From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6775: please say U+ in what-cursor-position Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 6775 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 6775@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.128071538930601 (code B ref -1); Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:17:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2010 02:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfkZo-0007xW-S9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:29 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfkZn-0007xR-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:27 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:54288) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofka9-0007C1-Ap for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:49 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33963 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ofka7-0002cT-UG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofka6-0002wq-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:47 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcaib.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.81]:60964 helo=homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofka6-0002wg-M2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:16:46 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05186578071 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:16:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=jidanni.org; b=PzFCG0f4q6WSH tnyLqvhBbLTxhqrl6VlK8KZri97KRgofj5Tm6VledsdRXhAMsj3nVthiRSbawxr6 Ko5cUnZSGF0fPDdYkrNqmocFEVdpjl1Z4Hooq8iZyR1V+9/iDElGgi3MmLkek2O/ xGJYtwKk7rc8XFYr1uM+cKaXz1HjYk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=wSbCAbs1Hw5D2H8KlAN KX6FJmc8=; b=AzdX9Bk0JzBreopKUNM1snLIRfgU0ReyPIo3l7hbZ1NDQ/k/ULx 8tQWdm8+nmxR9UxOK82SKlqOBzV+QsqDuBMl9ihRRMa4QAEfC5osUPv1LkNWCBVL B1+bJCuOZaGWgkQQrhQbKFuDjEThaAIZV9avDVeq4ewHZnJUv5B7/Mto= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-0-165.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.0.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DE9057806C for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:16:41 +0800 Message-ID: <87pqy1wygm.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) In Linux, we get a Nice simple answer for the question: $ unicode =E2=86=92|sed q U+2192 RIGHTWARDS ARROW But in emacs, what-cursor-position gives character: =E2=86=92 (8594, #o20622, #x2192) preferred charset: chinese-big5-1 (Frequently used part (A141-C67E) of = Big5 (Chinese traditional)) code point: 0x2258 syntax: . which means: punctuation category: .:Base, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese buffer code: #xE2 #x86 #x92 file code: #xE2 #x86 #x92 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) x:-eten-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-160-big5.eten-0 (#xA1= F7) Character code properties: customize what to show name: RIGHTWARDS ARROW old-name: RIGHT ARROW general-category: Sm (Symbol, Math) Why can't you just use (format "(%d, #o%o, U+%x, raw-byte)" char char char)) or something? Why can't you please say "U+..."? emacs-snapshot: Installed: 1:20100801-1 From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6775: please say U+ in what-cursor-position Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6775 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 6775@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6775-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6775.128076283123059 (code B ref 6775); Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 6775) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2010 15:27:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofwv1-0005zs-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:27:11 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f172.google.com ([74.125.83.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofwuz-0005zm-UF for 6775@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:27:10 -0400 Received: by pvd12 with SMTP id 12so1320937pvd.3 for <6775@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:27:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=X0jyJ6xUsuImw12blZG4TahWi1i4ybgkAPsXC/qQV6o=; b=L2im7ApPQYLyXzKDyN+cn9DiuVW5Wdv5wbu7pkM9gSaS8CAlUGfmNeTvOhDccC14V2 T98EPFjk78vcwq51uc38e1MEg8GYGA/kMANng+BQ3y/XCB2MZIlr+KdDAUEYM8gfc/T1 S6lU3SzfY1x/y1rz0diKklRp2jl0Oj6nrPeCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ppfj8eYCtRfqasmEQSneXq597DYXrdt8pEAM6dej8XpeW95NWgbQsJBV/OHOZlOg6y O7S5416XAGRNQIHYzm2/Uevuqks/BipSbRM6NKvcfOuqvaSypI4/n0i33psht4gtuw4/ Uf+AybokVmhfBJV9Dk9H5NrN/qWlpzgfj7xU0= Received: by 10.114.92.1 with SMTP id p1mr3661512wab.197.1280762852535; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.jasonrumney.net ([202.87.221.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k23sm11638361waf.5.2010.08.02.08.27.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by home.jasonrumney.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 253C7BB2; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:27:27 +0800 (MYT) From: Jason Rumney References: <87pqy1wygm.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:27:26 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87pqy1wygm.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:16:41 +0800") Message-ID: <87zkx5uja9.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > Why can't you just use > (format "(%d, #o%o, U+%x, raw-byte)" char char char)) > or something? > > Why can't you please say "U+..."? It would be misleading for non-Unicode characters. From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6775: please say U+ in what-cursor-position In-Reply-To: <87pqy1wygm.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6775 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: jasonr@gnu.org Cc: 6775@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6775-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6775.128076442323717 (code B ref 6775); Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 6775) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2010 15:53:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfxKh-0006AU-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:53:43 -0400 Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5] helo=homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfxKe-0006AP-Eg for 6775@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:53:41 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699783BC069; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=AdQN2TOw4l4h8+k9uPBAqzS2aZndtEfzzi5apLYAVC3ZsMvS9 nit2TdHphPBPs0bNcmgFouVY1YvLrdrBJn/cM4rdscTXpEwmzm12qgn28QluAscF 9QzPUOv/+jaN+OjTTVJh2VzdpvXUVGNlVgGqHAri+Rf952xZslRMaU1E1Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=o0Ip8lH03uQLw0fh357y9D9XubA=; b=K7P+TE0sNsESF fA8G1bWlJ+MCR2k1K7Msjd6imr+U7wNWbP4Y9GrcUnMX4yCuFgnCHOHxK2t63oDz XMQJCtOmyBL7gVHLNMurA8pI9q5EtVnS93bLoR0XA+Ya8b+55FLLGG5jkg8KnWv7 0rtofjalwLupuFM28G+5UEJmebZqLA= Received: from jidanni.org (125-230-46-142.dynamic.hinet.net [125.230.46.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16D9A3BC065; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org References: <87zkx5uja9.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:53:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87mxt5c8o8.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) JR> It would be misleading for non-Unicode characters. Well can't emacs know if it is dealing with Unicode or not, and then if it is, give a U+ somewhere in the output? Don't Unicode characters come with a "characteristic" signature? Wait, if emacs is so smart that it can put a U in the modeline, then it must know it is dealing with Unicode when it so happens to be dealing with it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 14 19:34:59 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2010 23:34:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkQFf-0003fx-Kz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:34:59 -0400 Received: from pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkQFd-0003fs-S1 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:34:58 -0400 Received: from furry (173-14-147-246-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.14.147.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o7ENZrR3030028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:35:53 -0400 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 342E916D402; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:35:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: severity 6775 wishlist Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:35:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87r5i0epie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) severity 6775 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 05 01:33:06 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2012 06:33:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg8XY-0003AX-Mn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:33:06 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:37188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg8XW-0003AM-JR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:33:03 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id uo1so3245811pbc.3 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:32:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=fDgscTM5xTSkLdM8L/+mfQTRPV4Jcj5dDv2k1XFwWCE=; b=BnOgOEZJ+6YuoGYsCD18gRcRAnacN0h+0bOUDvKItDpcp0IVJvWHxys8vNgUPmKTPJ RpnjyALoIsba1DEN+CSApj9rwqDboih353TPi7/2xkQJHtbnD+ugZisOZH9JU3Bbdirq 8UmOFQYXFlasz+x56thNW7BdpIJiMpgciOtQVbmGIS84/Mbe7KvXOlNREH9kT5Iulrmg ME4jpkMhpYWOkaRF3bQhDfvjU8+Oi8EehAs/nyFnau5VRQjgOD1BoPXmNuNpAs+o/KNJ 3cAqfrndH/t1VNe7lW8VTAS9fcV1nDEzMkYY0OG6Y40DQvHEfjakLQ3ewd+JE6qy4Mbu 3R0Q== Received: by 10.68.248.70 with SMTP id yk6mr45560708pbc.160.1354689176293; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.18.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a4sm2164993paw.21.2012.12.04.22.32.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: tags 6775 + wontfix Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:32:50 +0800 Message-ID: <87txs1ypnx.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) tags 6775 + wontfix close 6775 thanks