From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 20 08:40:35 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2010 12:40:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OmQte-00017a-IN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:40:35 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OmQtb-00017U-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:40:33 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:50203) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OmQuj-0001t5-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:41:41 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37521 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OmQuh-0005cP-HV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:41:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OmQue-0002Ry-NW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:41:39 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:64351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OmQue-0002Re-Eb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:41:36 -0400 Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so2796953wwa.30 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:41:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:organization :date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=/oBzHbWUn43cK4gIxsBvvOBwyJjzF0uBobJkzCadV+A=; b=yGKQg93Eo9ClVT3I3mRdoOTPo3j5D6leZoELeBRK1T6L4PXj2vXJXRqWcEOonAEQuu YZzBFzr0CIWOnFoIrU5pr5u850gvwGix52P7nW87tzvA9EMG6aMfChDeacWlSPyWJRVB fN0ogk+PCkkGmj+8K7uTxwfzlVMnuGkfFHXO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:organization:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; b=gVoS9OyppulSmISQt2a7fAjYac8koQHqZAMdSTYIY09xWmtKnFuMDrtINPTzpMkD+y OsxbSZD3JGkMZ1+22S+Uu+tc+6w0G6+ARY9yTlWO009QHv5CQ56qnBdPtRNuICFJxWIW 2eoMAlsfZ4QNloJbaYFksSXkx+Cs7+1crQpxA= Received: by 10.227.141.138 with SMTP id m10mr1222150wbu.20.1282308095326; Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tux.homenetwork (114.77.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.77.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p42sm1747606weq.12.2010.08.20.05.41.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:41:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct Organization: ThierryVolpiatto Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:39:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Hi all, i have already posted on emacs-dev, and i had no answer, so i assume there is no good reason to use the more recent file of the marked files as reference timestamp for all the marked files. This actual behavior doesn't fit with what the manual describe nor with the default behavior of shell command touch. This actual behavior seem to be more like the shell command touch does with the "-r" option that take a reference file as argument to set a timestamp. Maybe this approach is better: if the emacs touch command is "touch -r", use as default input the more recent file (what will be the same as what is used actually), otherwise, if the touch command is set to "touch" without args, use current-time as default timestamp. Even better would be a variable to handle touch command and one to handle args. 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(envelope-from ) id 1PuL3J-0005OY-Cp; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:35:29 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> X-Spook: INSCOM SDI MD2 benelux bce CID Fedayeen Exon Shell X-Ran: ED8nY~j}=^X[T9byW,*V$rSV17D9>\Z*s"0a."FQlA[),z3#14O%wN84^ X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:35:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:39:11 +0200") Message-ID: <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 Cc: juri@jurta.org, 6887@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > i have already posted on emacs-dev, and i had no answer, so i assume > there is no good reason to use the more recent file of the marked files > as reference timestamp for all the marked files. I don't see the behaviour that you describe, but I am confused by what the point of dired-touch-initial is supposed to be (cc: to original author). If there is one file, it always returns the current timestamp of that file. If there are multiple files, if they all happen to have the same timestamp, it will return that time. If any one of them has a different time-stamp, it returns the current time. I'm having a hard time seeing what this is supposed to be useful for. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 01 05:36:41 2011 Received: (at 6887) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2011 10:36:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PuMwa-0004Aj-SN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 05:36:41 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PuMwY-0004AU-FO for 6887@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 05:36:38 -0500 Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so4206993fxm.3 for <6887@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:36:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=rdVsI+ToWx6k7nCSXnCiiWWYAcp6XkmnC4oONp0O9eo=; b=ulXBAVuGV4cz52E6cLKyR2HH11RuogQD/w0bu1iaQynDvSwfNH3bn2XcyOtG0PTb5Y asXGLmzjffPbbkeNeg2rRutGVUQi0hMDzRxnSX2TPq9dF+pXQTsxi8FpZkHeWOYfY0vF 2jb85MwtkwHuBw13mCspOODZFHaz/jXgTygoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=Tbd8YqiBQntmhPuS8Z0p3m1zzOAwqs25CJdBzNX5KZhYA6tQhjLa+lFlxUo+ZLTczt aRHTU8ipUHWTB0/lE06SIztDgyYHLYz9m2Nybog+Aoh8py3oYlnIhHANP0Ipf2bUhoek XTx7J8yXrR2oOhFJyLJvxU94G9vwlvcAhn+vM= Received: by 10.223.157.6 with SMTP id z6mr233204faw.13.1298975697073; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from thierry-MM061 (238.78.88-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.88.78.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j12sm1608422fax.33.2011.03.01.02.34.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:34:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:35:28 -0500") Message-ID: <878vwz86ya.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/23.2.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 Cc: juri@jurta.org, 6887@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > >> i have already posted on emacs-dev, and i had no answer, so i assume >> there is no good reason to use the more recent file of the marked files >> as reference timestamp for all the marked files. > > I don't see the behaviour that you describe, but I am confused by what > the point of dired-touch-initial is supposed to be (cc: to original > author). > > If there is one file, it always returns the current timestamp of that > file. > > If there are multiple files, if they all happen to have the same > timestamp, it will return that time. > If any one of them has a different time-stamp, it returns the current > time. This is correct. > I'm having a hard time seeing what this is supposed to be useful for. When i posted this, IIRC the behavior was different, with multiple files selected, the earlier one was choosen for timestamp.(nearly one year ago). -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 03 18:52:08 2011 Received: (at 6887) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2011 23:52:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvIJU-0007yy-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:52:08 -0500 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvIJS-0007yS-6v for 6887@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:52:06 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BFA6E8046; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC47451C16C; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct Organization: JURTA References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:27:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 01 Mar 2011 03:35:28 -0500") Message-ID: <87zkpbojgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 Cc: 6887@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >> i have already posted on emacs-dev, and i had no answer, so i assume >> there is no good reason to use the more recent file of the marked files >> as reference timestamp for all the marked files. > > I don't see the behaviour that you describe, but I am confused by what > the point of dired-touch-initial is supposed to be (cc: to original > author). In http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/81414/focus=82988 I proposed another patch for the default values of dired touch. Maybe it will provide better defaults. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 03 21:54:30 2011 Received: (at 6887) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2011 02:54:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvL9x-0004Hv-PU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:54:30 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvL9v-0004He-MY for 6887@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:54:28 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52357) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PvL9l-0006zR-Bf; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:54:17 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zkpbojgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Spook: United Nations data haven Fedayeen Kh-11 Reno nitrate X-Ran: I4_k575$bdKM=v::PWB}Ji>Z?N'{oi#nQciKvs#6m,_9{['RpLwn-&3P~uc/3^5qGa705Q X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:54:16 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 Cc: 6887@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Juri Linkov wrote: >> I don't see the behaviour that you describe, but I am confused by what >> the point of dired-touch-initial is supposed to be (cc: to original >> author). > > In http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/81414/focus=82988 > I proposed another patch for the default values of dired touch. I don't understand what that version is supposed to do either. I don't think I have ever used "touch" interactively and wanted anything other than the current time. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 04 01:33:39 2011 Received: (at 6887) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2011 06:33:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvOa3-0000cP-A3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:33:39 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvOa1-0000cC-Iy for 6887@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:33:38 -0500 Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so1799315fxm.3 for <6887@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:33:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=dvRfkeCPBM+jtC3Nl2M/g12z82qOWpzUsRKcCH5vnx8=; b=PdkTYPJVIfc9ph8dxL9OTqPstITRSPgl/H0CNAN/aq52vAWm9nB91LmGPgsF8BLyvq LKG+q53jJ1936pIGIVAsqODeAVBtKnJd/qYKjI62os+tSdNLBifJu6m6kitG3ur+aMBr SdgeS9OfMsMPIZsSMxOYtfa2kUnpmexPuIGBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=K0iTFmiE56MXy7tMqHxTWnWjNS3aKvPJ1kTGehcZskLT5TCVLD8fewrbaC8B9VyZnd QIitHaF3iCOHvjD6meOGgN8/ZK5a0BJ+uG0ceYZQqWwJnKkok69fjIeWYnn1iC6P6rRM RIvVOgjGw84rkAqUBCZFlG/V8qh/m1afTir0U= Received: by 10.223.28.65 with SMTP id l1mr309799fac.29.1299220411832; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from thierry-MM061 (238.78.88-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.88.78.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm295680fam.39.2011.03.03.22.33.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:33:30 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zkpbojgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 07:33:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:54:16 -0500") Message-ID: <87ipvz5r9j.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 Cc: Juri Linkov , 6887@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > Juri Linkov wrote: > >>> I don't see the behaviour that you describe, but I am confused by what >>> the point of dired-touch-initial is supposed to be (cc: to original >>> author). >> >> In http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/81414/focus=82988 >> I proposed another patch for the default values of dired touch. > > I don't understand what that version is supposed to do either. > > I don't think I have ever used "touch" interactively and wanted anything > other than the current time. Please, keep current time. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 20 22:09:35 2011 Received: (at 6887-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2011 02:09:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNbdG-0000kB-LO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNbdE-0000iw-Lv for 6887-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:32 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43603) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QNbd9-00079j-BL; Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 6887-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zkpbojgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ipvz5r9j.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: Ron Brown LABLINK oil Area 51 Jyllandsposten Rule Psix X-Ran: e$2Hv:F3"~z;ZDv$E{8.kYBoFd2orZ&Hc"i-UhR]^mK@|k2L.\i1"]XbB[@#HqC? X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:27 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Version: 24.1 I've simply made it use the current time, since that is what the manual says, and no-one can explain what the current version is supposed to be doing. From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:23:54 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 04:55:17 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2011 08:55:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qn5KH-0000ga-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 04:55:17 -0400 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qn5KE-0000gN-AB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 04:55:15 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0C6E8072 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5C3451C34B for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: unarchive 6887 Organization: JURTA Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:46:36 +0300 Message-ID: <87wrf017gz.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) unarchive 6887 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 30 05:17:46 2011 Received: (at 6887) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2011 09:17:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qn5g2-00022M-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 05:17:46 -0400 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qn5g0-00022F-0u for 6887@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 05:17:45 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9AC6E8059 for <6887@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 02:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B559A451C34B for <6887@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 02:17:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov To: 6887@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.2.50; Initial input of dired touch command not correct Organization: JURTA References: <87pqxda26o.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <0e39n7grvz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zkpbojgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ipvz5r9j.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:14:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:27 -0400") Message-ID: <87bowc16ns.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6887 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Please see the emacs-devel thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-07/msg01175.html From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:23:54 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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