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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:106c:3701:b5d0:cc60]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e9-20020aa798c9000000b006d9a13b491csm3997710pfm.212.2024.01.10.14.56.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 Message-ID: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::434; envelope-from=manphiz@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x434.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust accordingly. 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114)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Fix-typo-in-lispref-Buffer-Type-section.patch >From 5f5fe1888791aafc749b6655519a487e44014679 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 02:29:39 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 1/6] Fix typo in lispref "Buffer Type" section * doc/lispref/objects.texi (Buffer Type): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/objects.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/objects.texi b/doc/lispref/objects.texi index 111beb5e5b0..6ee3f414abb 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/objects.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/objects.texi @@ -1573,7 +1573,7 @@ editing. (@pxref{Files}) so they can be edited, but some are used for other purposes. Most buffers are also meant to be seen by the user, and therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a designated position called @dfn{point} (@pxref{Positions}); most editing commands act on the contents of the current buffer in the neighborhood of point. At any time, one buffer is the @dfn{current -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0002-Fix-typo-in-lispref-String-Basics-section.patch >From 2bcfb5415dcc54c78a93761239d4fb9fc9b09901 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 10:52:26 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 2/6] Fix typo in lispref "String Basics" section * doc/lispref/strings.texi (String Basics): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/strings.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/strings.texi b/doc/lispref/strings.texi index 7097de49064..4fe94f78cba 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/strings.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/strings.texi @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ integer is a character or not is determined only by how it is used. Emacs. A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and cannot be altered once it is created (@pxref{Sequences Arrays Vectors}). Unlike in C, Emacs Lisp strings are @emph{not} terminated by a distinguished character code. -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0003-Fix-typo-in-lispref-Creating-Strings-section.patch >From b15a219495933e5c5cb5031daf69ba8fad0afb61 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 11:26:13 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 3/6] Fix typo in lispref "Creating Strings" section * doc/lispref/strings.texi (Creating Strings): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/strings.texi | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/strings.texi b/doc/lispref/strings.texi index 4fe94f78cba..02c266c6b1a 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/strings.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/strings.texi @@ -282,7 +282,7 @@ an error. To obtain a string that you can safely mutate, use @code{copy-sequence} on the result. For information about other concatenation functions, see the -description of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, +descriptions of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, @code{vconcat} in @ref{Vector Functions}, and @code{append} in @ref{Building Lists}. For concatenating individual command-line arguments into a string to be used as a shell command, see @ref{Shell Arguments, @@ -366,7 +366,7 @@ three previous examples are rarely relevant: @result{} nil @end example -Somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain +A somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain ``non-greedy'' values of @var{separators} that can prefer empty matches over non-empty matches. Again, such values rarely occur in practice: -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0004-Wrap-pxref-of-Abbrevs-in-parentheses.patch >From fd8ce85a531be327bc0f5b41adfee078f608d251 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 12:35:39 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 4/6] Wrap @pxref of Abbrevs in parentheses * doc/lispref/symbols.texi (Shorthands): Wrap `@pxref{Abbrevs}' in parentheses. --- doc/lispref/symbols.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/symbols.texi b/doc/lispref/symbols.texi index 6fe4189901a..367bd195f16 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/symbols.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/symbols.texi @@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ name} (@pxref{Symbol Components}). It is useful to think of shorthands as @emph{abbreviating} the full names of intended symbols. Despite this, do not confuse shorthands with the -Abbrev system @pxref{Abbrevs}. +Abbrev system (@pxref{Abbrevs}). @cindex namespace etiquette Shorthands make Emacs Lisp's @dfn{namespacing etiquette} easier to work -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0005-Fix-count-of-no-op-functions.patch >From 454ed28e302493d678d2306b908c9542a8491daa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:30 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 5/6] Fix count of no-op functions It looks like there are actually three kinds of no-op functions. * doc/lispref/functions.texi (Calling Functions): Fix count and plural of no-op functions. --- doc/lispref/functions.texi | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/functions.texi b/doc/lispref/functions.texi index 29e9f04a076..6c6f1e25917 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/functions.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/functions.texi @@ -982,8 +982,8 @@ lists) and call them using @code{funcall} or @code{apply}. Functions that accept function arguments are often called @dfn{functionals}. Sometimes, when you call a functional, it is useful to supply a no-op -function as the argument. Here are two different kinds of no-op -function: +function as the argument. Here are three different kinds of no-op +functions: @defun identity argument This function returns @var{argument} and has no side effects. -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0006-Fix-unmatched-parentheses.patch >From 670612720f281fa8ada32626433ac209bba0de6b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 00:59:03 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 6/6] Fix unmatched parentheses * doc/lispref/debugging.texi (Syntax Errors): Fix unmatched parentheses. --- doc/lispref/debugging.texi | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi index 774fcaf68bf..bb31906753b 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi @@ -926,7 +926,7 @@ parenthesis or missing open parenthesis, but does not say where the missing parenthesis belongs. How, then, to find what to change? If the problem is not simply an imbalance of parentheses, a useful -technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}, @pxref{Moving by +technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}), @pxref{Moving by Defuns,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}) at the beginning of each defun, and see if it goes to the place where that defun appears to end. If it does not, there is a problem in that defun. @@ -949,7 +949,7 @@ find the mismatch.) The first step is to find the defun that is unbalanced. If there is an excess open parenthesis, the way to do this is to go to the end of -the file and type @kbd{C-u C-M-u} (@code{backward-up-list}, +the file and type @kbd{C-u C-M-u} (@code{backward-up-list}), @pxref{Moving by Parens,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}). This will move you to the beginning of the first defun that is unbalanced. @@ -957,7 +957,7 @@ move you to the beginning of the first defun that is unbalanced. way to be sure of this except by studying the program, but often the existing indentation is a clue to where the parentheses should have been. The easiest way to use this clue is to reindent with @kbd{C-M-q} -(@code{indent-pp-sexp}, @pxref{Multi-line Indent,,,emacs, The GNU +(@code{indent-pp-sexp}), @pxref{Multi-line Indent,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}) and see what moves. @strong{But don't do this yet!} Keep reading, first. -- 2.39.2 --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Xiyue Deng Subject: bug#68375: closed (Re: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes) Message-ID: References: <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 68375 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:47:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1704970022-28962-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1704970022-28962-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 68375@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 68375: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D68375 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1704970022-28962-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 68375-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 10:46:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsaN-0007Wl-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:46:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsaM-0007WW-9k for 68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:46:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNsaJ-0003SL-9K; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:46:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7Juold9UURxbcEUVF+q+ERlAfMYKHS4HoNZLNi3AOiU=; b=Df2HN7dqvR0m OXyXq3czmjKqBsC10D+bDYStV8tzv7DiNEFDTyPy1UDrhCpmKjzJIAjVZMl6R0vZRuYJpp5mbhpl/ 7k0+F1Q9OkJTbB3ENVa2MfwJviJNG7T/iCCctv1uxTm8zbzuGT4PNl7sxG4cvYptHX1V/HvZ4S18M VAqR0oWCDfBPxqqnhFQTDoEslGQRjB750oM5aO7gfGau+WT2m0+AZzuwvJEshz/4hwHXUOoKHRASb RhuO+ZRxGnGbZ2bHBhq1RJWrGkdAD7sJ2iuDg7XPOEqRIarpj09hZULnJmvHnqsnTIyE41aDhTrqE SagoZHvjFu4hJF7Vcy9baQ==; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Message-Id: <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68375-done Cc: 68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 > > Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes > for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. > Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust > accordingly. Thanks. See below. > --- a/doc/lispref/objects.texi > +++ b/doc/lispref/objects.texi > @@ -1573,7 +1573,7 @@ editing. > (@pxref{Files}) so they can be edited, but some are used for other > purposes. Most buffers are also meant to be seen by the user, and > therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But > -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a This is not a typo: the wording here is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of > -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > For information about other concatenation functions, see the > -description of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, > +descriptions of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, There's nothing wrong with using singular here, so I didn't install this part. > * doc/lispref/symbols.texi (Shorthands): Wrap `@pxref{Abbrevs}' in > parentheses. I installed this part. > >From 454ed28e302493d678d2306b908c9542a8491daa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Xiyue Deng > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:30 -0800 > Subject: [PATCH 5/6] Fix count of no-op functions > > It looks like there are actually three kinds of no-op functions. > > * doc/lispref/functions.texi (Calling Functions): Fix count and > plural of no-op functions. I installed this part as well. > * doc/lispref/debugging.texi (Syntax Errors): Fix unmatched > parentheses. I didn't install this part, because there's nothing wrong with parentheses here. Using @pxref as below: > If the problem is not simply an imbalance of parentheses, a useful > -technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}, @pxref{Moving by > +technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}), @pxref{Moving by > Defuns,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}) at the beginning of each defun, is perfectly correct. So I didn't install this part. Please note that with this contribution we've exhausted the amount of changes we can accept from you without a copyright assignment. Would you like to start the legal paperwork of assigning to the FSF the copyright for your future contributions? If so, I will send you the form to fill and the instructions to email the filled form. 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114)) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Fix-typo-in-lispref-Buffer-Type-section.patch >From 5f5fe1888791aafc749b6655519a487e44014679 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 02:29:39 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 1/6] Fix typo in lispref "Buffer Type" section * doc/lispref/objects.texi (Buffer Type): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/objects.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/objects.texi b/doc/lispref/objects.texi index 111beb5e5b0..6ee3f414abb 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/objects.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/objects.texi @@ -1573,7 +1573,7 @@ editing. (@pxref{Files}) so they can be edited, but some are used for other purposes. Most buffers are also meant to be seen by the user, and therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a designated position called @dfn{point} (@pxref{Positions}); most editing commands act on the contents of the current buffer in the neighborhood of point. At any time, one buffer is the @dfn{current -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0002-Fix-typo-in-lispref-String-Basics-section.patch >From 2bcfb5415dcc54c78a93761239d4fb9fc9b09901 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 10:52:26 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 2/6] Fix typo in lispref "String Basics" section * doc/lispref/strings.texi (String Basics): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/strings.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/strings.texi b/doc/lispref/strings.texi index 7097de49064..4fe94f78cba 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/strings.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/strings.texi @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ integer is a character or not is determined only by how it is used. Emacs. A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and cannot be altered once it is created (@pxref{Sequences Arrays Vectors}). Unlike in C, Emacs Lisp strings are @emph{not} terminated by a distinguished character code. -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0003-Fix-typo-in-lispref-Creating-Strings-section.patch >From b15a219495933e5c5cb5031daf69ba8fad0afb61 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 11:26:13 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 3/6] Fix typo in lispref "Creating Strings" section * doc/lispref/strings.texi (Creating Strings): Fix typo. --- doc/lispref/strings.texi | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/strings.texi b/doc/lispref/strings.texi index 4fe94f78cba..02c266c6b1a 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/strings.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/strings.texi @@ -282,7 +282,7 @@ an error. To obtain a string that you can safely mutate, use @code{copy-sequence} on the result. For information about other concatenation functions, see the -description of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, +descriptions of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, @code{vconcat} in @ref{Vector Functions}, and @code{append} in @ref{Building Lists}. For concatenating individual command-line arguments into a string to be used as a shell command, see @ref{Shell Arguments, @@ -366,7 +366,7 @@ three previous examples are rarely relevant: @result{} nil @end example -Somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain +A somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain ``non-greedy'' values of @var{separators} that can prefer empty matches over non-empty matches. Again, such values rarely occur in practice: -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0004-Wrap-pxref-of-Abbrevs-in-parentheses.patch >From fd8ce85a531be327bc0f5b41adfee078f608d251 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 12:35:39 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 4/6] Wrap @pxref of Abbrevs in parentheses * doc/lispref/symbols.texi (Shorthands): Wrap `@pxref{Abbrevs}' in parentheses. --- doc/lispref/symbols.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/symbols.texi b/doc/lispref/symbols.texi index 6fe4189901a..367bd195f16 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/symbols.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/symbols.texi @@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ name} (@pxref{Symbol Components}). It is useful to think of shorthands as @emph{abbreviating} the full names of intended symbols. Despite this, do not confuse shorthands with the -Abbrev system @pxref{Abbrevs}. +Abbrev system (@pxref{Abbrevs}). @cindex namespace etiquette Shorthands make Emacs Lisp's @dfn{namespacing etiquette} easier to work -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0005-Fix-count-of-no-op-functions.patch >From 454ed28e302493d678d2306b908c9542a8491daa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:30 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 5/6] Fix count of no-op functions It looks like there are actually three kinds of no-op functions. * doc/lispref/functions.texi (Calling Functions): Fix count and plural of no-op functions. --- doc/lispref/functions.texi | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/functions.texi b/doc/lispref/functions.texi index 29e9f04a076..6c6f1e25917 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/functions.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/functions.texi @@ -982,8 +982,8 @@ lists) and call them using @code{funcall} or @code{apply}. Functions that accept function arguments are often called @dfn{functionals}. Sometimes, when you call a functional, it is useful to supply a no-op -function as the argument. Here are two different kinds of no-op -function: +function as the argument. Here are three different kinds of no-op +functions: @defun identity argument This function returns @var{argument} and has no side effects. -- 2.39.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0006-Fix-unmatched-parentheses.patch >From 670612720f281fa8ada32626433ac209bba0de6b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 00:59:03 -0800 Subject: [PATCH 6/6] Fix unmatched parentheses * doc/lispref/debugging.texi (Syntax Errors): Fix unmatched parentheses. --- doc/lispref/debugging.texi | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi index 774fcaf68bf..bb31906753b 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi @@ -926,7 +926,7 @@ parenthesis or missing open parenthesis, but does not say where the missing parenthesis belongs. How, then, to find what to change? If the problem is not simply an imbalance of parentheses, a useful -technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}, @pxref{Moving by +technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}), @pxref{Moving by Defuns,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}) at the beginning of each defun, and see if it goes to the place where that defun appears to end. If it does not, there is a problem in that defun. @@ -949,7 +949,7 @@ find the mismatch.) The first step is to find the defun that is unbalanced. If there is an excess open parenthesis, the way to do this is to go to the end of -the file and type @kbd{C-u C-M-u} (@code{backward-up-list}, +the file and type @kbd{C-u C-M-u} (@code{backward-up-list}), @pxref{Moving by Parens,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}). This will move you to the beginning of the first defun that is unbalanced. @@ -957,7 +957,7 @@ move you to the beginning of the first defun that is unbalanced. way to be sure of this except by studying the program, but often the existing indentation is a clue to where the parentheses should have been. 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See below. [...] >> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > > The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which > is correct English. So I didn't install this part. You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text correct English. I thought I'd save you some work by installing the patch myself, which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of emacs-29 (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it and install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. 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See below. > [...] >>> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >>> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >>> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >> >> The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which >> is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > > You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text > correct English. I thought I'd save you some work by installing the > patch myself, which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of > emacs-29 (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it > and install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. I went ahead and reverted the change on master and installed it on emacs-29 (with bug number). Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498354013087 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 14:32:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNw6W-0003P1-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:32:20 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:51401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNw6R-0003Ok-CE for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:32:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1704983531; x=1705588331; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=O6mNKyWWT7f4QGMXWVv30VXCjgeHuF9E0f9OH1suzSs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Date; b=XCRQHkXlAO4GuEQ9V4bXQ5mwbjvdAzilRD2JhR3eegntLK/xbSSBVNLA6Vq/E7T4 sVG2lvCdYq4AeoHY8aleh08Qi7qdI234/7FBUstm/0XS0VWvioBkbFBOVYS0xBV9g ScWcIDlr7bTlAwzafB1f/w+kOsTqCNurxvDv4YbTqW7b+YHoV2YJehA/aGYrBQoxU ht4r9Wl74O+Xhme1uEkVF+cUSSyHdvPxFTh6nNQm6TgbAMVu68gGUj5fU5CV/+J9B gk4EbomiW83KH3sOZ/3CRhlL/b12cZKUgOJh/8AijDEvvwDSGUdCrAU7W4oUabt9H 6cO5/OpTeoq7uTO/KQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfs2 ([94.134.196.40]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N9dwj-1r96fm0wjd-015WlN; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:32:11 +0100 From: Stephen Berman In-Reply-To: <87h6jkrlwr.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:21:08 +0100") References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <87h6jkrlwr.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:32:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87cyu8rled.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:afDTII8DHgdnKDAAg/UUwM0ABo7eQYmRAFKWbPKsPn8jlcVwCK3 dmII0ovV9WdEQBVCBsHpt4/kkwY7pEq3dvNtjWtwUG5uHi+LY2s1mpX7kR9LDRXpX1YiZ5a VpUygtCRCtBxcon50+YygWEXTHQK0jNR89Kw5bacK6w0NciJgpXnopx0GzaSMazYJs+Vkby ort8gGMrh3PHqgAlFx00A== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:T5CJ2E+zFHY=;Es7fzcIGAXGg7f4s6m9PMolwy+6 PImmFhJoRQhCchD13AnFqqS6QhNmbEjtjG6WWJDs6RPH7HWZDulTYB3FEi4swdoUp3m2oKy4q EwJCnRxK/BKI5hwL4Rk/MvP9eKarhkaWD6M02Nwvny8qARM+5dGmXGqqrieSUxU123qksI0iL NP7yybVJhahoMEpx9NVKYoV+SmzUAQnK7stW6GB6arWI5i5tXtRZmKqBat6lrnqSHsPTTEmv4 4muhTsP8MBKs2gIJCprzekru2qeb+JjTmB3QXNjCcG/fJrAzywDer5qbkbNhmr31Su/XchmMD MtshJrrw+v9eSVXTq02CVZD7WMCGociD6/sGI6XmxlNmsMw86r82q9SRrR5DBn30bBcxZfA6c QP86qrgNDyY4NOdRfsl3jKZd+kVeNTClRappLS32erIdtuygOZ0mKXzmLllRCOsLk2MpA7oab C3oDj4RgCR8q5hMR8LGBAqEput9NtJMUNXeAsMAL84kavlQDmn5evptvCmb3sVjTRF/Rx7KGP 07t7C9Df8axsip6yE5cw4agE0crYDx8ge9UzVU1p4ANaPU0ItneSFvjhEa+Zicax18iGX1v35 bktUh0kMcY2KmiWSLVQOzOOlXbylEWsIwetdALNJd/ucwYyVKDFXoqS9+22FcF6rJDvhqKRyK Jm2tCZh8JZNPBnvyp+GrpNqDeQD+oo4ZOvYRWPJv2XRyj3LRLu5HJSO4ptNTx6Sl51C7WiU4c CStLwjTOfJmqXhzJpcA//8DXuet5d4ag8cpPnOBkEWbuLEYQesdTfKe7fdvM778hxiK4dYpjD r1HGsWgxYOWtQ/KQaqoUdX/Qm7TELYnsg40al2DT40+dqwkR+9UDNsAmxiH7nYYDJUWulBq+K uKZy7M2BARTrlzyk2fWh248KhwqNKhzbcQ+7kwUojqmtVode2O7XRmXaF8f19DMZw1oBDm9yQ j483CuVsAoTPeLwi9h5ZVi1UvTM= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:21:08 +0100 Stephen Berman = wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 Stephen Berman wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >>>> From: Xiyue Deng >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 >>>>=20 >>>> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fix= es >>>> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. >>>> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust >>>> accordingly. >>> >>> Thanks. See below. >> [...] >>>> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >>>> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >>>> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >>> >>> The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which >>> is correct English. So I didn't install this part. >> >> You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text >> correct English. I thought I'd save you some work by installing the >> patch myself, which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of >> emacs-29 (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it >> and install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. > > I went ahead and reverted the change on master and installed it on > emacs-29 (with bug number). ... but without the "Copyright-paperwork-exempt: yes" cookie =F0=9F=98=95. = Should I revert again? (This time I will not act without explicit permission.) Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498472025511 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 14:52:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59172 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwPY-0006dP-Bt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:52:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46996) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwPW-0006dC-Fl for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:51:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwPT-0000my-GV; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:51:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RPzwAKK6hqedcvIqPR/35Gg/0fi37UAIgsWn8A9Xhf8=; b=G0SQfoTWuY7Z CXCatsQmjPwyVA99iyNaIeBjwXHXYuof8+UsPKgDyYzYyUoPJShqeJT8K/3y0dC/FIaOh/G0DEYUY mjT48aKkCJsvFITRcr7pAOf6UslB1Tqnf8oggG1c8bdih0FqHbVJzxTC0VdiXExyFq3rzdpM/UejS gvVhN/IFZax11DISVLAYIKHmdkNPWjdotLHMCVZNrOaAbU+xTGo4by4Xcwf+V2pGhtbY9IJ/KzfVJ R8wz/11WWljshiSe2lxG6vOHXd/a4POOxQCX5kESTOx5Gxr/06vsO4hDHy79ehGKcijaDacoNYFXv /pTskrQrv7bUWbH7i9ZozA==; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:51:39 +0200 Message-Id: <83il3zly84.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Xiyue Deng > >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 > >> > >> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes > >> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. > >> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust > >> accordingly. > > > > Thanks. See below. > [...] > >> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of > >> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > >> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > > > > The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which > > is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > > You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text > correct English. Oops. > I thought I'd save you some work by installing the patch myself, > which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of emacs-29 > (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it and > install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. You could have simply cherry-picked it to emacs-29. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498500928523 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 14:56:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwUD-0007Pz-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:56:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwU7-0007Pt-Td for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:56:47 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwU5-00031M-0k; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:56:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=HQr3hS14TA0ABCssnsZ3XL79mTs9Y1SxNx5mZAk1l0M=; b=BnzgXPM5Fih9uK7d+YNu L1Tj2aY9B3uLi5MfGG59dzwcYkZ62em2/6ae3OpgBijj5lDs/096XTAnCAO2no/obMqTvqNa5J4dg zLiCfwqKOJc8I8hAQJjR1VJO08VZoGR2Kx0R7YAWD52Hmj2/f9klvDuxWdBjjKKI8pNjuvRDJYrb8 ezLtQLTZXvnsk827Z+Llk3yPvIMIrx510h3ygHvn8tOfX3888ZON6IoGBalC4YdlICyPl44nFPIoO 4UzT1zmTYETHcB1s6cclyrz2zBYln7Fpar2Cf12gsYZHffjGmFqBTg8L5qAhqKMWVQwa1uabJMurE x23a+Yt4ExoXPQ==; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:56:13 +0200 Message-Id: <83h6jjly0i.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87cyu8rled.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:32:10 +0100) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <87h6jkrlwr.fsf@gmx.net> <87cyu8rled.fsf@gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:32:10 +0100 > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:21:08 +0100 Stephen Berman wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 Stephen Berman wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > >>>> From: Xiyue Deng > >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 > >>>> > >>>> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes > >>>> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. > >>>> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust > >>>> accordingly. > >>> > >>> Thanks. See below. > >> [...] > >>>> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of > >>>> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > >>>> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > >>> > >>> The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which > >>> is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > >> > >> You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text > >> correct English. I thought I'd save you some work by installing the > >> patch myself, which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of > >> emacs-29 (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it > >> and install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. > > > > I went ahead and reverted the change on master and installed it on > > emacs-29 (with bug number). > > ... but without the "Copyright-paperwork-exempt: yes" cookie 😕. Should > I revert again? (This time I will not act without explicit permission.) It's too late, since reverting a change doesn't remove it from Git history. I hope Xiyue Deng will assign the copyright, which will then cover this blunder. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498633618970 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 15:18:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwpc-0004vu-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:18:56 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:38343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwpa-0004ve-4q for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:18:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1704986329; x=1705591129; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=fn06dAZDAQMwNEPN1iOXkl+4FgKsAWJu0iXk9svErtA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Date; b=lIMmlS5XNCfYviVc8CVtd6vf+fcfIsbw2Xh0c0rZ8UXcezBpBUQQkaSd57Qt30ud 79+ZBKCSgz3KokKT2+Y+3MaZbPj5Kukx0Vcvx7rcNjuPQ12DxH9Bza7v5CwedhMAL A9dXArKMpdv7WhVZfYaknkqZ7SZRiKPzYW4qnfEOD5yCiHUtasOKljbM0AZb0W3Kn bABBG8qlvUcOxIfl2iicWUccl5umrRGrdK1iwBfx1djTr/0w8Zp8XVpJB/XmV/Ugt 60JUgk7Z/V2FzbGeO3LwDS5+qiIzENjmcCI3WaB4m5+RThy2mYi5PWpTspDVkYmTp g9r2zqGhy4Z0CvItBQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfs2 ([94.134.196.40]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MWAOW-1re1Vj2enC-00XYml; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:49 +0100 From: Stephen Berman In-Reply-To: <83il3zly84.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:51:39 +0200") References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <83il3zly84.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: <8734v3sxt3.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EDXknHfxii/9Pqb1iwE2bloBjdKQc/rXJ38RQtdZJFY9OJ3rHeI TQPnKYlu9Y5fXZcZmYvWMqfoyoeZkt98RFkTwQvrJe5tBsJZA2y7u9o20aa1tO4OF3AfJ3M Jul+XcxCb+khhcj+VhXKg1UbhoV2w0ocYlv8d2xRrx9LbHkeSEIy6Gla00FabJ82GShg69b cdwjNYogs5jxHOmHCr8Vw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Gy36oVoq1gw=;HrzseePk5m5y2a67hgtFmWlevN8 ZLvXlhrXqAPq8eUzhO+X9R2C/lbR+qlbQDi9EjyGFPbCG/+vlHMAFNTI6kZZi4ihz63ZXh56S vDCBtsjE8CxaUuWpxFRxJLsC/kZBtCR37c6vhdFdiqNdSuYS2Roo3ku3EI6ERaCzRw+bZncU/ R2cR65NDt+FptjFMgmxaTCTd/dsIGKCbEkJ1jYH8eYwpLuMn+xCPfzahFR25JgBTY9t+mAY6I gFtc0SHQAA7I34GQJxdtj4po19XIbhM3CXVG1L8zJckV8aLuAB/9NDVwP3kiKUl81ks4bMagv l/y+p80JeBJgLFU3IkVb9RhaSuSHCizQs7NwRp8TBj25/QY11sAYfQtRApius+AWebSbGkw6W QPQEvDvh4v+K9g4RZYYDuKQqrxXnfDkiAqes9GV0s9uHU7jnRm03DoiZwHea9xyo5x/NS6Mg6 7d7353zSFgrEHZEkKjbgErLRXonpIE/nAXUAQCjfgDJ2ShN5Ov54e7wgDgr9D+4rAgtPLlT1o uEIle86fZsbSFHOU1V0iuErGiyEvlgS49B6PmlpGq0q3R7EeIb2iGpLrMYHQZAO0yF6BW6CwG yfgfACM9hLoyhRu5izjhLqw14kExjnjovPm//F1rxv0o3N/bghS/WHSMx7StzDTlzAX6uyx+K /eV9RE17spJPWzxjsN58V+2JHcPFmwhuw2hme3bVZkEbEQA9TPGOb7yU90ILLrlE5kJu2ypya 23g0Z2Br6ho3BxYqJQGBKVqcQZcpDP/fM50Cn//3pEGbYNHCIKd4XfIgILeUxt4oIHS6xEfzC Go9geZBz/hYtnOY6L85d9F8ugEZLukvKe5Ne0p6kooNqK88Kpj8d3SDECwa8X65fgB2irD2zJ Y8Pb14e3Nc/RNKnz3aWBCzeu4ZMJKLZovYjr6aFhdXa14aLviqrheshQNC0NgTT85mXv8aUCH cdVGTQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:51:39 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 >> >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> >> From: Xiyue Deng >> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 >> >> >> >> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation f= ixes >> >> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. >> >> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust >> >> accordingly. >> > >> > Thanks. See below. >> [...] >> >> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >> >> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >> >> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed an= d >> > >> > The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", whic= h >> > is correct English. So I didn't install this part. >> >> You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text >> correct English. > > Oops. > >> I thought I'd save you some work by installing the patch myself, >> which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of emacs-29 >> (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it and >> install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. > > You could have simply cherry-picked it to emacs-29. Is it possible to do that with VC? I didn't find the term in the source code, only in admin/notes/git-workflow, which only shows the git command (and says to "add 'Backport:' to the commit string", which is another attention block I could well stumble over...). Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498634719021 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 15:19:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwpm-0004wi-ID for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:52101) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNwpk-0004w7-FT for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:19:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1704986340; x=1705591140; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=24tp2G1hpqIv9A3oqiW0/GBM/NeTOgqNNwBZk3wCy14=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Date; b=CbQAYEddij3B3fzcK87qm4FycC1FaW6SjEVNABsuPsf2wCI2ZQovToP5rPMNy5Gs GfjTxG+mOA5d2binr7d9rXZPmgKeF5jwXMaesflqdHNAP76pI20gPrGcjDLzlt6yR RuczGLGYr0beS0ybroZuO97DDYYtdhTvSxjffLaqo/ReU6zHEC6TP9yKC0b7ePsQh 7IirAqjqR35obA1yR7iFttskxx/siyKVwjnFajZFMV19XOa/J/ibJtLnevXZ7+ebB MgR5z4redtERAmsAv+3Wt4bqEvU4ZAKZ4m5SOvQt/tvua8SBLl2q2dVpzNVGZNZua H5prgVA3Mpypu4/lMQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfs2 ([94.134.196.40]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MIdeR-1rKyHp1Hvh-00Ec2I; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:19:00 +0100 From: Stephen Berman In-Reply-To: <83h6jjly0i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:56:13 +0200") References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <87h6jkrlwr.fsf@gmx.net> <87cyu8rled.fsf@gmx.net> <83h6jjly0i.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:59 +0100 Message-ID: <871qansxss.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:R6rDK9zD+Tdd0u3mVMpIxDTMJnuVuQKCYcwnHCr7rCX3UpByDYZ +Im8qeYprASkrwFcLF4Bu6dBcRs3KbNwzpj2gas5Tz3YjlLbIU9pOSNSgfCdcBpIA+tXX6Z H053xfDR1lPajARQc5o5w2HSCXFmX/bhlCmISrg/V64jIEqxcd5JkmEp0jJOQNtvJFjNEBj TxMo2ON1o6vdXhssRdOqA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:DPrVBD4AxwQ=;SVaAh2IaQ78/5utVb7bpIfjxzYx 8NY61zU0DP1VufPTvJYpIry9qaIajPROLl7uTa5NPXSvIN6ym3LKyR1FfSA4ng/OMHwssMSzn +0HBPrl7Ib2ahqfGTH9x0BDYfEX1hN/XVinDmwBfmrbPVQm9ozmD3h5viDn4pBY5Y7w7L6CK+ imeuGevrG4COOlqXq3lmKKguBIbEjdm+RBVh8jioSzWYpD7SFEC/0WN/elE0SpsaLBHlsP4N+ T1UWzfuD9bRhxht9L9UEKY9EdXnrQUDAp+fT1nO8QhWjD3jceEfFkbvfRVVKNNfnvbMK/TcKl 7DcJA3vjI3qNh6pL/+mcR1cVgOIYUKbcaQb087iQyHRMv//TGd/EwGf2R8+Fg5bmN3mT7sIO+ 3/96EOdlCcsRAJwczSZPycfziFCBynPBU5r6G5jz5F6KkdlqQz3sFLL3mKrLFS36Miucqia2J HdglqAIAuSmb2d1A4GbsEpS8A9ESGW+83Zg5JnsKwYzEhgPUFJbCo1Fumju444Szp/zMT4vXb 1+OEcxm5WI22j9ARfNUyE9jKEDqxc8bSasGf9vpDslmuC85mzl9pdyOddgJvAofFN4Ce8Q+j4 pG22fyi2dQYEW00mhb3DjytHTImUW+tI4kzLX+Iwo1LNyYM307Yh0OXjiOXxRaukSsbVr+ms8 vcvvMO7MA9QJFSD1z+VbZWuPlG+s5dbW6GDOi9Fb9Bvfm//YxyhpCISLhHKLxD7k9LGT8Xdux kiSF8hMs4kyy7KPKYZX5hPBUb4JlNAcf6nqFvf5Sey0d71MFnGM2+OR60T7rk5fcaWN8L9YDQ vqlDHgZOMDvLCQOhh69ekxmbuZj1QEUlB6j6NiFtAPtLb25VkpzabUS3khJrDOyfq458fX16x 9BDjb3sJpQ5DIhZNBb5z5lsy0doVfG6c04clwXarDMAbLX2VG7x5wWjwm31fyj6b/lx948RW6 TaZP4gLkD0ef52tI8SsL74yalwQ= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:56:13 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:32:10 +0100 >>=20 >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:21:08 +0100 Stephen Berman wrote: >>=20 >> > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 Stephen Berman wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> >> >>>> From: Xiyue Deng >> >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 >> >>>>=20 >> >>>> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation = fixes >> >>>> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. >> >>>> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust >> >>>> accordingly. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks. See below. >> >> [...] >> >>>> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >> >>>> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >> >>>> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed a= nd >> >>> >> >>> The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", whi= ch >> >>> is correct English. So I didn't install this part. >> >> >> >> You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text >> >> correct English. I thought I'd save you some work by installing the >> >> patch myself, which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of >> >> emacs-29 (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it >> >> and install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. >> > >> > I went ahead and reverted the change on master and installed it on >> > emacs-29 (with bug number). >>=20 >> ... but without the "Copyright-paperwork-exempt: yes" cookie =F0=9F=98= =95. Should >> I revert again? (This time I will not act without explicit permission.) > > It's too late, since reverting a change doesn't remove it from Git > history. > > I hope Xiyue Deng will assign the copyright, which will then cover > this blunder. I hope so too. Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170498723230870 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 15:33:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNx43-00081o-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:33:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNx41-00081X-QZ for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:33:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNx3y-00028S-HJ; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:33:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QbR7sSe++JpimXVsxVB0gONBMSSmLnbxJcvcp9GC0Os=; b=eapjbyViSFs/ Gq5lY/233Vo5hERGT+V2zF+dMhs/ksIQXvbiVRCIlB8VywRBG75+zPSToK3in/yaJYCjXErh7oOEa MpcdCjkC0WmeO4J0D/iH/4sno5C/U8rrmf0SPyW93NkNG22XxrWMoklq7kWFJ3qQFCht6+EUs9oES mAJ/nbqBvQRTSQsBB5+HplL2bUD2VtdjrBmSXzmsDakK0k0Fv7lVFaYIiW99W7YSeBFkHUypQn/vX sRt8XsYlDfJ2JNsqfEWcYJKkjah6n82tmaiHXtREz1jizIu98QO5+Ds4+qzU4x9zwPt2+kANi+Iro b+Z3szcC5PhQQRN3aqC7Ag==; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:33:17 +0200 Message-Id: <83cyu7lwaq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8734v3sxt3.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:48 +0100) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <83il3zly84.fsf@gnu.org> <8734v3sxt3.fsf@gmx.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:48 +0100 > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:51:39 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Stephen Berman > >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > >> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 14:44:35 +0100 > >> > >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > >> >> From: Xiyue Deng > >> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 > >> >> > >> >> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes > >> >> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. > >> >> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust > >> >> accordingly. > >> > > >> > Thanks. See below. > >> [...] > >> >> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of > >> >> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > >> >> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > >> > > >> > The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which > >> > is correct English. So I didn't install this part. > >> > >> You misread the patch, it changes "a" to "an", which makes the text > >> correct English. > > > > Oops. > > > >> I thought I'd save you some work by installing the patch myself, > >> which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of emacs-29 > >> (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it and > >> install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. > > > > You could have simply cherry-picked it to emacs-29. > > Is it possible to do that with VC? No, not that I know of. > I didn't find the term in the source code, only in > admin/notes/git-workflow, which only shows the git command (and says > to "add 'Backport:' to the commit string", which is another > attention block I could well stumble over...). If you cherry-pick with the -x option, gitmerge.el will recognize the cherry-picks automatically, and there's no need for the "backport" indication. 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Should I revert it and >> >> install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. >> > >> > You could have simply cherry-picked it to emacs-29. >> >> Is it possible to do that with VC? > > No, not that I know of. Pity. >> I didn't find the term in the source code, only in >> admin/notes/git-workflow, which only shows the git command (and says >> to "add 'Backport:' to the commit string", which is another >> attention block I could well stumble over...). > > If you cherry-pick with the -x option, gitmerge.el will recognize the > cherry-picks automatically, and there's no need for the "backport" > indication. Ah, ok. But then shouldn't that directive be removed from the text, since the example invocation has the -x option? Anyway, hopefully I'll be attentive enough in future to avoid needing to cherry-pick a commit due to mistakenly installing a change to the wrong branch. Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170499160325356 (code B ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 16:46:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33711 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNyCY-0006aY-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:46:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNyCW-0006V6-19 for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:46:41 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rNyCR-0003XZ-Vy; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:46:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HjORP4i/ONgkYRbllsU/BVUNgW6AeM122rYh9gDKngc=; b=Q2QKZ6n694l1 HeahTYgtQMQ778Yg2oqFiQeuuEji/mqq6fvtHTi/b7YfZ29uLUo6G2WFElp4+9WC0gP/8Ehm7Fkg8 nnD2ICHIDS8kv2SFKQWxXMcJXGkkc7mk9tuoRVP57B1Z7NGXCyKsHa9Z0kSAIxH3uZZhwU54zCVZS X/O5LiBMjJmO6FtVjDuUqFYy7iG+vWlcBDHWTIBB9F0cDKNct+x51BFlZQ8fXfIlN0ztAIc/DexwM ZK+r6gTjEPiqFtAae9VU+OyRtr2WUBFg+qffOeBfkBVZQSTR0t2wdTMPsq3CIMdw7lMH5QJZM0476 11iCfttSQM+PZWXgXcOBtQ==; Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 18:45:56 +0200 Message-Id: <837ckflsxn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87wmsfrfij.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:39:16 +0100) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> <87edeogf24.fsf@gmx.net> <83il3zly84.fsf@gnu.org> <8734v3sxt3.fsf@gmx.net> <83cyu7lwaq.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmsfrfij.fsf@gmx.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:39:16 +0100 > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:33:17 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Stephen Berman > >> Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > >> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:48 +0100 > [...] > >> >> I thought I'd save you some work by installing the patch myself, > >> >> which I just did, but unfortunately to master instead of emacs-29 > >> >> (and also forgot to add the bug number). Should I revert it and > >> >> install to the release branch? Sorry for the trouble. > >> > > >> > You could have simply cherry-picked it to emacs-29. > >> > >> Is it possible to do that with VC? > > > > No, not that I know of. > > Pity. > > >> I didn't find the term in the source code, only in > >> admin/notes/git-workflow, which only shows the git command (and says > >> to "add 'Backport:' to the commit string", which is another > >> attention block I could well stumble over...). > > > > If you cherry-pick with the -x option, gitmerge.el will recognize the > > cherry-picks automatically, and there's no need for the "backport" > > indication. > > Ah, ok. But then shouldn't that directive be removed from the text, > since the example invocation has the -x option? Maybe. It does no harm, though. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Xiyue Deng Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D68375.170499162625747 (code D ref 68375); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 68375-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 16:47:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNyCv-0006hD-Sl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:47:06 -0500 Received: from mail-pg1-x535.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::535]:42438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rNyCt-0006ga-1A for 68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:47:05 -0500 Received: by mail-pg1-x535.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5ce10b5ee01so3887169a12.1 for <68375-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:47:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1704991619; x=1705596419; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=PGgQY1cJLwZrzmkUtsfcOFPXJeZWfARGS1CD5jq9cb0=; b=TIA6xF4SN2bhpyl8J6LNkP1lllRGkY1wyPKWWAMpsoAylpMVGWOWEJBumCXtOWU6Ck Wu9eWO4ymVWIso786BFp53iVYagnPCSqnuuZGnEr355/OvCgcwur6/meWEhJirklt5be KzIO/95M/4Wj0xXgCqzfQcdlTc5+1j7e/3oYKPmkSf4gmFDXSbQB+3T7153EzQJRFng1 9Ic9MuLHriPJJ6+f1gYECsTurWG+kVOWCQ77nO6rACkVA6YAtwgmgwrZ06L+fU1RUu0X ZKAyJAi51uOZbQN7G3rrFvTg/xswGWPl4lJJtXy5L8gCoUsRKi2WaVNarT/nJnUI1aXv t7qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704991619; x=1705596419; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=PGgQY1cJLwZrzmkUtsfcOFPXJeZWfARGS1CD5jq9cb0=; b=Fi5YtsKfpsF9o8wATEC4a3VyS9w20vCYQPg1OUIA02Oeu7J0cMBPLHCVjgfcgRRBy2 9tDSyO1UYAIca2U16LRX3n/PI1u4zg9MJQ3RGdU8ATQTYEcpz6/gamiwqDqYnvjGKhYL g6NEz3k07eN++Y2Qtsb5l/x2u5XmOqX4QkaY0CooHGpPUqM6WfEDKFc5PNXSLM4yBWi4 SJVm9MrzSrAAizeVNkX6M9L8VzLCYJfn+Eu0dGg+7caCnWlgj8QDGu45XyJoqdSPgMgN GoRXeYYXL46G3ZNuHUmbhVA/VcbrZIM9fdE68xL/9S1/TlBK3YTHPD/lgdUCMK0+b1o0 lo4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyZcx8Cf1rCMgwxJogydII4rHKJfoLylNAr8YWzu7hdJEJPcBOJ 3WvkomPE5ca24pSqYsH74a338K04yDU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGqRiF0ZxjTBN8ri2BICZdkV0XVJdphGuCLFMZA0kA/t8+DDeUpNufzfGp3lQylrwZ7fvcVmg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:29a0:b0:199:7522:5973 with SMTP id f32-20020a056a2029a000b0019975225973mr106408pzh.56.1704991619182; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-hx90 (2603-8000-a400-0cdc-7945-1d63-1787-20c0.res6.spectrum.com. [2603:8000:a400:cdc:7945:1d63:1787:20c0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t62-20020a625f41000000b006d9a94a03a8sm1431576pfb.77.2024.01.11.08.46.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:46:34 +0200") References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83wmsgkv05.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:46:57 -0800 Message-ID: <871qan4y2m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800 >> >> Please find the attached patches for a cumulation of documentation fixes >> for lispref up to chapter 19 that includes typos, formatting, etc. >> Please let me know if any changes need improvements and I'll adjust >> accordingly. > > Thanks. See below. > >> --- a/doc/lispref/objects.texi >> +++ b/doc/lispref/objects.texi >> @@ -1573,7 +1573,7 @@ editing. >> (@pxref{Files}) so they can be edited, but some are used for other >> purposes. Most buffers are also meant to be seen by the user, and >> therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But >> -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a >> +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > > This is not a typo: the wording here is correct English. So I didn't > install this part. > Indeed. Please excuse my poor English. >> A string is a fixed sequence of characters. It is a type of >> -sequence called a @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and >> +sequence called an @dfn{array}, meaning that its length is fixed and > > The "an" here is correct, since in a manual one sees "an array", which > is correct English. So I didn't install this part. Thanks Stephen for the help, too! > >> For information about other concatenation functions, see the >> -description of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, >> +descriptions of @code{mapconcat} in @ref{Mapping Functions}, > > There's nothing wrong with using singular here, so I didn't install > this part. > >> * doc/lispref/symbols.texi (Shorthands): Wrap `@pxref{Abbrevs}' in >> parentheses. > > I installed this part. > >> >From 454ed28e302493d678d2306b908c9542a8491daa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 16:31:30 -0800 >> Subject: [PATCH 5/6] Fix count of no-op functions >> >> It looks like there are actually three kinds of no-op functions. >> >> * doc/lispref/functions.texi (Calling Functions): Fix count and >> plural of no-op functions. > > I installed this part as well. > >> * doc/lispref/debugging.texi (Syntax Errors): Fix unmatched >> parentheses. > > I didn't install this part, because there's nothing wrong with > parentheses here. Using @pxref as below: > >> If the problem is not simply an imbalance of parentheses, a useful >> -technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}, @pxref{Moving by >> +technique is to try @kbd{C-M-e} (@code{end-of-defun}), @pxref{Moving by >> Defuns,,,emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}) at the beginning of each defun, > > is perfectly correct. So I didn't install this part. Another example that late reading is not a good idea. Sorry for the noise. > > Please note that with this contribution we've exhausted the amount of > changes we can accept from you without a copyright assignment. Would > you like to start the legal paperwork of assigning to the FSF the > copyright for your future contributions? If so, I will send you the > form to fill and the instructions to email the filled form. I'm already in the process and finished document. I'm currently still waiting for reply on how to handle employer exemption. Hopefully I'll hear back from assign@gnu.org soon. > > Thanks, I will now close this bug. -- Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170503181231793 (code B ref 68375); Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2024 03:56:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rO8f5-0008Gj-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37334) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rO8f3-0008GV-5Y for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rO8ez-00072G-R4; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=lyzTnr30+MRg9FbCbZQWnKRxi1GVaXedr6C5JmGHweo=; b=frLcBa4599N8 2olFAehO3B4ZdwETGMLasNWVRvwKPnTgRBNa50rCPC3W3NjoVSEOIM8Gv/zd/gBhId5R4l75Du6Xh 2vof2Qv4g8rXSCMaIh6pdwUgh1+WSAZwZBKorfp9ZsdiYaKOH5mmJPubwPYZNhh7NrgFqvgA7VCrz +257b6+xFfs1UzCIsHvKxk5ye0JHyPtVeV/0vKXM387oAd0FCmS9z2nlmFoOR75nbMe3nqvJmqWax yargP4cUC/DvyqeG1KBE5wmOQ8PlkvG1uIAhp+f5S19y35Zjc+mQkSob1crRyXJaoTEYl/N521AJh p1D/K7ZESu0/rjCCr0VoFA==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rO8ew-0004Ec-I6; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:43 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:56:23 -0800) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:42 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But > -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a Actually, the old text is more correct English usage. "Need" is a special case, and uses the old subjunctive mood which is mostly obsolete in English. > -Somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain > +A somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain The old text is correct. In thise situation we are using "behavior" as an uncountable mass noun. Your other changes are correct. 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But > > -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > > +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > > Actually, the old text is more correct English usage. > "Need" is a special case, and uses the old subjunctive mood > which is mostly obsolete in English. > > > -Somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain > > +A somewhat odd, but predictable, behavior can occur for certain > > > The old text is correct. In thise situation we are using "behavior" > as an uncountable mass noun. > > Your other changes are correct. Thanks. 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Content preview: On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:42 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's e [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [89.246.37.203 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [212.227.15.19 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.19 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stephen.berman[at]gmx.net) 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:56:42 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > therefore displayed, at some time, in a window (@pxref{Windows}). But > > -a buffer need not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > > +a buffer needs not be displayed in any window. Each buffer has a > > Actually, the old text is more correct English usage. > "Need" is a special case, and uses the old subjunctive mood In this sentence "need" is not in the subjunctive mood but is being used as a modal verb, like "can", "must", etc. What's special about "need" in this usage is that it only occurs in so-called polarity contexts (e.g. negative, interrogative), unlike the ordinary modal verbs (so e.g. "A buffer need be displayed" is ungrammatical but "A buffer can/must/may be displayed" is fine). (An example of the subjunctive mood is "be" in e.g. "This requires that a buffer not be displayed in any window." I can't off the top of my head think of an acceptable use of "need" in the subjunctive, but perhaps there are such uses.) Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:55:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170511809719573 (code B ref 68375); Sat, 13 Jan 2024 03:55:03 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2024 03:54:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38099 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOV6n-00055a-Bl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOV6k-00055J-L8 for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOV6g-0007E0-RA; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=fnZKU7ZON9n15C8ZjAPmTA/IC6IVqHgm2ITS/gID1hY=; b=rSw5Qb12JFjB tb0RFn4FWngxcMxGVqPitMaWy3ZMIL5VJmp8Ul39IiZqiPL6w9UuJtEwK/6uIgK/Oss0h/03vKRsa 8PXGBTlCj7baeOnmHZ6GgUAK5au2iHXwhRHJD/j8nQC4rohfHPEy7o00RRsuMIncQej3C+YNhvBR3 al2KogjH4Vwt4PLR+AwGShVB6za5euxZkcy0/nzylVie9aNb3jDpmg4GKVZccxmEGzozEP2R9c2Rm bZuPFKa4IKvO8/flN5k44NAS3J9kZCe80gYBfTq6rehYzwHLnFBDaFQ9pJd2foC0OHCdokxMbsMci FFYNgqjjYUXutOOMCoWYoA==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOV6e-0005C9-Bj; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:48 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <871qam995r.fsf@gmx.net> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <871qam995r.fsf@gmx.net> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:48 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In this sentence "need" is not in the subjunctive mood but is being used > as a modal verb, like "can", "must", etc. What's special about "need" > in this usage is that it only occurs in so-called polarity contexts > (e.g. negative, interrogative), unlike the ordinary modal verbs (so > e.g. "A buffer need be displayed" is ungrammatical but "A buffer > can/must/may be displayed" is fine). Is there a grammatical name for this sort of verb usage practice? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:56:30 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#68375: 29.1; lispref documentation fixes Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 16:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68375 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 68375@debbugs.gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com Received: via spool by 68375-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68375.170516288432208 (code B ref 68375); Sat, 13 Jan 2024 16:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 68375) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2024 16:21:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOgl9-0008NP-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:21:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:53857) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOgl6-0008N7-Nh for 68375@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:21:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1705162875; x=1705767675; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=ULbE8bKTx0Z6uG5rNbRAwHNpBoiL5WpcBzE/3gQUGU0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Date; b=jJEZlaFMEqvJL4vtwhT35Yml4OsMhnjczH4/naZFmWUioCAOCKfO8ezZloeM+sSX g7GqCb4hUwaOJFbsYSgXYTzy9gUgZQwbVnNOSHmlxQ0eOfb++W3Y+E5e559wJmjBr X51PEpR5OhzIoVMa/gKYCdj+W6ozXdUcL2uux8v7DaVxipQGuSlpNfg/+CXQWZl6U qIWuvohEYwFqsNrwzyDQNtsRRRM/j0GrUwyTuGUg+8rfwwnp6WNA7IFph5b+tADIj QdS0T9a0bpamZ0lEAo3IAQ8dy/hDnz7Aa+iLPp9l2dAFO8ZZha2cEvnss602s07fr 50bECCdWrT1RbGWyow== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfs2 ([94.134.196.23]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MTAFb-1raXtk0NCh-00UWky; Sat, 13 Jan 2024 17:21:15 +0100 From: Stephen Berman In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:48 -0500") References: <87wmsgztk8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <871qam995r.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 17:21:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87zfx9cih1.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:tI2aVvkMEqFrJWP3Hbpgn1dJOb/5fd4hKdMlyWknlla/adrQYsX Kxad8/nupMszYiA60gjKZJOzpWb0IKhx4CA3PYlWRjf17FoJQoEfTnBsAjGxPrG27OCcMzT qzESz8SijUfKNmPASL/HHxjj0GSccsEobEoOiO5mmWsPvWJoAJK43i9uCnz0EG2gdWIBAsA vWA/7BsZzKQe/TU/moj3w== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:ZV7g5yegA1s=;ic/ZRifpsUcXSYGh6zPTxe0fDkk uKieABUGFNltWvWup+FhD53swS4E5AgAbNeELaFjTfyUmXDzqmpiVYOx5ZQbzHaae/GpNCqJk 5Szh7JXMKGy2d56i5mM7ZnbQSO1Pk1qQAF1Vaa7zsumJ0osvjx5mViumOdueTAIJuSLStkyk7 mkxZEEdsA9DHNz1C3HDgX+jCMcYobvhqCQ5Nb1Y8csJIPhyw52SSbSInQvUGfjMaMEY3v7Yk1 aSeWwL4/xmKa5NgOqp7ViB0EP5xyH58Rxx9Gk2WWyxegw5qM8KAn9lSWNlGXwFdAlUhtX5E67 /atmk9XXPhR/m38FxGy4mBlaAaBOzP44mafRpaSp6l5qkusebu+X8I+ILnfgbdhvYv24HX9IU DStFxJ6Lw000ForgROrCAHk7BsGERsOCf3uTW9S2o+TNv2f7ZZAarPvZrADVmaWLvTgnQYg3d w+8+8arSpXcZU/hkEhdHjBsyy0UdW+U9Gf65rdgdO4jprg9bRSBBHBEhTwFfGjJlz6/BHm6Td h1JB8fe6nPrz/beGO7yTIz8oYzMW4RGl92RTt3q7atz/CESn+KmLBhc/0JN1ZOBFSvFQvx86Q W58uFJt6gvnLLD/N16kQazV64+leE/iS4Ws4yMUl/xrZyd+KkCdD1F7t/CC/PzhkRQaOrN3M4 vDbS+zEku0T2t46eRPtsVcyJjIXpxVPsLv97A2xou9WiQVWUrir6gBbWNuSGIyruNXxCQV0GL yU08zvYf1shJtnv+I6a/vArvw1OkvFVB490chjNPLPFJdT0gVV8yHKSFRU5V9bJZRLOvxunMg UhMjbAz9nfdSZ5xlAqg3gPxz8SA5atuIIycd3i9v91oqFA6DT2vTIjogqtbQ3sgowtHzlT5pa c9Hr5jwe+VR+HlxfXovcidDXXOnFO58GShublwu6ZvmR2QVr0qZduLZJyU/tVlmIPTEyIxThD s1l0FVG1zqhRhUWm92k7FX7HXS0= X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:48 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's e [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [94.134.196.23 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [212.227.17.22 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.17.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stephen.berman[at]gmx.net) 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:54:48 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > In this sentence "need" is not in the subjunctive mood but is being used > > as a modal verb, like "can", "must", etc. What's special about "need" > > in this usage is that it only occurs in so-called polarity contexts > > (e.g. negative, interrogative), unlike the ordinary modal verbs (so > > e.g. "A buffer need be displayed" is ungrammatical but "A buffer > > can/must/may be displayed" is fine). > > Is there a grammatical name for this sort of verb usage practice? If you mean the possibility of using an "ordinary" verb as a modal verb, then I'm not aware of any term. Maybe this is because this possibility is so rare (at least in English; AFAIK the only other verb like "need" is "dare"). If you mean the semantic restrictions on the use of "need" as a modal verb, then AFAIK "polarity" is the most-widely used term (also in compounds like "polarity-sensitive"), particularly within theoretical linguistics but also in descriptive grammars like "The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language". (The phenomenon is much broader than the use of "need", applying to the distributions of words like "any" and "no(ne)", "ever" and "never" and so on.) 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