From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 07:06:17 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2010 11:06:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq2Bt-0002Lm-1W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:06:17 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq2Br-0002Lf-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:06:15 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:46726) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq2DO-0002LB-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:07:50 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58057 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oq2DL-0002fz-Sm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:07:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq1fw-0006Fj-R9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:33:17 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:41983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq1fw-0006Ff-O3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:33:16 -0400 Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so5485424qyk.0 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=febP7DoEqWlDG1kk5THpYHnerimGvr8UOkXbrh1IODU=; b=EcToWGsT1T3Tzx2MxymKOajTqqJOmL7BjhcKFzDkGip+cw7NrSsj182askgZeoTiQ5 xveFHmdm86g0nx2x6giJvF/cr2gNF5XYwFKCW/7sV5BoqJDDPSeO1APMDAbamEychlYB kLsbtwwIbBzwt1a89rGVvQ/7yUrZpa1TItS/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sRkMWGVkjqgHB+tUg4iGFgryL8N9SC7Pu9kTONGINAvm6i7fgjVO/EVJrra6zn2IJq ZJbhPvfz4EJBXkBYrxWFZcnhoW3WbgcdrgrUix6hydpogH9Dq5R0cHLqkntTDQxgXlCm pNzaA0kJF2vuftx7IzrlhgV53LyOhoTgkH3Ms= Received: by 10.229.52.32 with SMTP id f32mr2859061qcg.265.1283164396231; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:33:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.20.139 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:32:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:32:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Paste in Edit menu not active at start To: Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) After starting Emacs with "emacs -Q" the "Paste" alternative is not active in the menu even though C-y works. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-08-10 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 08:47:30 2010 Received: (at 6944) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2010 12:47:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq3lp-0003ft-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:47:29 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq3ln-0003fn-HH for 6944@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:47:28 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2010 12:49:01 -0000 Received: from i59F54421.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.68.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 30 Aug 2010 14:49:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+mvu5TgEGmbozUEyBnPA8uUMnmDhwe3ndk/nlMcY erYrCqPAI4/lj+ Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC4D0103AD; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:49:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman To: Lennart Borgman Subject: Re: bug#6944: Paste in Edit menu not active at start References: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:49:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:32:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87wrr8jmf7.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6944 Cc: 6944@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:32:56 +0200 Lennart Borgman wrote: > After starting Emacs with "emacs -Q" the "Paste" alternative is not > active in the menu even though C-y works. > > > In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > of 2010-08-10 > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags > -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' On GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) of 2010-08-22 on escher, "Paste" is active in the menu after starting with -Q, so this seems to be an MS-Windows problem. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 12:53:00 2010 Received: (at 6944) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2010 16:53:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq7bP-0005Rd-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:52:59 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq7bN-0005RY-Gt for 6944@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:52:58 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L7Z00L005EPSY00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 6944@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:54:27 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.202.93]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L7Z00KK25MPISF0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:54:26 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:56:31 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6944: Paste in Edit menu not active at start In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lennart Borgman Message-id: <83y6bojayo.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6944 Cc: 6944@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:32:56 +0200 > Cc: > > After starting Emacs with "emacs -Q" the "Paste" alternative is not > active in the menu even though C-y works. This happens because menu-bar.el defines the sensitivity of "Paste" as follows: (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [paste] `(menu-item ,(purecopy "Paste") yank :enable (and (or ;; Emacs compiled --without-x doesn't have ;; x-selection-exists-p. (and (fboundp 'x-selection-exists-p) (x-selection-exists-p)) kill-ring) (not buffer-read-only)) and x-selection-exists-p with its argument omitted probes the PRIMARY selection, which doesn't exist on MS-Windows. I can easily fix that with an MS-Windows specific change, but I'm actually surprised we don't call (x-selection-exists-p 'CLIPBOARD) here: isn't C-y supposed to yank from the clipboard, not from PRIMARY? If we use 'CLIPBOARD, the code will work on Windows without any changes. Am I missing something? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 13:36:17 2010 Received: (at 6944) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2010 17:36:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq8HJ-0006MZ-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:36:17 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq8HI-0006MS-Ij for 6944@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:36:17 -0400 Received: from furry (dhcp128036014154.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o7UHbq0T029508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:37:52 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88F9016D402; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:37:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6944: Paste in Edit menu not active at start References: <83y6bojayo.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:37:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83y6bojayo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:56:31 +0300") Message-ID: <87bp8kxaq7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6944 Cc: Lennart Borgman , 6944@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: > (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [paste] > `(menu-item ,(purecopy "Paste") yank > :enable (and (or > ;; Emacs compiled --without-x doesn't have > ;; x-selection-exists-p. > (and (fboundp 'x-selection-exists-p) > (x-selection-exists-p)) > kill-ring) > (not buffer-read-only)) > > I can easily fix that with an MS-Windows specific change, but I'm > actually surprised we don't call (x-selection-exists-p 'CLIPBOARD) > here: isn't C-y supposed to yank from the clipboard, not from PRIMARY? > If we use 'CLIPBOARD, the code will work on Windows without any > changes. Yes, please make the change. This looks like an oversight. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 14:09:18 2010 Received: (at 6944-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2010 18:09:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq8nF-0006Zj-Pl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:09:17 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq8nD-0006Ze-5I for 6944-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:09:16 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L7Z0010093F8P00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 6944-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:10:22 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.202.93]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L7Z000GN958XXC0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:10:22 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:12:26 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6944: Paste in Edit menu not active at start In-reply-to: <87bp8kxaq7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chong Yidong Message-id: <83vd6sj7g5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y6bojayo.fsf@gnu.org> <87bp8kxaq7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6944-done Cc: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, 6944-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > From: Chong Yidong > Cc: Lennart Borgman , 6944@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:37:52 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [paste] > > `(menu-item ,(purecopy "Paste") yank > > :enable (and (or > > ;; Emacs compiled --without-x doesn't have > > ;; x-selection-exists-p. > > (and (fboundp 'x-selection-exists-p) > > (x-selection-exists-p)) > > kill-ring) > > (not buffer-read-only)) > > > > I can easily fix that with an MS-Windows specific change, but I'm > > actually surprised we don't call (x-selection-exists-p 'CLIPBOARD) > > here: isn't C-y supposed to yank from the clipboard, not from PRIMARY? > > If we use 'CLIPBOARD, the code will work on Windows without any > > changes. > > Yes, please make the change. 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