4000 and then rebooted. After the reboot, Chrosh reports a lot of swap space: crosh> free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 3881392 1615268 48408 1896264 2217716 299596 Swap: 4095996 2636800 1459196 crosh> However, the free command when typed into the Emacs shell, running under Linux, still says: > free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 2827236 1178476 1075032 22224 573728 1648760 Swap: 0 0 0 > It seems possible that my problem may have a solution, namely to wipe my Linux clean and start over from scratch. I thank you for your wise and very kind help, and I will let you know if I make any progress. Bob P. S. I think you may close this bug report, saying 'not an Emacs problem'. On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:15=E2=80=AFAM Robert Boyer wrote: > > What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell > prompt? > > > free > total used free shared buff/cache > available > Mem: 2827236 1172052 1010804 22736 644380 > 1655184 > Swap: 0 0 0 > > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 5:10=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote= : > >> > From: Robert Boyer >> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 02:54:47 -0600 >> > Cc: 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk, >> > grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com >> > >> > I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally. >> > >> > It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug report. >> > >> > The problem I had was that I could not move to the bottom of the buffe= r >> with M->. >> >> What exactly is the problem? My guess is that the problem is the same >> I mentioned: your system doesn't have enough VM. What does the >> command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt? >> > --000000000000aec9890612ad24e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I suspect that I have a Chromebook/Gnu-Linux problem, not = an Emacs problem.

Using 'crosh', the terminal for the Chrome= book, I did:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0swap enable 4000

and then rebooted.=

After the reboot, Chrosh reports a lot of swap space:

crosh&= gt; free
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0total = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0used =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0shared =C2=A0buff/cache =C2=A0 available
Mem: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3881392 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1615268 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 48408 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 1896264 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2217716 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0299596
Swap= : =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A04095996 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2636800 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 14= 59196
crosh>

However, the free command when typed into the Ema= cs shell, running under
Linux, still says:

> free
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0total =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0used =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0shared =C2= =A0buff/cache =C2=A0 available
Mem: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2827236 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1178476 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1075032 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 22224 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0573728 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1648760
Swap: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0
>

It seems possible that my prob= lem may have a solution, namely to wipe my
Linux clean and start over fr= om scratch.

I thank you for your wise and very kind help, and I will= let you know if I
make any progress.

Bob

P. S. I think yo= u may close this bug report, saying 'not an Emacs problem'.

On S= at, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:15=E2=80=AFAM Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com= > wrote:
> What does the command 'free' display if you invok= e it from the shell prompt?

> free
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0total =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0used =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0shared =C2=A0bu= ff/cache =C2=A0 available
Mem: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2827236 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 1172052 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1010804 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 22736 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0644380 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1655184
Swap: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0
>

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 5:10=E2= =80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 02:54:47 -0600
> Cc: 69492@d= ebbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com
>
> I did not seem to have trouble finding the file, literally.
>
> It showed up ok in a buffer, as I said in my bug report.=C2=A0
>
> The problem I had was that I could not move to the bottom of the buffe= r with M->.

What exactly is the problem?=C2=A0 My guess is that the problem is the same=
I mentioned: your system doesn't have enough VM.=C2=A0 What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell prompt?
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To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002958fa0612adffcb" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 69492 Cc: moore@cs.utexas.edu, rms@gnu.org, 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, bundy@ed.ac.uk, grant@imandra.ai, stassats@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000002958fa0612adffcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are so right. Thanks, Bod On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 7:38=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Robert Boyer > > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 06:15:18 -0600 > > Cc: 69492@debbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk, > > grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com > > > > > What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it from the shell > prompt? > > > > > free > > total used free shared buff/cache > available > > Mem: 2827236 1172052 1010804 22736 644380 > 1655184 > > Swap: 0 0 0 > > I don't think this is enough for visiting a 1GB file in Emacs. > --0000000000002958fa0612adffcb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are so right.

Thanks,
Bod


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 7:38=E2=80=AFAM = Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrot= e:
> From: Ro= bert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 06:15:18 -0600
> Cc: 69492@d= ebbugs.gnu.org, moore@cs.utexas.edu, bundy@ed.ac.uk,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0grant@imandra.ai, rms@gnu.org, stassats@gmail.com
>
> > What does the command 'free' display if you invoke it fro= m the shell prompt?
>
> > free
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 total=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 used=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 free=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = shared=C2=A0 buff/cache=C2=A0 =C2=A0available
> Mem:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02827236=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011720= 52=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01010804=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A022736=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 644380=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01655184
> Swap:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00

I don't think this is enough for visiting a 1GB file in Emacs.
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