Package: emacs;
Reported by: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:36:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 30.0.50
Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
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From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:35:26 +0200
I noticed when opening a file which isn't readable that read-only-mode-hooks are not executed. 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) 2. open file that is read-only 3. foobar should be print but isn't. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.39, cairo version 1.18.0) System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Configured using: 'configure --disable-build-details --without-pop --with-mailutils --without-hesiod --with-gameuser=:games --with-kerberos --with-kerberos5 --with-file-notification=inotify --with-modules --enable-autodepend --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --with-file-notification=yes --libdir=/usr/lib64 --with-native-compilation=aot --enable-locallisppath=/usr/share/emacs/30.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-x --with-xim --with-sound --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png --with-rsvg --with-dbus --with-xft --without-gpm --with-tree-sitter --with-pgtk --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --x-includes=/usr/include --x-libraries=/usr/lib64 --with-libotf --with-m17n-flt --with-cairo --with-xwidgets 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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de>, Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 11:00:47 +0200
On January 21, 2024 10:35:26 PM GMT+02:00, "Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> wrote: > I noticed when opening a file which isn't readable that > read-only-mode-hooks are not executed. > > 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) > 2. open file that is read-only > 3. foobar should be print but isn't. That's because read-only-mode is not entered when you visit a write-protected file. Maybe we should call the hook anyway, I'm not sure. We don't honor view-read-only either in these cases, for the same reason.
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From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:47:01 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: > On January 21, 2024 10:35:26 PM GMT+02:00, "Björn Bidar via Bug > reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" > <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> wrote: >> I noticed when opening a file which isn't readable that >> read-only-mode-hooks are not executed. >> >> 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) >> 2. open file that is read-only >> 3. foobar should be print but isn't. > > That's because read-only-mode is not entered when you visit a > write-protected file. It does look like the mode is entered because when calling read-only-mode it is disabled.
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> Cc: 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:23:16 +0200
> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> > Cc: Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, > 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:47:01 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: > > >> 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) > >> 2. open file that is read-only > >> 3. foobar should be print but isn't. > > > > That's because read-only-mode is not entered when you visit a > > write-protected file. > > It does look like the mode is entered because when calling > read-only-mode it is disabled. That's only a circumstantial evidence. read-only-mode is a thin wrapper around buffer-read-only variable, but setting buffer-read-only directly (which is what we do when you visit a write-protected file) doesn't invoke the mode function, and thus the mode hook is not run. For the same reason, the setting of view-read-only is not honored in the scenario you described.
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 11:48:31 +0200
> Cc: 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:23:16 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> > > > From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> > > Cc: Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, > > 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:47:01 +0200 > > > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: > > > > >> 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) > > >> 2. open file that is read-only > > >> 3. foobar should be print but isn't. > > > > > > That's because read-only-mode is not entered when you visit a > > > write-protected file. > > > > It does look like the mode is entered because when calling > > read-only-mode it is disabled. > > That's only a circumstantial evidence. read-only-mode is a thin > wrapper around buffer-read-only variable, but setting buffer-read-only > directly (which is what we do when you visit a write-protected file) > doesn't invoke the mode function, and thus the mode hook is not run. > For the same reason, the setting of view-read-only is not honored in > the scenario you described. Stefan & Stefan, any comments or opinions on this issue? I' debating whether to do anything (and if so, what) about this, or close this bug as wontfix. TIA
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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:17:13 -0500
>> > >> 1. (add-hook 'read-only-mode-hook (lambda () (print "foobar"))) >> > >> 2. open file that is read-only >> > >> 3. foobar should be print but isn't. >> > > That's because read-only-mode is not entered when you visit a >> > > write-protected file. >> > It does look like the mode is entered because when calling >> > read-only-mode it is disabled. I agree that it's far from clear that "read-only-mode is not entered". >> That's only a circumstantial evidence. read-only-mode is a thin >> wrapper around buffer-read-only variable, but setting buffer-read-only >> directly (which is what we do when you visit a write-protected file) >> doesn't invoke the mode function, and thus the mode hook is not run. That's the technical explanation of what happens, but it's not very satisfactory as a justification for why it should happen. >> For the same reason, the setting of view-read-only is not honored in >> the scenario you described. I don't understand what you're trying to say here: emacs --eval '(setq view-read-only t)' -Q /etc/password does put me in `view-mode`, so the setting of `view-read-only` seems to be honored. > Stefan & Stefan, any comments or opinions on this issue? I' debating > whether to do anything (and if so, what) about this, or close this bug > as wontfix. [ This a bug of my own making, when I decided to replace `toggle-read-only` with`read-only-mode`. ] I'd be in favor of replacing the `(setq buffer-read-only t)` with `(read-only-mode 1)`, but it will require other changes: since calling `read-only-mode` will handle `view-read-only`, it might make for a nice simplification, but since the code is fairly complex over there, it might also make things worse. Stefan
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 16:58:36 +0200
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> > Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, > 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:17:13 -0500 > > > Stefan & Stefan, any comments or opinions on this issue? I' debating > > whether to do anything (and if so, what) about this, or close this bug > > as wontfix. > > [ This a bug of my own making, when I decided to replace > `toggle-read-only` with`read-only-mode`. ] > > I'd be in favor of replacing the `(setq buffer-read-only t)` with > `(read-only-mode 1)`, but it will require other changes: since calling > `read-only-mode` will handle `view-read-only`, it might make for a nice > simplification, but since the code is fairly complex over there, it > might also make things worse. I agree that it would be nice to clean this up, but since it isn't easy (which I, of course, noticed as well), I'm not sure it is worth our while, given that the problem is really minor. Thus my doubts and my question.
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From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>, stefankangas <at> gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 19:58:19 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> >> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, >> 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:17:13 -0500 >> >> > Stefan & Stefan, any comments or opinions on this issue? I' debating >> > whether to do anything (and if so, what) about this, or close this bug >> > as wontfix. >> >> [ This a bug of my own making, when I decided to replace >> `toggle-read-only` with`read-only-mode`. ] >> >> I'd be in favor of replacing the `(setq buffer-read-only t)` with >> `(read-only-mode 1)`, but it will require other changes: since calling >> `read-only-mode` will handle `view-read-only`, it might make for a nice >> simplification, but since the code is fairly complex over there, it >> might also make things worse. > > I agree that it would be nice to clean this up, but since it isn't > easy (which I, of course, noticed as well), I'm not sure it is worth > our while, given that the problem is really minor. Thus my doubts and > my question. I think trying to fix the problem if it so minor can take time. However closing it as won't is not a good idea because of the ambiguity of semantics here. It's easy to misunderstanding if you don't know.
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 11:32:28 +0200
> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com > Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 16:58:36 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> > > > From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> > > Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, > > 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:17:13 -0500 > > > > > Stefan & Stefan, any comments or opinions on this issue? I' debating > > > whether to do anything (and if so, what) about this, or close this bug > > > as wontfix. > > > > [ This a bug of my own making, when I decided to replace > > `toggle-read-only` with`read-only-mode`. ] > > > > I'd be in favor of replacing the `(setq buffer-read-only t)` with > > `(read-only-mode 1)`, but it will require other changes: since calling > > `read-only-mode` will handle `view-read-only`, it might make for a nice > > simplification, but since the code is fairly complex over there, it > > might also make things worse. > > I agree that it would be nice to clean this up, but since it isn't > easy (which I, of course, noticed as well), I'm not sure it is worth > our while, given that the problem is really minor. Thus my doubts and > my question. On second thought, would it be okay to just call the mode hook where we set buffer-read-only in after-find-file?
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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 11:28:42 -0500
> On second thought, would it be okay to just call the mode hook where > we set buffer-read-only in after-find-file? It's probably an acceptable middle ground until someone goes through the trouble of sorting out how to make the code call `read-only-mode`. Even better if the `run-hooks` is accompanied with a FIXME explaining that :-) Stefan
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#68648: 30.0.50; read-only-mode-hook's are not executed when buffer-read-only is t Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:09:53 -0500
Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> On second thought, would it be okay to just call the mode hook where >> we set buffer-read-only in after-find-file? > > It's probably an acceptable middle ground until someone goes through the > trouble of sorting out how to make the code call `read-only-mode`. > Even better if the `run-hooks` is accompanied with a FIXME explaining > that :-) Makes sense to me.
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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:09:53 -0500 > Cc: bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de, 68648 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > > >> On second thought, would it be okay to just call the mode hook where > >> we set buffer-read-only in after-find-file? > > > > It's probably an acceptable middle ground until someone goes through the > > trouble of sorting out how to make the code call `read-only-mode`. > > Even better if the `run-hooks` is accompanied with a FIXME explaining > > that :-) > > Makes sense to me. Now done on master, let's see what this breaks. Closing.
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