From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 19:31:54 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2024 00:31:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60495 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzH7-0008Du-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:31:54 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:35930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzH4-00088e-PB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:31:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzGv-0002pV-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:31:42 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2] helo=shark.2a.pl) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzGr-0000fJ-Cr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:31:40 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C711750826 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 01:31:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zl4n7Puc-g4E for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 01:43:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6EB10175080C for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 01:31:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:31:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.1; TUTORIAL.pl is outdated Content-Language: en-US From: Christopher Yeleighton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: none client-ip=213.77.90.2; envelope-from=giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl; helo=shark.2a.pl X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Action: C-h t C-s bar" Emacs tutorial in Polish (TUTORIAL.pl) says: /===\ Jeśli pracujesz w systemie z okienkowym trybem graficznym, jak X11 lub MS-Windows, to prawdopodobnie po lewej stronie okna Emacsa znajduje się prostokątny obszar nazywany po angielsku "scrollbar", a po polsku suwakiem. Za jego pomocą możesz przewijać tekst, używając do tego myszy. >> Spróbuj nacisnąć środkowy klawisz myszy u góry podświetlonego obszaru na suwaku. To powinno przewinąć tekst do miejsca określonego przez wysokość, na której nacisnąłeś klawisz myszy. >> Przesuń mysz do miejsca oddalonego od górnego końca suwaka o mniej więcej trzy linie i naciśnij lewy klawisz myszy kilka razy. \===/ In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8) Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101010 System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --sysconfdir=/etc --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib --with-tree-sitter --localstatedir=/var --with-cairo --disable-build-details --with-harfbuzz --with-libsystemd --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs/src=/usr/src/debug/emacs -flto=auto' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now -flto=auto'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: pl_PL.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (face-remap mhtml-mode css-mode color js c-ts-common cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs sgml-mode facemenu skeleton compile reveal noutline outline two-column kmacro conf-mode network-stream url-http url-gw url-auth eww xdg url-queue shr pixel-fill kinsoku url-file svg dom mm-url gnus nnheader range cus-theme eieio-custom xwidget url-handlers bookmark wid-browse tree-widget icon server locate bib-mode tabify w32-vars ebnf2ps ps-print ps-print-loaddefs lpr dos-vars tramp tramp-loaddefs trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-compat parse-time iso8601 format-spec ntlm hmac-md5 hex-util md4 nsm net-utils ldap kermit gravatar dns url-cache goto-addr gnutls eudc-vars dig dbus xml bug-reference ange-ftp cus-edit cus-start cus-load icons wid-edit cl-print debug backtrace display-line-numbers doc-view filenotify image-mode exif ps-mode sh-script rx smie treesit executable misearch multi-isearch dired-aux shell pcomplete comint ansi-osc ring find-func cl-extra shortdoc thingatpt help-fns radix-tree mailalias mailclient textsec uni-scripts idna-mapping ucs-normalize uni-confusable textsec-check help-mode pp shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs password-cache json map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars mailcap mule-util jka-compr info time-date subr-x apropos imenu man cl-loaddefs cl-lib ansi-color rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 477673 55379) (symbols 48 21685 7) (strings 32 94764 7660) (string-bytes 1 2586708) (vectors 16 62740) (vector-slots 8 974869 75941) (floats 8 548 259) (intervals 56 11863 1357) (buffers 984 50)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 19:48:33 2024 Received: (at 68599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2024 00:48:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzXE-0003Bx-SP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:48:33 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:50413 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rQzXB-0003Aj-0p for 68599@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:48:31 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7671175080C for <68599@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 01:48:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rUa20K6dT6HC for <68599@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:00:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 079CB1750836 for <68599@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 01:48:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:48:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68599: Acknowledgement (29.1; TUTORIAL.pl is outdated) Content-Language: en-US, pl To: 68599@debbugs.gnu.org References: From: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68599 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Here is an up-to-date translation of the corresponding fragment: W środowisku graficznym, takim jak X lub Microsoft Windows, po jednej stronie okna Emacs znajdzie się długi prostokątny obszar, nazywany prowadnicą przewijacza.  Można przewijać treść, stukając myszą w prowadnicę. Można również używać kółeczka myszy do przewijania, jeśli jest dostępne. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 20 02:14:27 2024 Received: (at 68599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2024 07:14:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5Yh-0004Zl-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:14:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5Yc-0004ZU-B1 for 68599@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:14:25 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5YM-0002ZJ-8w; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:14:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=QU6n5zFKSslHm1umV7dBk+8Y1Ask0PzoiKB1WcXSuoM=; b=mkpmz5lvIczNdz9PvsZM WkEVXIPhkZz2GnQ4nBgsoG4szqz4mqR9gS9RGILhScnwn3bagFM0zED/J/6TUb/ynUlA6UzXDaTG3 ANzFEY2UK4MRAy1cKNrglZmtUpcQlHnPA2E1AEAcYmAqRkBMKY1+Yt9fZGM2yeOGy8yrwRzQY/OH8 30vjgMrJx/2qysmSaUK5sxFn8qL99A0upOPMXb5a4Nbp3uuNFQ8YR9SpciRruKtvS8s9vZEcMDBE7 vN0pI9bz+bLpkshQCx6o833+/wq5LHj1Oyr8vKI9In5BWwVFV47Ke5rYsJbw0zAj18pMBz/H0MdkK tma11Gpx0pwu3w==; Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 09:13:44 +0200 Message-Id: <838r4kv5nb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:31:30 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68599: 29.1; TUTORIAL.pl is outdated References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68599 Cc: 68599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:31:30 +0000 > From: Christopher Yeleighton > > Action: C-h t C-s bar" > > Emacs tutorial in Polish (TUTORIAL.pl) says: > > /===\ > Jeśli pracujesz w systemie z okienkowym trybem graficznym, jak X11 > lub MS-Windows, to prawdopodobnie po lewej stronie okna Emacsa znajduje > się prostokątny obszar nazywany po angielsku "scrollbar", a po polsku > suwakiem. Za jego pomocą możesz przewijać tekst, używając do tego myszy. > > >> Spróbuj nacisnąć środkowy klawisz myszy u góry podświetlonego > obszaru na suwaku. To powinno przewinąć tekst do miejsca > określonego przez wysokość, na której nacisnąłeś klawisz myszy. > > >> Przesuń mysz do miejsca oddalonego od górnego końca suwaka o mniej > więcej trzy linie i naciśnij lewy klawisz myszy kilka razy. > \===/ Thanks. The English tutorial says: If you are using a graphical display, such as X or MS-Windows, there should be a tall rectangular area called a scroll bar on one side of the Emacs window. You can scroll the text by clicking the mouse in the scroll bar. If your mouse has a wheel button, you can also use this to scroll. I don't speak Polish. Could you (or someone else who speaks Polish) please suggest a translation of the above to Polish, so we could update the Polish translation of the tutorial? TIA. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 20 02:20:23 2024 Received: (at 68599-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2024 07:20:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60755 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5eQ-0007O9-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:20:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5eO-0007Nv-E4 for 68599-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:20:21 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rR5eF-00055v-UR; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:20:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=dFYB5y3Rz0oTEMv9gaQzZyQhjWkEUD1OgrAh7D7HGYY=; b=Iycl0U1Q4bEGg8024hkU T8Hi2ugGCFT8iGEJfS4j0TPEmQk+ZOY5fGyQNN8K7dJ3blegDKz6gZigxBZyohSPU13eoay39Zptw S2V3aFjoupuZ+ynS/F7O9dsi4FpDj6JyRRb+viIdUNSp5tmXlYcFNXSo9phyKlO0QFzFYR9vQheyA byskV5hpwP77qDi0y2bW+zT8mvHPNs+K3P3OwBLMl7NvCYpvhKTM5MLyo6imYv2mnX0Km7GNk4j4A og/O0HV84TuR28dHCaWFuGlSgEv2eykSZM2otMitD868jcLIgXTZr12yVtJoNyky9WG2lQD1892cH j5qKyff7R1BYJQ==; Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 09:19:51 +0200 Message-Id: <837ck4v5d4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Christopher Yeleighton In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:48:18 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68599: Acknowledgement (29.1; TUTORIAL.pl is outdated) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68599-done Cc: 68599-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 00:48:18 +0000 > From: Christopher Yeleighton > > Here is an up-to-date translation of the corresponding fragment: > > W środowisku graficznym, takim jak X lub Microsoft Windows, po jednej > stronie okna Emacs znajdzie się długi prostokątny obszar, nazywany > prowadnicą przewijacza.  Można przewijać treść, stukając myszą w prowadnicę. > > Można również używać kółeczka myszy do przewijania, jeśli jest dostępne. 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