From unknown Mon Sep 08 13:55:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#68974] [PATCH 2/4] guix-days-2024: Update notes and reorganise. Resent-From: Steve George Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 16:04:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 68974 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 68876@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: 68974@debbugs.gnu.org, steve@futurile.net X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: guix-patches@gnu.org, Steve George Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.17073218356882 (code B ref -1); Wed, 07 Feb 2024 16:04:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2024 16:03:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOw-0001mw-PH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:03:55 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:58912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOs-0001lo-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:03:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOZ-0001FP-Kv for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:03:31 -0500 Received: from mailtransmit04.runbox.com ([2a0c:5a00:149::25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOY-0007pp-3L for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:03:31 -0500 Received: from mailtransmit03.runbox ([10.9.9.163] helo=aibo.runbox.com) by mailtransmit04.runbox.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOV-00HDeI-Ib for guix-patches@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:03:27 +0100 Received: from [10.9.9.72] (helo=submission01.runbox) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rXkOU-0001pI-UH; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:03:27 +0100 Received: by submission01.runbox with esmtpsa [Authenticated ID (641962)] (TLS1.2:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) id 1rXkOA-004msP-JM; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 17:03:06 +0100 From: Steve George Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:01:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4a836d4bdfeff9f5ff50a0eda267c87ea5ecae7d.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.41.0 In-Reply-To: <8848460cf7f33e3a84787e25cce70c4acfd7f852.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> References: <8848460cf7f33e3a84787e25cce70c4acfd7f852.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: permerror client-ip=2a0c:5a00:149::25; envelope-from=steve@futurile.net; helo=mailtransmit04.runbox.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * plenary.org: Integrate additional notes & reorganise. --- doc/guix-days-2024/0_plenary.md | 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 93 insertions(+) create mode 100644 doc/guix-days-2024/0_plenary.md diff --git a/doc/guix-days-2024/0_plenary.md b/doc/guix-days-2024/0_plenary.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..3edb580 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/guix-days-2024/0_plenary.md @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +# Notes from the Guix Days plenary session + +- Date: Thursday, Feb. 1st, 2024 and Friday, Feb. 2nd, 2024 +- Attendees: 33 people at the events opening, including new users and Nix people + +## Main Track + +- Introduction to Goblins by Christine from Spritely Institute +- Status of Guix by Efraim +- Guix QA update by Chris + +Sessions: + +- [Goblins and Hoot](goblins-hoot-guix.md) (Christine) +- [Infrastructure](infrastructure.md) (Alexis) +- Documentation (Julien) +- Guix Home (Gabor) +- [Alternative Architectures](architecture-support.org) (Efraim) +- Bootstrapping (Janneke) +- Release (Julien) + + +### Day 2 + +Sessions: + +- Funding (Christine) +- [Governance/Maintainers](governance.org) (Efraim + Chris) +- [Patch flow](patch-flow.md) (Steve) +- [Guix CLI improvements](cli.md) (Jonathan) +- Profiling (Adriel) +- Hurd (Janneke) +- L10N (Julien) +- [Hoot](goblins-hoot-guix.md) (Christine) +- Newbie room (Gabor) +- Onboarding (Gabor) + + +### Ideas that didn’t make it to sessions + +- Shepherd +- HPC + + +## Status update (Efraim) + + - last release 1 year old + - installer + - working okay + - does not cater to the needs of power users (e.g., btrfs on encrypted) + - problems when choosing EXWM + - allow choosing the Hurd? + - substitute availability is good for x86_64 + - currently 98% or so + - qa.guix gives a summary + - 32-bit support is in a poor state + - idea: estimate i686 substitute usage using server logs? + - is ARMv7 (32-bit, armhf-linux) used at all? + - onboarding + - "not a lot of projects are doing email patches" + - people maintain their own stack of patches they don't submit + - "we need to do something on our side" + - teams + - "nice but not perfect", "mostly working" + - what about patches with no associated teams? + - Rust team is just Efraim + - sysadmin + - small bus factor + - Chris in charge qa.guix, data.guix, etc. + - berlin was building slowly early January: needed to vacuum the + posgresql database + - we're moving faster + - #5 on Repology + - we should talk more about package availability + - time traps + - "virtual build machine" service to address that + - could be used for 2038 bug testing + - RISC-V builds broke with some kernel update + - SWH + +## Guix Quality assurance update (Chris Baines) + + - architecture diagram + - entry points: https://qa.guix.gnu.org/patches, + https://qa.guix.gnu.org/reproducible-builds + - question about “slowness” of builds + - could use a different prioritirization method + - could add more hardware + - https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org/activity -> it’s busy :-) + +## Actions + +- TBD -- 2.41.0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 23 15:20:21 2024 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2024 20:20:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1t-0003y3-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1k-0003wf-PV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rdbgj-0001CS-HG for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:58:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:Subject:From:To:Date:in-reply-to: references; bh=n5MVfY043q1TyVGthK439pzhrb//hcmcxbd/FKECbuw=; b=RtWPz9FYUNCJu8 3NSKzLClKX5T0BdZ1g0lwTKXZabvGwumyvkI5Zt82VQ9OIR0SSu9haegkbK+TC3U1Ky0c+HlHaEC6 s9xEG3M25A/wf/K82+ox6NHlmmQxd6IbiQyYBAPfplD56e+hTfkoe/IqlMwyZizS9rgvC2WiNeNXW bIWWJYfKbknLQYXZ/Kb8Y9KgNVE6KUV/qrfI5walAYNditHj1ADAfx4XkavN+Td0w1AReSGMmgy6n QKBK5eDZx+wgdLe1ADdHkGfZOyJgUdVjfvr3wuB/odJbxtg1R/sqA1QiCKtKC2Urn995Ch9m7hTmQ fSCniBAAWosIaujNZycg==; Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:58:23 +0100 Message-Id: <87cysndkbk.fsf@gnu.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: control message for bug #68974 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 68974 quit From unknown Mon Sep 08 13:55:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#68974] [PATCH 2/4] guix-days-2024: Update notes and reorganise. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:21:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68974 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Steve George Cc: 68876@debbugs.gnu.org, 68974-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 68974-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D68974.170871962215272 (code D ref 68974); Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:21:05 +0000 Received: (at 68974-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2024 20:20:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1t-0003y7-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1l-0003wf-6H; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rdbfA-0000o8-Cx; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:56:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=rnigKINY9L2PucVzqDC4pzKH81wlhMq53KgY1RT6g9A=; b=Hs5hsbeoXJFe90oHrBM6 bg1357Avtrh39DcNjFq5so0qDymRWRU1+CpQYGmg1Vf5t95qhvj3tmDAN6nRwGxAQwxhoHQyJ4g18 l0lT9apxIEivKXZtmHge6BaYSRu8NMdchDhMR1tJZT9NRZqu9mMxJBkDpTP0rJ0Dcm88EyPQS9V4U T0HNeTFpLmiqdtF4rT8qSfRQfCeS06eBuQp2fFfHf4hxlss6QAVNkxSYQAod2SY6IPI5/b/7k2DK8 q4EnXKDcCbs68kXSSV/2YT9u4uDvoypQGcyCkdkf/O1H0bXYJT/T/kQJn5oaEWdnamwtYGiSvWa3h KI1YImzJlo0LpQ==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <4a836d4bdfeff9f5ff50a0eda267c87ea5ecae7d.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> (Steve George's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:01:54 +0000") References: <8848460cf7f33e3a84787e25cce70c4acfd7f852.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> <4a836d4bdfeff9f5ff50a0eda267c87ea5ecae7d.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87frxjdkfo.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Steve George skribis: > * plenary.org: Integrate additional notes & reorganise. Applied, thank you, and apologies for not noticing earlier! Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Mon Sep 08 13:55:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#68974] [PATCH 2/4] guix-days-2024: Update notes and reorganise. Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:21:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68974 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Steve George Cc: 68876@debbugs.gnu.org, 68974-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 68974-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D68974.170871962315286 (code D ref 68974); Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:21:06 +0000 Received: (at 68974-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2024 20:20:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1u-0003yO-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdc1m-0003wf-BM; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:20:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rdbe5-0000eV-Ia; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:55:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=rnigKINY9L2PucVzqDC4pzKH81wlhMq53KgY1RT6g9A=; b=Vk+/8UuWwk0ivLcOncsW Dlj5J10VMvyD80hLRPK+na/uWQjbuCbfQmWU628iXC1kuyu3kLkN2OPdinpIOcK1ERwPFp/fkCj0J moo8L+pLcwPkbtK/CglHDLOTBFWdtuLJLeHNycdXekfjdF4Wb6NgvYU/8mLuqQB+nECzAdNTcY4uk YOlTZ16ZfZ1qPNWfvEcusMuaIh3snNKx3z3qtmnaQveL1VcjBLyEHZh+bhkvlyB9RonJF3/Q8mqGt F56J1QlqD7sYl/wM4VJRZltYh11bwH9EYH/00dEEvKAgK5PN460rukTq85a+ujaaZPbT7+45uX5Ib bgzxonqr4dZ/YQ==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <4a836d4bdfeff9f5ff50a0eda267c87ea5ecae7d.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> (Steve George's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:01:54 +0000") References: <8848460cf7f33e3a84787e25cce70c4acfd7f852.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> <4a836d4bdfeff9f5ff50a0eda267c87ea5ecae7d.1707321700.git.steve@futurile.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:54:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87il2fdkhj.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Steve George skribis: > * plenary.org: Integrate additional notes & reorganise. Applied, thank you, and apologies for not noticing earlier! Ludo=E2=80=99.