From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:42:47 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#68788 <68788@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#68788 <68788@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate Reply-To: bug#68788 <68788@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:42:47 +0000 retitle 68788 29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate reassign 68788 emacs submitter 68788 Christopher Yeleighton severity 68788 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 28 17:38:45 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2024 22:38:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDnZ-0003eu-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:38:45 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:59866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDnX-0003ec-F5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:38:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDnK-0008Od-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:38:30 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2] helo=shark.2a.pl) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDnH-0001jy-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:38:29 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0284A175080F for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:38:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F8_ggWxf8gVC for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:50:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 883D2175080C for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:38:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7dd9b3dc-753d-4128-9672-fa4446dfbe57@stegny.2a.pl> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:38:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate Content-Language: en-US From: Christopher Yeleighton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: none client-ip=213.77.90.2; envelope-from=giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl; helo=shark.2a.pl X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) (let* ((text (car fancy-startup-text)) (string-or-face (nth #o3 text)) (maybe-face (nth #o2 text))) (if (or (stringp string-or-face) (eq :face string-or-face) (eq :face maybe-face)) nil (error "Found an unexpected element [%s] in the 1st fancy start-up text list. It is not a FACE because [%s] is not [%s]." string-or-face maybe-face :face))) C-x C-e > if: Found an unexpected element [:link] in the 1st fancy start-up text list. > It is not a FACE because [Welcome to ] is not [:face]. In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8) Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101010 System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --sysconfdir=/etc --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib --with-tree-sitter --localstatedir=/var --with-cairo --disable-build-details --with-harfbuzz --with-libsystemd --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs/src=/usr/src/debug/emacs -flto=auto' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now -flto=auto'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: pl_PL.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Help Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t outline-minor-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t isearch-fold-quotes-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: (only . t) auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (gnutls network-stream url-http url-gw nsm url-cache url-auth eww xdg url-queue shr pixel-fill kinsoku url-file svg xml dom mm-url gnus nnheader range wid-edit tutorial compose cus-start cus-load display-line-numbers xref project lpr thai-util thai-word repeat mailalias mailclient textsec uni-scripts idna-mapping ucs-normalize uni-confusable textsec-check facemenu shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message yank-media puny rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util url-parse url-vars mailcap mule-util info tar-mode arc-mode archive-mode sh-script rx smie treesit executable files-x conf-mode shell pcomplete comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring dired-aux dired dired-loaddefs noutline outline icons two-column kmacro debug backtrace find-func face-remap shortdoc text-property-search cl-extra cl-print erc-lang erc-goodies erc iso8601 auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs password-cache json map pp format-spec erc-backend erc-networks byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile erc-common erc-compat erc-loaddefs thingatpt help-fns radix-tree jka-compr misearch multi-isearch time-date subr-x rfc1345 quail help-mode cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 562893 66057) (symbols 48 29963 22) (strings 32 156709 5018) (string-bytes 1 3350397) (vectors 16 69614) (vector-slots 8 2050911 132687) (floats 8 143 402) (intervals 56 22273 1269) (buffers 984 29)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 28 17:42:33 2024 Received: (at 68788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2024 22:42:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDrE-0003mT-Vx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:42:33 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:57769 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUDrD-0003mA-JN for 68788@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:42:31 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D766175080F for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:42:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JYcAFVsv6iah for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:54:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3B97E175080B for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:42:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:42:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68788: Acknowledgement (29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate) Content-Language: en-US To: 68788@debbugs.gnu.org References: <7dd9b3dc-753d-4128-9672-fa4446dfbe57@stegny.2a.pl> From: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68788 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The help string should not mention what the variable is allowed to contain, the specification should be in one place only. On 28.01.2024 22:39, GNU bug Tracking System wrote: > Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org. > > This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message > has been received. > > Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other > interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. > > Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please > send it to 68788@debbugs.gnu.org. > > Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@gnu.org unless you wish > to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 28 17:53:42 2024 Received: (at 68788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2024 22:53:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUE22-0004DB-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:53:42 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:58296 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUE20-0004Ct-9X for 68788@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:53:41 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB31D175080F for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:53:23 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZUkA0ULiAB9 for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:05:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4B48E175080C for <68788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 23:53:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:53:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68788: Acknowledgement (29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate) Content-Language: en-US To: 68788@debbugs.gnu.org References: <7dd9b3dc-753d-4128-9672-fa4446dfbe57@stegny.2a.pl> From: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68788 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) BTW, I have the following question: If fancy-startup-text is a list of lists, each of them containing a separate line of text, why does it contain just one list?  I mean, it works as is, I just find the value conceptually inconsistent with the model. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 29 07:59:40 2024 Received: (at 68788-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2024 12:59:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59251 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUREh-0002dL-Sw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 07:59:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rUREf-0002d9-Ry for 68788-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 07:59:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rUREP-0006ZU-Hm; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 07:59:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=DSUAwM/LoKoPDe63SZdVPtwSojy8e+CPOZ0t90RkXE8=; b=qtwvlYqnAdsAxXObYDh7 DJoRGqN2UypwxSVonnG4o4Jkg6QaLdUdG1lGqU5LSQBrEQ7STowpTBP6NtfPVX+/nl94Yr4S/Ityh sk2guw5k386UcLKMUCepqvSZ1Fw60j9Wxgn1eFkEwIeGv6/1JB/c/ADk+P8lTp7t7F2+PlM59oADf O3dnyN+0+TVFsxH7pi7To5RwtSDTRJi0325Ls51p+e7LFEPrpy2qSlQPlqjJOqB4InIqGDma+782w Gr/RKzy5VPJ5c4D66jHgtUUNcoU0WdCZLFi/nSxiDpgaBMDwt01qeJVkNTa2Z4K0yCLPjN4a7siDI LTHYxXPxoo82wQ==; Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 14:59:18 +0200 Message-Id: <868r4847o9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:42:14 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68788: 29.1; fancy-startup-text help string is inaccurate References: <7dd9b3dc-753d-4128-9672-fa4446dfbe57@stegny.2a.pl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68788-done Cc: 68788-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:42:14 +0000 > From: Christopher Yeleighton > > The help string should not mention what the variable is allowed to contain, > the specification should be in one place only. Thanks, fixed. > BTW, I have the following question: > > If fancy-startup-text is a list of lists, each of them containing a > separate line of text, why does it contain just one list?  I mean, it > works as is, I just find the value conceptually inconsistent with the model. I have no idea. Maybe someone wanted the data structure to be easily extensible? Maybe if you look at this code's history, you will find the answer? Closing. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:42:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 12:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator