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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) The node says only this: You can save a profile to a file using 'C-x C-w'. The doc says nothing about how to make use of such a saved profile, in particular, how to read it into the profiler UI again. I naively tried visiting the file and then `M-x profiler-report-mode'. But that just showed a single line of 68K characters. In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 24 14:36:31 2024 Received: (at 68693-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2024 19:36:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSj30-0001W5-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:36:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSj2y-0001Vo-B6 for 68693-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:36:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rSj2m-0000Ae-W6; Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:36:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+HD8ELO7VDW/0GjxVHMJctrjK8BYlgwMb08g1IZILoc=; b=h6WO2NgJsI9L AooCzqHJwAWRuh0+mb730MNcIPkLr0puPq3BxALOfNhPuV+xCBok9m5fNDd9E6neoves/C87h6kSy +hI6nqMrftGizKKnDzO0ZLiAYyfuXLZ5ejPsoyXFs12OYq8Ccd/YxW9wMDceEWLb9qjjSOVSkgaNe P2cnJ6/LpbpFvNaZ1QA98F0WuUpqeNX0Plz72BT90V7bVrtTOohvDpsc83xJt+gEogEhJdf/eFGr0 okZS6Qg69HdZySi++Kr4e5Iccow06tiAUVhUcHh+RTkVgUToaNdNm3BTk0CvM9o/pxsjQdvAAeJWm I2VZf/3PK1lzvzuNUvcdOg==; Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 21:36:05 +0200 Message-Id: <86v87icymy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:48:17 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68693: 26.3; (elisp) `Profiling': Say how to use (e.g. read) a saved profile References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68693-done Cc: 68693-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:48:17 +0000 > > The node says only this: > > You can save a profile to a file using 'C-x C-w'. > > The doc says nothing about how to make use of such a saved profile, in > particular, how to read it into the profiler UI again. Thanks, fixed on the emacs-29 branch. > I naively tried visiting the file and then `M-x > profiler-report-mode'. But that just showed a single line of 68K > characters. Use "M-x profiler-find-profile". 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Thx. A suggestion would be to also add that to the menu-bar menu (if you didn't also do that just now). 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A suggestion would be to also add > that to the menu-bar menu (if you didn't > also do that just now). I don't think it should be on the menu, for the same reason it doesn't have a key binding: this is a relatively rare command, used only be people who for some reason receive profiles from others. Saving a profile, by contrast, is a much more frequent operation. 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A suggestion would be to also add > > that to the menu-bar menu (if you didn't > > also do that just now). >=20 > I don't think it should be on the menu, for the same reason it doesn't > have a key binding: this is a relatively rare command, used only be > people who for some reason receive profiles from others. Saving a > profile, by contrast, is a much more frequent operation. I guess I don't understand why. Why would you save a profile if you don't want to later access it? OK, you might want to compare two profiles, with `=3D', but I'd think that would be less common than looking again at a profile that you saved. If you delete a profiler report buffer then you have to profile all over again, to revisit it. Comparing has a key (`=3D'), but just revisiting doesn't. Why? I haven't been using profiler, so I don't really understand its use, I guess. What am I missing? Why is saving a frequent operation but using (revisiting) a saved profile is rare? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 25 02:34:11 2024 Received: (at 68693) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2024 07:34:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSuFX-0001gj-DW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:34:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rSuFV-0001gW-HT for 68693@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:34:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rSuFK-0001J1-8K; Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:33:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=fMsqvjEViv9RRh10z0is1zwobNRjYvD6E6w0uouAOmU=; b=O0yyhMS+Wtuj Dk+Mst8F7RIxaTKmanye/OFB8tsOKI7bFMuqKwMaJ0dFWIMQXZ8jOB8Huq8RIjjZbT4tPPTimENiz 8rccjKuEE4Y8t+SJedESjOMGMnQkcMLn3Ow9WVhvFzE4/ikCb3mdi15F11s9qLaicFAgnxOXNdHAf BVzNn2AuDE4dsRGEs7EZyLIT/Oj5h72IryYHvr9OXHONjMavUL7zL9HEFIQ8f3Gdv2KwN7fY4auFG KmIU8X/09FH8RUV1K7psFVBalvfb8i1M+DzPd2spG8eha8K17kTf4wpTHTo8s0C646ffwV7+1x8r/ RH0Zcr0i0bmBfWUJi+/ZxQ==; Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 09:33:56 +0200 Message-Id: <86msstdfyz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 24 Jan 2024 22:05:10 +0000) Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#68693: 26.3; (elisp) `Profiling': Say how to use (e.g. read) a saved profile References: <86v87icymy.fsf@gnu.org> <86ttn2cwv3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68693 Cc: 68693@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > CC: "68693@debbugs.gnu.org" <68693@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 22:05:10 +0000 > > > > > Thanks, fixed on the emacs-29 branch. > > > > > > > > Use "M-x profiler-find-profile". > > > > > > Thx. A suggestion would be to also add > > > that to the menu-bar menu (if you didn't > > > also do that just now). > > > > I don't think it should be on the menu, for the same reason it doesn't > > have a key binding: this is a relatively rare command, used only be > > people who for some reason receive profiles from others. Saving a > > profile, by contrast, is a much more frequent operation. > > I guess I don't understand why. Why would > you save a profile if you don't want to > later access it? You'd save a profile if you want to send it to someone else, or post it in its raw form as part of a bug report. If you want to just save it for yourself, you can save its textual representation via write-region. Then it will be a text file that you can look at with any text viewer. > If you delete a profiler report buffer then > you have to profile all over again, to > revisit it. No, see above. > I haven't been using profiler, so I don't > really understand its use, I guess. What > am I missing? Why is saving a frequent > operation but using (revisiting) a saved > profile is rare? I tried to explain that, see above. From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:02:04 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 12:24:15 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator