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Emacs Lisp needs, for its great 'native-compile', 'declare' and 'the' for fixnums and arrays.

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From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Emacs Lisp needs, for its great 'native-compile', 'declare' and 'the'
 for fixnums and arrays.
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 13:40:14 -0600

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I show beyond all doubt how much Emacs Lisp needs, for its great
'native-compile',
'declare' and 'the' for fixnums and arrays.

Why? 8X!

If every time you aref a vector or increment a fixnum you have to check
things, you are going to waste a lot of cpu time. A programmer NEEDS to be
able to TELL the system things that should not be checked constantly.
Imagine
how slow one would be if he/she had to check that he/she was alive every
heart beat.

I have attached two files, eratosthenese.el and eratosthenese.lisp, the
first coded in Emacs Lisp and the second in Common Lisp.

In all that follows, I am running on a $100 Lenovo Chromebook.

The Sieve of Eratosthenese is the second oldest algorithm I am aware of, the
oldest being gcd.

Consider this form:

(progn (emacs-lisp-native-compile-and-load) (benchmark (build-sieve (expt
10 8)) 1))

First of all, 'benchmark' has an obvious bug because it reports a time of
.000005 seconds.

So I used the timer on my trusty $130 moto g pure phone.

After finding the file eratosthenese.el, the evaluation of the form above
takes 69 seconds in Emacs.

After entering SBCL and loading eratosthenese.lisp, (build-sieve (expt 10
8))
takes 8 seconds.

Q.E.D.

Bob

I attach stuff that I do not understand but that you may like.

From: bob <bob <at> penguin>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.2; Why Emacs Lisp needs declare and the for fixnums and arrays.
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In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37,
cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2023-05-13, modified by Debian built on x86-ubc-01
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12014000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs-mPr7Vr/emacs-28.2+1=.
 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall'
 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Text

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa
derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail thingatpt
dabbrev misearch multi-isearch help-fns radix-tree cl-print debug
backtrace find-func time-date compile text-property-search comp
comp-cstr warnings rx cl-extra help-mode cus-start etags fileloop
generator xref project dired-aux cus-edit pp cus-load wid-edit trace
sh-script smie executable dired dired-loaddefs cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs ange-ftp shell pcomplete comint ansi-color ring benchmark
time rmail rmail-loaddefs rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr
mail-utils face-remap finder-inf package browse-url url url-proxy
url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf
url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio
eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map
url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib
iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks
lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd
tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace
newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar
rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock
font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray
cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files
window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages
mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind
inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting
cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process
native-compile emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 178787 77633)
 (symbols 48 13676 66)
 (strings 32 42888 8138)
 (string-bytes 1 1386823)
 (vectors 16 26477)
 (vector-slots 8 100493063 154471)
 (floats 8 62 377)
 (intervals 56 2423 424)
 (buffers 992 31))

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