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Error while upgrading

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: bug-auctex <at> gnu.org
Subject: Error while upgrading
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 12:00:24 +0100

Hello,

dunno if this observation is related to one of the other reports today
(my tex files open in fundamental-mode after today's upgrade), but I
noticed these two errors emitted while upgrading:

| ...
| Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-en.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
| context-en.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
| ^L
| Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-nl.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
| context-nl.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
| ...


Michael.

Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX
 <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>, 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:41:31 +0100

Hi Michael,

Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org> writes:

> dunno if this observation is related to one of the other reports today
> (my tex files open in fundamental-mode after today's upgrade), but I
> noticed these two errors emitted while upgrading:
>
> | ...
> | Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-en.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
> | context-en.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
> | ^L
> | Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-nl.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
> | context-nl.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
> | ...

thanks for the report.  See also my message[1] and Keita's answer[2].
Can you please do me a favor and restart your emacs and update AUCTeX
right away, i.e., without opening a .tex file before updating?  Maybe
that cures the issue.  TIA.

Best, Arash

Footnotes:
[1]  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-auctex/2024-02/msg00004.html

[2]  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-auctex/2024-02/msg00005.html

Message #14 received at 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 22:06:06 +0900

Hi Michael,

>>>>> Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org> writes:
> Hello,
> dunno if this observation is related to one of the other reports today
> (my tex files open in fundamental-mode after today's upgrade), but I
> noticed these two errors emitted while upgrading:

> | ...
> | Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-en.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
> | context-en.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
> | ^L
> | Compiling file /home/micha/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-14.0.0/context-nl.el at Fri Feb  9 11:44:38 2024
> | context-nl.el:33:11: Error: Symbol's chain of function indirections contains a loop: context-mode
> | ...

Thanks for the report. Currently it is known that updating of ELPA
AUCTeX doesn't work. Until a fixed version is released, please stay with
the former version of AUCTeX.

Sorry for inconvenience.

Regards,
Ikumi Keita
#StandWithUkraine #StopWarInUkraine
#Gaza #StopMassiveKilling #CeasefireNOW

Message #17 received at 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>
Cc: 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 18:12:52 +0100

Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Can you please do me a favor and restart your emacs and update AUCTeX
> right away, i.e., without opening a .tex file before updating?  Maybe
> that cures the issue.

That indeed gets rid of the error when installing.  I still get
fundamental-mode for .tex files nonetheless.

Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp> writes:

> Thanks for the report. Currently it is known that updating of ELPA
> AUCTeX doesn't work. Until a fixed version is released, please stay with
> the former version of AUCTeX.

For me laoding "tex-site" overwrites the autoload definition of
`LaTeX-mode' with a `nil' function cell.

Michael.

Message #20 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX
 <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>,
 Ikumi Keita <ikumi <at> ikumi.que.jp>, 69000 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 18:57:50 +0100

Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org> writes:

> That indeed gets rid of the error when installing.

Thanks for testing; so this part is done.

> I still get fundamental-mode for .tex files nonetheless.

This should be also fixed now; watch for AUCTeX 14.0.2. which should be
available very soon.

Best, Arash

Message #26 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: bug-auctex <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:43:26 +0100

Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org> writes:

> This should be also fixed now; watch for AUCTeX 14.0.2. which should
> be available very soon.

As expected it's fixed for me as well.  Thanks to everyone.

Side note: Please do not generally assume that every user upgrades from
a fresh session.  This might be ideal for the developer but is not what
people (should need to) do.

If an upgrade fails I try to uninstall and reinstall, it's ok for me
when this happens from time to time, but it should not be the rule that
this happens every time.

In theory it should be possible to avoid such problems with feature
unloading, but it's probably not worth the trouble to try to tune this
stuff.

Note 2: I did not find information about how to report bugs in the
AucTex manual.  Either I missed it or it should maybe be added.


Thx so far,

Michael.

Message #31 received at 69000-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mosè Giordano <mose <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: 69000-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:36:46 +0000

Hi Michael

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 at 15:29, Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug
reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> As expected it's fixed for me as well.  Thanks to everyone.

Thanks for confirming it, I'm closing the ticket.

> Note 2: I did not find information about how to report bugs in the
> AucTex manual.  Either I missed it or it should maybe be added.

I think it's the former case, the instructions about how to report
bugs are at the very beginning of the AUCTeX manual:
https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/index.html

> Bug reports should go to bug-auctex <at> gnu.org, suggestions for new features, and pleas for help should go to either auctex-devel <at> gnu.org (the AUCTeX developers), or to auctex <at> gnu.org if they might have general interest. Please use the command M-x TeX-submit-bug-report <RET> to report bugs if possible. You can subscribe to a low-volume announcement list by sending “subscribe” in the subject of a mail to info-auctex-request <at> gnu.org.

Best,
Mosè

Message #34 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: bug-auctex <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:30:41 +0100

Mosè Giordano <mose <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I think it's the former case, the instructions about how to report
> bugs are at the very beginning of the AUCTeX manual:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/index.html

Oh - it's on the front page.  That's why I was not able to find it in
the index nor node names.

Michael.

Message #37 received at 69000-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX
 <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>, 69000-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:26:48 +0100

Michael Heerdegen via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> This should be also fixed now; watch for AUCTeX 14.0.2. which should
>> be available very soon.
>
> As expected it's fixed for me as well.  Thanks to everyone.

Thanks for reporting back.  I'm closing this report since the initial
issues seem to be resolved.

> Side note: Please do not generally assume that every user upgrades from
> a fresh session.  This might be ideal for the developer but is not what
> people (should need to) do.
>
> If an upgrade fails I try to uninstall and reinstall, it's ok for me
> when this happens from time to time, but it should not be the rule that
> this happens every time.

Thanks for the side note.  OTOH, I'd like say that AUCTeX was stable for
many years and for this release, some internals were changed and we
discussed possible breakage upfront.  The change was inevitable so it is
up to us to guide users through the update process now.

At any rate, I hope that users bear with us and enjoy the advantages of
the change.  I think it is worth it and we should be grateful to Keita
would did the actual coding.

Best, Arash

Message #43 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: bug-auctex <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#69000: Error while upgrading
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:53:19 +0100

Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org> writes:

>  OTOH, I'd like say that AUCTeX was stable for many years and for this
> release, some internals were changed and we discussed possible
> breakage upfront.  The change was inevitable so it is up to us to
> guide users through the update process now.

All good, it's acceptable in such a situation.  There have been much
worse kinds of breakage in other packages quite often.


Thanks again,

Michael.

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