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[69.209.31.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o5-20020a817305000000b005cd9cdbc48dsm8219072ywc.72.2023.12.17.11.38.51 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Dec 2023 11:38:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Abrahams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 11:38:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2e; envelope-from=dave@boostpro.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The info page for Eglot says: 3.1 Eglot features: =E2=80=A2 On-the-fly diagnostic annotations with server-suggested = fixes, via the Flymake package (*note (flymake)Top::). =20 But I can find no evidence of the support for server-suggested fixes either in flymake or in eglot itself. I am working with an LSP server that offers fix-its but can't find any way to apply them. Either what's meant by this should be clarified, leading to discoverable instructions for exploiting the feature, or the text should be removed. 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[69.209.31.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h3-20020a259743000000b00db41482d349sm7082986ybo.57.2023.12.17.12.23.51 for <67870@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:23:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Abrahams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:23:41 -0800 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <16B344A1-757C-4F6D-A2CD-2CA8C79FD95D@boostpro.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I eventually found some eglot commands with the name "quickfix" in them. = possibly adding some references to those in the text would help= From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 67870@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67870.170291885017240 (code B ref 67870); Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 67870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2023 17:00:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFGz3-0004TQ-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:00:50 -0500 Received: from mail-lj1-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22a]:47262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFGz1-0004Da-2Y for 67870@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:00:47 -0500 Received: by mail-lj1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2cc3647bf06so36018281fa.2 for <67870@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:00:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702918839; x=1703523639; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=vadV8t+EZF8hBh3JTNZMPz7Yb4M+m7EtQ7lKTiTtYVU=; b=R5/xWR8y8+f0tQycrYM+JMIx5WPHBCcX8KU3z7/QjOi3RInVvYm6p8WMt9jfLTcyYg cU3GPJp+VJOUXfBY34p5CWMJOwWTEr805MP2saVboFX7n0vVpFLf0nKfTmh+M/Erfcc8 de2/DR9TuMW/UvT13GpyWLGbrXkKK1DBwwrIzj/NBppeELuGXNoaN6qs1Q/GSThGRaLX GQuhnKO3TgMkVpo2tfbAFyNyH8JftwvQiiO5bc8qZ+sUs8rGpqloA96sjPq0QIvdgV2l Lp6ohbFZI2JMcpEd1JAxD36WnpQ8MbMrY+ezG/Srh7gekW3vsU0pfvskkcwH0qI+Yfbt Qapg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702918839; x=1703523639; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vadV8t+EZF8hBh3JTNZMPz7Yb4M+m7EtQ7lKTiTtYVU=; b=Wg744ps4VqJ1ciEp1I9A1wTFLDMTGZvP/gdtAbpmBTSVzQisn5wZzTPJWpHQBRtTKs F8IHRWQBdoFiwP2xdLGYoDN/WHsFhe0dyC+Rcls+qosiR+Ss/VtoftplqPgp/EkcPgqK zWl3zx1B9wE9N775w5f57Nyha6PhKM+5KAGxbipBjX7IwNkbAZvFwqpgy5eyrMOG20Fe C9VnbIIgFvMHFJKMLvo3OHiGDT2tzxJp8QV/2G6xnRigDFHh4Mmp62aGp74tCg610Ank lYtkEuMmxmcY3bQgKfXqUCTY8Gp5C6mukpSD3+uQNKAU6lrtf1p7qyujygnstpOpguJh iWKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzxt78Rn5C4n4d4Lw3S0P3pQ7nuNIvmWay9vn463Y+DZILCXMJc Vyn422wg6JYWfrUOJ17zBjVxuWXpuh5yh9eBj5U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEzC9sXq3hO2+B4RJ17VLGPxI/2cdnzMa+6nwMTWOJVFnXLG0LAsUXy/UeYi+zx9TLcYA5NeWiXcSZb5m2P0AM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8610:0:b0:2cc:5fda:5bd7 with SMTP id a16-20020a2e8610000000b002cc5fda5bd7mr1147800lji.99.1702918838651; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:00:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:40=E2=80=AFPM Dave Abrahams w= rote: > The info page for Eglot says: > > 3.1 Eglot features: > > =E2=80=A2 On-the-fly diagnostic annotations with server-suggested fixe= s, via > the Flymake package (*note (flymake)Top::). > > But I can find no evidence of the support for server-suggested fixes > either in flymake or in eglot itself. I am working with an LSP server > that offers fix-its but can't find any way to apply them. Isn't very hard to find in "3.3 Eglot commands" IMO =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-organize-imports=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-quickfix=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-extract=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-inline=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-rewrite=E2=80=99 These commands allow you to invoke the so-called =E2=80=9Ccode actions= =E2=80=9D: requests for the language server to provide editing commands for correcting, refactoring or beautifying your code. These commands may affect more than one visited file belonging to the project. The command =E2=80=98eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99 asks the server if th= ere [are] any code actions for any point in the buffer or contained in the active region. If there are, you have the choice to execute one of them via the minibuffer. A common use of code actions is fixing the Flymake error diagnostics issued by Eglot (*note (flymake)Top::). Clicking on a diagnostic with =E2=80=98mouse-2=E2=80=99 invokes =E2=80=98eglot-code-= actions-at-mouse=E2=80=99 which pops up a menu of available code actions. The variable =E2=80=98eglot-diagnostics-map=E2=80=99 can be used to control the mou= se binding. Other commands execute a specific code action. For example, =E2=80=98eglot-code-action-organize-imports=E2=80=99 rearranges the pr= ogram's =E2=80=9Cimports=E2=80=9D--declarations of modules whose capabilities = the program uses. > Either what's meant by this should be clarified, leading to discoverable > instructions for exploiting the feature, or the text should be removed. That's just a summarized list of the main features, a detailed description doesn't of how to use the feature doesn't belong there. But patches welcom= e for a link down to 3.3 (and fixing the typo while you're at it). 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In fact, the Eglot manual isn't really very long. I recommend at least skimming its structure. Suggestions and patches welcome. 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[69.209.31.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v4-20020a818504000000b005d9729068f5sm9086012ywf.42.2023.12.18.11.10.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:10:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.200.91.1.1\)) From: Dave Abrahams In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:10:19 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <577DE428-A159-4E7B-917A-ED8371F74195@boostpro.com> References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.200.91.1.1) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Of course it's easy for *you* to find; you know what you're looking for. = I wouldn't have filed a bug if I wasn't having trouble, and I figured = the experience of someone not familiar with the package might count for = soimething. I looked for the words "suggested" and "fixes" and couldn't = find anything. I googled. I looked at flymake docs too because given = the phrasing I thought it might have been there. If you'd used some of = the distinctive words that could be found in the eglot manual around = these commands (e.g. quickfix, action, rewrite), I wouldn't have had any = trouble. "fix" by itself is a bit too short and common to be a good = search keyword. > On Dec 18, 2023, at 9:00=E2=80=AFAM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora = wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:40=E2=80=AFPM Dave Abrahams = wrote: >=20 >> The info page for Eglot says: >>=20 >> 3.1 Eglot features: >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 On-the-fly diagnostic annotations with server-suggested = fixes, via >> the Flymake package (*note (flymake)Top::). >>=20 >> But I can find no evidence of the support for server-suggested fixes >> either in flymake or in eglot itself. I am working with an LSP = server >> that offers fix-its but can't find any way to apply them. >=20 > Isn't very hard to find in "3.3 Eglot commands" IMO >=20 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-organize-imports=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-quickfix=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-extract=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-inline=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=98M-x eglot-code-action-rewrite=E2=80=99 > These commands allow you to invoke the so-called =E2=80=9Ccode = actions=E2=80=9D: > requests for the language server to provide editing commands for > correcting, refactoring or beautifying your code. These commands > may affect more than one visited file belonging to the project. >=20 > The command =E2=80=98eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99 asks the server = if there [are] any code > actions for any point in the buffer or contained in the active > region. If there are, you have the choice to execute one of them > via the minibuffer. >=20 > A common use of code actions is fixing the Flymake error > diagnostics issued by Eglot (*note (flymake)Top::). Clicking on a > diagnostic with =E2=80=98mouse-2=E2=80=99 invokes = =E2=80=98eglot-code-actions-at-mouse=E2=80=99 > which pops up a menu of available code actions. The variable > =E2=80=98eglot-diagnostics-map=E2=80=99 can be used to control the = mouse binding. >=20 > Other commands execute a specific code action. For example, > =E2=80=98eglot-code-action-organize-imports=E2=80=99 rearranges = the program's > =E2=80=9Cimports=E2=80=9D--declarations of modules whose = capabilities the program > uses. >=20 >> Either what's meant by this should be clarified, leading to = discoverable >> instructions for exploiting the feature, or the text should be = removed. >=20 > That's just a summarized list of the main features, a detailed = description > doesn't of how to use the feature doesn't belong there. But patches = welcome for > a link down to 3.3 (and fixing the typo while you're at it). >=20 > Jo=C3=A3o From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 20:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 67870@debbugs.gnu.org, 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67870.1702929617740 (code B ref 67870); Mon, 18 Dec 2023 20:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 67870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2023 20:00:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33670 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFJmi-0000AX-W2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 15:00:17 -0500 Received: from mail-lj1-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::234]:61692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFJmg-0008Bg-Kr; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 15:00:15 -0500 Received: by mail-lj1-x234.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ca0f21e48cso44679621fa.2; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702929606; x=1703534406; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=fAU6DcOD07OL2tgwBIt2gxq22sV/jaZMu4qCaOPsHHU=; b=ffEYl8B81o1aNSUjOd0d9xhLEHoYb1q9elAUP/CQHDxG07bci23F0TBnPi9k5/Bnqa GHiwdoIRYLlZu2w7qWnvT4Jjo0dN65S2fEF2Og2cGoMFZusI+SHcHEiCl5Wa8abNVZlV Zt+VAY1Eqn1ByOX0jItMmeRydQTtVZQC1cwYy2xye2jnHe4Zl60w6pNZIjNxjJwxHpNr FHEWFIeLiQp+L55KxCAAfxCJyGtnZWL+Az5/sVuwCff7pALT9JZxuhOE1foDoATE+ult fswcs3+XQ+axsrIaA00jzzvK2SlGnogoWuclKWlwM9Pxe2hdru2GoK7niGujTEObm1x0 he5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702929606; x=1703534406; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fAU6DcOD07OL2tgwBIt2gxq22sV/jaZMu4qCaOPsHHU=; b=UanxdTjJXlA6WUXYHv9BfBNBrB1GhHD2tRtK6QQ1ZowgiqRkeohMdlXHf1i22eIjB7 xsKhVUWkgsgayCzofDJ8gt5L7/GLoEbKGMn7FWAjrVU4ZYjSlZDI0+aF6zZ8ojInjA4v Br9h8oH2phvYMMNzTDDRXNpa4mLnjV+Q0c/2Jce8LRbS3XDiru4OHtXbOAPPNHbKv3nw tM43FGTxilsMA7eN/RUxYq0uSrtMFmnek8DtUhM5n7dfRTl5MuevPy5jvFhXI9vhm3M7 gihw4mgLLt8vWLUfDDwqNm4LysHfDUQSSlOmtvCgA+G7v/PDPWs3tOwz0uyFpshbCvYK xpIA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx0cHUWi8aeaMARlINXAfQ6vXvfM1zRNHZ2LUh+0AYeL0uhiFHw 5dCpmWX+PKdwo8k6xMUee0gWvQYhz3WS1m5Ds2s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE6T8gowYX5m+UNATyi0/AediFErgCvWZxH6ClouGVDyPDjg6jrZGJpAEyLgo5dpQLm83EujUltidiYPgeLDt4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1993:b0:2cc:202f:ce84 with SMTP id bx19-20020a05651c199300b002cc202fce84mr7548154ljb.33.1702929606085; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <577DE428-A159-4E7B-917A-ED8371F74195@boostpro.com> In-Reply-To: <577DE428-A159-4E7B-917A-ED8371F74195@boostpro.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:59:54 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 7:10=E2=80=AFPM Dave Abrahams w= rote: > > Of course it's easy for *you* to find; Well, yes. That's why I wrote "IMO" which abbreviates "in my opinion". I don't have control over your _opinion_ it's just, like, your opinion. > I wouldn't have filed a bug if I wasn't having trouble, I hope you are out of trouble now :-) > in the eglot manual around these commands (e.g. quickfix, action, > rewrite), I wouldn't have had any trouble. "fix" by itself is a bit too = short and common to be a good search keyword. No need to justify yourself so much, but I find this odd. For example, a simple text search within the Eglot manual for "action" yields this as the second result in the end of the very section you were reading. =E2=80=A2 In addition to enabling and enhancing other features and packa= ges, Eglot also provides a number of user commands based on the capabilities of language servers. Examples include renaming symbols with =E2=80=98eglot-rename=E2=80=99 and asking to automaticall= y correct problems with =E2=80=98eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99. *Note Eglot Comma= nds::. And "code actions" and "quickfix" and "rename" are easily found in the manual's index, also just a C-s (isearch) away. It's very good that you are using Eglot's manual, but IMO glancing through a high-level overview of features is not sufficient to learn how to use it. You need at least skim the remainder of the manual. Packages in Emacs are controlled via commands, and so the "Eglot Commands" section is very relevant to use Eglot. That section is amply referenced through the manual. Maybe I'll add something to the existing "For the impatient" section. Until then, I consider this bug report solved, so I'm closing it. Jo=C3=A3o From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dave Abrahams Subject: bug#67870: closed (Re: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 67870 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 67870@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 20:01:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1702929663-6983-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1702929663-6983-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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That's why I wrote "IMO" which abbreviates "in my opinion". I don't have control over your _opinion_ it's just, like, your opinion. > I wouldn't have filed a bug if I wasn't having trouble, I hope you are out of trouble now :-) > in the eglot manual around these commands (e.g. quickfix, action, > rewrite), I wouldn't have had any trouble. "fix" by itself is a bit too = short and common to be a good search keyword. No need to justify yourself so much, but I find this odd. For example, a simple text search within the Eglot manual for "action" yields this as the second result in the end of the very section you were reading. =E2=80=A2 In addition to enabling and enhancing other features and packa= ges, Eglot also provides a number of user commands based on the capabilities of language servers. Examples include renaming symbols with =E2=80=98eglot-rename=E2=80=99 and asking to automaticall= y correct problems with =E2=80=98eglot-code-actions=E2=80=99. *Note Eglot Comma= nds::. And "code actions" and "quickfix" and "rename" are easily found in the manual's index, also just a C-s (isearch) away. It's very good that you are using Eglot's manual, but IMO glancing through a high-level overview of features is not sufficient to learn how to use it. You need at least skim the remainder of the manual. Packages in Emacs are controlled via commands, and so the "Eglot Commands" section is very relevant to use Eglot. That section is amply referenced through the manual. Maybe I'll add something to the existing "For the impatient" section. Until then, I consider this bug report solved, so I'm closing it. 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I am working with an LSP server that offers fix-its but can't find any way to apply them. Either what's meant by this should be clarified, leading to discoverable instructions for exploiting the feature, or the text should be removed. 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[69.209.31.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h63-20020a255342000000b00dbd4743a4d8sm779224ybb.44.2023.12.19.00.15.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Dec 2023 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Dave Abrahams Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 00:15:19 -0800 Message-Id: <72A920F6-B1E8-4F00-B72B-DD05F808BA19@boostpro.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (21B101) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) You=E2=80=99re missing my point. In that bulletin there was nothing that cou= ld have prompted me to search for =E2=80=9Caction=E2=80=9D. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2023, at 12:00=E2=80=AFPM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: >=20 > No need to justify yourself so much, but I find this odd. > For example, a simple text search within the Eglot manual for > "action" yields this as the second result in the end of the > very section you were reading. 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Jo=C3=A3o From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 03:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=83=C2=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=83=C2=A1vora?= Cc: dave@boostpro.com, 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67870.170321485321380 (code D ref 67870); Fri, 22 Dec 2023 03:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 67870-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2023 03:14:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGVzJ-0005Yl-5E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:14:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37616) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGVzH-0005YY-8C for 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:14:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rGVz7-0007gY-9H; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:14:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=LX7n+/8g3hpKIcnWIQOg8i6/YPPYz8AlhNSFS1DScDM=; b=b64Q8wZKObt0 0ynXMXXBHaA9IJvOglStrL328lklo/C1/s68WI4Rqd8DQSjACdlXicV8PlEKDh7wX7azOF2enJuDX ME+vpwF65lbpZuxmNbYAWXlsuzvKVIUh18x61eIprvDExl/qL3jgNshwEBZ4d2I87HMEWkhY9o8+2 gn+w36NYOvhg9eoaZpC5lJ933qESYtIumGHjFCsAbnBjbsSJ0RpmUCWeUT98W4nAgJo9J7ARvK793 d3HHXzgydft71UUWe+TqiKMGMbvYwxeRXTRd9yai9AdkpGlhGx3aDZItg/fRiGB7/fjh/HtyHqccL RWh5IzV8PIJCcXp1x9rbfw==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rGVz7-0002sC-0w; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:14:01 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=83=C2=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=83=C2=A1vora?= on Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:51:36 +0000) References: <72A920F6-B1E8-4F00-B72B-DD05F808BA19@boostpro.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:14:01 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > You’re missing my point. In that bulletin there was nothing that could have prompted me to search for “action”. > Well, I can't help every user connect the pieces of this > one-piece puzzle every time. Read more of the fine > manual next time, and thanks. Making a manual really fine includes sometimes tweaking little details like this, to help users find what they really should be looking for. I've done that many times in manuals I was working on. One can tweak index entries, command names, news items, and all sorts of things to make connections work. We can't make them perfect, but we can often make them better. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dave@boostpro.com, 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67870.170323739518644 (code D ref 67870); Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 67870-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2023 09:29:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46051 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGbqt-0004qe-6f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:29:55 -0500 Received: from mail-lf1-x130.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::130]:54550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGbqr-0004qR-SA for 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:29:54 -0500 Received: by mail-lf1-x130.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-50e34a72660so2043380e87.1 for <67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:29:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703237383; x=1703842183; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4NkiStBsxcOV5Ozu+ZnCflTakaOv39dSz4eOmP4s3Wg=; b=TjqqwVWKyU8vc2z+pg4BnpBNArnnhEuXdp0x0+pFoUEFp8aHrl9/kCOOKiMTw6tlPa RiN8rxGA0/B3DD4R1w1J7TlxY4EnF5z+9Fr0zELaN6dJa2EcuEtvaIp9Mk/uJTVelMrh lVn6/CBr71pp4MOFDp8fIrPEpTXCxIg18UggGo29YP3vqCZ40yd2DoQp4veMaRFtnzzA 8esOci7sR/3v9ptYTpitUdsBd6Egs1up5ymhKxu7hHAyJBDK+6JLuCCFO9RBYpWMa1SB 8pjQAr96zkKWvOkvbJPFjuDuzlqt5nEVENdbLkHJrQeaI3OpOceGw5zYA7/heJrYg++V cJIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703237383; x=1703842183; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4NkiStBsxcOV5Ozu+ZnCflTakaOv39dSz4eOmP4s3Wg=; b=UTySAw1yLUWO0ujKOzj07QXiIQq1j6lpVt69IHlp42phq5u2H1t4/ILGNo78H8pPle em29VBCd5orND7Zd8yPib8CaZJ7kaPPUsX6m6CVdtPKvp/yHFMPgq0qL+wTCHuvr3SMP +AL82p82C8SmkdOPYeD2+5CaVHOi26sj8zyM14rfaxQsLzaIeZG2IUnOBfGdiCmKgd5F jwqcqj27n4p7n/5rTQ7wToQ2tEbx1EqXUD1SLdmq9Jp7Q1Wpv5bkANJwto5Pe2WKQwSt QPOSZLmexTQxqCjeyAwMXu85MqH/KbjSYUhdw6RML7f5knAK8zjEKkcI/CYpyrLmP8ov EMkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzPw/hXoIDF8bvK3lQChH+pUbgKkYarGC2DByTp1NyXnlB0IyFE LVXHccsFjB6kJzW47U/moScBVn+zpf8xzzn2ZTM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFH07BKlhAesHxIbjg6YZ5n+0zraw6Sqgms3HUYU3v8hMv6pO3JDA6YCGB1lyFhLqZZWH7mwPwSJ9t+3qHBENg= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8898:0:b0:2cc:57a7:9076 with SMTP id k24-20020a2e8898000000b002cc57a79076mr410359lji.65.1703237383056; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:29:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <72A920F6-B1E8-4F00-B72B-DD05F808BA19@boostpro.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:29:30 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:14=E2=80=AFAM Richard Stallman wrot= e: > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > You=E2=80=99re missing my point. In that bulletin there was nothing= that could have prompted me to search for =E2=80=9Caction=E2=80=9D. > > > Well, I can't help every user connect the pieces of this > > one-piece puzzle every time. Read more of the fine > > manual next time, and thanks. > > Making a manual really fine includes sometimes tweaking little details > like this, to help users find what they really should be looking for. > I've done that many times in manuals I was working on. I clarified the doubt, asked for suggestions and got none. So I've rewritten that sentence originally written by Eli, who I understand not to be a heavy Eglot user yet. It's generally impossible every user's reading experience. There were numerous other hints the user could have followed, like searching for "fix" or "Flymake" and they could have read just have a few more paragraphs to find more. From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dave@boostpro.com, 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67870.170323809729948 (code D ref 67870); Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 67870-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2023 09:41:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGc2D-0007my-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:41:37 -0500 Received: from mail-lj1-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22c]:43371) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGc2A-0007mj-Tc for 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:41:35 -0500 Received: by mail-lj1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ccabfd9762so3091271fa.1 for <67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:41:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703238084; x=1703842884; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=PO+/DM73X3tap5dLrTzqWd35Ke939+kLGwCHOt5zPWE=; b=eYr0KGdMQbKb0VaMafJZJw1rzAhQaaiBnI/AkAShuN94IIXUVq7J+H1/6F/m1DW66Y dwCdl80k2v3Md6ot8by8IT62tAA3ZdGMTw4+NlEisF8/A6VPE/ml51S8VqqsnQhd564O +XcGPbTww0kQm8QaigRa162hBhvMbclgW9xES2cndamxFTF71K8k1UTHr2Tklm97HZPh AWHdWM93//Yn+3vm8ue+igrO1GpI4jeDn0aWDQ5HZkMfmbs4dBqO2/Pa7dwSB2qpzWIw 3qJK/IyFFmWcIBOv3F8qWO8vEXseMJGbCcogIiMghsxq/h7gATWy4fSNc6TlLqX0KHwc jxdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703238084; x=1703842884; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=PO+/DM73X3tap5dLrTzqWd35Ke939+kLGwCHOt5zPWE=; b=sQVXa+dUpqMegpPN9dpqwkqFpLo3EaFU5hm/hArRtY9IaSQi5oygH3NvRxiAGlYJEl /R3di7RCoS7Cqgs4sqqanttvAds9HWls3bWhNlgT+ZLCwLAbenCgVR0sJrfrxhd9f4/R HMZglqXgSqb8t4Td7PFDBNgQbWKReSsc07Dw2PPF+DUiQCGl7hqX/0V904suxWWzmxVN iN1Op1uLxJmIOwISUQwfIktjaB0P9dZ2h2/pfPpSclGBTWvha+ykbOl7D0BB/s5IdkNQ H7i2lH+1yseZh0mLCkh7VibPTU4ECUZ+cCfZI7+FpXr26Ry2/YwK5z3O2NbygOmb9Wxb qRmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxJttcnvJHWSiOk48Fky+RsZiDvDFo+b6bmZLQqDDUIFnVXubBa 9q5RyfDj7929UH6PsUymoCL1z1vunYV+mOyVouM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFfwtSkRnuRR4IObY+pxLv21FK64PewGo2XOlyoe+pzD77lNr+KH909ZQuwnMNe7VmYjzLH6ny6hzrKu8DQpmg= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9d97:0:b0:2cc:5824:b8b8 with SMTP id c23-20020a2e9d97000000b002cc5824b8b8mr1218857ljj.22.1703238084063; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:41:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <72A920F6-B1E8-4F00-B72B-DD05F808BA19@boostpro.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:41:12 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:29=E2=80=AFAM Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > > Making a manual really fine includes sometimes tweaking little details > > like this, to help users find what they really should be looking for. > > I've done that many times in manuals I was working on. > > I clarified the doubt, asked for suggestions and got none. > So I've rewritten that sentence originally written by Eli, who > I understand not to be a heavy Eglot user yet. It's generally > impossible every user's reading experience. There were numerous ^^^^ [to anticipate] From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Cc: 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67870.170326726024433 (code D ref 67870); Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 67870-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2023 17:47:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47836 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGjcZ-0006Lx-Am for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:47:40 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]:44046) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rGjcU-0006Lf-3W for 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:47:37 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6da682e0a20so1367570a34.0 for <67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:47:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=boostpro-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1703267243; x=1703872043; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=to:references:message-id:cc:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=aRyfXCkmHW8pWM1T8FSqi24esSXN+Hh1ZRvKlTgJdTw=; b=eS8eRYUJkJqiBZAiEAasg9lZ9Q0/iFUakwGmHVNOOEQIYQj/N+Jr9eviISa0rdKkCH CyGh8aIkls/NFJb8itKFsCcdkcMxvXvGffNGO0RJ3b0ODz6gsfD1bOO6dV2Ew6EsYeNJ fXzAf0toO9swKRgJ/RMGth53BOqCG+8LAg8TInTSYNYlwgOGhXpGhkmzsisTqumpjVHc fkkkmhHuyZJ5MH7JaR1aV48SgrSyYpAHQaVGFti2DbZZa9/jIVEx/3uZ0J0MJ1qTPfeQ pM2ruVVgxzE/5eQ9bGgrgwDkGj+d4XOpdU++SOMVLRbszT0wCZya79dqXUJFHN5Ynea0 QXyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703267243; x=1703872043; h=to:references:message-id:cc:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aRyfXCkmHW8pWM1T8FSqi24esSXN+Hh1ZRvKlTgJdTw=; b=LZii+3h7PDGI2Ri7J5U6JZYl8JxHiuWA1yqNpJ4sHYgVquxMGEIEh4QmSl1+Dhmah+ L0hEqhCrTXdFJm8fkA1c1Phks9xk9iQCMf5kNbGUU9mFw/aiRQH4TdGpqTNOUIagHW97 TNYb80t3x8Qi9jBgQgJ3JST2V9lwbPs00ilcmj8dxBF94IcfQLWHkodHtNRDJP6GPx1R O3ev2aLZ18qL+0fQaUekC+ckwonIy24tkbcTPw2tq+shCS8lFLTSNmvfcY/pbPQ4m6O1 Mgku12Ni0GqIsrySB+PMJ3EAdVACX+o3vHYw+z/oRSPqhJCWAgo9CB239UNUcymQFFM2 8PfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YymqkHL8vO+U2bBRATeffdXJVjzgfEverT0/5GHV8s0opRcfT3f GJTkCo5R98sJpVb/whY4hcx+LooJ6chLcg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGHhQ1F9CF/z3I3nFqjrhaGpFYRUbtOOsXst0TMq1KWumzAfia07sbOD4GcKxGmahMNIs3G/Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6358:528e:b0:174:c1a5:7724 with SMTP id g14-20020a056358528e00b00174c1a57724mr2115935rwa.42.1703267243556; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2600:380:4614:87a7:e17e:a7ef:11f1:157e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b7-20020a62cf07000000b006cde4523767sm3861102pfg.22.2023.12.22.09.47.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:47:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Dave Abrahams In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:47:11 -0800 Message-Id: <25F870BA-C37C-4C47-AD5B-D56273CDB0CD@boostpro.com> References: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21B101) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I did suggest including certain words that would have helped me. Do you want= a suggested rewrite of the text instead? What qualifies as a suggestion in= your book? >=20 > On Dec 22, 2023, at 1:29=E2=80=AFAM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:14=E2=80=AFAM Richard Stallman wrote: >>=20 >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>=20 >>>> You=E2=80=99re missing my point. In that bulletin there was nothing tha= t could have prompted me to search for =E2=80=9Caction=E2=80=9D. >>=20 >>> Well, I can't help every user connect the pieces of this >>> one-piece puzzle every time. Read more of the fine >>> manual next time, and thanks. >>=20 >> Making a manual really fine includes sometimes tweaking little details >> like this, to help users find what they really should be looking for. >> I've done that many times in manuals I was working on. >=20 > I clarified the doubt, asked for suggestions and got none. > So I've rewritten that sentence originally written by Eli, who > I understand not to be a heavy Eglot user yet. It's generally > impossible every user's reading experience. There were numerous > other hints the user could have followed, like searching for "fix" or > "Flymake" and they could have read just have a few more paragraphs > to find more. From unknown Fri Jul 18 23:12:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67870: 29.1; Eglot missing or un-findable advertised feature Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dave Abrahams , =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Cc: 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67870.17034496686602 (code D ref 67870); Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 67870-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2023 20:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53625 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHV4e-0001iO-8m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:27:48 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::632]:53406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHV4b-0001iA-6m for 67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:27:46 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a2699ee30d1so284235166b.2 for <67870-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:27:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703449653; x=1704054453; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date :mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=TkPe2/FVtTXos3Fn4LcMlXlvvoB3zem1Bav3x8DIIys=; b=l+TXB2dgxgPggqthvj7hJ9svAx6UXV/mEbvVAMY5f6sOLmhcKgvx+qEoVsXVSTfcVd c9RgP/gexDS7bm6Oqh4odXVn1BzAAHE/UBh3ffKCW1SkA6BKJLf3MiHECEnorRrMvkvX 0y86aulWoljBwEClODnz8FO4e0w6ti6043s2KzfVH3OBZshnfjjLlvaTwUSytFtAHbVo B2+esivOdVB5x43vIjo87WjBgMthtLDb5Yqz0VSux1yxR2jAVkrqwdIVpZWuT5V6O3Tv BtncW69j9zzwBc9zoBncPaVprNVNr97FrdbZmydi0g9ov/GuHwhoKFqrtrGzWDlz4znw 0zKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703449653; x=1704054453; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date :mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=TkPe2/FVtTXos3Fn4LcMlXlvvoB3zem1Bav3x8DIIys=; b=OglfjAK+6xBxcb6S9zo2A6NeLwLajveXeSEo4L2IMc4cv78txyAyXzoabLUEjpkKj3 9gdBvNg1nTodZuQnKYXKXk0T0I1mbRfkYf+gHQyR4YCqGe2fbmGgGVuWfBs1YMD7tKff lZM+Bn2ddiZqAQM9atvCCRBT0VRMmb5MdIg3xJZpTPQSzTkBmQqvrR7dQOOlGW0tcAyR ydh3nrv0JIEPL5qIl21xF1LSC0JmHs1ZRj36N7vvH+KxOw998SVf620b565JqapETNHt gg+7zksTNsCCLagTYWzw5R6G/eWbIVeW6dqlbz/HBXOjF7hhBkPuRrJ65NkFzNbV7q7+ r3Vw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyLh7aOzRx7dz4W1Ubg7gUn/n9Qfd1eWg8C/zBxXSoOsdHyzPhq wdecvLlem1GPuUXS20CPiRY/sPmZ7/TMBRlhRyw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHxAX7OtEwuwoLy/+KlqeyYPBaqZv2dZU2PZeRzHjuBgs+FhAak9HfllTKRTcWGMVWgsRPdtu6mnAEEX1YiXNU= X-Received: by 2002:a50:f605:0:b0:553:a9bd:19e8 with SMTP id c5-20020a50f605000000b00553a9bd19e8mr3953031edn.5.1703449652930; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:27:32 -0800 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <25F870BA-C37C-4C47-AD5B-D56273CDB0CD@boostpro.com> References: <25F870BA-C37C-4C47-AD5B-D56273CDB0CD@boostpro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 12:27:32 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > I did suggest including certain words that would have helped me. Do > you want a suggested rewrite of the text instead? What qualifies as a > suggestion in your book? I'm not Jo=C3=A3o, but I see that he edited the text recently so that it no= w reads, on current master: =E2=80=A2 On-the-fly diagnostic annotations, via the Flymake package (*n= ote (flymake)Top::). Eglot's Flymake backend replaces other Flymake backends while it is managing a buffer, and enhances diagnostics with interactive server-suggested fixes (so-called =E2=80=9Ccode actio= ns=E2=80=9D, *note Eglot Commands::) Does that seem okay to you or is there more we could do here? Thanks.