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23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands

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From: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:02:27 -0600

*vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.



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Message #8 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:40:26 -0400

Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com> writes:

> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the point is over a stash.
(tooltips over the stash show what's available).

Should vc-git-stash  and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in *vc-dir*?

Ideas (and patches) on how to improve the UI are more than welcome!

Message #11 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:25:36 -0600

>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org> writes:

Dan> Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com> writes:
>> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
>> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

Dan> There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the
Dan> point is over a stash.  (tooltips over the stash show what's
Dan> available).

Thanks.

The problem with tooltips is they only show up if I happen to hover
there with the mouse.

Dan> Should vc-git-stash and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in
Dan> *vc-dir*?

These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
showed up in `C-h m' at least.

Tom

Message #14 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:26:50 -0400

Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com> writes:

>>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> Dan> Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com> writes:
>>> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
>>> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.
>
> Dan> There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the
> Dan> point is over a stash.  (tooltips over the stash show what's
> Dan> available).
>
> Thanks.
>
> The problem with tooltips is they only show up if I happen to hover
> there with the mouse.

Sure, tooltips are just one thing that can make things easier to use...


> Dan> Should vc-git-stash and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in
> Dan> *vc-dir*?
>
> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
> showed up in `C-h m' at least.

I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
derived from vc-dir-mode would help...

How about adding buttons on the Stash line:

Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT

That would make it more obvious how to create a stash.
These are not very frequent actions, so it would help not having to
remember a key binding.

There's some difficulty with the buttons: the "Stash:" is inserted as
a string in the EWOC, and the widget.el buttons want to be inserted
using widget-create (or somesuch), so the buttons might need to be
created from scratch...

Message #17 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>, 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:10:16 +0200

> How about adding buttons on the Stash line:

> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT

I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
a stash sounds about right.

Of course, I think it's more important to first move the support for
stash/shelve from backends to the generic vc.el.


        Stefan

Message #20 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>, 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:11:30 -0400

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> How about adding buttons on the Stash line:
>
>> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT
>
> I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
> a stash sounds about right.

There's already a menu entry about that, and Tom's original complaint
was that it's hard to discover...

Message #23 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:45:46 +0200

> I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

You don't need to enable the menu-bar for that.
C-down-mouse-3 will show you the menu-bar even if it's disabled.


        Stefan

Message #26 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>, 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:46:07 +0200

>>> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT
>> 
>> I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
>> a stash sounds about right.

> There's already a menu entry about that,

Duh!  Sorry.

> and Tom's original complaint was that it's hard to discover...

We could provide a tool-bar, and in that tool-bar, maybe shelve/stash
would get a spot (not sure, but possible).  But text buttons don't
seem justified.
Tom's problem is that he's not used to using the menu-bar to
find features.


        Stefan

Message #29 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:15:26 -0600

>> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
>> showed up in `C-h m' at least.

Dan> I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
Dan> derived from vc-dir-mode would help...

How about just putting the bindings in the mode's map, and having the
commands error when outside the stash area?

Tom

Message #32 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>, 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:22:08 +0200

>>> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
>>> showed up in `C-h m' at least.
Dan> I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
Dan> derived from vc-dir-mode would help...
> How about just putting the bindings in the mode's map, and having the
> commands error when outside the stash area?

And/or move stash/shelve to the generic code, of course.


        Stefan

Message #35 received at 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com>
Cc: 6815 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6815: 23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:05:34 +0100

Tom Tromey <tromey <at> redhat.com> writes:

> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

This has been fixed in Emacs 29 -- `z c' etc.

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